Biden: The assault-weapons ban is “just the beginning” of our gun-control plans

posted at 11:21 am on March 29, 2013 by Allahpundit

I missed this on Wednesday but Breitbart didn’t. Why would Crazy Joe confirm the worst suspicions of gun-rights supporters by admitting that Democrats won’t stop at the AWB? It’s much harder to use an incrementalist strategy towards aggressive regulation when you’re calling attention to your incrementalism. The way to play this, as Mike Bloomberg could tell you, is to reassure the public that you’re only trying to tweak their behavior at the margins with minor infringements on freedom. If you tell the frog you’re trying to boil him, he’ll jump out of the pot.

This is, I take it, actually an admission of defeat by Biden. He knows the AWB won’t pass this year; with the GOP likely to hold the House and pick up seats in the Senate in 2014, it won’t pass before O leaves office either. If you know you’re beat, you might as well comfort your base with grandiose bluster about the golden age of gun control to come. Who knows? He might even believe it. Judging from the stories about his ludicrous presidential ambitions, he might honestly imagine himself signing a new AWB into law circa 2017. Good ol’ Joe.

By the way, note that he refers not once but twice here to assault weapons as “weapons of war.” Obama used the same term yesterday in his speech. This is, apparently, the White House’s new messaging gambit to goose support for the AWB, never mind the fact that the U.S. military’s actual weapon of war, the M16, is fully automatic. Half the battle for public opinion on this subject is confusing the public into believing AR-15s are machine guns. It’s clever, and characteristically dishonest.

Update: A clarification via a military reader: Not all versions of the M16 are fully automatic. The M16A3 has that capability, but the M16A2/A4 used by most Marines only fires up to three-shot bursts. Both weapons also have a semiautomatic mode.


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That’s not fully automatic. Am I missing something?

Living4Him5534 on March 29, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Nope. Only that it was misstated by AP, unintentionally. M16A2, which as you said is what is currently used by the military, is a select fire weapon. The M16A1 (not in use for many many years) was a fully automatic weapon. One trigger pull unloaded the entire magazine, 30 rounds.

If it fires more than one round per one pull of the trigger, it’s fully-automatic.
Two-round MP5, 3-round M-16, 5-round Sig…all full-auto.

Solaratov on March 29, 2013 at 12:00
PM

No. M16A2 is not a fully automatic weapon. You can keep saying it, it just wont make it so. 3 round burst is just that.

mauioriginal on March 29, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Where is the GOP pushback telling these traitors that Americans intend to keep their guns, traditional marriage, and normal paths to citizenship?

Happy Nomad on March 29, 2013 at 12:18 PM

I can’t help you out there, HN. There are many reasons that I’ve never been a Republican a single day in my life. That the GOP is “The Stupid Party” is only one of them.

Resist We Much on March 29, 2013 at 12:46 PM

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

…because it irritates the fools.

Schadenfreude on March 29, 2013 at 12:27 PM

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

Yeppers

VegasRick on March 29, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Joey “The Mouth” Biden, the gift that keeps on giving.

GarandFan on March 29, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Solaratov’s difficulty is that he keeps inserting the word “fully”. Yes, “select-fire” weapons are automatics, but they are not “fully” automatic. And, yes, the BATFE can be idiots when using terms, just like anyone else.

GWB on March 29, 2013 at 12:52 PM

dentarthurdent on March 29, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Thankfully for me I have absolutely no less than I need and no more than I need in the firearms department and the ammo department. I have a reputable source so far for all the Federal 135gr. JHP .40 S&W and Hornady reloaded 55gr. V-max .223 ammo. After 40 plus years of enjoying the shooting sports you can’t help but make contacts that you can rely on.

fourdeucer on March 29, 2013 at 12:59 PM

AP: I’m sure I’m not the first to point this out, but the standard issue rifle for the US military, the M4 carbine, does not have a fully automatic function. It can fire one or three rounds for every pull of the trigger.
Sgt Steve on March 29, 2013 at 12:44 PM

According to all the documents and specs I’ve seen, there are 2 models, both with select fire trigger groups. The M4 standard model has semi-auto and 3 round burst fire. The M4A1 has semi-auto and full auto, and is primarily used by various special forces.

dentarthurdent on March 29, 2013 at 1:06 PM

The M16 hasnt been fully automatic since the military discovered in Vietnam that giving it that capability just resulted in troops burning through their ammo too quickly without increasing effectiveness (because you can’t hit anything).

