Scott to FAU: Explain this Jesus-stomping incident to me, please

posted at 10:01 am on March 27, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

I missed this incident of Academia Gone Wild when it happened, as I was in Rome covering the papal conclave, but it has all the hallmarks of cluelessness and faux “tolerance” that we’ve come to expect from higher education.  It started with a professor of intercultural communications (no, seriously) at state-run Florida Atlantic University requiring students to write the name Jesus in large block letters on a piece of paper, and then stomp on it.  One student — one? — refused to comply and told the professor that he would file a complaint over the assignment, which offended his religious beliefs.  The school promptly punished the student, who might still have been suspended had the case not attracted a large amount of media and legal attention, and hopefully a large number of jaws hitting the pavement.

Now Governor Rick Scott wants an explanation of this incident, and a very detailed plan on how FAU would never let it happen again:

Florida Atlantic University has apologized for a controversial classroom lesson that led critics to accuse the school of religious intolerance. But that didn’t stop Gov. Rick Scott for stepping into the fray on Tuesday.

Scott penned a letter to State University System Chancellor Frank Brogan demanding an investigation. “I am requesting a report of the incident, how it was handled and a statement of the university’s policies to ensure this type of ‘lesson’ will not occur again,” Scott wrote.

Earlier this month, FAU instructor Deandre Poole told students in an intercultural communications class to write the word “Jesus” on a piece of paper, throw it on the floor and stomp on it. Ryan Rotela, a junior at FAU’s Davie campus, later complained he was thrown out of class when he refused to participate. …

Rotela, who describes himself as a devout Mormon, went to Poole’s supervisor two days later to discuss the incident.

FAU officials defended the professor last week, but Rotela told The Palm Beach Post that he and an attorney from the Texas-based Liberty Institute met with FAU Dean of Students Cory King at the school’s Boca Raton campus on Monday and received an apology and a pledge that the disciplinary charges against him would be dropped.

Greg Lukianoff, president of the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE), has an excellent and nuanced look at the competing interests of academic freedom in play in this incident.  The school, the professor, and the student all have varying levels of protection for their speech in and out of the classroom, and that can make it very difficult to sort these incidents out to anyone’s satisfaction.  Lukianoff’s concern focuses on the school’s reaction to the incident more than the Jesus Stomp itself:

Further, charging the student with an offense for complaining about the assignment brings up serious free speech and due process concerns. If the professor had stepped on the word Jesus on his own, it could be argued that it was simply a provocative pedagogical technique. Instead, however, FAU saw fit to charge Rotela with violating a speech code FIRE has given a “yellow light” (on a red, yellow, and green light scale, depending on the severity of the First Amendment violation) because of the ease with which it can be unconstitutionally applied. And unconstitutionally applying its speech code to a student guilty of nothing except complaining about a professor’s class looks to be exactly what FAU did here.

Under any circumstances, the case highlights disturbing trends I highlight in my book Unlearning Liberty: Campus Censorship and the end of American Debate. First of all, the double standard is glaring. I have zero doubt that a professor would have immediately understood the problem with the assignment if the name to be written on the paper had been “Mohammed” or “Martin Luther King” instead of Jesus. I also hope that a professor would understand he had crossed a line if he asked an atheist, like me, to bow down to a shrine. The fact is that universities these days rely on double standards to function, as the overwhelming majority of colleges, like FAU, maintain unconstitutional speech codes that typically ban inappropriate, offensive, or hurtful speech. If the plain language of these codes were followed, they would not last a day, since every professor and student would be found guilty of violating them. In order to exist, these kinds of codes must be selectively applied.

The incident also highlights attitudes about Christian students on America’s campuses. In my time at FIRE, I’ve seen a sustained effort to punish evangelicals or push them off campus to a degree that would never be tolerated if aimed at other religious groups. In my book, I talk at length about the University Wisconsin’s ban on RAs leading Bible study meetings in their own rooms and on their own time. Administrators on the university’s Eau Claire campus argued that if students found out an RA was a Christian, they might not feel comfortable talking to him or her. Meanwhile, following the pattern I’ve seen cases over the country, Christian students at Vanderbilt University in Tennessee, and now at Tufts University in Boston, are being told that they cannot be recognized student groups because their constitutions and beliefs “discriminate” against people who do not share their Christian beliefs. FIRE came to the defense of a Muslim group at Louisiana State University when it faced similar arguments, and, tellingly, the college quickly understood there was something wrong with telling a religious group that it could not exclude people who do not share the group’s faith. I wish campuses understood that the same principle applies to Christians as well.

There are more practical considerations, too.  If a professor of “intercultural communications” couldn’t see how offensive this might be to some of his students, he doesn’t sound too terribly qualified to teach the course in the first place.  Besides that, what purpose did this particular exercise serve, other than to denigrate a specific set of beliefs? The tuition at FAU is $200 per credit hour for undergrad residents and over $700 per credit hour for undergrad non-residents. That’s a lot of money for a dance course.


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I’ll explain it to you: ant-Christs feel empowered in the US these days.

Akzed on March 27, 2013 at 10:03 AM

In a sane world, the professor would be disciplined. Wishful thinking, I know.

22044 on March 27, 2013 at 10:03 AM

http://is.gd/SFXDaR

The student IS being punished. The school parsed the action in its belated apology.

SarahW on March 27, 2013 at 10:04 AM

Me to Scott: Explain this Obamacare exchanges betrayal.

joekenha on March 27, 2013 at 10:06 AM

The Mohammad Stomp would have sparked some head-chopping.

Christianity is not violently responsive to offense, and is therefore, open to being offended, openly disdained and attacked.

Washington Nearsider on March 27, 2013 at 10:06 AM

Gee, any controversy could have been avoided by having half the class write “MOHAMMED” on another sheet of paper and doing the same. Of course, Deandre Poole would have a knife in his chest by now, but….

