Graham: The Senate background-check bill is “going nowhere”

posted at 1:21 pm on April 1, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

Sen. Chuck Schumer said on Sunday that he’s working on finding some version of a universal background check bill that could be acceptable to the requisite sixty senators, but that could be quite a job considering the backlash his wildly restrictive first go-round inspired. On his own Sunday appearance, Sen. Graham insisted that there’s nothing in the current gun-control bill that would have prevented the mass shooting at Newtown, and that it seems a little nonsensical to move forward on expanding background checks to further burden law-abiding private individuals when the current system is only tepidly enforced at best. Via The Hill:

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Sunday blasted Democratic efforts to pass new gun control laws, vowing that a bill Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) plans to bring to the floor next month was “going nowhere.” …

“The current system is broken,” Graham said on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “Why in the world would you expand that system if you’re not enforcing the law that exists today to include private transfers [for background checks]? So I think that legislation is going nowhere, but I’d like to have a robust debate about improving the system.”

And there undoubtedly will be, since Reid is definitely looking to move forward on the gun-control issue in the coming weeks, sans the assault-weapons ban, and there are several Republicans who’d be open to “some type” of background check related legislation. Of course, I’m sure we can all look forward to Reid going about this one of the only ways they know how: By taking a leaf out of the president’s playbook and demagoguing the heck out of it.


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Going nowhere? Translation: they’re working in private and plan to pass something in both houses in the middle of the night.

Fenris on April 1, 2013 at 1:22 PM

If you’re not for this common sensible and reasonable measure, you’re no better than those who murder children.

- The Left/MSM.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 1, 2013 at 1:23 PM

His normal picture works out OK for an April Fool picture.

Oil Can on April 1, 2013 at 1:26 PM

If you’re not for this common sensible and reasonable measure, you’re no better than those who murder children.

- The Left/MSM.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 1, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Oh. I thought it was guns they were talking about.

So all this is about background checks before abortions and infanticides? Ok, now all the talk about killing kids makes sense.

IlikedAUH2O on April 1, 2013 at 1:26 PM

I can’t wait for the Jim Carrey video. What I really like about his intellectual endeavors is – when he’s making a face – I know that I’m supposed laugh.

That makes it so much easier for me.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 1, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Lindsay too bad you don’t feel the same about amnesty not ‘going nowhere? You and your bunch sure he!! bent on that aren’t you?
L

letget on April 1, 2013 at 1:30 PM

But their main goal of making all firearms into door stops and paper weights is still alive a well.

Ban the types, mags, who can carry/when and where, tax gun owners and last but least…..OBAMACARE will finish it off. If you’re a gun owner, your coverage is null and void AND by admitting to owning one on your application form….poof..your registered with the Feds.

They will get them one way or another.

katy on April 1, 2013 at 1:30 PM

But this is going the USSR way.

Schadenfreude on April 1, 2013 at 1:30 PM

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

Schadenfreude on April 1, 2013 at 1:31 PM

If you’re not for this common sensible and reasonable measure, you’re no better than those who murder children.

- The Left/MSM.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 1, 2013 at 1:23 PM

So, what they’re actually saying is: If you don’t do what we say, you’re one of us?

applebutter on April 1, 2013 at 1:31 PM

IlikedAUH2O on April 1, 2013 at 1:26 PM

When will you knuckle-draggers understand that exterminating a child in the womb is the pinnacle of feminist liberation, but owning a gun is just an anachronistic vestige of a foolish generation of slave-owning, white men?

Will you ever get it?

OhEssYouCowboys on April 1, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Make sure this twit gets primaried. The good people of SC deserve better. See Amnesty.

Schadenfreude on April 1, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Mike Lupica thinks Sen. Graham is no good on this issue. He likes Bloomberg’s position.

And you guys bash Graham?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/lupica-sen-graham-slow-person-guns-article-1.1304257

IlikedAUH2O on April 1, 2013 at 1:32 PM

You all are probably familiar with Cody Wilson, the guy who made a big impact against the new gun control push with his 3D printed AR-15 magazine. The Department of Justice and Homeland Security has seized his website: http://defcad.org/ and are pressing charges.