The military DOES use full auto weapons for suppression, which is all that full auto is good for at the soldier level, with the most common examples being the SAW and the M240. The point of these weapons is to throw a lot of bullets down range to force the enemy to take cover instead of being free to move and fire.

Heavier weapons mounted on vehicles tend to be full auto until they get too big for it, simply because the vehicle is a more stable platform and the weapons are designed to be used in bursts (like the Bradley’s gun, the Humvee mounted guns, etc).

kaltes on March 29, 2013 at 1:23 PM

HOW did this clown get to a position of power and influence such as he has today. He makes me sick!

ExpressoBold on March 29, 2013 at 1:26 PM

Greasy Joe makes Quayle sound like an intellectual. As dishonest as he is stupid, Greasy Joe will go down in history as the worst VP ever.

Jaibones on March 29, 2013 at 1:31 PM

No. M16A2 is not a fully automatic weapon. You can keep saying it, it just wont make it so. 3 round burst is just that.

mauioriginal on March 29, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Go tell it to the BATFE.

They need a good laugh.

(You might ask yourself why – if they aren’t ‘full-auto’ – the M-16A2 is not for sale in your local gun store.)

Solaratov on March 29, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Joe isn’t telling gun owners anything they didn’t already know. The AW ban didn’t make any sense except as a first step in a more comprehensive ban. By itself it was useless as a way of reducing criminal violence, even if you assumed it worked perfectly. But it was essential as a foot in the door as a precedent for federal laws making privately-owned guns contraband. One doesn’t have to watch the rock you let go of to know it’s going to hit the ground.

Socratease on March 29, 2013 at 1:46 PM

Guns / Gays / Amnesty !! All day, everyday.

Guns / Gays / Amnesty !! All day, everyday.

Guns / Gays / Amnesty !! All day, everyday.

Guns / Gays / Amnesty !! All day, everyday.

Guns / Gays / Amnesty !! All day, everyday.

Guns / Gays / Amnesty !! All day, everyday.

What is this?….day 100 of the Media jihad on these three issues?

Pound it, day after day, after day, after week, after week, after month, after month……..until people just finally give in from sheer exhaustion hearing about it?

PappyD61 on March 29, 2013 at 1:49 PM

IS anyone else getting tired and just watching the walls close in and all we can do is watch it being documented and bitching about it on site threads?

And the great thing is, we’re paying for it’s construction. yah…

katy on March 29, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Yep. But we’ve been allowing stuff like this to happen for decades and decades. Didn’t start with the election of Dear Leader.

Our country has long been run by various crime syndicates hiding behind the sanctity of the U.S. Constitution and the endorsement of the voter.

We conservatives as a group simply refuse to believe that all this can be happening to our Republic. We’ve shrugged off and ignored way too much over the last century. We never believed that communists could really take over, or that the criminal actions of elected officials and their bureaucrats could really get so bad as to affect us and our families.

So, we’ll continue to argue about whether Rubio or Paul or whoever will be our next Reaganesque Savior while we sink even further into Socialism, economic disaster and social depravity.

LIB.

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 29, 2013 at 1:50 PM

“If you tell the frog you’re trying to boil him, he’ll jump out of the pot.”

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

Seven Percent Solution on March 29, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Guns / Gays / Amnesty !! All day, everyday.

