HHS survey shows that half of ObamaCare target market doesn’t want it

posted at 1:21 pm on April 4, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

It’s a nice catch by Investors Business Daily’s John Merline, but not exactly a shock to anyone who understood the real dynamics of the uninsured before ObamaCare.  Advocates for a government-imposed overhaul of the health-care industry regularly decried the 47 million uninsured at that time (now 48 million) as if it was a monolithic bloc of people clamoring for insurance but who had no way to access it. Now, their own surveys show that half of their target market has no interest in health insurance anyway:

Let’s leave aside for a minute the oddity of this effort. Its backers have endlessly touted ObamaCare as a miracle of modern government that will at long last bring insurance within reach of 48 million people who desperately want it. Besides, the law mandates that everyone buy ObamaCare coverage.

So why the need for a big marketing push at all?

Once you look at the marketing slides the HHS has produced, you find the answer.

It turns out that the Democrats and the Obama administration apparently didn’t bother to investigate who these uninsured people actually are before they forced through a $1.8 trillion plan to help them.

What they’ve learned since is that more than half of the 48 million who the government says are uninsured aren’t interested in health insurance, which is why they don’t bother to buy it in the first place.

The administration now admits that vast numbers of the uninsured will be unlikely to respond to ObamaCare’s marketing pitches.

Read it all, but after you do, be sure and read this post from almost four years ago, too.  You can also read Cato Institute’s analysis from the same period, or even our own Jazz Shaw at his former stomping grounds discussing the same data long before Democrats managed to shove ObamaCare through a gimmicky reconciliation package seven months later.

Heck, even the Census Bureau ran up a red flag at the time, on page 67:

National surveys and health insurance coverage

Health insurance coverage is likely to be underreported on the Current Population Survey (CPS). While underreporting affects most, if not all, surveys, underreporting of health insurance coverage in the Annual Social and Economic Supplement (ASEC) appears to be a larger problem than in other national surveys that ask about insurance. Some reasons for the disparity may include the fact that income, not health insurance, is the main focus of the ASEC questionnaire. In addition, the ASEC collects health insurance information by asking in February through April about the previous year’s coverage… Compared with other national surveys, the CPS estimate of the number of people without health insurance more closely approximates the number of people who are uninsured at a specific point in time during the year than the number of people uninsured for the entire year.

The actual number of Americans uninsured for significant periods by reasons other than choice was less than a third of the claimed number — just 14 million.  The rest didn’t buy insurance because they just didn’t need it.  Most of those who wanted insurance but couldn’t access it had poverty as the cause rather than any other issue, although pre-existing conditions played a part in this as well.  The proper response to a problem of this scope — about 4.2% of the population — should have been to find ways to lower costs through competition, improved pricing signals by discouraging the third-party-payer model for routine health care, and expansion of existing safety-net programs to support the truly needy.

Had we done that, HHS wouldn’t have to create sales pitches for systemic overhauls that force Americans into plans they never wanted in the first place, whose structures actually increase costs and exacerbate the very problems that drive those increases.  Those of us who actually researched the nature and the diverse backgrounds of the uninsured knew exactly that this would be the outcome of the top-down, one-size-fits-all approach that two-thirds of the target market had already rejected.

Unfortunately, that class of researchers didn’t include the majority in Congress, but then again, they had other motivations for their insistence on dictating outcomes for the health-care industry.

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These are Adolf’s, er Obama’s new troups.

Schadenfreude on April 4, 2013 at 1:23 PM

The Obama’care’ “navigators”, only those who marched for Obama will be hired…will have your medical recoreds, gun records and voting records.

Good luck America!

Schadenfreude on April 4, 2013 at 1:24 PM

HHS survey shows that half of ObamaCare target market doesn’t want it

Shut up, that’s why the Marxist Political Class explained when asked about that discrepancy…

SWalker on April 4, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Only union scum, ‘Spanish speakers’, and other assorted Obamapeople will get the ‘navigator’ jobs, for which YOU will pay.

Goebbels orgasms on-going now.

Schadenfreude on April 4, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Criminal and thugs run the land.

Work harder so they all get paid, by your sweat.