His web site is protected by the 1st amendment!

FloatingRock on April 1, 2013 at 2:43 AM

Schadenfreude on April 1, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Does Ms. Lindsey get almost as much TV time as Obama?

It must make the latter envious.

Schadenfreude on April 1, 2013 at 1:34 PM

But their main goal of making all firearms into door stops and paper weights is still alive a well.

Ban the types, mags, who can carry/when and where, tax gun owners and last but least…..OBAMACARE will finish it off. If you’re a gun owner, your coverage is null and void AND by admitting to owning one on your application form….poof..your registered with the Feds.

They will get them one way or another.

katy on April 1, 2013 at 1:30 PM

And when you refuse to answer the mandatory “healthcare” question, concerning the possession of a firearm in your home, that failure will constitute an admission of same, and they will follow-up with interrogating your children – while at school.

Good stuff, katy.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 1, 2013 at 1:35 PM

46 Senators who voted to give up your 2nd Amendment right to the UN Arms Treaty.

Baldwin (D WI)
Baucus (D MT)
Bennet (D CO)
Blumenthal (D CT)
Boxer (D CA)
Brown (D OH)
Cantwell (D WA)
Cardin (D MD)
Carper (D DE)
Casey (D PA)
Coons (D DE)
Cowan (D MA)
Durbin (D IL)
Feinstein (D CA)
Franken (D MN)
Gillibrand (D NY)
Harkin (D IA)
Hirono (D HI)
Johnson (D SD)
Kaine (D VA)
King (I ME)
Klobuchar (D MN)
Landrieu (D LA) Leahy (D VT)
Levin (D MI)
McCaskill (D MO)
Menendez (D NJ)
Merkley (D OR)
Mikulski (D MD)
Murphy (D CT)
Murray (D WA)
Nelson (D FL)
Reed (D RI)
Reid (D NV)
Rockefeller (D WA)
Sanders (I VT)
Schatz (D HI)
Shaheen (D NH)
Stabenow (D MI)
Udall (D CO)
Udall (D NM)
Warner (D VA)
Warren (D MA)
Whitehouse (D RI)
Wyden (D OR)

katy on April 1, 2013 at 1:35 PM

His web site is protected by the 1st amendment!

FloatingRock on April 1, 2013 at 2:43 AM

Schadenfreude on April 1, 2013 at 1:33 PM

The second what? We don’t need not steenkin’ Constitution.

The Rogue Tomato on April 1, 2013 at 1:36 PM

…does anybody really care what this “girl” has to say anymore?

KOOLAID2 on April 1, 2013 at 1:39 PM

Gang members and other criminals are not going to ask for background checks when they sell guns to other gang members and other criminals. This does nothing but create a record of lawful, private gun sales.

rbj on April 1, 2013 at 1:39 PM

OT: The juxtaposition of the photos on the front page today is fascinating.

Curtiss on April 1, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Obummer/Reid: We’re on a Road to Nowhere

Someone should edit Reid’s face on Byrne’s body…

Marcola on April 1, 2013 at 1:49 PM

They will get them one way or another.

katy on April 1, 2013 at 1:30 PM

They can have mine as long as they volunteer to accept the bullets first.

Bishop on April 1, 2013 at 1:50 PM

Someone has to rise and openly ask Senate Democrats and Obama a question: “When we the people have no guns, what would prevent the government from going Cyprus on us by giving our bank accounts a 60% haircut?” There will be some mighty uncomfortable squirming, then a wave of denials so frantic that Nixon’s spokesperson would envy it.

Archivarix on April 1, 2013 at 1:51 PM

Of course, I’m sure we can all look forward to Reid going about this one of the only ways they know how: By taking a leaf out of the president’s playbook and demagoguing the heck out of it.

