New SarahPAC video: Palin will be a player in the 2014 midterms

posted at 4:41 pm on March 27, 2013 by Allahpundit

There’s going to come a point where Karl Rove concludes that his new group will do more to mobilize conservatives against the establishment Republicans it endorses than it will to mobilize centrist or casual GOP voters to support those candidates. With Palin, the Club for Growth, and conservative talk radio on the other side, he’ll likely have to stick to bluer states where there’s at least a chance that grassroots righties will give his candidates a pass in the primary on “electability” grounds. Maybe they’ll let him slide in, say, Colorado, Michigan, and Minnesota. Where else?

I’m curious to see if she takes a position on the Senate primary in Alaska. Joe Miller, whom she endorsed in 2010, might run; so might Sean Parnell, who served as her lieutenant governor and later succeeded her. That’s an easy call for Rove’s group given Miller’s tea-party cred but more complicated for her.


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I and many other conservatives on this site are tired of the Palin worshipers idiotically ranting about how no Republican is as good as Sarah.

First off, I’m not sure that we/they say no other Republican is as good as “Sarah.” But I do know the person(s) ranting are you and folks like Bradky and Marcus, who have no substantive reasons to oppose her, but continue to denigrate her and her supporters;, with the same old, tired, worn out cliches. It’s not even that you field NEW Talking Points, you just keep trotting out the same old ones. That’s ranting and that’s ON YOU.

These Palin cultists are pathetic and their behavior gives this site a bad name.

As usual you are 180 degrees out of it…it’s YOU who give the anti-Palin forces a bad name. Continual personal attacks on Palin, having nothing to do with policy. And in your case a an obsession with LYING about certain things, i.e., the 2013 CPAC Straw Poll.

You’ve gone beyond laughable to pathetic….and if this is the quality of the anti-Palin stalwarts; well then she has little to fear, should she decide to run.

JFKY on March 29, 2013 at 5:41 PM

While Sarah Palin never openly endorsed Senator Marco Rubio in his 2010 Senatorial campaign. The endorsement was discussed.

So again, while the endorsement never hit the airways, Palin can take credit for Rubio’s success

NoNails on March 29, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Hahaha. That about says it all.

Sarah Palin, stop taking credit for Marco Rubio’s victory!!

bluegill on March 29, 2013 at 5:42 PM

While Sarah Palin never openly endorsed Senator Marco Rubio in his 2010 Senatorial campaign. The endorsement was discussed.

So again, while the endorsement never hit the airways, Palin can take credit for Rubio’s success

NoNails on March 29, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Hahaha. That about says it all.

Sarah Palin, stop taking credit for Marco Rubio’s victory!!

bluegill on March 29, 2013 at 5:42 PM

You really are a punkass. You took all that was in the Shark Tank article and all you copy & paste is that? You are one deranged person.

NoNails on March 29, 2013 at 5:45 PM

bluegill on March 29, 2013 at 4:23 PM
It’s Good Friday, and many of those you call ‘worshipers’ are Christians. What say you limit your choice of designations for the weekend?
wolfsDad on March 29, 2013 at 4:48 PM

What an incredibly cynical, absurd thing to suggest. How dare you suggest that rightly calling Palin groupies “Palin worshipers” is in any way a reference to anyone’s faith. How dare you exploit other people’s faith as an excuse to try to shut up people who disagree with you. Guess what, wolf, most of those who know we can and should do better than Palin are also conservative Christians. Sorry, not all of us are willing to bow down and worship an incompetent politician like Palin.

bluegill on March 29, 2013 at 5:49 PM

SHOCK POLL: PALIN ATTEMPTED COMEBACK A FLOP
Sarah Palin Trounced in 2013 CPAC Straw Poll, Barely Besting “Undecided” and Topped by Even Uninvited Christie

Palin said to be fuming after learning results. All the ugly details below:
Rand Paul – 25%
Marco Rubio – 23%
Rick Santorum – 8%
Chris Christie – 7%
Paul Ryan – 6%
Scott Walker – 5%
Ben Carson – 4%
Ted Cruz – 4%
Bobby Jindal – 3%
Sarah Palin – 3%
Undecided 2%
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/16/rand-paul-washington-times-cpac-2013-straw-poll/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS
bluegill on March 17, 2013 at 7:26 AM

It has come to my attention that some Palinistas on this website want me to clarify the above poll results. Apparently, Sarah Palin didn’t come in last place. She only came in last place among the people who garnered 1% or more of the vote.
So, yes, Palinistas, hold your heads up high and know that, while Palin came in an abysmal 10th place and only got 3% of the vote at her big CPAC attempted comeback, at least she didn’t come in last, since apparently some others received votes, but not enough to be reported.
bluegill on March 29, 2013 at 4:26 AM

These poll results only confirm what we all already know. Sarah Palin is not even close to being conservatives’ top choice for president. It’s mostly only liberals want Sarah Palin to run.

I ask you Palin groupies again: why didn’t Sarah Palin get more support in the CPAC poll? What conspiracy theory are you going to hold up to explain away her embarrassing showing?

Why don’t any of you answer? Instead you want to insult me and all other conservatives who refuse to kneel down and kiss Palin’s feet.

bluegill on March 29, 2013 at 6:00 PM

bluegill on March 29, 2013 at 5:49 PM

Your “how dare yous” make me laugh.