Marcus on March 27, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Oh relax, it’s not like the paper said “gay” on it.

happytobehere on March 27, 2013 at 10:10 AM

Besides that, what purpose did this particular exercise serve, other than to denigrate a specific set of beliefs?

1) To denigrate a specific set of beliefs.

2) To identify those who are still willing to take risks and object to marxist ideas.

rbj on March 27, 2013 at 10:12 AM

Please let us not forget that Deandre Javaris Poole isn’t just a radical Christ-hating professor. She is also Vice Chair of the Palm County Democrat Party.

Happy Nomad on March 27, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Conspiracy theorists are always ringing the alarm about the coming re-education camps, as if we don’t already have them.

Akzed on March 27, 2013 at 10:14 AM

I’m waiting for next month’s assignment when the students are told to draw pictures of the Prophet Mohammed, and then stomp on those.

Yep,… any… day… now…

parke on March 27, 2013 at 10:14 AM

The kid should threaten to post a video to all sorts of Jihadi websites of himself stomping on a pic of Mohammed, and provide the name of the instructor who told him to do so.

You would see the college and the instructor backtracking so fast they would set a land speed record doing so.

Bishop on March 27, 2013 at 10:16 AM

Please let us not forget that Deandre Javaris Poole isn’t just a radical Christ-hating professor. She is also Vice Chair of the Palm County Democrat Party.

Happy Nomad on March 27, 2013 at 10:13 AM

She’s a he. Maybe that’s why the anger. The boy named Sue.

Marcus on March 27, 2013 at 10:18 AM

Beaten not once, but twice to the Mohammed punch.

Per the Talking Heads song, “I’m still waiting…”

parke on March 27, 2013 at 10:20 AM

While the “professors” and “educators” who engage in these activities, like the “artists” who produce Christ soaked in urine and a feces covered Madonna, think they are edgy and clever, what they do not realize is that they are in fact playing a very dangerous game with their own souls. Pray for them.

Trafalgar on March 27, 2013 at 10:21 AM

The Mohammad Stomp would have sparked some head-chopping.

Christianity is not violently responsive to offense, and is therefore, open to being offended, openly disdained and attacked.

Washington Nearsider on March 27, 2013 at 10:06 AM

I’m not a big fan of playing games in college courses, particularly when it costs $200/credit hour. I’m guessing the idea was to have good little Christians stomp on their faith as a method of “opening” new views on the world by demonstrating that how other cultures might view Christ. Or something along those lines.

I would suggest that if you can’t bring faith into the classroom other than as part of a comparative religion course then it is equally off limits for the professor to bring religion into her lesson plan.

Happy Nomad on March 27, 2013 at 10:22 AM

Beaten not once, but twice to the Mohammed punch.

Per the Talking Heads song, “I’m still waiting…”

parke on March 27, 2013 at 10:20 AM

Beaten 3 times to it.

Can you imagine the commotion, riots, death and destruction that would arise if someone drew a picture of the opium smoking, pedophile prophet and stomped on it? It would be a world wide calamity.

acyl72 on March 27, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Maybe it’s me, being old-fashioned again, but I think that the real culprits were the other students for being nasty enough to go along with it.

OldEnglish on March 27, 2013 at 10:23 AM

received an apology and a pledge that the disciplinary charges against him would be dropped

So, let’s see… emotional harm, academic interference, post-traumatic religious stress (PTRS), and charges against him. No, I don’t see any outrage here. Move along…

The student should have offered to stomp on a photo of Obama, instead. I would have like to have seen the ‘charges’ they brought up for that.

HopeHeFails on March 27, 2013 at 10:25 AM

All the result of progressive liberalism….. cancer eating away at the Republic. Far past the time to deal with hypocrisy like this. Not a peep from alleged civil liberties groups…… time to take the country back.

ultracon on March 27, 2013 at 10:25 AM

She’s a he. Maybe that’s why the anger. The boy named Sue.

Marcus on March 27, 2013 at 10:18 AM

No kidding, really? Wow, his parents must have really hated him. But with a name like that, I’m pretty sure I can guess the racial background of Dr. Poole. Not that it is relevant to the story but goes a long way in explaining why FAU might have decided to punish the student and support the action of a Christ-hating douchebag.

Happy Nomad on March 27, 2013 at 10:26 AM

Everytime I read or hear about a story like this I wonder to myself, “with classes and professors like these, how can liberals say we don’t spend enough on higher education?” It makes me think we just don’t prioritize spending.

Conservative in NOVA on March 27, 2013 at 10:26 AM

One student — one? — refused to comply… It started with a professor of intercultural communications (no, seriously)

The larger problem is that intercultural communication is also the name of the textbook from which this lesson was taken. So how many other schools use this book, and if they are, is this the first time anyone objected?

RadClown on March 27, 2013 at 10:27 AM

Washington Nearsider on March 27, 2013 at 10:06 AM

Marcus on March 27, 2013 at 10:07 AM

parke on March 27, 2013 at 10:14 AM

You betcha.
I want to see this “professor” do a mohammed stomp – and put the video out for all to see. Actually, I would have liked to see a student do that – write mohammed on the paper and stomp the h3ll out of it, and see how the “professor” responds when he sees what was written.
Let’s see what kind of lesson he and the college learn about religion from THAT experience.

dentarthurdent on March 27, 2013 at 10:28 AM

The Mohammad Stomp would have sparked some head-chopping.

Washington Nearsider on March 27, 2013 at 10:06 AM

Not to mention rioting, national strikes, firebombings, general Religion Of Peace mayhem.

pilamaye on March 27, 2013 at 10:28 AM

No kidding, really? Wow, his parents must have really hated him. But with a name like that, I’m pretty sure I can guess the racial background of Dr. Poole. Not that it is relevant to the story but goes a long way in explaining why FAU might have decided to punish the student and support the action of a Christ-hating douchebag.

Happy Nomad on March 27, 2013 at 10:26 AM

Maybe lfod knows him.