Schadenfreude on April 4, 2013 at 1:25 PM

100 million law-abiding gun owners will pay fees so that criminals get hired and/or paid off by your labor.

It’s a surreal world.

Give Obama Pelosi and help to keep the senate D.

Schadenfreude on April 4, 2013 at 1:26 PM

“If you like your plan, you can keep your plan” becomes if you don’t have a plan and don’t want a plan you will TAKE our plan and you will LIKE it!

Lily on April 4, 2013 at 1:26 PM

I am one of those who did not want insurance.

astonerii on April 4, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Only half?

dentarthurdent on April 4, 2013 at 1:27 PM

UNEXPECTEDLY!!!

Marcola on April 4, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Drudge now:

IT’S STARTING: CANCER CLINICS TURN AWAY MEDICARE USERS

Projected Shortage of 45,000 Doctors by 2020…

WALGREEN clinics to begin treating chronic illnesses…

Easier to Apply for Green Card than Obamacare…

VA blocks exchange abortion coverage…

FLASHBACK: States Limiting Drug Prescriptions for Medicaid Patients…

Schadenfreude on April 4, 2013 at 1:29 PM

The government is a lie.

I wouldn’t trust it to sweep the gutters.

The lie is a weapon, and it is used without reservation.

America is lost.

I hold out no hope for it.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 4, 2013 at 1:31 PM

50% of the uninsured, and 100% of those currently insured, do not want obamacare – but, what difference does it make?

Pork-Chop on April 4, 2013 at 1:31 PM

citizens of America….

RELEASE THE HOUNDS!!!

GhoulAid on April 4, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Then how come he won again? I think the electorate wants all this horribleness more than they let on in these cute surveys. Only survey that matters is the voting booth.

happytobehere on April 4, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Schadenfreude on April 4, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Utterly heartbreaking.

And the cattle refused to see it coming, and refuse to believe it, even now, while they’re being transported to the slaughterhouse.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 4, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Schadenfreude on April 4, 2013 at 1:23 PM

How in the world will these be able to explain bhocare? It changes daily with the endless new mandates! This is just a way to get people employed at taxpayers expense!
L

letget on April 4, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Its backers have endlessly touted ObamaCare as a miracle of modern government that will at long last bring insurance within reach of 48 million people who desperately want it.

Once again proving the iron maxim of the welfare state:

The more reliant you are on government, the more experience you have of it, the less you love it. And by extension, the further removed you are from the welfare state, the less experience you have of it, the more you can fantasise about its virtues and grow to love it.

…or, at least, your imaginary version of it because everything is perfect in My Progressive Little Ponyland and you’d just have to be an inbred libertarian or conservative to be against the welfare state, which is in your own self-interest. Don’t you realise that an ObamaPhone and food stamps are better than an entry-level job with excellent advancement opportunities? What’s not to love about ‘free’ government healthcare?

Resist We Much on April 4, 2013 at 1:34 PM

And the cattle refused to see it coming, and refuse to believe it, even now, while they’re being transported to the slaughterhouse.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 4, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Mock them. They deserve it, in full.

Schadenfreude on April 4, 2013 at 1:34 PM

The government is a lie.
OhEssYouCowboys on April 4, 2013 at 1:31 PM

In the ghetto parlance of the typical Obamatron “he a lie”.

Heard that one from a neice who lives in Baltimore.

dentarthurdent on April 4, 2013 at 1:35 PM

HHS survey shows that half of ObamaCare target market doesn’t want it

Yeah, but they’ll win them over with a set of Ginsu knives..

ToddPA on April 4, 2013 at 1:35 PM

And the cattle refused to see it coming, and refuse to believe it, even now, while they’re being transported to the slaughterhouse.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 4, 2013 at 1:32 PM

And they also still think AARP is on their side…..

dentarthurdent on April 4, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Its just a a case of mind over matter.

The gov’t doesn’t mind what it does to you because you don’t matter.

What one wants is irrelevant to Barry, his admin, and its bureaucracies.

hawkeye54 on April 4, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Yeah, but they’ll win them over with a set of Ginsu knives..