Sarah Palin is going to be in the public eye for YEARS.

Aitch748 on March 29, 2013 at 6:00 PM

bluegill on March 29, 2013 at 6:00 PM

You mean Palin’s spectacular flameout when she tied with Bobby Jindal in a straw poll where 48% of the votes went to the two guys (out of TWENTY-THREE) who had been in the news the most (Rand Paul and Rubio)? And yet she still did better than more than half of the people on the poll? Yeah, Palin is just OVER. (*rolling my eyes*) That whole Liberty Pose thing just made her a laughingstock all over again. I guess we’ll have to start flocking to Rick Santorum, seeing as how he came in third. /sarc

But you just keep flogging the DEAD LAST!!!!!!!!!!!! thing, though, and screaming “HOW DARE YOU” at random posters while telling us how much you admire Palin even though you can’t stop claiming she’s a clown.

Aitch748 on March 29, 2013 at 6:13 PM

bluegill on March 29, 2013 at 5:49 PM

Excuse me. Didn’t realize that the word ‘worship’ was so very integral to your spiel. It wasn’t my intention to put a stop to being insulted, just a three day respite from accusations of what might be considered blasphemy.

Carry on.

wolfsDad on March 29, 2013 at 6:22 PM

Why don’t any of you answer?

bluegill on March 29, 2013 at 6:00 PM

That’s rich coming from someone who refuses to say what they would’ve done in the situation Palin was in while constantly criticizing her for stepping down. Why don’t you answer?

topdawg on March 29, 2013 at 6:31 PM

So in a meaningless poll Palin came in the middle of the pack, for a race she’s not even entered….and this PROVES she’s burned out…

You know who’s burned out, YOU ARE BLUEGILL…you just keep trotting this same poll time-after-time and expect THIS time we’ll all go “OOH-AH”.

Instead we just laugh and point at you…..

JFKY on March 29, 2013 at 6:33 PM

It’s mostly only liberals want Sarah Palin to run.
bluegill on March 29, 2013 at 6:00 PM

Remarkable how Sarah Palin has gotten under your skin and in your head. Even more striking about your fear and loathing, the monomaniacal attacks (as in the endless references to “worshippers”, an obvious projection of your own inverted worship, i.e., animus) is that it is based on Palin’s potential rather than any actual reality. She didn’t win in 2008, she didn’t run in 2012, and she shows no inclination to run in 2016. So there is really nothing going on here to account for the obsession, politically speaking. Palin does only ONE thing — attempt to elect conservatives. And she seems to be fairly good at it. That’s it.

This puts the whole issue into the realm of the personal.

You are so unnerved by her — by you own wild and bitter envy — you’ve driven yourself into the screaming margins such that you are forced to come up with inanities like the statement above — “it’s mostly only liberals want Sarah Palin to run.”

But you can’t stop.

rrpjr on March 29, 2013 at 7:39 PM

Bluegill needs a new drool cup. The mouth-breathing is audible from a distance. Pity being such a dullard low info type.

tom daschle concerned on March 29, 2013 at 7:42 PM

http://www.mediaite.com/online/sarah-palin-bizarrely-wrongly-takes-credit-for-marco-rubio/

Shocking Palin makes it all about herself.

TEPJoePa on March 29, 2013 at 12:09 AM

Not so fast. Here are the facts:

There seems to be a bit of drama going on regarding Sarah Palin’s new ‘Sarah PAC’ ad because of the video ad’s mention of Senator Marco Rubio. The ad points out several candidates that Palin supported over the past couple of election cycles, including a mention of Marco Rubio by Senator Ted Cruz of Texas. Cruz stated, “she (Palin) supported Marco Rubio.”

While Sarah Palin never openly endorsed Senator Marco Rubio in his 2010 Senatorial campaign. The endorsement was discussed.

In all due respect to my friends over at Sunshine State News, who stated that the video featured Sen. Ted Cruz saying that Palin endorsed Marco Rubio, is not just a stretch, but an outright untruth. Cruz never used the word endorsement, he said she supported Rubio. Heck, I never endorsed him, but I did support him- still do.

While Sunshine State News is correct in saying that Rubio’s grassroots appeal won him his Senate race, many around the country did not know of Marco Rubio early on, and Palin’s ability to excite the conservative base helped in many national races, including Rubio’s. Palin helped Rubio out every time she mentioned him during one of her stump speeches, or whenever she mentioned him during one of her TV appearances.

In April of 2010, Rubio was gaining considerable name recognition, but it wasn’t until a video that the Shark Tank recorded of Sarah Palin at the 2010 Southern Republican Leadership Convention in New Orleans, did Rubio’s national name ID really blow up.

In the video, Palin stated,” I love Marco Rubio.” She later added,” Marco, keep up the good work-call me, can I help?”

Upon recording the video, and before its release, an exuberant Marco Rubio was floored with the news of Palin’s kind words directed to him, quickly making Rubio realize the kind of “video gold” that was about to be release. The politically savvy Rubio quickly arranged for the messaging to be in place by the end of the weekend, in time for the video’s Monday release.

