King: North Korea is more like an “organized crime family running a territory” than a government

posted at 5:01 pm on March 31, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

But, really. As the WSJ put it yesterday, the problem with just acting crazy as your diplomatic strategy is that it doesn’t rule out the possibility that you are crazy. The whole place is pretty much at the mercy of one man’s kicking and screaming, and Kim Jong-Un has definitely been ratcheting up the volume of his tantrums recently. We’re all too familiar with the dynasty’s pattern of threat-escalation and aid-seeking, but as former chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee Rep. Peter King pointed out on ABC on Sunday, if Kim keeps this up, it is not going to end well for him.

It isn’t an empty threat. I wouldn’t be that concerned about them hitting the mainland U.S. right now… I think the real threat is to what north korea might be boxing itself into. Kim Jong-Un is trying to establish himself, trying to be the tough guy, he’s 28, 29 years old. And he keeps going further and further out, and I don’t know if he can get himself back in. My concern would be, that he may feel, to save face, he has to launch some sort of attack on South Korea or in the Pacific. … I don’t see any purpose in [direct talks with the United States]. As far as I see, this is not even a government, it’s more like an organized crime family running a territory. They are brutal, he is brutal, his father is brutal, his grandfather is brutal.


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Isn’t this how all government centric societies function?

lorien1973 on March 31, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Kim Jong-Un is the Barky of the East. I wonder if he eats dogs, too?

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 31, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Kinda like Chicago?

meci on March 31, 2013 at 5:07 PM

mmm..Mr. King, have you been paying attention to how things in Washington work, particularly in the last 4 years or so?

Mimzey on March 31, 2013 at 5:08 PM

In a country run by savages, they just put you on the Liverpool pathway.

tom daschle concerned on March 31, 2013 at 5:09 PM

sounds like a progressive dream.

rob verdi on March 31, 2013 at 5:10 PM

Kim Jong-Un is the Barky of the East. I wonder if he eats dogs, too?

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 31, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Of course he does. Eating dog meat is very common in both Koreas.

2010:

The North Korean authorities released the fixed prices for one hundred items on February 4th. The Daily NK, which reported on the issue at the time, has now received the full list of prices.

Dog meat had a fixed price of 500 won per kilogram.

Del Dolemonte on March 31, 2013 at 5:15 PM

mmm..Mr. King, have you been paying attention to how things in Washington work, particularly in the last 4 years or so?

Mimzey on March 31, 2013 at 5:08 PM

King: “Just give me my big storm Sandy money, get rid of your gun fetishes and shut up.”

arnold ziffel on March 31, 2013 at 5:16 PM

And that’s different from the United States these days how?

There is no rule of law here.

Skywise on March 31, 2013 at 5:17 PM

North Korea The Obama Administration is more like an “organized crime family running a territory” than a government

VorDaj on March 31, 2013 at 5:24 PM

And that’s different from the United States these days how?

Skywise on March 31, 2013 at 5:17 PM

Obama has a lot more drones and hollow points.

VorDaj on March 31, 2013 at 5:26 PM

The whole place is pretty much at the mercy of one man’s kicking and screaming

Sounds familiar.

VorDaj on March 31, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Thank God our new Secretary of Defense is one of the most competent ever. Even though he said he has a lot to learn. And he doesn’t make policy. Which is a good thing, since doesn’t know what our policy is anyway.

Thank God for that.

Curtiss on March 31, 2013 at 5:48 PM

While North Korea is a hideous hive of scum and villainy, sanctions don’t help anything. They only push us closer to war. As was proven by North Korea now declaring a state of war between them and the South. Why? Because of sanctions. And testing nukes within your own country for defense is not really a threat to anyone. I abhor North Korea’s government, but what’s new? I abhor most government.

fatlibertarianinokc on March 31, 2013 at 5:54 PM

As far as I see, this is not even a government, it’s more like an organized crime family running a territory.

And this is news to who?