Guns / Gays / Amnesty !! All day, everyday.

Guns / Gays / Amnesty !! All day, everyday.

Guns / Gays / Amnesty !! All day, everyday.

Guns / Gays / Amnesty !! All day, everyday.

Guns / Gays / Amnesty !! All day, everyday.

What is this?….day 100 of the Media jihad on these three issues?

Pound it, day after day, after day, after week, after week, after month, after month……..until people just finally give in from sheer exhaustion hearing about it?

PappyD61 on March 29, 2013 at 1:49 PM

11) If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside (Alinsky 1972: 129).

Bulletchaser on March 29, 2013 at 1:57 PM

Your out of context quotes to promote your out of touch ideology only works on this blog. Evidenced by last Novembers election.

HotAirLib on March 29, 2013 at 12:12 PM

Gee, I didn’t hear Joe or Barry take these positions during the election. As a matter of fact, I believe they avoid the issue as much as they could. But since you’re so in touch, maybe you could point to the plank in the platform that called for more gun control.

RadClown on March 29, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Pound it, day after day, after day, after week, after week, after month, after month……..until people just finally give in from sheer exhaustion hearing about it?

PappyD61 on March 29, 2013 at 1:49 PM

Do you remember the daily “death announcements” of US troops by the media during the Iraq war during President George W. Bush’s years in office…?

At the top and bottom of the hour, every day, all day long, 24/7, week after week, month after month, year after year, no stories of victory, only soldiers being killed, leaks of intelligence that aided our enemy, until a once proud nation could not talk of victory, only getting out…

… It’s how the Left rolls.

What do you think is going on in our schools?

Seven Percent Solution on March 29, 2013 at 2:00 PM

Solaratov on March 29, 2013 at 12:16 PM

Frankly, I don’t give a shite what the ATF has to say. The military TO says different. My military weapons training says different.

The M240, 249, M2, MK19…THOSE are automatic weapons, ‘machine guns’ if you prefer.

The M4 with the burst cam, is not. It’s specifically designed to NOT be automatic. It’s the whole farking purpose of the burst to begin with.

catmman on March 29, 2013 at 2:02 PM

The ATF also confiscated a bunch of air soft weapons from some air soft dealer saying they were convertible to auto fire wi real ammo.

The same ATF guy n the news broadcast also tried to put an AR 15 magazine into a rifle backwards.

The ATF are, by and large, bureaucratic pencil-necks who Don’t know shite about firearms or ballistics that they don’t see in a movie.

Pardon me if I don’t get all splutter abut what the ATF says…

catmman on March 29, 2013 at 2:08 PM

There is a reason the Second Amendment is “second”, it is to protect the First Amendment. The Second Amendment of our Constitution does not “give” us the right to bear arms, it guarantees our God given right to protect ourselves from an overreaching government as implied in The Declaration of Independence. The Second Amendment is not an afterthought to the Constitution whose time has run its course, it is an integral part of the Constitution which would not have been signed but for the inclusion of Bill of Rights. At the time the Bill of Rights was made a part of the Constitution, the musket was the firearm of all armies of that time. Todays civilian semi-automatic AR-15 platform is the equivalent of 1789′s musket. As an aside, the “AR” in AR-15 does not stand for “assault rifle” but for the original manufacturer, ArmaLite. Shame on the gutless Republican leadership for not standing up to these dangerous statists. Since leadership will not lead, we must all lead.

As to Uncle Joe’s remark that “weapons of war” do not belong in the hands of civilians, the fact that the Federal government has outfitted civilian agencies with AR-15s, 1.6 billion rounds of ammo and armored vehicles, should make civilian gun ownership incumbent upon all liberty minded people. Remember Obama’s July 2008 campaign remark in Denver: “We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” Hmmm. . .just what are those “national security objectives” he has set? To disarm Americans, perhaps? To what end? That of course is a rhetorical question, we all know the answer and what lurks in the black hearts of all statists. . . subjugation.