Just a few days later in The Villages, Florida, Sean Hannity brought his ‘Hannity’ Fox News show on the road, where Rubio was already booked as as one of the shows featured guests. Before the show aired, I spoke to Sean about what he thought about Palin’s video. With a look of disbelief, Hannity couldn’t believe what Palin said. ” She said what?!” As he started walking away, Sean turned back around and asked me again what Palin’s exact words to Rubio. I told Sean, and no sooner that Rubio appeared on stage with him, Hannity ask him about whether or not he was going to call Sarah Palin.

Rubio laughed and said he would be reaching out to her.

I think she is an important voice in the Conservative movement and the Republican Party, and I would love to have her support and her help…we’ll figure out how to get a hold of her.”-Senator Marco Rubio, Human Events

According to one of Rubio’s campaign consultants and confidants, several of the other consultants were against a Palin endorsement, because they felt she was too “Conservative”, and that her endorsement could hurt Rubio in his race against the once Conservative Republican-turned Independent Charlie Crist.

The Palin endorsement of Rubio never came, but later that year at the RNC event in Orlando, Florida, I had the opportunity to speak to Governor Palin. Governor Palin first acknowledge the video we shot in New Orleans, gawking that it got “a lot of views,” and TV time.

I then I asked her about what really happened with Rubio. Palin told me that she supported him and even offered a full and open endorsement, but Rubio’s campaign couldn’t seem to get it to happen, and never got back to her. She reiterated that she was still ready to do it, but was only waiting for the go-ahead from the campaign.

So again, while the endorsement never hit the airways, Palin can take credit for Rubio’s success, just as many other national conservatives can also do, regardless of whether they openly endorsed Rubio or not. Remember,Rubio’s close advisor and friend, former Florida Governor Jeb Bush never endorsed Rubio either.

http://shark-tank.net/2013/03/29/sarah-palins-2010-support-for-marco-rubio-endorsement-was-in-the-works/

NoNails on March 29, 2013 at 5:38 PM

I think this is important and should be on this page. Thanks so much for clearing that up.

bluefox on March 29, 2013 at 8:02 PM

You mean Palin’s spectacular flameout when she tied with Bobby Jindal in a straw poll where 48% of the votes went to the two guys (out of TWENTY-THREE) who had been in the news the most (Rand Paul and Rubio)?

LOL. The straw poll was taken within hours of her big big speech. One could argue you’d think she should have made more of a dent in Marco’s numbers, who had come and gone for days.

Marcus on March 29, 2013 at 8:32 PM

LOL. The straw poll was taken within hours of her big big speech

You mean that meaningless straw poll for an election 3.5 years from now, THAT poll which, apparently, means so much…at least to you and Bluegill. The poll of potential CANDIDATES, but not really declared candidates, that poll?

I think you and Bluegill need to meet at the Waffle House and just talk about how you hate Palin…or love macrame…it would give both of you something to do and a friend.

JFKY on March 29, 2013 at 8:36 PM

LOL. The straw poll was taken within hours of her big big speech. One could argue you’d think she should have made more of a dent in Marco’s numbers, who had come and gone for days.

Marcus on March 29, 2013 at 8:32 PM

The vast majority of the CPAC attendees who even bother to vote in the straw poll, don’t wait until the last day. They usually do it at their first opportunity. Not even 50% of the attendees vote in the straw poll because they know it’s worthless.

NoNails on March 29, 2013 at 8:56 PM

LOL. The straw poll was taken within hours of her big big speech. One could argue you’d think she should have made more of a dent in Marco’s numbers, who had come and gone for days.

Marcus on March 29, 2013 at 8:32 PM

LOL. Meanwhile Rick Perry, who also spoke, didn’t even make it past “undecided”.

ddrintn on March 29, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Dr. Ben Carson has been attacked and called vile names. He was asked about that and Rush had most of what his response was.

“Oh, this is a trick we learned in the third grade. If you can’t deal with people, you just start calling them names and insulting.”

Ben Carson said, “If you don’t have anything useful to say then you attack people. Intelligent people tend to talk about the facts. They don’t sit around and call each other names. That’s what you can find on a third grade playground.”

What Dr. Carson said is so applicable to bluegill and the other Palin haters that I had to post it.

bluefox on March 29, 2013 at 9:30 PM

Not even 50% of the attendees vote in the straw poll because they know it’s worthless.

NoNails on March 29, 2013 at 8:56 PM

It’s all they’ve got, so they flog it. Just like they flogged the “quitter” meme. They’ve never been able to critique her policies, ethics, executive ability. It’s all personal. Certain women can’t stand her accomplishments and vitality and other “assets”, likewise certain men can’t stand successful and assertive women.

rrpjr on March 29, 2013 at 9:32 PM

“I love Marco Rubio!” replied Palin. “Marco, keep up the good work. Call me.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WJlFJehq_Yo

Viator on March 29, 2013 at 9:34 PM

The vast majority of the CPAC attendees who even bother to vote in the straw poll, don’t wait until the last day. They usually do it at their first opportunity. Not even 50% of the attendees vote in the straw poll because they know it’s worthless.

NoNails on March 29, 2013 at 8:56 PM

That’s true. Another thing that I commented on a couple of weeks ago and it’s this Straw Poll and any other Poll for that matter:

The results of any Poll cannot be judged without knowing the questions that were asked. From what I’ve read, there were many questions asked, not just one. If the questions were posed so as to result in a certain outcome, then the results are suspect.