ToddPA on April 4, 2013 at 1:35 PM

As long as they aren’t high capacity assault knives….
No more than 7 allowed in a set – at least in NY….

dentarthurdent on April 4, 2013 at 1:37 PM

This number will grow. Wait until they have to fill out the 63 page Obamacare Application. If information like what three Doctors on yesterday’s Mark Levin disclosed was more widely known, this number would be 90%.

Whiterock on April 4, 2013 at 1:38 PM

Mock them. They deserve it, in full.

Schadenfreude on April 4, 2013 at 1:34 PM

And we have to eat every morsel of it, because of them.

Or, maybe I’m referring to the wrong orifice.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 4, 2013 at 1:38 PM

The other 50% of targets think their Medical Coverage will be free.

Whiterock on April 4, 2013 at 1:40 PM

dentarthurdent on April 4, 2013 at 1:36 PM

They’ll be munching their cud, with those big, brown, trusting cow eyes, when their “doctors” explain to them that the IPAB has “recommended” that they not receive chemotherapy, because it’s just …

OhEssYouCowboys on April 4, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Mock them. They deserve it, in full.
Schadenfreude on April 4, 2013 at 1:34 PM

And will be about as effective as the Amish mocking our horseless carriages.

happytobehere on April 4, 2013 at 1:42 PM

Then how come he won again? I think the electorate wants all this horribleness more than they let on in these cute surveys. Only survey that matters is the voting booth.

happytobehere on April 4, 2013 at 1:32 PM

I don’t know about that, a survey of 9 seems to matter a whole lot more than the opinion of measly voters.

Axeman on April 4, 2013 at 1:49 PM

This number will grow. Wait until they have to fill out the 63 page Obamacare Application. If information like what three Doctors on yesterday’s Mark Levin disclosed was more widely known, this number would be 90%.

Wait till they find out upon submission of the completed application, every page will be scrutinized for even the most minute error as justification for rejection and re submission thus prolonging the application and approval time hoping that the applicant will have passed on by that time and no longer in need of costly care and treatment. An applicant deceased is money saved.

hawkeye54 on April 4, 2013 at 1:52 PM

I don’t know about that, a survey of 9 seems to matter a whole lot more than the opinion of measly voters.
Axeman on April 4, 2013 at 1:49 PM

Justice Roberts? Is that you?

happytobehere on April 4, 2013 at 1:55 PM

As if all those flyover hicks know what’s best for themselves and their children. Bunch of sister-marryin’, truck drivin’, mud stompin’ rubes can barely tie their own shoes yet would presume to tell enlightened coasties how things work? Please.

Bishop on April 4, 2013 at 1:55 PM

Nothing like living in a Democratic torture chamber.

DDay on April 4, 2013 at 1:56 PM

O/T

Obama: Newtown Shooter Gunned Down 20 Children With ‘Fully Automatic Weapon’

Who wants to ratify my proposed 28th Amendment?

No member of the Federal government may opine or draft legislation on a subject on which s/he cannot pass a basic competency test on the fundamentals of the issues involved provided by the Congressional Research Service, Government Accountability Office and independent organisations. To the extent that this amendment conflicts with the First Amendment, this article shall control.

Did you know that collapsible stocks make guns “fully-automatic”? According to DiFi, they do…

“These are weapons that are made to kill large numbers of people in close combat, and what we have found that now with the AR 15, they have a slide stock which you put in. It’s legal, and it makes the gun act fully automatic.”

- Senator Dianne Feinstein, Face the Nation, 27 January 2013

“I will tell you these are ammunition, they’re bullets, so the people who have those now, they’re going to shoot them. So if you ban them in the future, the number of these high-capacity magazines is going to decrease dramatically over time, because the bullets will have been shot and there won’t be any more available.”

- Representative Diana DeGette (D-CO), lead sponsor of legislation banning high-capacity magazines

The stupid is strong with this one.

“The congresswoman has been working on a high-capacity assault magazine ban for years and has been deeply involved in the issue; she simply misspoke in referring to ‘magazines’ when she should have referred to ‘clips,’ which cannot be reused because they don’t have a feeding mechanism.”