22044 on March 27, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Maybe it’s me, being old-fashioned again, but I think that the real culprits were the other students for being nasty enough to go along with it.

OldEnglish on March 27, 2013 at 10:23 AM

You are being old-fashioned. In classrooms today you don’t challenge the liberal ideology if you want to pass the course. You simply parrot back the crap the professor wants you to say and move on. Look what happened to the one dissenter to Dr. Poole’s Christ-bashing. FAU decided to punish him for not going along with the program. FAU even lied about the outcome when the media glare took hold. I wouldn’t even send the rat-eared devil’s mini-moochers to a college with this lack of academic integrity.

Critical thinking died in academia years ago. That’s why those plugs for Hillsdale College on talk radio are such a refreshing change.

Happy Nomad on March 27, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Reason #1 of 6789 why I’m more and more inclined to assist liberals in getting their jaws wired shut.

Yep. I said it. I LOATHE them, and I don’t pretend to play nice anymore.

Polish Rifle on March 27, 2013 at 10:34 AM

what if it was a Koran? What if it was a picture of *Mohammed*?

ted c on March 27, 2013 at 10:34 AM

Only when an unofficial education system replaces the propaganda mills who employ the Pavlovian Marxists as professor and teachers will the strangle hold on the careers and jobs path end.

Businesses need to start hiring on other than a degree certifying that you survived the propaganda mills.

The various levels of governments have proven themselves unwilling and incapable of just teaching for technical information, truthful history without politics, and take socialism out of all social courses. They need to demand students show a proclivity for critical thinking in their search for truth, and most egregiously, they need to drop PC from any instiution that pretends to be education and not indoctrination centers.
Don’t wait for either political party to allow the cure to happen.

Don L on March 27, 2013 at 10:35 AM

The Mohammad Stomp would have sparked some head-chopping.

Washington Nearsider on March 27, 2013 at 10:06 AM

Not to mention rioting, national strikes, firebombings, general Religion Of Peace mayhem.

pilamaye on March 27, 2013 at 10:28 AM

Not to mention the POTUS and Secretaty of State getting on national tv and distancing themselves and the country from this insulting, possibly criminal, un-American behavior.

parke on March 27, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Beaten 3 times to it.

Can you imagine the commotion, riots, death and destruction that would arise if someone drew a picture of the opium smoking, pedophile prophet and stomped on it? It would be a world wide calamity.

acyl72 on March 27, 2013 at 10:23 AM

That would have been great. “Hey, professor! I wrote down Mohammed. That’s basically the same thing, right? Is it safe to assume this exercise could also apply to Martin Luther King or Karl Marx?”

RadClown on March 27, 2013 at 10:38 AM

A Mohammed stomp is out of the question. The future does not belong to those who slander Islam. The future belongs to those who slander Christ.

The Rogue Tomato on March 27, 2013 at 10:38 AM

She’s a he. Maybe that’s why the anger. The boy named Sue.

Marcus on March 27, 2013 at 10:18 AM

Kind of like that Maddow dude on MSNBC. He’s always upset above stuff, probably because he was named Rachael.

LoganSix on March 27, 2013 at 10:40 AM

You know it has been said already, but these idiots are cowards. Show me one Professor that does this with Islam and I will show you an anti-theist with principles. Until Meh!

melle1228 on March 27, 2013 at 10:41 AM

Happy Nomad on March 27, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Glad I’m past all that nonsense, then.

OldEnglish on March 27, 2013 at 10:41 AM

The larger problem is that intercultural communication is also the name of the textbook from which this lesson was taken. So how many other schools use this book, and if they are, is this the first time anyone objected?

RadClown on March 27, 2013 at 10:27 AM

The funny thing is that the author of that textbook teaches at a Catholic liberal arts college. The emphasis must be on the liberal part because the homepage features a political science major who is standing in Cuba with a image of either Che or Castro behind him.

Happy Nomad on March 27, 2013 at 10:43 AM

Again, the school dissembled on action taken against the student in relation to the assignment.

His strenuous objections to the professor and promise to not let the matter drop are indeed the basis of an ongoing disciplinary action against the student.

It’s directly related to the assignment, and the college was not truthful. They parsed, and their basis for saying no student was punished for not participating is that he was punished for objecting and promising to report.

SarahW on March 27, 2013 at 10:44 AM

You are being old-fashioned. In classrooms today you don’t challenge the liberal ideology if you want to pass the course. You simply parrot back the crap the professor wants you to say and move on. Look what happened to the one dissenter to Dr. Poole’s Christ-bashing. FAU decided to punish him for not going along with the program. FAU even lied about the outcome when the media glare took hold. I wouldn’t even send the rat-eared devil’s mini-moochers to a college with this lack of academic integrity.

Critical thinking died in academia years ago. That’s why those plugs for Hillsdale College on talk radio are such a refreshing change.

Happy Nomad on March 27, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Exactly! I had a short introductory family law class about 10 weeks. THREE weeks of it was devoted to GAY unions and families. This was a couple of years ago, and at the time like two states had gay marriage on the books. I complained. Why were we spending some much times on unions that even if passed in all 50 states would still make up a miniscule part of what my case load would be. You would think I said that gays should be burned at the stake. And then I wrote my paper on traditional family law and the introduction of nofault divorce on marriage– forget it.

melle1228 on March 27, 2013 at 10:45 AM

One student — one? — refused to comply

Not necessarily surprising. I don’t know anything about FAU. Had this occurred at my undergrad alma mater – ULL – I’d be surprised if there weren’t more that refused (and more so if the administration didn’t condemn the professor). Had it occurred at the school I’m currently attending, University of Denver, I’d not be surprised if no one objected. Same goes for if it happened at UC Berkley.

While I agree with the student’s position, on one hand there is no power or value in the exercise in and of itself. On the other hand, this is clearly not just about peer pressure, but about asking people to publicly reject Jesus.