We saw how misleading the 2012 Election Polls were, LOL Personally, I don’t put any stock in Polls because most questions are designed on the outcome one wants:-)

bluefox on March 29, 2013 at 9:39 PM

I’m curious to see if she takes a position on the Senate primary in Alaska. Joe Miller, whom she endorsed in 2010, might run; so might Sean Parnell, who served as her lieutenant governor and later succeeded her.

I am curious to see if she will run for senate herself, from Alaska or somewhere else…

Sarah really needs a hands on job, and she did leave Fox, I thought maybe so she could be free to run for something. She had to leave the Governors office, but I think she would not have the same problems in the Senate just because the Gov. has to work day to day on so many issues and is an executive, a senator is a member.

Maybe there is a congressional seat for her.

Fleuries on March 29, 2013 at 9:48 PM

Brian Lerch just did another takedown on John Avlon’s hit piece.

What Avlon seems to be unwilling or incapable of understanding is that Governor Palin has never said no political figure should have a staff. She has always had people working for her. Her PAC does things that all other political action committees do- employ a handful of people, pay them for their services, raise money, and donate money to other candidates. Governor Palin has never claimed her PAC does otherwise. The point Governor Palin and others have been making about the consultant class is this- too many of them are only in it for the money and access to power, they have too much control over campaigns, and those that continue to lose over and over again keep on getting hired. Essentially, the political consulting business has become a racket. Does John Avlon want to dispute that? Maybe he’ll try, but he will look like a fool if he does.

Obviously, Avlon does not know the first thing about the people who work for SarahPAC or how Governor Palin operates. Not only that, he is not interested in knowing. Since I am not a part of Governor Palin’s inner circle, I am in now a way an authority on her staff, but I have spoken to some who have interacted with a few of them. First off, her staff is relatively small. I have been told that the people who work for her are some of the most professional, loyal, and dedicated people in politics. In fact, one of her staffers is a founder of this website who went off several years ago to work for her. That does not sound like a political mercenary or hired gun to me. Her staff is never off talking behind her back or pining for face time on TV. I can’t recall ever seeing a staffer of SarahPAC do a TV interview. In other words, the men and women who work for Governor Palin do it for the right reasons. They believe in her and her message. What Avlon can’t comprehend is this- her small staff is not there to control her or handle her. They are there to assist her in getting HER message out to the masses. That is the difference between her staff and most of the consultant class Governor Palin referred to in her CPAC speech.

Another topic where Avlon goes horribly wrong is when he says Governor Palin doles out all this money for consultants, but does not give very much to candidates. This demonstrates such a low level of intellectual depth that he should probably call the financial office at Yale and ask for a refund for that expensive BA he received from them. What he and others of his ilk don’t seem to grasp is that Governor Palin could give all of her endorsees $1, and it would still have a huge effect. The simple act of her endorsement is far more powerful than the $5,000 maximum she could give to a candidate. Her endorsement has an exponential effect on a candidate’s fundraising and far exceeds whatever her PAC donates. We’ve all heard the stories of how the dollars flooded in like a tidal wave once Governor Palin went public with an endorsement. But it goes beyond that. Once the endorsement becomes public, the phone in the candidate’s campaign office starts ringing off the hook with people calling asking what they can do to help. Anyone who knows anything about politics knows that it’s the grunt work of making GOTV phone calls, stuffing envelopes, and precinct walking that wins elections. I have volunteered for and given money to candidates due to her endorsement. I’m not alone.

Ask any conservative candidate running in a GOP primary in a red state or district and they can only have one endorsement. Whose do you think they will want? Then ask them what would they rather have- $5,000 from SarahPAC that may not even be revealed until after the election, or a Tweet from Governor Palin giving her endorsement? Her endorsement is like the Good Housekeeping seal of approval. It allows a candidate to go out there to GOP voters and say, hey, I’ve taken the Pepsi Challenge and I’m legit. I know how Ted Cruz, Nikki Haley, Deb Fischer and others would respond. What would John Avlon say?

Maybe the most egregious point Avlon made, and that’s saying something, is Governor Palin is attempting to raise all this money so she can live the high life and travel in style. This is total garbage, and anyone who has seen Governor Palin in action knows this. Myself and others have witnessed this. At the big premiere of The Undefeated in Pella, the Gov and Todd rented a red Ford SUV and drove themselves from Des Moines to Pella. Myself and a couple others went out to Kansas City last summer for the Steelman for Senate rally. She was there with Todd, Willow, and Piper. They had the family RV, and a black SUV was rented for her 2 or 3 staffers that were there assisting her. Many others have reported running into her at the airport and being on her commercial flight after she did an event. Not exactly champagne and caviar living, huh, John?

http://conservatives4palin.com/2013/03/no-labels-smear-merchant-at-it-again.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

NoNails on March 29, 2013 at 10:17 PM

Palin is focused on 2014. I don’t know why so many people try to look past 2014 to talk about why she shouldn’t run in 2016. For you PDSers, please explain why her efforts to help Conservatives get elected in 2014 is such a bad thing. And don’t even try to say she will hurt the candidates. History says otherwise.

For some of you, anything short of Palin retreating to an igloo in the Alaska tundra seems to give you the vapors. She’s here and she’s going to make a difference and she’s going to make a difference for a long time. Get over it.