SpiderMike on March 29, 2013 at 2:32 PM

No. M16A2 is not a fully automatic weapon. You can keep saying it, it just wont make it so. 3 round burst is just that.

mauioriginal on March 29, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Solaratov on March 29, 2013 at 1:31 PM

The M16A1 was full-auto. The M16A2 replaced the full-auto selection with the 3 round burst. The M16A3 reinstated full-auto.
http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M16_rifle

You guys are all arguing semantics – basically over whether burst mode is or is not full-auto. The consensus I’ve seen appears to be that burst mode IS “automatic”, but not necessarily “full-auto”. The ATF regs define “automatic”, but never use the term “full-auto” or “fully automatic”. Where “full auto” appears to have come into use to some degree to distinguish continuous or fully automatic from the burst mode – which is automatic, but not really “full auto”.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burst_mode_(weapon)

The burst mode is normally employed as an intermediate fire mode between semi-automatic and fully automatic, although some firearms lack a “full auto” capability and use a burst mode instead. For instance, the M16A2 (the standard-issue service rifle of the U.S. military) has, in addition to the semi-automatic mode, a 3-round burst mode, which replaced the fully automatic mode of the previous M16A1. The reason for this replacement was the massive waste of ammunition and very poor performance of soldiers who fired their rifles in fully automatic mode during the Vietnam War.

http://www.atf.gov/regulations-rulings/rulings/atf-rulings/atf-ruling-2006-2.pdf

The National Firearms Act (NFA), 26 U.S.C. Chapter 53, defines the term “firearm” to include a machinegun. Section 5845(b) of the NFA defines “machinegun” as “any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger.

Just my 2 cents.

dentarthurdent on March 29, 2013 at 2:35 PM

No. M16A2 is not a fully automatic weapon. You can keep saying it, it just wont make it so. 3 round burst is just that.

mauioriginal on March 29, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Solaratov on March 29, 2013 at 1:31 PM

The M16A1 was full-auto. The M16A2 replaced the full-auto selection with the 3 round burst. The M16A3 reinstated full-auto.

You guys are all arguing semantics – basically over whether burst mode is or is not full-auto. The consensus I’ve seen appears to be that burst mode IS “automatic”, but not necessarily “full-auto”. The ATF regs define “automatic”, but never use the term “full-auto” or “fully automatic”. Where “full auto” appears to have come into use to some degree to distinguish continuous or fully automatic from the burst mode – which is automatic, but not really “full auto”.

From wikipedia:

The burst mode is normally employed as an intermediate fire mode between semi-automatic and fully automatic, although some firearms lack a “full auto” capability and use a burst mode instead. For instance, the M16A2 (the standard-issue service rifle of the U.S. military) has, in addition to the semi-automatic mode, a 3-round burst mode, which replaced the fully automatic mode of the previous M16A1. The reason for this replacement was the massive waste of ammunition and very poor performance of soldiers who fired their rifles in fully automatic mode during the Vietnam War.

From ATF:

The National Firearms Act (NFA), 26 U.S.C. Chapter 53, defines the term “firearm” to include a machinegun. Section 5845(b) of the NFA defines “machinegun” as “any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger.

Just my 2 cents.

dentarthurdent on March 29, 2013 at 2:37 PM

Well, it’s about time the ATF got its definition right.

catmman on March 29, 2013 at 2:45 PM

dentarthurdent on March 29, 2013 at 2:37 PM

Thank you for the more comprehensive version of “Solaratov’s difficulty is that he keeps inserting the word “fully”.” :)

GWB on March 29, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Thank you for the more comprehensive version of “Solaratov’s difficulty is that he keeps inserting the word “fully”.” :)

GWB on March 29, 2013 at 2:57 PM

I hate to use wiki as a reference for something like this, but when you’re in the middle of a thead like this, you can only find so much in a few minutes time to back up whatever you’re trying to say – especially from behind certain kinds of network firewalls.