Its been that way since grandaddy Kim was installed is the leader of North Korea.

cozmo on March 31, 2013 at 5:55 PM

King: North Korea is more like an “organized crime family running a territory” giant cult than a government

Cleombrotus on March 31, 2013 at 6:02 PM

While North Korea is a hideous hive of scum and villainy, sanctions don’t help anything. They only push us closer to war.

fatlibertarianinokc on March 31, 2013 at 5:54 PM

So the obvious alternative for you is to continue to do business with really bad actors or else they might get angry and threaten to punch someone. Is that it?

beatcanvas on March 31, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Peter King is quite right about NK..but then as an enthusiastic supporter of Sinn Fein/IRA he knows a lot about organised crime families masquerading as political movements

callingallcomets on March 31, 2013 at 6:18 PM

I guess that makes China the Godfather…

RoadRunner on March 31, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Rhetoric up another notch as we are now sending F-22′s from Okinawa to ROK to join in the ongoing exercises.

dddave on March 31, 2013 at 6:27 PM

So the obvious alternative for you is to continue to do business with really bad actors or else they might get angry and threaten to punch someone. Is that it?

beatcanvas on March 31, 2013 at 6:10 PM

I think they are playing the same game as always. Stomp and threaten..wait for the offer that benefits them, take it. Repeat when needed.

Mimzey on March 31, 2013 at 6:29 PM

So then it’s just like Chicago.

RedRedRice on March 31, 2013 at 6:37 PM

So then it’s just like Chicago.

RedRedRice on March 31, 2013 at 6:37 PM

And Cook County, and Illinois.

farsighted on March 31, 2013 at 6:42 PM

The whole place is pretty much at the mercy of one man’s kicking and screaming

Sounds familiar.

VorDaj on March 31, 2013 at 5:29 PM

…yep!…to the other two comments too!

KOOLAID2 on March 31, 2013 at 6:44 PM

King: North Korea is more like an “organized crime family running a territory” than a government

So they’re Democrats!

RJL on March 31, 2013 at 6:48 PM

…sanctions don’t help anything. They only push us closer to war. As was proven by North Korea now declaring a state of war between them and the South. Why? Because of sanctions.

fatlibertarianinokc on March 31, 2013 at 5:54 PM

Clinton tried the opposite policy, he gave Kim boatloads of food, fuel and money on the condition that North Korea not build nukes. Conservatives knew all along that was a stupid and failing policy and time has proven us correct. Clinton’s aid was no doubt used to help finance North Korea’s nukes which now have us in a tighter spot sooner than we would have been had we ignored the little Kim dictator.

If neither the carrot or the stick work, what is left to us?

RJL on March 31, 2013 at 7:00 PM

As far as I see, this is not even a government, it’s more like an organized crime family running a territory.

It’s the Chicago North Korean way.

Mojave Mark on March 31, 2013 at 7:03 PM

Actually, to be fair to the little fat freak, much of Asia is run by “families/strongmen”, as is the M.E.

OldEnglish on March 31, 2013 at 7:13 PM

Bmore on March 31, 2013 at 7:11 PM

The nose ring is a little much.

cozmo on March 31, 2013 at 7:16 PM

…when’s JugEars going to drone him?

KOOLAID2 on March 31, 2013 at 7:16 PM

As far as I see, this is not even a government, it’s more like an organized crime family running a territory.

So maybe we should find a Kennedy to negotiate with them, maybe make them an offer they can’t refuse?

slickwillie2001 on March 31, 2013 at 7:20 PM

cozmo on March 31, 2013 at 7:16 PM

Homage to our double super secret agent Dennis.

Bmore on March 31, 2013 at 7:24 PM

Besides cozmo, have a look at the version I had thought about going with earlier on. That might have been a little much. ; ) Same link. Here. Its under the first version, scroll down just a bit. ; )

Bmore on March 31, 2013 at 7:31 PM

But, really. As the WSJ put it yesterday, the problem with just acting crazy as your diplomatic strategy is that it doesn’t rule out the possibility that you are crazy.
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NorthKoreanGoons are Full-On Loony-Tic Bat-Shit InSane NutJobs!!

And,it was sweet to see that the US B-2 Stealth Bomber paying a visit,over the Pennensula,to remind/show,NK,that they can deliver
a Nuclear Weapon Payload,

over there airspace,and have ICBM and SLBM,from Silos’s and
Submarine Missile Launch Tubes,as an insurance policy,of total
anniliation,if the NK keeps up its ComeUppance!!!!!!

canopfor on March 31, 2013 at 7:41 PM

“organized crime family running a territory”……

….like the Ruling class in D.C. you mean?

PappyD61 on March 31, 2013 at 7:43 PM

Nuclear Life *(Blood-sarc,my words)
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North Korea: Nukes are our country’s ‘life’ – @NBCNews

9 hours ago from worldnews.nbcnews.com by editor

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/north-korea-nuclear-program
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North Korea: Nukes are our country’s ‘life’
10 Hrs.Ago

One of North Korea’s top decision-making bodies is setting guidelines that call nuclear weapons “the nation’s life” that won’t be traded even for “billions of dollars,” The Associated Press reported.