Reid is not the one advocating easy access to guns for criminals and the mentally insane. All he is trying to do is pass reasonable gun laws that will make it harder for criminals to obtain weapons. Too bad this current crop of GOP extremists are against that. They are against anything that benefits the working American.

HotAirLib on April 1, 2013 at 1:54 PM

They can have mine as long as they volunteer to accept the bullets first.

Bishop on April 1, 2013 at 1:50 PM

I think you meant “ammunition” not “bullet”. You see, it’s a common terminology mistake to think… oh wait. Nevermind.

Fenris on April 1, 2013 at 1:56 PM

.

All he is trying to do is pass reasonable gun laws that will make it harder for criminals to obtain weapons.

HotAirLib on April 1, 2013 at 1:54 PM

You mean like the current 30,000 laws which mostly say “Criminals cannot have a gun”?

O_o

Well I suppose 30,001 laws might just do the trick.

Bishop on April 1, 2013 at 1:57 PM

Cat poop alert.

A cat has pooped.

Avoid.

Cat poop sticks to the bottom of your shoe.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 1, 2013 at 1:58 PM

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

Schadenfreude on April 1, 2013 at 1:31 PM

THIS. ^^^

PatriotGal2257 on April 1, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Breaking news!

The Proppressives are going to dispense with all the distractions on the ‘high capacity’ con, the ‘assault weapon’ scam and the Universal gun background confiscation rip-off.

Instead they are aiming to go after criminals committing crimes and prosecute their violations of the law to the fullest extend possible.

Said Biden:

“We are sick and tired of the law-abiding being blamed for the actions of criminals and lunatics, and beginning today we can going to pivot to going after the perpetrators of these crimes and leave the innocent alone”

Galt2009 on April 1, 2013 at 2:06 PM

You all are probably familiar with Cody Wilson, the guy who made a big impact against the new gun control push with his 3D printed AR-15 magazine. The Department of Justice and Homeland Security has seized his website: http://defcad.org/ and are pressing charges.

His web site is protected by the 1st amendment!

FloatingRock on April 1, 2013 at 2:43 AM

Not if Obama says it isn’t! Welcome to Tyranny 2.0 – New and Improved, with lemon-freshened Constitution-erasing power!

Midas on April 1, 2013 at 2:14 PM

All he is trying to do is pass reasonable gun laws that will make it harder for criminals to obtain weapons.

HotAirLib on April 1, 2013 at 1:54 PM

You mean like the current 30,000 laws which mostly say “Criminals cannot have a gun”?

O_o

Well I suppose 30,001 laws might just do the trick.

Bishop on April 1, 2013 at 1:57 PM

Well, like a typical leftist, results don’t actually matter to this troll, only good intentions. Sure the previous 30,000 didn’t work, but THIS TIME it will! Just like their economic policies.

There’s nothing “reasonable” about turning millions of otherwise innocent people into criminals overnight over paperwork. It’d be like punishing my older children by banning Legos from the house because one of the younger ones left a Lego on the floor and I stepped on it.

CurtZHP on April 1, 2013 at 2:14 PM

It is funny the government wants a background check when I give one of my guns to my son but screams discrimination when a photo id is required to vote. Voting fraud has killed far more people than any gun crimes in this country.

trs on April 1, 2013 at 2:18 PM

You all are probably familiar with Cody Wilson, the guy who made a big impact against the new gun control push with his 3D printed AR-15 magazine. The Department of Justice and Homeland Security has seized his website: http://defcad.org/ and are pressing charges.
His web site is protected by the 1st amendment!

FloatingRock on April 1, 2013 at 2:43 AM

Schadenfreude on April 1, 2013 at 1:33 PM

I’m glad you re-posted FloatingRock’s alert from last nights QOTD, Schadenfreude. If this is true, this is a very important gun-related story, and a small taste of the sort of thing that we can all face if we surrender an inch to the gun-grabbers .