- Congresswoman DeGette’s spokeswoman, Juliet Johnson, who wanted to make sure that, if you missed the stupidity of her boss the first time, you wouldn’t a second and would get the added ‘feature’ of knowing that the stupidity is spread around the office for the purposes of fairness.

Er, yes, they can.

Resist We Much on April 4, 2013 at 1:58 PM

An applicant deceased is money saved.
hawkeye54 on April 4, 2013 at 1:52 PM

This is why I advocate two packs of cigarettes a day for everyone to solve the Social Security crisis.

happytobehere on April 4, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Huh??

Imagine that – people who will be able to qualify for ObamaCare don’t want it…

People that did want health insurance won’t be able to get it after ObamaCare kicks in…..

See how that works???

redguy on April 4, 2013 at 1:59 PM

You can’t trusted to choose the correct food for yourself.

You can’t be trusted to possess a firearm.

You can’t be trusted to choose the best school for your own children.

You can’t be trusted to bring a nail clippers on an airplane.

You can’t be trusted to decide your own healthcare needs.

I sense a pattern here but can’t quite see it. Damn, if only I could figure it out.

Bishop on April 4, 2013 at 2:00 PM

HHS survey shows that half of ObamaCare target market doesn’t want it

Yeah, but they’ll win them over with a set of Ginsu knives..

ToddPA on April 4, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Nah only a Glock will do…..

redguy on April 4, 2013 at 2:00 PM

This was always more about social control and government power than health care. The Dems in power were well aware of these facts and didn’t care because that’s not what socialized medicine was about – never has been.

tommyboy on April 4, 2013 at 2:04 PM

This is why I advocate two packs of cigarettes a day for everyone to solve the Social Security crisis.

For those in lands where pot is now legal to consume, what does two packs of cigarettes convert to in pot usage?

hawkeye54 on April 4, 2013 at 2:16 PM

The sad part #1 is, these are the people that voted for Obama.

The sad part #2 is, these people get their news from late night comedy shows and have know idea what is about to hit them.

WestTexasBirdDog on April 4, 2013 at 2:21 PM

We are way beyond wants now. The government is going to give you what they think you need.

Suffer horribly democrat voters.

tom daschle concerned on April 4, 2013 at 2:22 PM

The administration now admits that vast numbers of the uninsured will be unlikely to respond to ObamaCare’s marketing pitches.

Just another of Barry’s “bumps in the road”.

And those folks will damned well purchase insurance AND LIKE IT!

The Washington elite know what’s best for us. Just ask them!

GarandFan on April 4, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Wait till they find out upon submission of the completed application, every page will be scrutinized for even the most minute error as justification for rejection and re submission thus prolonging the application and approval time hoping that the applicant will have passed on by that time and no longer in need of costly care and treatment. An applicant deceased is money saved.

hawkeye54 on April 4, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Bonus, -’revenue’ from Estate Taxes! ++++++++++++++++++++

slickwillie2001 on April 4, 2013 at 3:07 PM

HHS survey shows that half of ObamaCare target market doesn’t want it

Yeah, but they’ll win them over with a set of Ginsu knives..

ToddPA on April 4, 2013 at 1:35 PM

And, if you call in the next ten minutes……

herm2416 on April 4, 2013 at 3:07 PM

“These are weapons that are made to kill large numbers of people in close combat, and what we have found that now with the AR 15, they have a slide stock which you put in. It’s legal, and it makes the gun act fully automatic.”

– Senator Dianne Feinstein, Face the Nation, 27 January 2013

Resist We Much on April 4, 2013 at 1:58 PM

As much as I would hate to agree with DiFi on anything, she is correct about slide fire stocks that are commercially available and completely legal. She is not referring to adjustable stocks, but slide fire stocks, which do mimic fully automatic fire.