NoNails on March 29, 2013 at 10:23 PM

NoNails on March 29, 2013 at 10:17 PM

Thanks for the links and comments. They help explain some of the opposition toward her.

bluefox on March 29, 2013 at 11:31 PM

While Sarah Palin never openly endorsed Senator Marco Rubio in his 2010 Senatorial campaign. The endorsement was discussed.

So again, while the endorsement never hit the airways, Palin can take credit for Rubio’s success
NoNails on March 29, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Hahaha. That about says it all.
Sarah Palin, stop taking credit for Marco Rubio’s victory!!
bluegill on March 29, 2013 at 5:42 PM

Sarah Palin needs to be reminded that she isn’t the center of the conservative political universe.

bluegill on March 29, 2013 at 11:59 PM

NoNails on March 29, 2013 at 10:17 PM

It is really bad form to spam post entire articles like that. I believe you could be in violation of HotAir commenting rules.

I wish you Palin worshipers could be a little more respectful of this community, instead of just going off on whomever dares criticize your idol Sarah.

If you want to post links to articles on your Palin fan pages, then fine. But please limit your excerpts to only a few paragraphs.

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 12:03 AM

rrpjr on March 29, 2013 at 7:39 PM

No, she is again leading on her worshipers, making them think she is running. Then these dolts will only support her and will trash all other Republicans. Sarah Palin also works to foster division among conservatives, and she openly advocated prolonging last year’s primary season, even though it was harmful to the eventual nominee, even suggesting she would be open to throwing her hat in the ring at a hypothetical brokered convention. She is a terrible, inarticulate spokesperson for conservatives, and liberals love holding her up as the face of the Republican Party.

I’m just glad that she flopped in CPAC poll and continues to poll badly, thereby making it clear that she is not anywhere close to being the conservative (nor anyone but liberals’) top choice for GOP nominee.

And now she is trying to take credit for Rand Paul’s and Marco Rubio’s successes? How tacky. She puts out these “look how great *I* am” videos, where she claims way more credit than she is entitled. I just wonder where all that money is going.

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 12:13 AM

You are not gonna get the last word, fishy…and you’ll never live down your blind support for mittens and your disdain for every other candidate.

gracie on March 30, 2013 at 1:05 AM

Please, people. It can’t be all that healthy to handle fish that suffer from ick. You could suffer ill health as a result. That fish’s diseased mind could be contageous, and you wouldn’t want that, would you?

John Hitchcock on March 30, 2013 at 1:12 AM

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 12:13 AM

As I said, it’s personal. It’s why you can’t stop. Her energy, her cheer, her cowboy boots, her t*ts under tight blouses, maybe the total package — it doesn’t matter. No one could go on like this so monotonously without it being personal. You’re the inverted “worshipper.” How many times in this thread have you used the term? It’s pure projection. You worship hating her.

rrpjr on March 30, 2013 at 1:13 AM

If you want to post links to articles on your Palin fan pages, then fine. But please limit your excerpts to only a few paragraphs.

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 12:03 AM

Who appointed you message board police? Go stuff it. I’ll post what I like.
bluegill on August 19, 2012 at 11:14 PM

bluefox on March 30, 2013 at 1:42 AM

rrpjr on March 30, 2013 at 1:13 AM

It is personal because I care deeply about my country. The Sarah Palin worship does more harm than good. I will continue to speak my mind about what I think is best for the country.

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 1:49 AM

Welcome to Disturbia:

No, she is again leading on her worshipers
bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 12:13 AM

I wish you Palin worshipers
bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 12:03 AM

How dare you suggest that rightly calling Palin groupies “Palin worshipers”…

Sorry, not all of us are willing to bow down and worship an incompetent politician like Palin.
bluegill on March 29, 2013 at 5:49 PM

I and many other conservatives on this site are tired of the Palin worshipers

What embarrassing slobber from a Palin worshiper.
The Palin worshipers…
bluegill on March 29, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Quit trying to brand anyone who refuses to bow down and worship Sarah Palin a troll.
bluegill on March 28, 2013 at 7:58 PM

When you listen to her worshipers on this website…

It is as if she and her worshipers believe everything is about her.
bluegill on March 29, 2013 at 12:38 AM

Disappointing to see all the focus from Palin worshipers…

Palin worshipers are an embarrassment.
bluegill on March 28, 2013 at 9:56 PM

The Sarah Palin worship does more harm than good.
bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 1:49 AM

That’s only two pages of one thread.

rrpjr on March 30, 2013 at 1:53 AM

I will continue to speak my mind about what I think is best for the country.

oh, please. you spew your contempt to get people’s attention. SP doesn’t have to a say a word and the whole world turns and says “WOW” in unison. you’ve got nothing going for you and you know it…even mittens left you at the altar.

gracie on March 30, 2013 at 1:58 AM

That’s only two pages of one thread.
rrpjr on March 30, 2013 at 1:53 AM

If you don’t like being identified as Palin worshipers, then maybe you shouldn’t worship at the altar of St. Palin the Victimized.