Here are the charges against him:

Conspiracy to violate the Arms Export Control Act
Conspiracy to violate the Undetectable Firearms Act
Conspiracy to commit Money Laundering
Criminal Copyright Infringement

I’m no lawyer, but it seems hard to believe that most of those could stick. The only one I’m not sure about is the money-laundering one. Money laundering? I have no idea what that might be based on. The others just sound like pure harassment made up by the Feds because they are annoyed by his 3-D printing, his defiant attitude and all the publicity he’s getting.

And they filed these charges just after ATF approved his FFL. Wtf?

WhatSlushfund on April 1, 2013 at 2:29 PM

And they filed these charges just after ATF approved his FFL. Wtf?

WhatSlushfund on April 1, 2013 at 2:29 PM

Because they knew that once he had an FFL, they’d have an easier time making any charges stick.

CurtZHP on April 1, 2013 at 2:31 PM

CurtZHP on April 1, 2013 at 2:31 PM

Hmm… bastards. And here I had been contemplating applying for an FFL.

WhatSlushfund on April 1, 2013 at 2:36 PM

Hmm… bastards. And here I had been contemplating applying for an FFL.

WhatSlushfund on April 1, 2013 at 2:36 PM

By all means get one. Just be prepared to live the life of a Quaker otherwise.

CurtZHP on April 1, 2013 at 2:39 PM

Hmm… bastards. And here I had been contemplating applying for an FFL.

WhatSlushfund on April 1, 2013 at 2:36 PM

Wait a day and see. It might be a bad April Fool’s joke.

Fenris on April 1, 2013 at 2:51 PM

http://www.defcad.com/ still works. April fools?

jawkneemusic on April 1, 2013 at 2:52 PM

All he is trying to do is pass reasonable gun laws that will make it harder for criminals to obtain weapons.
HotAirLib on April 1, 2013 at 1:54 PM

You’re either a liar or a fool or both. Read the damn bill. It makes it a crime for a spouse to leave a firearm in the home with his/her spouse for more than 7 days. How is that making it harder for criminals to get guns? All this does is turn normal behavior into a federal offense you fluking reprobate.

jawkneemusic on April 1, 2013 at 2:56 PM

Conspiracy to commit Money Laundering
Criminal Copyright Infringement

I’m no lawyer, but it seems hard to believe that most of those could stick. The only one I’m not sure about is the money-laundering one. Money laundering? I have no idea what that might be based on. The others just sound like pure harassment made up by the Feds because they are annoyed by his 3-D printing, his defiant attitude and all the publicity he’s getting.

And they filed these charges just after ATF approved his FFL. Wtf?

WhatSlushfund on April 1, 2013 at 2:29 PM


Ignorance of the law WILL get you indicted.

If you withdraw more than $ 10,000 from your bank, THEY are REQUIRED to notify the Feds …

… but they don’t notify YOU.

If a number of your known associates (i.e. friends, business partners, family) withdraw more than $ 10,000 in the same time frame?

BINGO!!! They have an indictment for conspiracy to launder money.

THe SCOAMF’s America – Jon Corzine can misappropriate $ 1.2 billion in client funds as documented in the MCH clearinghouse records and the U.S. Attorneys claim it is too hard to make a case. Be a vocal proponent of technology that makes the ATF redundant, and they will drive you out of busines and into jail.

PolAgnostic on April 1, 2013 at 3:02 PM

http://www.defcad.com/ still works. April fools?

jawkneemusic on April 1, 2013 at 2:52 PM

Yeah, it could be a joke. Although that would seem a bit out of character for him. Plus, I’m confused, I thought Wilson’s site was defcad.org

Funny that speculation about this has already made it onto Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Distributed

WhatSlushfund on April 1, 2013 at 3:05 PM

Cho, Loughner, Harris………….have the wiz kids of Washington even attempted to legislate new reporting requirements for those treating the mentally ill?

………………………..crickets………………………

Wouldn’t want to VIOLATE their rights, now would we?