I’d say its a given that the libs don’t understand any of this stuff.
But even within the “knowledgeable” gun community, the semantics seem to make more of a differenece to some people than others.
In this case, as well as with the whole magazine vs clip argument, where many “gun people” tend to mix the terms.
But of course libs have no clue whatsoever.

dentarthurdent on March 29, 2013 at 3:09 PM

More bellicose and outrageously provocative rhetoric from Obama’s barking dog…

claudius on March 29, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Pound it, day after day, after day, after week, after week, after month, after month……..until people just finally give in from sheer exhaustion hearing about it?

PappyD61 on March 29, 2013 at 1:49 PM

That’s the strategy — right through 2014 at least. Economy? What economy?

rrpjr on March 29, 2013 at 4:41 PM

As long as it remains acceptable to indiscriminately shoot your shotgun in the air and through doors, all will be well.

besser tot als rot on March 29, 2013 at 5:02 PM

HOW did this clown get to a position of power and influence such as he has today. He makes me sick!

ExpressoBold on March 29, 2013 at 1:26 PM

Obiviously you’ve never been to Delaware.

bw222 on March 29, 2013 at 5:16 PM

GO to HELL biden!

SHALL

NOT

BE

INFRINGED!

( ya dork !)

TX-96 on March 29, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Charlton Heston is a Saint.

hillbillyjim on March 29, 2013 at 5:44 PM

Joe Biden is the reason why no one would ever try to assassinate Obama. Obama may be an ardent anti-American socialist, but he is not stupid – he likes Biden just where he is.

tballard on March 29, 2013 at 5:48 PM

“…the M16A2/A4 used by most Marines only fires up to three-shot bursts.”

DAMN! Now, *that’s* efficiency! A full automatic empties 30 rounds in a couple of seconds, so, if you’re *not* the DHS (also it’s future subsidiary, the DoD), this baby will give you about TEN CHANCES to stop a threat.

MMM…MMM…MMM!!!

Czar of Defenestration on March 29, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Guns?

That’s nothing……..now this below?

THAT is where the future is.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/9961159/Tiny-computer-inside-the-body-could-treat-disease.html


If parents don’t let their children have this type of implant do they hate them?

The “biological computer” is made from the organic molecules and is capable of working within the living cells of organisms.

The tiny biodegradable devices could detect changes in the environment, deliver drugs within the body or even destroy potentially cancerous cells.

Scientists have already worked out how to use biological molecules to store information and to transmit data from one cell to another.

The latest study, published in Science and reported in The Independent, adds the third critical component of computing – a biological transistor that acts as a “logic gate” to determine whether a biochemical question is true or false.

Drew Endy, assistant professor of bioengineering at Stanford University in California, who led the study, said the discovery could help science develop a computer to detect disease.

“Biological computers can be used to study and reprogram living systems, monitor environments and improve cellular therapeutics,” he said.

What else could these little computers do inside of our bodies or our childrens?

PappyD61 on March 29, 2013 at 6:13 PM

Thank you for the more comprehensive version of “Solaratov’s difficulty is that he keeps inserting the word “fully”.” :)

GWB on March 29, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Dude…I don’t have any “difficulty” with guns or firearms terminology.
I’ve probably been using, buying, selling and working on guns for longer than you’ve been alive.

Solaratov on March 29, 2013 at 6:34 PM

Dude…I don’t have any “difficulty” with guns or firearms terminology.
I’ve probably been using, buying, selling and working on guns for longer than you’ve been alive.

Solaratov on March 29, 2013 at 6:34 PM

I’ve been looking for a good source from which to buy used guns rather than from a gun shop. I was told by a gun-rights policeman that this is the best way to go.