There are many people who would call themselves Christians, the kind who’ll say the platitude or theologically obtuse things, the CINO’s who’d have no problem complying with the professor because they realize it’s just a piece of paper and a word. But, they’re dense to the broader and deeper implication and more worried about the temporal.

As well, a course on Intercultural Communications? That to me would automatically lend itself to enrollment of a certain stripe of students to begin with… thus already stacking the deck. The professor probably figured there was already a compliant, agreeable audience for the most part – as was clearly evidenced by the singular hold-out.

Lastly, things like this don’t happen in a vacuum and unless this is the professor’s first time teaching this course, it’s entirely probably that the instructor has done this before or something similar. I knew about a number of my instructors before I’d ever taken any of their courses from conversations with fellow students who had taken them.

Logus on March 27, 2013 at 10:47 AM

I don’t know which is more incredible here…that a prof actually gave this assignment…that only one student refused to participate…or that the school punished that student. The whole thing is unbelievable, yet it happened.

Liberal bias at state universities is nothing new. The worst I ran into in college was a liberal prof for Intro to US politics 101. She made Michael Moore look conservative. It was a large lecture class and I was singled out a few times, and got a “C” for the course. I know full well I deserved a higher grade but never followed up on it…but for sure the low grade was for my political stance and nothing else.

JetBoy on March 27, 2013 at 10:48 AM

Does Deandre Poole post here on HA on a regular basis..?

d1carter on March 27, 2013 at 10:49 AM

I have zero doubt that a professor would have immediately understood the problem with the assignment if the name to be written on the paper had been “Mohammed” or “Martin Luther King” instead of Jesus.

At my college in the 1970s, an esteemed frat house, SAE, had a “Martin Luther King Trash Day” party … not sure the point … where you had to bring a piece of junk to get into the party. There was a huge uproar. Suspended, and/or put on probation, and so on. Their frat house had a beautiful brick facade which some protester against the “MLK Trash Day” event had spray painted some protest or other.

In 1966 John Lennon famously said “We’re more popular than Jesus”. In the pop culture, Jesus’s name has gone down in value quite a bit since then. I think the name of Obama has more cachet today.

Paul-Cincy on March 27, 2013 at 10:52 AM

Please do more follow up on this story.

nitro on March 27, 2013 at 10:53 AM

A more aggressive and probably more educational reponse would have been to write “Muhammed” on the paper, then stomp. Then make a point of indicating to the teacher what he had just done. It might have made for fewer headlines (or not, since the teacher seems to be a raging moron) and a more educational outcome for the other students.

I wonder if this teacher has ever been to Thailand and/or been educated in the several faux pas possible there – like stepping on your paper money if it falls on the ground and begins to blow away. You can literally go to jail for stepping on the King’s face. It might be something he should look into since he was teaching “intercultural communications”.

GWB on March 27, 2013 at 10:54 AM

You would think I said that gays should be burned at the stake. And then I wrote my paper on traditional family law and the introduction of nofault divorce on marriage– forget it.

melle1228 on March 27, 2013 at 10:45 AM

I had a required course for my Masters that was essentially about diversity in the workplace but it had some other name attached to it. The professor was one of those 50-somethings that still run around in sneakers and wear a ponytail. In short the spitting image of an aging hippie.

Anyway, part of the course involved student presentations on various aspects of workplace life (gender issues, discrimination, privacy, etc.) One student got up and discussed affirmative action as if we were still living in the 1950s and companies had a policy of discriminating based on race and gender. Another student got up and talked about sexual harassment in such a way that the victim was always a she and the harasser was always a he. It was awful. But I dutifully made my presentation (about what I can’t remember) to accomodate the professor, took my grade, and moved on courses that mattered.

Happy Nomad on March 27, 2013 at 10:56 AM

The student should have offered to stomp on a photo of Obama, instead. I would have like to have seen the ‘charges’ they brought up for that.

HopeHeFails on March 27, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Well, it wouldn’t be Obama, ’cause it looks like he’s writing the book on Obama

PortlandJon on March 27, 2013 at 10:58 AM

Well, Poole and FAU, you asked for this ‘Stomping Jesus’ exercise to help teach “Intercultural Communication: A Contextual Approach” and now you are are getting it.

How’s it taste?

Dusty on March 27, 2013 at 10:59 AM

It’s not just Christian students. As a non-leftist Jew, if I were to go back to school-even here-to complete my BA, I’d likely run into some problems in class. I refused to be silenced in my 20s-so there’s zero way I’ll be silenced now that I’m in my 40′s.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 27, 2013 at 10:59 AM

The left wants kids to ‘question authority’ as long as it’s not theirs.

RadClown on March 27, 2013 at 11:00 AM

Scott to FAU: Explain this Jesus-stomping incident to me, please

Better yet, ask them what they would think about a similar Mohammed stomping exercise.

farsighted on March 27, 2013 at 11:00 AM

Let the teacher do that with the name of the muslim prophet and see what happens.

dogsoldier on March 27, 2013 at 11:04 AM

You know it has been said already, but these idiots are cowards. Show me one Professor that does this with Islam and I will show you an anti-theist with principles. Until Meh!

melle1228 on March 27, 2013 at 10:41 AM

Standard practice. The loonbat Richard Dawkins is the same way. He starts frothing at the mouth when talking about Christianity. He’s like a Pit Bull on a chain being teased. But ask him about islam, -he suddenly turns very passive and timid, saying “well… I don’t really know much about islam”.

slickwillie2001 on March 27, 2013 at 11:04 AM

Ah I see several others made the same observation.

dogsoldier on March 27, 2013 at 11:05 AM

Standard practice. The loonbat Richard Dawkins is the same way. He starts frothing at the mouth when talking about Christianity. He’s like a Pit Bull on a chain being teased. But ask him about islam, -he suddenly turns very passive and timid, saying “well… I don’t really know much about islam”.

slickwillie2001 on March 27, 2013 at 11:04 AM

Most so-called atheists are really just anti-Christianity and hiding their loathing of that particular religion behind the banners of atheism and “religious freedom.”