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 3:45 AM

oh, please. you spew your contempt to get people’s attention. SP doesn’t have to a say a word and the whole world turns and says “WOW” in unison. you’ve got nothing going for you and you know it…even mittens left you at the altar.
gracie on March 30, 2013 at 1:58 AM

I hope to ween you people off the Sarah Palin worship. If I can touch just one Palin worshiper and get them to let go of the worship, then I will be happy. Look, you don’t have to stop liking Palin. Heck, I admire Palin. But we need to let go of the Palin obsession. Palin’s place is not as a presidential candidate. It is not as the face of the Republican Party nor as the spokesperson for conservatism. No, she is better for get-out-the-vote efforts. Maybe she can also do her little endorsing thing. And if she retires, that’s great too. But she needs to learn that not everything is about her. She tries to stir up division among conservatives; it’s part of her shtick. She needs to stop that. She also needs to brush up on the issues and get a vocal coach.

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 3:54 AM

Palin endorsing conservative candidates is bad for the country???

You’re a joke, bluegill.

Aitch748 on March 30, 2013 at 6:05 AM

Palin endorsing conservative candidates is bad for the country???
You’re a joke, bluegill.
Aitch748 on March 30, 2013 at 6:05 AM

At least quote me accurately. I said the Palin worship is bad.

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 6:20 AM

http://shark-tank.net/2013/03/29/sarah-palins-2010-support-for-marco-rubio-endorsement-was-in-the-works/

NoNails on March 29, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Yeap that is pretty much how I remember it going down and it alerted me at the time that Rubio wasn’t the “tea party conservative” people thought he was. His “consultants” were the GOPE type believing the MSM narrative.

unseen on March 30, 2013 at 6:36 AM

You’re not going to nag us into turning on Palin.

This thing you have about “Palin worship” is just your jealousy over the attention that Palin gets when she shows up and gives a speech. If ever the phrase “you’re just jealous” fit anybody, it fits you like a glove. People get excited when she shows up and says what most of us are thinking and you don’t like it. She doesn’t need to run for office, and we don’t care that she doesn’t have a radio-announcer voice.

Palin is going to be around for years, and as long as she’s “one of us,” what you keep calling “Palin worship” will also be around. You might as well get used to it.

Aitch748 on March 30, 2013 at 6:37 AM

For you PDSers, please explain why her efforts to help Conservatives get elected in 2014 is such a bad thing. And don’t even try to say she will hurt the candidates. History says otherwise.

For some of you, anything short of Palin retreating to an igloo in the Alaska tundra seems to give you the vapors. She’s here and she’s going to make a difference and she’s going to make a difference for a long time. Get over it.

NoNails on March 29, 2013 at 10:23 PM

the PDSer’s think her being a kingmaker will raise her clout and standing within voters mind and set her up for a 2016 run. The PDSer’s aim since 2008 is to lower her voice and push her off the stage because their guys can’t compete with her. It’s like how tiger woods made all the other golfers look like amatuers. So if they can’t compete they have to drive her from field.

unseen on March 30, 2013 at 7:03 AM

and she openly advocated prolonging last year’s primary season, even though it was harmful to the eventual nominee,

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 12:13 AM

This is what it boils down down too; a hag being jealous of Palin and anger that St. Mittens the Fantastic didn’t win.

topdawg on March 30, 2013 at 7:46 AM

topdawg on March 30, 2013 at 7:46 AM

I don’t know Bluegill’s posts seem to me more about simply repeating keywords over and over. Classic pys-ops.

unseen on March 30, 2013 at 8:09 AM

No, she is again leading on her worshipers, making them think she is running. Then these dolts will only support her and will trash all other Republicans. Sarah Palin also works to foster division among conservatives, and she openly advocated prolonging last year’s primary season, even though it was harmful to the eventual nominee, even suggesting she would be open to throwing her hat in the ring at a hypothetical brokered convention. She is a terrible, inarticulate spokesperson for conservatives, and liberals love holding her up as the face of the Republican Party.

I’m just glad that she flopped in CPAC poll and continues to poll badly, thereby making it clear that she is not anywhere close to being the conservative (nor anyone but liberals’) top choice for GOP nominee.

And now she is trying to take credit for Rand Paul’s and Marco Rubio’s successes? How tacky. She puts out these “look how great *I* am” videos, where she claims way more credit than she is entitled. I just wonder where all that money is going.

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 12:13 AM

First off, Palin hasn’t once intimated that she has any interest in running in 2016. She has made it clear that her focus is on 2014.

Second, you seem to ignore the facts as presented in the Shark Tank article. That in itself shows just how dishonest you are.

Third, as a Kentuckian, I can tell you that Palin’s endorsement of Rand Paul was absolutely the vehicle that drove him to victory. To suggest otherwise is either a sign of your ignorance or a sign of your dishonesty. Based on your postings, I suspect it’s the latter.

If you don’t like being identified as Palin worshipers, then maybe you shouldn’t worship at the altar of St. Palin the Victimized.

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 3:45 AM

I DO NOT worship Sarah Palin. I worship but one, my Lord and Savior. I stand with Sarah Palin because she stands with me. I support Sarah Palin because she speaks for me. Maybe that’s too complex for you to understand. For me, she doesn’t have to be perfect. Sometimes, her voice gets a little high-pitched, but her words are music to my ears. Sometimes, she misspeaks, just as everyone does. Sometimes, I wish she could be a little more specific on her position on certain issues, but I can accept that she’ll be more specific when the time is right.

Face it. You’re one sick puppy who is eaten up with PDS. There’s a cure for that, but you may have already reached stage 4, since you have allowed for it to metastasize throughout your very core.

