Cuomo still stalling on clearing hydraulic fracturing for New York

posted at 8:41 pm on April 1, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

While other states have been moving right along with deploying the decades-old hydrofracking technique that’s unlocking access to their hitherto hard-to-reach oil and gas reserves (and enjoying the subsequent wealth- and job-creation that comes with it), the state of New York has been hanging back while Governor Andrew Cuomo decides whether he cares more about serving the best interests of his state or placating the vociferous green lobby. The governor has been dithering between continuing New York’s current ban on hydraulic fracturing or allowing fuel companies to go for it in at least the state’s southern portion, and has several times declined to give his approval despite his past testimony that he thinks fracking can be done safely. State-specific studies have already confirmed as much, but he just keeps stalling and turning this into an increasingly agonizing decision — and the waiting game is only making things worse.

Gov. Cuomo is paralyzed with indecision on “fracking’’ for natural gas because it’s a “lose-lose’’ situation where even Southern Tier residents who should benefit financially will be bitterly disappointed, a highly placed political source has told The Post.

Cuomo, who has dithered for more than two years on whether to OK the drilling process, which is used safely in nearly 30 other states, fears that his planned “toughest-in-the-nation” regulations and low natural-gas prices have combined to make it unlikely major gas companies would make the investments needed to develop new wells, the source said.

“His fear is that if he gives the go-ahead, nothing is going to happen, the gas companies won’t come in because of overregulation, and gas-price economics and the people [in the] Southern Tier will then say, ‘Look, Cuomo killed it another way.’ …

Unreasonably regulating the heck out of fracking and rendering yourself less competitive than your neighbors might discourage investment, say what?!

Meanwhile, across the state boarder in Pennsylvania, local economies are reaping the benefits of allowing more intensive oil and natural gas exploration and drilling — and with New York’s unemployment rate still hovering above eight percent, the state would be ill-advised to nix the opportunity on what are clearly just political grounds.


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Any man who would marry that “half home made” Food Network diva – needs psychiatric help.

jake-the-goose on April 1, 2013 at 8:47 PM

Everything Cuomo’s doing right now is centered around making himself more viable to Democratic primary voters in the 2016 election when he runs against Hillary. He just can’t figure out which direction is best to go (Andrew went right — well, right for a NYS Democrat — after winning in 2010 due to the GOP midterm blowout, then tacked left after the 2012 election. With fracking, he’s got no idea if the Democratic voters are going to be a bunch of eco-fanatics or angry at people who caused their winter 2015-16 gas and oil-heating bills to soar, so he dithers).

jon1979 on April 1, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Stuck on stupid. Oh, what a hellhole my home state has become. So glad I now hang my hat in VA.

crrr6 on April 1, 2013 at 8:51 PM

jon1979 on April 1, 2013 at 8:49 PM

You make good points. Cuomo’s problem is that Democrat primary voters know Hillary is just as batty as Obama, so what do they have to gain by picking him? She’s got name recognition, popularity within the party, and the opportunity to be The First Woman President. What does he have? An annoying NY accent (major turnoff about everywhere but the NY area), and he was quicker to join the gay bandwagon (rank and file won’t care – they just want to win).

He’s too stupid to realize it, but he’s probably better off trying to stake out some turf on the right. Obama’s second term is shaping up to be a clusterfark, so probably his only shot is to disassociate himself with Obama the way Hillary cannot. OTOH, perhaps he really does think putting that putting the country on an energy starvation diet will burnish his resume with a record of economic growth (?) Again, we’re trying to analyze the thought process of stupid people, so who really knows.

crrr6 on April 1, 2013 at 9:08 PM

Dudes making sure he’s to the left of Hillary on everything. It’s probably his only chance to win the nomination. At this point any white male in the democrat party is probably a long shot.

bannor on April 1, 2013 at 9:12 PM

Dudes making sure he’s to the left of Hillary on everything. It’s probably his only chance to win the nomination. At this point any white male in the democrat party is probably a long shot.

bannor on April 1, 2013 at 9:12 PM

He’s not a White Male, he’s a White Ape.

ardenenoch on April 1, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Think about it.
The goal of government at every level is to avoid the appearance of failure. Studying, stalling or just refusing to make a decision are the ways to do this.
Can’t blame them for doing something wrong when they do nothing at all.