Doomberg on March 27, 2013 at 11:13 AM

Good reason to FIRE this idiot . Period .

Lucano on March 27, 2013 at 11:14 AM

I read that this professor was the local county chair of the Dem party..

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/palm-beach-democratic-party-vice-chair-demands-students-step-on-jesus/

Intrepid767 on March 27, 2013 at 11:15 AM

Was it a reenactment of last years Dem convention vote on GOD?

BL@KBIRD on March 27, 2013 at 11:22 AM

The course exercise is designed to intimidate students…and the university followed through.

nuff said.

workingclass artist on March 27, 2013 at 11:26 AM

Sobering article about the Fascist direction we are heading toward as a nation…

” I was looking at my children in Mass yesterday and a horrifying thought occurred to me. If I do my job well as a parent, my children may end up persecuted and/or in jail. That may be the best I can hope for at this point in 21st century America.

I prayed that their faith would be strong enough to resist a pro-death culture, a secular academia, an antagonistic media, and the pressure of a government out to separate faith from action.

Secularism isn’t just on the march, it’s positively doing a jig.

I’m not talking about troubled times ahead for my grandchildren’s children in some possible future. I’m talking about my kids. So revolutionary have been the recent changes in America that defending life, liberty, and the pursuit of holiness could very well lead to persecution in the very near future.

Are you in doubt?

In recent years:

The “chief diversity officer” of a college was placed on leave and faced the possibility of losing her job for putting her name on a pro-traditional marriage petition.

Some local governments instituted what they call “free speech zones” for Christians.

The California legislature has declared it illegal for counselors to suggest to minors that it’s possible to overcome same-sex attractions.

And there’s always more. I don’t see how anybody could think this kind of thing is going to reverse itself or even slow down in the future.

The HHS mandate is still the law of the land and it assures that you can’t be a Catholic and a business owner at the same time.

Laws against praying and protesting in front of an abortion clinics continue to limit free speech and read like complicated word problems for graduate students. If a protestor can’t be within fifteen feet of an entrance to a clinic or make any movement towards a three week pregnant mother, how many days into the 40 Days for Life does he end up in jail?

Saying that homosexual acts are a sin could very easily become a hate crime as it has in other countries.

The federal government has already declared itself to have the right to decide the hiring and firing decisions of religious organizations. That was struck down by the courts but there’s little doubt we haven’t seen the last of that.

A teacher was recently fired for holding a pro-life position. Children are forced to remove pro-life shirts in school. Marriage is increasingly made meaningless. The classification of humanity is something the government bestows on you. Or not.

We have a media that celebrates people using each other like sexual roller coasters and the government is twisting religious freedom into freedom from religion.

I pray that my children will be willing to suffer the slings and arrows from our culture, the media, and yes the government. I hold no hope that the country I’m leaving to my children is better than it was when I was a child. That’s a terrible thought.

How do I prepare my children for the suffering that I’m sure is coming their way? My job is to introduce them to the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit will take care of the rest. I can bring them to Mass, assure they receive the sacraments, and pray the rosary with them. I can be an example of Christ in their lives.

I can continue praying for my country though I have very little hope left that things will turn around any time soon. I will also pray for my children and yours that they forgive us for not doing enough to change things, for not stepping up when a few people standing up may have made all the difference.

Read more: http://www.ncregister.com/blog/matthew-archbold/preparing-my-children-for-martyrdom#ixzz2Okq0cfbZ

workingclass artist on March 27, 2013 at 11:31 AM

If the plain language of these codes were followed, they would not last a day, since every professor and student would be found guilty of violating them.

This is true of almost every new law liberals are passing these days. Every restriction has a David Gregory loophole, an unwritten coda that says it will not be applied except to the “wrong sort of people”. Except it’s not who you think when you think of the “wrong sort”, but the kind a liberal big-government-loving bureaucrat living in a bubble thinks is the “wrong sort”, which means it is applied to people who don’t think like they do, and not applied to people that can do the bureaucrats a favor. Any law that can’t be applied to everybody equally has no place in a free country. It is corrupting and tyrannical.

Socratease on March 27, 2013 at 11:34 AM

Every restriction has a David Gregory loophole, an unwritten coda that says it will not be applied except to the “wrong sort of people”.

Don’t forget the George Zimmerman corollary, an unwritten understanding that the law will be applied by any means necessary to assuage racist instigators. Zimmerman would not have been indicted by the normal grand jury process so the special prosecutor unilaterally made the decision to charge Zimmerman for no other reason than blacks were demanding “justice” in the death of a street thug.

Happy Nomad on March 27, 2013 at 11:43 AM

I was required to take an intercultural communication course during my doctoral studies, and it boiled down to “I’m white, therefore, I’m guilty.” Being a Christian was bonus. When I wrote in a paper that I refused to feel guilty for an accident of birth, the professor wrote on my paper that I was narrow-minded and intolerant. About half the class were Christian conservatives, and she spent a good portion of the time bashing our beliefs. But we’re the ones who are intolerant. Such is the state of most of higher ed.

College Prof on March 27, 2013 at 11:48 AM

Good Grief! Only ONE?!

Cleombrotus on March 27, 2013 at 11:53 AM

We could use a few more atheists like Lukianoff.

Cleombrotus on March 27, 2013 at 11:56 AM

Read more: http://www.ncregister.com/blog/matthew-archbold/preparing-my-children-for-martyrdom#ixzz2Okq0cfbZ
workingclass artist on March 27, 2013 at 11:31 AM

Thanks for posting this.

One student — one? — refused to comply… It started with a professor of intercultural communications (no, seriously)…
Ryan Rotela, a junior at FAU’s Davie campus, later complained he was thrown out of class when he refused to participate. …
Rotela, who describes himself as a devout Mormon, went to Poole’s supervisor two days later to discuss the incident.