NoNails on March 30, 2013 at 8:11 AM

Excellent video.

Sarah Palin And The GOP Boat-Rockers Alliance

In ‘Loaded for Bear’ Governor Palin endorses something CHQ Chairman Richard Viguerie has been saying for a long time: YOU are the leaders you have been waiting for.

john.frank on March 30, 2013 at 10:10 AM

Sarah Palin needs to be reminded that she isn’t the center of the conservative political universe.

bluegill on March 29, 2013 at 11:59 PM

To your chagrin, she actually is. She’s not the center of Republican politics, but as far as the real conservative political universe, she’s just about right smack dab in the center of it.

NoNails on March 30, 2013 at 10:14 AM

In response to all the attacks by the PDS crowd this week:

Time for a C4P Money Bomb for SarahPAC

john.frank on March 30, 2013 at 10:46 AM

More.

I hope to ween you people off the Sarah Palin worship.
If I can touch just one Palin worshiper and get them to let go of the worship, then I will be happy.
we need to let go of the Palin obsession.
bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 3:54 AM

I said the Palin worship is bad.
bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 6:20 AM

If you don’t like being identified as Palin worshipers
bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 3:45 AM

rrpjr on March 30, 2013 at 10:50 AM

Face it. You’re one sick puppy who is eaten up with PDS. There’s a cure for that, but you may have already reached stage 4, since you have allowed for it to metastasize throughout your very core.
NoNails on March 30, 2013 at 8:11 AM

You and I are probably a lot alike. Neither one of us has any patience for PDSers. Like you, I admire Palin. Many conservatives do. But is she the person we want as the face of conservatism or the nominee of our party? Um, not us much. She’s a fine person, though, who can do a lot of good, if only she’d stop trying to foster resentment among conservatives.

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Not us much = not so much

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 11:06 AM

If You’re Taking Flak, You’re Over the Target

by Whitney Pitcher

A lot has already been written about the John Avlon piece at the Daily Beast that casts Governor Palin as some kind of hypocritical charlatan who exploits donors to her PAC. I don’t want to re-hash what has already been said too much. Please just read here, here, here, and here.

I do want to make a few points though. Please excuse this atypical format. I’m writing after a long work day combined with overindulgence in caffeine. If it’s not too violence inciting, I just want to make a few bullet points. I’m italicizing my sarcasm to avoid confusion:

* John Avlon is the co-founder of No Labels, an organization that is supposedly centrist, but stands for nothing in particular. This No Labels organization is classified as a 501c4, which is not required to itemize their disbursements nor reveal their donors. While Avalon is decrying SarahPAC’s FEC report, he himself doesn’t even have to report anything specific. No labels, no transparency. (By the way, Avlon’s wife is Margaret Hoover, former staffer in the Bush White House and in Bush’s 2004 campaign, meaning she worked with the likes of Steve Schmidt and Nicolle Wallace).

http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com/

unseen on March 30, 2013 at 11:07 AM

I just want to say, I don’t hate you mouf-breathin’ heathenish clown-following, unserious Palin-worshipping idolators. I don’t hate you; I love you, really, I do…I just want you retarded inbred-cretins to:
1) STFU; or
2) See the Light, that was truly the Great Willard Mitt Romney; and profess your error in not fully supporting him.

Unless or until you follow 1) or 2) I shall just pronounce Anathema upon you and cast you from the One True Church of Bluegill Conservatism.

You have been warned.

JFKY on March 30, 2013 at 11:07 AM

*Avlon also mentions that Governor Palin spent a chunk of change on postage for direct mailings. What’s that? A political figure sends out direct mailers. That never happens! It’s amazing that Governor Palin employed a government agency like the post office as a “consultant”! Shouldn’t the Left be praising the Governor for being so generous to an agency that is essentially bankrupt? Or are they saying that Governor Palin should hand deliver her mailings by snowmachine? This piece at RedState, written by a fellow Illinois conservative, goes into more details on specifics. Yes, I’m recommending a piece at RedState. They’re few and far between, but there are some good ones.

unseen on March 30, 2013 at 11:09 AM

if only she’d stop trying to foster resentment among conservatives.

The resentment seems to flow from YOU, not us….

JFKY on March 30, 2013 at 11:10 AM

I just want to say, I don’t hate you mouf-breathin’ heathenish clown-following, unserious Palin-worshipping idolators. I don’t hate you; I love you, really, I do…I just want you retarded inbred-cretins to:
1) STFU; or
2) See the Light, that was truly the Great Willard Mitt Romney; and profess your error in not fully supporting him.
Unless or until you follow 1) or 2) I shall just pronounce Anathema upon you and cast you from the One True Church of Bluegill Conservatism.
You have been warned.
JFKY on March 30, 2013 at 11:07 AM

I love you. Couldn’t have said it better myself. I want that whole passage enshrined.