There are exceptions. An example is NY’s new gun laws that will be modified out of existence or struck down by the courts. This is called the ‘Feel Good’ exemption. If it makes a few liberals feel good it must be done.

countrybumpkin on April 1, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Hmmmmmm,the Leftys are busy killing the jobs,
and yet,they want taxes increased!

Nuts!

canopfor on April 1, 2013 at 9:20 PM

I’m content to let him continue, just as I’m content to watch Obama stall on Keystone. Most of the damage done by their cowardace can’t be fixed by the next election cycle even if they suddenly decide to proceed. Let ‘em be exposed for what they are.

a capella on April 1, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Last year, I heard some scientist opine that New York actually had the largest shale gas potential of any region in the world. That would be wonderful if it’s true–both for reviving Upstate New York, and for making Gov. Cuomo either be a leader or a moron.

ParisParamus on April 1, 2013 at 9:23 PM

crrr6 on April 1, 2013 at 9:08 PM

Well, if Biden runs Andrew won’t be the dumbest white male in the race. But he’s already being outflanked on the eco-level by another presidential wamma-be in Martin O’Malley, who along with other Maryland Democrats have declared the state off-limits for fracking. Nobody cares, because in the frac zone sections of Maryland, the state’s barely five miles wide from Pennsylvania to West Virginia at a couple of spots, but to the environmental left, it’s the thought that counts.

The problem for all three is that the party overall has become convinced that if they run anybody but a white male, they can play the special interest/historical first/absolute moral authority card in perpetuity. So if Hillary runs against that group, she wins by default (in fact, odds are the missus could come out all for fracking and most of the environmental left would keep their traps shut, because they’re so sure she’s unbeatable in 2016).

jon1979 on April 1, 2013 at 9:23 PM

Not enough kickbacks?

profitsbeard on April 1, 2013 at 9:35 PM

Last year, I heard some scientist opine that New York actually had the largest shale gas potential of any region in the world. That would be wonderful if it’s true–both for reviving Upstate New York, and for making Gov. Cuomo either be a leader or a moron.

ParisParamus on April 1, 2013 at 9:23 PM

Here’s the Marcellus Shale map. The closest the formation gets to the anti-fracking celebrities in NYC is Port Jervis, on the outer-outer limits of the city’s community suburbs. But most of the activity would be further to the west, away from the Catskill Mountains zone, which also where the highest poverty levels and unemployment rates are located.

(I will concede one point to Cuomo — he may be right that the proposed NYS safety measures could raise the price of gas production in the Southern Tier so high it’s non-competitive at current natural gas prices. Out here in West Texas, they’ve all but stopped drilling for ‘dry’ gas in areas that were booming 5-6 years ago, because prices have dropped 60-80 percent from the 2006-08 period, and the frac depths here can be up to 20,000 feet. The Marcellus Shale is about half the depth of that, but still well below the aquifer levels. But if they make so drilling 10,000 feet in NYS is as costly as drilling 20,000 feet in Texas, unless there’s ‘wet’ gas there — gas with liquids that can be evaporated out and sold at higher prices, giving the wells added value — the drilling companies really might not come in.)

jon1979 on April 1, 2013 at 9:37 PM

The problem for all three is that the party overall has become convinced that if they run anybody but a white male, they can play the special interest/historical first/absolute moral authority card in perpetuity. So if Hillary runs against that group, she wins by default (in fact, odds are the missus could come out all for fracking and most of the environmental left would keep their traps shut, because they’re so sure she’s unbeatable in 2016).

jon1979 on April 1, 2013 at 9:23 PM

Exactly.