The LDS Church explicitly teaches its youth that they are the generation “in the line of fire”, and it is good to see that they are stepping up to the challenge.

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We are daughters of our Heavenly Father, who loves us, and we love Him. We will “stand as witnesses of God at all times and in all things, and in all places” (Mosiah 18:9) as we strive to live the Young Women values, which are:

Faith • Divine Nature • Individual Worth • Knowledge • Choice and Accountability • Good Works • Integrity • and Virtue

We believe as we come to accept and act upon these values, we will be prepared to strengthen home and family, make and keep sacred covenants, receive the ordinances of the temple, and enjoy the blessings of exaltation.

AesopFan on March 27, 2013 at 12:00 PM

Besides that, what purpose did this particular exercise serve, other than to denigrate a specific set of beliefs?

Maybe he was trying to demonstrate to the christians in his class the seemingly unhinged outrage that Muslims displayed over the Muhammad cartoons. It seems to have worked.

That defense aside, punishing the student was not right.

tommylotto on March 27, 2013 at 12:00 PM

I feel so cheated in my University education for not being offered a course in “intercultural communication”. Perhaps that is why I have been a Conservative for my entire adult life…oh wait…could this be what I think it is?

NOMOBO on March 27, 2013 at 12:03 PM

Most so-called atheists are really just anti-Christianity and hiding their loathing of that particular religion behind the banners of atheism and “religious freedom.”

Doomberg on March 27, 2013 at 11:13 AM

As a conservative, non-activist atheist (who celebrates Christmas and Easter, in secular ways) – I fully agree with that assessment. I personally am non-religious – NOT anti-religious, so I can’t stand the idiots who keep attacking public religious displays, and those that keep attacking the religious activities at the Air Force Academy (my alma mater). Everyone should be free to believe what they want to believe – just don’t threaten to kill anyone with a different belief.

I would add however, that the obnoxious activist atheists, like this so-called professor probably is, feel safe attacking Christians because they don’t go all Achmed the Dead suicide bomber over even the slightest offenses. I’ll bet this guy would crap his pants if someone published a video of a student stomping Mohammed in his class – because Muslims are not a “safe” target for his hatred.

dentarthurdent on March 27, 2013 at 12:03 PM

The FIRE article quotes the textbook assignment:

Have the students write the name JESUS in big letters on a piece of paper…Ask the students to stand up and put the paper on the floor in front of them with the name facing up. Ask the students to think about it for a moment. After a brief period of silence instruct them to step on the paper. Most will hesitate. Ask why they can’t step on the paper. Discuss the importance of symbols in culture.

Is this what actually happens in the classroom? It sounds as if the exercise FAILS because almost no one objects to stomping on the sacred name.
Using Mohammed or MLK actually might be MORE conducive to the ostensible purpose of the exercise.

AesopFan on March 27, 2013 at 12:06 PM

When I wrote in a paper that I refused to feel guilty for an accident of birth, the professor wrote on my paper that I was narrow-minded and intolerant.

College Prof on March 27, 2013 at 11:48 AM

I’ve got to take exception to the concept of “accident of birth.” It suggests that whites somehow are the fortunate ones by birth while those of color are less fortunate.

I would have phrased differently- Something along the lines of “I refuse to denigrate my race and heritage for the benefit of affirming stereotypes put forth by other races.”

Happy Nomad on March 27, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Also from FIRE (which is, I believe, a statement of their core principles):

“Academic freedom” can be a difficult concept to define. Among various theories, the academic freedom of professors is often emphasized, while the academic freedom of institutions is misunderstood, the academic freedom of departments is forgotten, and the academic freedom of students is ignored. While a student’s right to academic freedom may be comparatively humble, it at minimum should include the right to principled dissent and the right not to be required to publicly reject your beliefs. Let’s hope FAU’s very public embarrassment on this issue leads to some desperately needed recognition of its students’ academic freedom.

AesopFan on March 27, 2013 at 12:13 PM

This is such a perfect encapsulation of liberalism. The expression of hatred in the name of tolerance. Thought control and infantilism. Liberalism at its core is infantilism. You can have unlimited social welfare and entitlement spending and never worry about how to pay for it. You just stomp on a piece of paper with the word “DEBT” on it.

Ted Torgerson on March 27, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Using Mohammed or MLK actually might be MORE conducive to the ostensible purpose of the exercise.

AesopFan on March 27, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Or a picture of Obama. Wonder how many in that worthless class would have dissented if it wasn’t Christ but the rat-eared devil that was to be stomped on.

Happy Nomad on March 27, 2013 at 12:14 PM

received an apology and a pledge that the disciplinary charges against him would be dropped.

See! No problem. If you can attract national attention to your problem, bring in the state governor and an agency like FIRE, and show up with an attorney, the university will ultimately apologize and agree to … drop the disciplinary charges.

Now, where would people get the impression that universities don’t respect free speech?

There Goes The Neighborhood on March 27, 2013 at 12:18 PM

the professor wrote on my paper that I was narrow-minded and intolerant.
College Prof on March 27, 2013 at 11:48 AM

I likely would have asked her why SHE was so intolerant of whites, and why she hated white people so much. And I probably would have flunked the class – which why I’ve never gone back for any post-grad degrees. I could not be PC enough in the current “educational” system.

My wife dealt with a professor somewhat like that in her Library Masters program at University of Denver. An outspoken flaming gay guy who hated Buuuusssh and all Republicans – and was outraged at the Patriot Act. My wife actually did her final paper and presentation on the Patriot Act, which she mostly supported. To the professor’s credit, he actually gave her an A – couldn’t dispute her research – despite his own opinions. My wife has a tough time being a conservative in the library field – which is VERY left-leaning.

dentarthurdent on March 27, 2013 at 12:22 PM

Maybe lfod knows him.