The statement Sunday came after a plenary meeting of the central committee of the ruling Workers’ Party attended by leader Kim Jong Un and other officials, the AP said.

It also followed a declaration on Saturday that it was entering a “state of war” with South Korea, the latest in a string of increasingly belligerent outbursts from the isolated state.
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Sunday’s statement says nuclear weapons aren’t “goods for getting U.S. dollars” or a “political bargaining chip.” Outside analysts have said Pyongyang raises worries over its nuclear ambitions to spur nuclear-disarmament-for-aid talks, the AP said.
Slideshow: Glimpses into the hermit kingdom of North Korea

David Guttenfelder / AP

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It said Pyongyang will also increase work to build up the economy. Kim has made fixing the moribund economy a focus.
(More….)
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http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/31/17539256-north-korea-nukes-are-our-countrys-life?lite

canopfor on March 31, 2013 at 7:50 PM

Speaking of “organized crime”……how about this new story on OBAMACARE and the pressure in Texas?

Rick Perry is feeling pressure led by…..

John Zerwas, a Republican in the state house, is pushing a legislative proposal that would allow the state’s health commission to reach a deal with the Obama administration to expand Medicaid under certain conditions. Caving!!!!

If any of you know anyone living in Zerwas district you better get on the phone and let him know your opposition. PRONTO.

PappyD61 on March 31, 2013 at 7:53 PM

*The NK….The Mad/Hat–ten Project*?

North Korea threatens to strengthen nuclear arsenal, KCNA news agency reports – AAP

10 hours ago from http://www.news.com.au by editor
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N Korea vows to strengthen nuclear weapons

AAP
March 31, 2013 11:32PM
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ORTH Korea has vowed to strengthen its nuclear weapons, a day after announcing it is in a “state of war” with South Korea, and says it will never trade its atomic deterrent for aid.

Tensions have risen sharply on the peninsula since the United Nations tightened sanctions in response to the North’s nuclear and missile tests, and the United States and South Korea launched military drills south of the border.

On Saturday the North declared it was in a “state of war” with the South and warned Seoul and Washington that any provocation would swiftly escalate into an all-out nuclear conflict.

A meeting on Sunday of the central committee of the ruling Workers’ Party, guided by leader Kim Jong-Un, decided the country’s possession of nuclear weapons “should be fixed by law”, the official KCNA news agency reported without elaborating.

The nuclear armed forces “should be expanded and beefed up qualitatively and quantitatively until the denuclearisation of the world is realised”, it added.

Members also decided to develop a light water reactor as part of a civilian nuclear power industry to ease electricity shortages, KCNA said.

The North in 2010 disclosed the existence of a uranium enrichment facility and light water reactor, purportedly to generate power. Experts said it could easily be reconfigured to make fuel for nuclear weapons.

The North in April 2009 formally abandoned six-party talks offering it economic and security benefits in return for denuclearisation.

On Sunday it reiterated its atomic weapons are not a bargaining chip.

“They are a treasure of a reunified country which can never be traded with billions of dollars,” KCNA quoted the central committee members as saying.

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/world/n-korea-vows-to-strengthen-nuclear-weapons/story-e6frfkui-1226610021937?from=public_rss

canopfor on March 31, 2013 at 8:00 PM

PappyD61 on March 31, 2013 at 7:53 PM

Most Texans are a little more interested in what is going on in Kaufman.

Perry cannot cave on this. Dewhurst won’t, and neither will any of the republicans who want to further their careers.

cozmo on March 31, 2013 at 8:00 PM

“organized crime family running a territory”……

….like the Ruling class in D.C. you mean?

PappyD61 on March 31, 2013 at 7:43 PM

PappyD61:Ya nailed it,why yes,the DemonRat Don’s Of D.C.:)

canopfor on March 31, 2013 at 8:04 PM

SK,up’s the ante,in Exercise Foal Eagle!

Reuters Top News ‏@Reuters 2h

U.S. F-22 stealth jets join South Korea drills amid saber-rattling http://reut.rs/177NAK4
======================

March 31 2013 6:01pm EDT

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/31/us-korea-north-usa-f-idUSBRE92U09V20130331

canopfor on March 31, 2013 at 8:36 PM

Do ya’ll know how fast Kim could fix his problems and become one of the wealthiest men in the world, if he were to announce that he was converting to Islam?