Do you know a source such as this?

avagreen on March 29, 2013 at 6:38 PM

Solaratov on March 29, 2013 at 6:34 PM

Well, it certainly came across as a difficulty in this thread, given your strident responses to folks making a perfectly good distinction – especially one that might make a difference in the mind of a low information voter. When you say “full auto” it conjures up images of spray-and-pray and “hosing down” a target. Select fire weapons are incapable of that (unless modified to be “full auto”) and we should reinforce that.

Oh, as to your experience, I appreciate it. It doesn’t hold as much weight, though, when you get as strident as you did about this subject.

GWB on March 29, 2013 at 7:03 PM

I’ve been looking for a good source from which to buy used guns rather than from a gun shop. I was told by a gun-rights policeman that this is the best way to go.

Do you know a source such as this?

avagreen on March 29, 2013 at 6:38 PM

Look local. Go to a local gun show and find a private seller. No paperwork.

tom daschle concerned on March 29, 2013 at 7:41 PM

As an active duty soldier I’ve got 20 years in Combat Arms to include 39 months on the two-way rifle range, and many years as an armorer. If it doesn’t keep firing while you keep the trigger squeezed it ain’t full-auto. I’ve done and seen a lot of trigger pulling in combat and never saw anyone use the “burst” option on the M-4, even for suppression purposes. It’s a waste of two rounds every trigger pull. And I’ve never seen or heard of a line unit with full-auto M16s (A1/A3). Also, the M4 is the army’s primary service weapon. We phased the M16 (musket) out of the 82nd back in ’98. Some regular army units (very few) still carry the M16A2 but they usually aren’t Combat Arms.

The public thinks of a machine gun as anything that keeps on firing as long as the trigger is pulled. That would normally be a belt fed weapon (crew served). The leftists want the public to associate the AR15 with “machine guns” because it sounds scarier. It’s intentional misinformation, but that’s what propaganda is.

CVMA-Dredd on March 29, 2013 at 7:42 PM

Look local. Go to a local gun show and find a private seller. No paperwork.

tom daschle concerned on March 29, 2013 at 7:41 PM

Thanks. I’ve decided against buying sight unseen or going to someone’s house, etc.

A gunshow would be perfect. Ditto the paperwork.

avagreen on March 29, 2013 at 7:48 PM

my A1 was semi or full auto.
the A2 we were going to get were semi or 3 round burst.
my M60 was only full auto.
the M16 is not always a full auto weapon.

dmacleo on March 29, 2013 at 8:17 PM

Look local. Go to a local gun show and find a private seller. No paperwork.
 
tom daschle concerned on March 29, 2013 at 7:41 PM

 
Thanks. I’ve decided against buying sight unseen or going to someone’s house, etc.
 
A gunshow would be perfect. Ditto the paperwork.
 
avagreen on March 29, 2013 at 7:48 PM

 
armslist.com
 
Find a local gunsmith and meet there for safety/inspection if needed. Good luck and have fun.

rogerb on March 29, 2013 at 10:14 PM

To “Sheriff Joe” from Chuck Heston

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORYVCML8xeE

“So as we set out this year to defeat the divisive forces that would take freedom away, I want to say those fighting words for everyone within the sound of my voice to hear and to heed — and especially for you, Mister Gore Mr Biden: From my cold, dead hands!”

oryguncon on March 29, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Your out of context quotes to promote your out of touch ideology only works on this blog. Evidenced by last Novembers election.

HotAirLib on March 29, 2013 at 12:12 PM

…B l o w me!

KOOLAID2 on March 29, 2013 at 11:49 PM

Biden…..L-O-S-E-R…..Big time.

DevilsPrinciple on March 30, 2013 at 2:45 AM

Your out of context quotes to promote your out of touch ideology only works on this blog. Evidenced by last Novembers election.

HotAirLib on March 29, 2013 at 12:12 PM

Your out of touch comments/ideology don’t work on this or any other blog as evidenced by the fact that last Novembers elections had ZERO legislative impact on an AWB or UBC.