22044 on March 27, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Biblically speaking.

Solaratov on March 27, 2013 at 12:26 PM

Again, the school dissembled on action taken against the student in relation to the assignment.

His strenuous objections to the professor and promise to not let the matter drop are indeed the basis of an ongoing disciplinary action against the student.

It’s directly related to the assignment, and the college was not truthful. They parsed, and their basis for saying no student was punished for not participating is that he was punished for objecting and promising to report.

SarahW on March 27, 2013 at 10:44 AM

They pledged they would drop the disciplinary charges. They apparently didn’t say when. Maybe the plan is to let the student twist in the wind for a while first.

Lovely people.

There Goes The Neighborhood on March 27, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Here’s my question…. When are people going to stand up and insist that colleges and universities stop ripping off their students? If credit hours and degrees were tangible products, ones we could hold in our hands and inspect for defects… we’d have laws protecting consumers from defective merchandise. How is this really different?

You know, the local community college where my kids attend insists that students have a PE credit for an Associates Degree. I expect most do. My son was able to satisfy that by taking a course in… (wait for it)…. GOLF. Nevermind that he’s already had PE in public school over the course of 13 years. I mean, if he hasn’t achieved an understanding of PE after 13 years, what are they saying?… that a few weeks of GOLF is going to fix it right up?

To charge students and parents for superfluous requirements and fluff courses isn’t any different than doctors charging for unnecessary treatments. We wouldn’t put up with it. So why do we continue to tolerate the financial fleecing of our young people by these con artists of academia???

Murf76 on March 27, 2013 at 12:35 PM

Second Grovelling apology issued:

http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/27/florida-atlantic-issues-new-groveling-apology-over-jesus-stomping-video/

dogsoldier on March 27, 2013 at 12:30 PM

He then swore that the school would take no disciplinary action against any student concerning the incident.

“Out of respect for student privacy laws, I cannot comment on the specifics related to the student,” Metcalf wrote. “I can, however, tell you that no disciplinary action was taken against any students regarding this matter.”

Looks like weasel words to me – indicating a probability they’ll try to find some other reason, unrelated to THIS incident of course, to punish this kid. Rotela better watch his back and every step he takes at this college for as long as he’s there.

dentarthurdent on March 27, 2013 at 12:37 PM

You know, the local community college where my kids attend insists that students have a PE credit for an Associates Degree. I expect most do. My son was able to satisfy that by taking a course in… (wait for it)…. GOLF. Nevermind that he’s already had PE in public school over the course of 13 years. I mean, if he hasn’t achieved an understanding of PE after 13 years, what are they saying?… that a few weeks of GOLF is going to fix it right up?

To charge students and parents for superfluous requirements and fluff courses isn’t any different than doctors charging for unnecessary treatments. We wouldn’t put up with it. So why do we continue to tolerate the financial fleecing of our young people by these con artists of academia???

Murf76 on March 27, 2013 at 12:35 PM

That’s exactly the point – it’s all about the money.
What if the family has a membership at Lifetime Fitness and the kid goes there to work out 5 times a week? Why couldn’t that cover the fitness requirement instead of paying the school for an unnecessary class? Then again – why would any academic degree program, other something like sports medicine or physical training even have that requirement? All about the money….

dentarthurdent on March 27, 2013 at 12:42 PM

Everytime I read or hear about a story like this I wonder to myself, “with classes and professors like these, how can liberals say we don’t spend enough on higher education?” It makes me think we just don’t prioritize spending. Conservative in NOVA on March 27, 2013 at 10:26 AM

Is it any wonder why youts support SSM? They’re pressured eight ways from Sunday to go along.

I mean, if you can be disciplined for not stomping on Jesus, what’s left?

Akzed on March 27, 2013 at 12:49 PM

What if the family has a membership at Lifetime Fitness and the kid goes there to work out 5 times a week? Why couldn’t that cover the fitness requirement instead of paying the school for an unnecessary class?

dentarthurdent on March 27, 2013 at 12:42 PM

Because it isn’t accredited. And that is one of the biggest bits of the money-making scam. You know what happens to get accredited? Yes, there are some standards. But, mostly it entails paying a lot of money to the accrediting agency to do all their inspections and get you up to speed.

It’s not about the education, it’s about the credentials. Which you pay for.

BTW, what class at the Blue Zoo?

GWB on March 27, 2013 at 12:56 PM

The slippery slope of the Litmus Test marches on…

You used to be able to keep your head down and mouth closed while the perfessors went on some rant opposing your beliefs.

Now, you’re required to stand one at a time and loudly endorse the perfessor’s beliefs, even if they oppose your own.

In one way, it’s good… it separates the wheat from the chaff.

Marcola on March 27, 2013 at 12:58 PM

What really needs to be asked is how did society get to this point? I grew up, in a time, when this would have never happened, anywhere, let alone in a university. We used to be taught to respect people and their religion. I guess when your strategy is divide and conquer you can’t have too much of that going on.

bflat879 on March 27, 2013 at 1:02 PM

BTW, what class at the Blue Zoo?

GWB on March 27, 2013 at 12:56 PM

83

dentarthurdent on March 27, 2013 at 1:04 PM

That’s exactly the point – it’s all about the money.
What if the family has a membership at Lifetime Fitness and the kid goes there to work out 5 times a week? Why couldn’t that cover the fitness requirement instead of paying the school for an unnecessary class? Then again – why would any academic degree program, other something like sports medicine or physical training even have that requirement? All about the money….

dentarthurdent on March 27, 2013 at 12:42 PM

Good question. He’s studying ENGINEERING.

I think at this point, what we need is a national organization of parents and teachers with some teeth, one that will challenge the academic “products” being sold to our children. We need to drag the stuffers and fluffers into court and make them just as responsible for their defective merchandise as any other business would be.