On the Hillary/fracking point, I am kind of jealous of rats’ self-discipline when it comes to keeping their eyes on the prize and ignoring the political posturing. I mean, Obama lied to their faces about his opposition to gay marriage in order to win in 2008, and they still embraced him because they knew it was just a cynical ploy.

Who on our side would give our guys that kind of political cover on vulnerable issues? Meanwhile, DADT is now repealed and his SCOTUS appointees may help make gay marriage the law of the land by June.

I have no doubts that Hillary would take photo ops on an oil rig if it helped her get elected only to turn around and do everything she can to stop domestic energy exploration once in office.

crrr6 on April 1, 2013 at 9:55 PM

Sadly, for those of us in New York, this is just more evidence that Cuomo is more interested in pleasing the kind of people who vote in Democratic Presidential primaries than doing anything to help the moribund economy in New York where my Summa Cum Laude Business Degreed son works as a cable TV technician and was lucky to get any job at all in the state. There are lots of young men in upstate New York just hanging out; not able to get work, can’t support a family, get in trouble because they have nothing to do and the young women can’t understand why there aren’t qualified husbands and fathers.

Jobs in and around the gas field business would be great for these blue collar kind of kids but Cuomo doesn’t care about them at all.

KW64 on April 1, 2013 at 9:56 PM

Does he naturally look bat-sh1t crazy, or does he have to work at it?

CurtZHP on April 1, 2013 at 9:59 PM

Hey Andrew New Yorkers just love those high NY gasoline and heating oil prices and it’s great for attracting new businesses too!
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http://www.api.org/oil-and-natural-gas-overview/industry-economics/~/media/Files/Statistics/Gasoline-Tax-Map.ashx
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Mario Andrew, azende me tuzeprovenos sfachim – and he is.

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diogenes on April 1, 2013 at 10:15 PM

…come on!…just LOOK at him!

KOOLAID2 on April 1, 2013 at 10:17 PM

Cuomo is an idiot. He couldn’t find his own ass with a map, compass AND GPS coordinates.

You elected him New York. ENJOY!

GarandFan on April 1, 2013 at 11:04 PM

I don’t think he has made the Food Network Diva an honest woman..yet..pretty sure,they live together.I still wonder about the Andersen Window commercial where she says she has those windows in her house..Hmnnnn..

Xango Annie on April 2, 2013 at 12:21 AM

Andy paces the darkened hallways of Eagle Street, muttering “Fracking, no fracking, fracking…what to do, what to do???” “The good people of New York Citystate need my help and protection!”

A bell rings and an armed guard enters. “Another urgent plea for help from the poor, ignorant populace.” Andy opens the envelope, looks inside and crams it into his jacket pocket. Andy looks wistfully at the ceiling, “Some of these questions may not be answered for a long, long time…”

Mr. Grump on April 2, 2013 at 7:36 AM

Does he naturally look bat-sh1t crazy, or does he have to work at it?

CurtZHP on April 1, 2013 at 9:59 PM

In parts of downstate New York, he is affectionately referred to as “Gargoyle head.”

Mr. Grump on April 2, 2013 at 7:40 AM

When the electorate does not reward you for being a steward of your entity’s assets and balance sheet, we should not be surprised that we get people in office who have no character, honor, or convictions.

This is how countries die – from within, based upon parasites looking to gourge themselves on the public purse now – and hope to gain enough from it to survive whatever comes later.

Zomcon JEM on April 2, 2013 at 8:48 AM

come on!…just LOOK at him!

KOOLAID2

Everytime I look at my governor I think of Chico Marx.

Wander on April 2, 2013 at 9:07 AM

Unreasonably regulating the heck out of fracking and rendering yourself less competitive than your neighbors might discourage investment, say what?!

And yet, NY state has paid for a commercial to run telling the world what a great place for businesses to come and set up shop. Saw it last night and wondered all through the spiel which state it was for, then at the end when it was revealed to be New York state, I just laughed out loud.

Kissmygrits on April 2, 2013 at 10:18 AM