GarandFan on April 1, 2013 at 3:07 PM

jawkneemusic on April 1, 2013 at 2:52 PM

.org was seized. .com is still there. hummm…

katy on April 1, 2013 at 3:08 PM

Wow, and how did I not hear about this:

http://israel.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1131&Itemid=73

Rep. Israel to Introduce Legislation to Prohibit 3-D Printed High-Capacity Magazines Along with Plastic Guns

Wednesday, January 16, 2013

As Debate Stirs Around High-Capacity Gun Clips, Homemade Gun Enthusiasts Show Clip Can be Made At Home with 3-D Printer

Washington, D.C.— Today, Congressman Steve Israel (D-Huntington) called for a renewal of a revamped Undetectable Firearms Act that includes the ban of 3-D printed, plastic high-capacity magazines. The existing ban on plastic guns expires this year and does not clearly cover magazines. This past weekend, Defense Distributed, a group of homemade gun enthusiasts used a 3-D printer to print and test an ammunition magazine for an AR semi-automatic rifle, loading and firing 86 rounds from the 30-round clip.

Rep. Israel said, “Background checks and gun regulations will do little good if criminals can print high-capacity magazines at home. 3-D printing is a new technology that shows great promise, but also requires new guidelines. Law enforcement officials should have the power to stop high-capacity magazines from proliferating with a Google search.”

3-D printers work by printing layer upon layer of a material, usually thermoplastic, on top of each other in order to form a 3-D object. The revamped Undetectable Firearms Act that Rep. Israel wrote makes it illegal to manufacture, own, transport, buy, or sell any firearm or high-capacity magazine that is not detectable by metal detector and/or does not present an accurate image when put through an x-ray machine. The reauthorization would extend the life of the bill for another 10 years from the date of enactment.

These fascists are insane. How would they enforce that? Government cameras in every room of everyone’s home? Even if this is an April Fool’s joke, Cody’s really got them in a panic, eh?

WhatSlushfund on April 1, 2013 at 3:13 PM

http://www.defcad.com/ still works. April fools?

jawkneemusic on April 1, 2013 at 2:52 PM

the difference is dot org vs dot com. Not sure what was at Dot Org,, could have been the non-profit side of the same crew and maybe that’s where the “money laundering” and other charges come.

AH_C on April 1, 2013 at 3:18 PM

It’s loads of fun when liberals make morons of themselves.

Mornin Mojo on April 1, 2013 at 3:52 PM

The AWB is a feint.

The magazine restrictions are a feint.

The big burrito here is the ‘expanded’ background checks.

The government wants the data.

catmman on April 1, 2013 at 3:57 PM

The AWB is a feint.

The magazine restrictions are a feint.

The big burrito here is the ‘expanded’ background checks.

The government wants the data.

catmman on April 1, 2013 at 3:57 PM

No the big burrito here is the mandatory universal registration which is the only way that “expanded” universal background checks can work.

This is dictatorship 101 stuff. Confiscate all the guns you can, know where the rest are located, and work like hell to limit the ability of the people to fight back when DHS starts expending all that ammo they’ve purchased.

Happy Nomad on April 1, 2013 at 4:30 PM

HotAirLib on April 1, 2013 at 1:54 PM

And you are against anything that benefits America and Americans in any way.
Here’s a tip: America is NOT going to become your socialist dream gulag.
Why do you hate America, hal?

Now, shut up and sing Daisy, b!tch.

Solaratov on April 1, 2013 at 5:30 PM

http://www.defcad.com/ still works. April fools?

jawkneemusic on April 1, 2013 at 2:52 PM

Type it in without the “www.” and you get a siezure announcement from DoJ and DHS.

Solaratov on April 1, 2013 at 5:38 PM

jawkneemusic

Sorry. That should be: http://defcad.org/

Solaratov on April 1, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Happy Nomad on April 1, 2013 at 4:30 PM

Yeah, that’s my point.

catmman on April 1, 2013 at 6:05 PM

LOL. Ok, I fell for it. Both sites are back up now.

Happy post-April Fool’s Day HAers!

WhatSlushfund on April 2, 2013 at 12:54 AM