Murf76 on March 27, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Because it isn’t accredited. And that is one of the biggest bits of the money-making scam. You know what happens to get accredited? Yes, there are some standards. But, mostly it entails paying a lot of money to the accrediting agency to do all their inspections and get you up to speed.
GWB on March 27, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Ya – that’s the key right there – show me da money.
Any fitness program at a commercial fitness center is likely far more intense than an “accredited” golf class. So the money is clearly what this is all about.

Different story for a place like the Blue Zoo, Canoe U, or that gray place – you don’t pay per class, and they have valid reasoning for students to be physically fit.

dentarthurdent on March 27, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Good question. He’s studying ENGINEERING.
Murf76 on March 27, 2013 at 1:08 PM

That’s even better – or worse I should say.
Really – engineering majors are not typically big athletes – or vice versa. Completely irrelevant academic requirement.

My son is getting ready to graduate with a double major – Business and Philosphy (Colo State U), and he took a golf class last fall. But I think in his case it was an elective and not required. he figured knowing the basics of golf would be good for a business career. I really don’t remember whether he had a PE requirement earlier in his 5 year college career.

dentarthurdent on March 27, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Righteous screed by Ace…excerpt:

” But does a Muslim learn that lesson from stomping on the name Jesus? No. How about an atheist? Again, no. How about a gay guy who hates “Bible Thumpers”? No. How about a feminist who hates the Patriarch and considers patriarchal religion to be the most important perpetuator of Male Privilege? Again, obviously not.

These folks don’t learn any of these Very Important Lessons from these actions. In fact, they learn the opposite lesson, don’t they? While the Christian is arguably learning to “not be so tribal in outlook,” or something, the other groups are learning the power of tribalism.

After all, their symbols aren’t being smashed. The symbols of their Detested Enemy are being smashed. Their Symbols are being elevated by contrast to the treatment of the Symbol of the Enemy.

This isn’t just about double-standards. It is about that, of course, but it isn’t just about that. It’s also about the bizarre assumptions encoded into the Non-Thinking among our supposed Cognitive Elite.

Because, obviously, if you wanted to teach all students something along these lines, you’d ask each to smash the symbols of something personally/psychologically important to himself or herself. How on earth is a committed Patriarchy-hating church-hating feminist learning about smashing her own symbols by trodding on the symbols of the Other? In that case, she learns no lesson at all, except “You’re awesome and people who disagree with you suck.”

What lesson is that? We do not need to teach people to have an overinflated opinion of themselves and to denigrate the beliefs of people not like them. People are already kind of pretty good at that already.

The bizarre assumption at work here seems to be that Only Christians are capable of tribal and/or irrational thought, and thus that only Christians need to be “educated” out of such thinking.

Not only is this ridiculous and bigoted on the face of it, but if only Christians need to be educated — if everyone else arrives at University without needing any further moral or intellectual instruction in How to Think — why are anyone except Christians permitted in these courses?

Remember the starting assumption: Only Christians need these sorts of lessons. That being the case then, no other students should gain credits from taking the course.

Of course the professor would object to such a rule because that would mean virtually no one would take his course and he’d be fired. So instead he teaches a course, supposedly offering “lessons,” but largely to people he’s already decided have no need of his “lessons.”…” – Ace

http://ace.mu.nu/

workingclass artist on March 27, 2013 at 1:22 PM

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dentarthurdent on March 27, 2013 at 1:04 PM

’88 myself.

Different story for a place like the Blue Zoo, Canoe U, or that gray place….

dentarthurdent on March 27, 2013 at 1:08 PM

I take it you mean Hudson High? :D

workingclass artist on March 27, 2013 at 1:22 PM

Very good rant.

GWB on March 27, 2013 at 1:27 PM

The way I read the “assignment” the professor should have used several different options, such as those Ed mentioned, and there should have been discussion on why people felt free to step or not step on any choice. There shouldn’t have been a punishment for any reaction. To me, it is a perfect description of indoctrination rather than learning.

Cindy Munford on March 27, 2013 at 1:30 PM

The kid should threaten to post a video to all sorts of Jihadi websites of himself stomping on a pic of Mohammed, and provide the name of the instructor who told him to do so.

You would see the college and the instructor backtracking so fast they would set a land speed record doing so.

Bishop on March 27, 2013 at 10:16 AM

Bishop, now I see why you’re held in such high regard here. In fact, this should be SOP every single time a school forces students to attack Christianity. It would stop in an instant.

HiJack on March 27, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Conspiracy theorists are always ringing the alarm about the coming re-education camps, as if we don’t already have them.

Akzed on March 27, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Good point.

Sterling Holobyte on March 27, 2013 at 1:37 PM

the professor was instructing from a position of critical theory. it can only be applied to European based beliefs and standards since it was only designed to attack them. it is unable to do so against non European based cultures. I stopped calling it hypocrisy and now just call it out as critical theory nonsense. Label it correctly and define it and we will win the battle of the minds.

19thgenamerican on March 27, 2013 at 1:38 PM

Akzed on March 27, 2013 at 10:14 AM

And that’s the truth.

Cindy Munford on March 27, 2013 at 1:40 PM

I will re-post on this thread too

the professor was instructing from a position of critical theory. it can only be applied to European based beliefs and standards since it was only designed to attack them. it is unable to do so against non European based cultures. I stopped calling it hypocrisy and now just call it out as critical theory nonsense. Label it correctly and define it and we will win the battle of the minds.

19thgenamerican on March 27, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Maybe another Beer Summit is in order. Won’t Obama honor the student for his courage? I know, I cracked myself up with that one.

Don’t forget that in all but a handful of states Common Core Standards are coming next year. They will finish the job the hippy professors started in the 60′s. Then it will be time to head for the caves and hills.

InTheBellyoftheBeast on March 27, 2013 at 1:44 PM

sorry thought this was a different thread, my bad

19thgenamerican on March 27, 2013 at 1:53 PM

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