A company called Slide Fire Solutions introduced a replacement rifle stock called the SSAR-15 that, for $369, allows you to bump fire your AR-15-style rifle from your shoulder while still retaining accuracy and control. The stock, in the simplest terms, is the part of the rifle you hold and brace against your shoulder. According to the Slide Fire website, “unlike traditional bump firing, the Slidestock allows the shooter to properly hold the firearm and maintain complete control at all times. As a result of the forward movement required to discharge each round, the shooter naturally corrects their point-of-aim for each shot and prevents recoil from pushing the firearm’s muzzle upward in an unsafe direction.” The SSAR-15 lets a shooter “unleash 100 rounds, in 7 seconds.” A product review at a site called Guns America notes that the SSAR-15 “installs in one minute with no special skills.”

I want one!

MarkM on April 4, 2013 at 3:20 PM

Why do we continue to argue the facts and outcomes with people who simply don’t care? They want one thing… a single payer nationalized healthcare system. They don’t care about the cost, and they don’t care about the facts.

Stop playing nice with these people, and stop thinking we can have a meaningful conversation or exchange of ideas. THEY DON’T CARE.

Neo-con Artist on April 4, 2013 at 3:50 PM

MarkM on April 4, 2013 at 3:20 PM

But, they do not make guns fully automatic. Read the BATFE letter wherein the stock is approved and is, SPECIFICALLY, stated not to have automatic parts or to convert a weapon into an automatic and then look at the National Firearms Act of 1934, National Firearms Act of 1968, and 27 CFR, Part 479. If the stock converted a gun into a fully-automatic weapon, it would would fall under the category of conversion parts and be subject to regulation.

The Slide Fire doesn’t make the gun “act” fully-automatic. It changes the way the shooter holds the gun for more accuracy. The gun’s firing mechanisms are the same. The gun isn’t “acting” differently. The shooter is…and such stocks can easily be made so a ban on sales is not going to have any impact.

Lastly, in 2011, there were 323 homicides from rifles…including “assault rifles.” These stocks aren’t the problem.

Resist We Much on April 4, 2013 at 4:47 PM

But the really important thing is that Obama supported Gay Marriage, so its all good if the young and healthy folks have to pay more for the sick folks. Oh wait, you mean two gay guys who get married have to have an insurance policy with maternity benefits….What/??
Fools get what they deserve.

txmomof6 on April 4, 2013 at 5:43 PM

And WHAT exactly is this Blog doing to HELP this situation?

Answer: NOTHING - It is Demagoguing ONLY the Message that Obama wants the Media to POUND HOME EVERYDAY!!

Day After Day – WHAT is the QOTD? Well – it’s:

-Gay Rights
-Guns and Gun-Grabbing
-Illegal Immigration

Yet WHAT HAPPENED THE DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY? THE DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY – A country – North Korea – OPENLY THREATENDED the United States with Nuclear WAR!

WHAT did THIS PRESIDENT DO?

-Did he meet with his Security Council? NO
-Did he get an Intelligence Briefing? NO
-Did he take ANY ACTIONS that one would EXPECT after such a threat? NO

He did this:

– He went to a FUNDRAISER for the DNC
– He went to ANOTHER Fundraiser for the DNC
– He went to a THIRD Fundraiser for the DNC

DID ANYONE Report on THIS? No
DID ANYONE Reprot on how WRONG this was? NO
DID This BLOG report on ANY of This? NOT A WORD

INSTEAD what did THIS BLOG DO?

Guns, Gays, Immigration

NOT HELPING!

williamg on April 4, 2013 at 5:53 PM

What would have happened if mmmBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH had reacted That WAY?

Public Execution by The Media – INCLUDING this Blog!

williamg on April 4, 2013 at 5:55 PM

Who cares? Politics and government are like business and capitalism in exactly one way: there’s only one kind of opinion that actually counts.

In the real world, it’s your dollar. To politicians – especially transformative messiahs – it’s your vote.

Obamacare wasn’t brought up very much in the campaign because the candidate was Obamacare inventor Mitt Romney, but that doesn’t matter. The law had been in effect for two and a half years and the country reelected him, led by the young. That give Obama all the political capital he needs to continue the operation.

Maybe if the President was a Clintonian type concerned about his legacy, what anyone including the citizens targeted for “help” thought would be important, but he’s not and it’s not. Liberals are laughing at this, as well they should. They won.

HitNRun on April 4, 2013 at 6:31 PM