What an embarrassment you must be to your friends and family.

DevilsPrinciple on March 30, 2013 at 3:04 AM

Eat at Joe’s and you get heartburn…

Sherman1864 on March 30, 2013 at 4:33 AM

So, like so many other issues, the libs have to blatently lie to confuse voters and MSM. Meanwhile the real problem is never solved and the rights of citizens are reduced.

stuartm80127 on March 30, 2013 at 10:51 AM

My new fantasy: I’d like to line up Biden behind O and slap the one in front so hard that the one in front would ricochet back to hit the one in back.

avagreen on March 30, 2013 at 3:02 PM

armslist.com

Find a local gunsmith and meet there for safety/inspection if needed. Good luck and have fun.

rogerb on March 29, 2013 at 10:14 PM

Thanks, rogerb, you’ve solved my dilemma about how to safely buy a good gun and in working order!

avagreen on March 30, 2013 at 3:25 PM

Thanks, rogerb, you’ve solved my dilemma about how to safely buy a good gun and in working order!
 
avagreen on March 30, 2013 at 3:25 PM

 
You’re very welcome. It’s a great resource. One thing I like is that at least 25-50% of the people on there are looking to barter for one thing or the other.
 
We love talking about them, so don’t hesitate to ask for recommendations if you need guidance (Ruger P95- cheap, reliable, cheap… Did I mention cheap and reliable? Ugly and heavy though. Great truck gun, not great for CCW.)

rogerb on March 30, 2013 at 5:10 PM

Am I going crazy? I’m starting to hate my own government more than North Korea.

MaiDee on March 30, 2013 at 8:21 PM

Thanks, rogerb, you’ve solved my dilemma about how to safely buy a good gun and in working order!

avagreen on March 30, 2013 at 3:25 PM

Ava – one caution about gun shows – the last few I’ve been to featured a lot of price gouging. I saw AR-15s identical to mine, that cost me $800, on sale for $2000. Same with ammo and magazines. Be careful at the gun shows.

dentarthurdent on March 30, 2013 at 9:44 PM

The current issue weapon to the Army (M4A1) is select fire (Semi/ fully automatic)…

BadBrad on March 31, 2013 at 12:16 AM

Joe Biden is the reason why no one would ever try to assassinate Obama. Obama may be an ardent anti-American socialist, but he is not stupid – he likes Biden just where he is.

tballard on March 29, 2013 at 5:48 PM

I am beginning to think that in this case, stupid may be preferable to evil.

merlich on March 31, 2013 at 6:38 PM

o Gunbroker.com DO NOT go to the other one who shall remain unnamed. They SUCK and its like dealing with a bunch of kindergaderners. Stick to GunBroker.com Check your laws too. Sometimes, like in Maryland, its legal to have something, but not to have it shipped in, so have it shipped to someone out of state and go pick it up and dive it home yourself. High Capacity mags is one. Can have them in Maryland, just can’t ship them in. Stupid law, or maybe not, but if you want high capacity mags, just get them out of state yourself. I’m talking high capacity so that your not at the range stopping to reload every 30 seconds.

johnnyU on April 1, 2013 at 6:49 PM

Ron Pinciaro, executive director of Connecticut Against Gun Violence, said his group will live with the lawmakers’ decision not to ban them (high capacity magazines) as other states have done. He said the leaders made their decision based on what was politically feasible.

“We have to be satisfied. There are still other things that we want, we’ll be back for in later sessions,” he said. “But for now, it’s a good thing.”

Enough said.

JackM on April 2, 2013 at 8:59 AM

Am I going crazy? I’m starting to hate my own government more than North Korea.

MaiDee on March 30, 2013

At least that fat little bastard in North Korea is honest enough to say he intends to settle accounts with us.

B.O. intends to settle accounts with white people, but doesn’t have the guts to say it.

JackM on April 3, 2013 at 9:50 AM

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