MikeA on March 31, 2013 at 8:48 PM

How much more will it take for S Korea to to do, well… anything. The Norks sank one of their frigates and fired artillery on a island town and in retaliation….? A little less food and fuel across the border? Boy, that showedthem…

Yakko77 on March 31, 2013 at 9:22 PM

The good news is Kim CAN “back off” whenever he wants, with or without some minor attack as a meaningless gesture first. As a totalitarian regime, no one challenges his state propaganda, the labor camps are death camps.

No major troop movements or mobilizations have taken place and the Kaesong industrial area runs on without incident. If Kim’s threats were serious, one would expect full mobilization and the closure of Kaesong, as has been the case in previously engineered “crises.”

Bluster.

Adjoran on March 31, 2013 at 9:30 PM

The situation is clear …
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… Kim Jong Un is finally starting puberty.
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He needs what all initially pubescent rowdy boys snots need: a bloody nose, a fat lip, and a good butt-beating with a large belt.
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When, if ever, he loses his baby-fat, then we should consider taking him seriously … I expect it to be sort of like waiting for his father, the well-fed dwarf, to grow a few more inches to fill up the void between the top of his head and the top of his hair-do …

Arbalest on March 31, 2013 at 10:01 PM

“organized crime family running a territory”……

….like the Ruling class in D.C. you mean?

[PappyD61 on March 31, 2013 at 7:43 PM]

I’ll take “Pick a Country” for $1,000 Alex.

Dusty on March 31, 2013 at 10:36 PM

I just Hate ALL Politicians right now,

I just Hate ALL OF THEM!!

williamg on March 31, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Warlords.

But look at that little punk!

Sherman1864 on April 1, 2013 at 12:22 AM

“organized crime family running a territory”……

….like the Ruling class in D.C. you mean?

PappyD61 on March 31, 2013 at 7:43 PM

heh

N Korea makes noise if China lets it make noise.

China is moving fast to isolate US influence. First, the currency deal with Brazil. Now, dropping the USD (dollar) for dealings with Australia. The standoffs over Japanese territory is also to cost us either money or influence

N. Korea diverts US resources. If it blows up something, probably even better. Whatever it blows up either costs the US money, or interferes with US business.

I hate to say it, but IMHO the rats in DC also use the Korean situation to blow smoke on their own dirty deals. How’s that amnesty moving along in the Senate?

China would probably love the US to do amnesty. That would be almost as good as a currency downgrade. Amnesty too would weaken the American hegemony, as they integrate 20 million who intend to retain the culture of the drug cartel to the south

entagor on April 1, 2013 at 12:44 AM

Well said Mr. King.

pat on April 1, 2013 at 2:44 AM

As far as I see, this is not even a government, it’s more like an organized crime family running a territory.

Gee, some could make a strong case for saying the same thing about our Chicago based gang.

Don L on April 1, 2013 at 3:18 AM

Kim Jong-Un is the Barky of the East. I wonder if he eats dogs, too?

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 31, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Hot dogs…armor(ed) hot dogs…

This must be the sequel to “Gangs of New York” (Chicago vs Pyongyang.)

But I’m thinking that 0bama wants a war with North Korea for a variety of political, not ethical, reasons.

ProfShadow on April 1, 2013 at 5:27 AM

But I’m thinking that 0bama wants a war with North Korea for a variety of political, not ethical, reasons.

ProfShadow on April 1, 2013 at 5:27 AM

Not that I’m totally against the idea of wiping Austin off the face of the planet but I would also suggest that China really needs to be the one to deal with Kim Jong Un while the US protects South Korea.

Happy Nomad on April 1, 2013 at 7:18 AM

China is moving fast to isolate US influence.…N. Korea diverts US resources. If it blows up something, probably even better. Whatever it blows up either costs the US money, or interferes with US business.

Can China really afford to hurt the US –the source of its business and debt payments? The Chinese people have learned to accept a better lifestyle (thanks to us) and the risk to revolution might never be worth the chance, not to mention, China is cunning but not insane–loosing the madman with nukes could easily get out of control and risk stability, if not war with China…Russia etc. we

This isn’t Iran driven by irrational thirst for doomsday.
My thoughts go back to the early 1950′s and wonder had Truman let MacArthur pursue the war, and we not copped out of Vietnam after winning the Tet Offensive…

Don L on April 1, 2013 at 8:29 AM

Since our Lib/Prog “friends” now have their targeted assassination freak on, I think it is time to bring back some good guys to help the Israelis with their regime modification schemes. Time for more Black-Ops (pardon the irony) special units. I don’t dream of drones, but of the Kim’s and their ilk being squashed like the insects they are.

trl on April 1, 2013 at 11:28 AM