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 11:10 AM

*Avlon also whines about the return on investment of Palin’s endorsements and the amount of overhead, but he fails to mention the limits that PACs have on giving. He’d rather take advantage of the fact that casual readers won’t know the FEC caps on giving. The maximum amount a PAC can give is $5,000 per election (general and primary are counted separately). Even if the Governor devoted one-third of her spending to candidates, she would have to give the maximum to both the primary and general elections to over 150 candidates, but even then I suppose she would be criticized for hiring any staff and not supporting 450 candidates. She should have endorsed every GOP Congressional candidate! However, Palin is a force multiplier (h/t RefudiateGOPe). When Governor Palin gives an endorsement, the phone rings off the hook for those candidates. Perhaps we should just ask Senator Dewhurst how effective Governor Palin’s endorsement? No?

unseen on March 30, 2013 at 11:10 AM

* A final point. Social media is not the absolute barometer of what we loosely call the “conservative movement”, but it is a barometer. People who decried this news are the same ones who tongue lashed conservatives who were critical of Romney in 2012. They certainly didn’t have a problem when news came out weeks before the 2012 general election that Governor Romney’s campaign invested over a hundred million dollars in consulting firms owned by his senior staffers and he lost! No circular firing squads, they say! Unless they’re the ones who get to hold the gun. This is par for the course in the “conservative movement” though. When Governor Palin worked her butt off to try to get McCain elected generating more excitement in the GOP than had been there in over 25 years, she ultimately got blamed for the loss. When Governor Walker was getting hit with a recall, the GOP and “conservative movement” was eager to help, but when Governor Palin got inundated with dozens of frivolous ethics complaints, crickets. When Governor Palin was cast as accomplice to murder in Tucson, there were conservative bloggers and some media personality who defended her, yet again, overwhelming crickets from her own party machinery. However, when Ann Romney was told “she never worked a day in her life”, you couldn’t get Mr.overgrown college Republican and the RNC to calm down in demanding an apology. Today, you certainly didn’t hear outrage when Marco Golden Boy spent over 90K of his PAC donors’ money on political consultants in just the month of February alone, did you?

I’m tired of this. Tired of the lies. Tired of the finger pointing and intellectual dishonesty. Tired of the attacks. However, as the World War II saying goes, “if you’re taking flak, you’re over the target”, which is good if you’re loaded for bear

http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com/

unseen on March 30, 2013 at 11:12 AM

views of this video on youttube now at 272,000

#whatpalindoes for the conservative movement…..paging Tucker the sexist pig.

unseen on March 30, 2013 at 11:16 AM

I love you. Couldn’t have said it better myself. I want that whole passage enshrined.

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 11:10 AM

By all means, “enshrine it” use it as often as you like…as long as you give proper accreditation/citation….

I look forward to your repeated use of my statement/slur…but in the immortal words of Inago Montoya “I don’t think that means what you think it does.

JFKY on March 30, 2013 at 11:19 AM

By all means, “enshrine it” use it as often as you like…as long as you give proper accreditation/citation….

I look forward to your repeated use of my statement/slur…but in the immortal words of Inago Montoya “I don’t think that means what you think it does.“

JFKY on March 30, 2013 at 11:19 AM

I think she missed your invisible /sarc sign.

NoNails on March 30, 2013 at 11:40 AM

You and I are probably a lot alike. Neither one of us has any patience for PDSers. Like you, I admire Palin. Many conservatives do. But is she the person we want as the face of conservatism or the nominee of our party? Um, not us much. She’s a fine person, though, who can do a lot of good, if only she’d stop trying to foster resentment among conservatives.

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 11:03 AM

No, we are definitely nothing alike. You prove yourself to be a schizoid freak on every Palin-related thread. I want people to judge Palin on reality, not the caricature the left and the GOPe paint of her. Most people who “hate” her would be shocked to know that none of her positions on the issues are extreme. A lot of them would be surprised to learn that she didn’t say she could see Russia from her porch. Some of them would be surprised to learn that the meme,”she couldn’t name a book or newspaper she reads” is a false meme. And some would be surprised to learn that the meme, “She didn’t know the founding fathers” is a lie also(that includes you). Beck asked her who her favorite was. She said all of them because it was a stupid question, but when pressed, she named Washington and explained why. Other than Beck, who sits around and thinks about their favorite founding father? Favorite color? Yeah. Favorite founding father? Silly.

She doesn’t foster resentment among conservatives. She highlights the fact that many of our problems are the result of the incestuous relationships of the Permanent Political Class. That’s a good thing, no matter how you twist it to rationalize your obsession with her.

NoNails on March 30, 2013 at 11:55 AM

If you don’t like being identified as Palin worshipers…
bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 3:45 AM

I couldn’t care less. I’m a worshipalooza. Who cares.

This is about envy. Palin engenders passion by invoking and evangelizing on subjects what no one else will dare confront.

The natural admiration and passion this stirs is deeply threatening. Beyond that, or beneath it, is the simple, psychotic personal envy of her attributes.

The “worship” mantra is just cheap mini-Leftist wordplay to shame and extinguish the passion she inspires but which others — like Romney and his supporters — can’t beg, buy or steal.

Politics is fun because it’s such a perfect spectrum of human behavior in extremis and out there for all to see.

rrpjr on March 30, 2013 at 12:22 PM

I love you. Couldn’t have said it better myself. I want that whole passage enshrined.

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 11:10 AM

The thing is, you couldn’t have said it better. As in, not having any such option. You ostensibly (and in all likelihood) lack the vocabulary, wit, and conceptual flexibility (the use of ‘Anathema’ was quite clever) to create a post that is even mildly entertaining or challenging.

unseen & john.frank, thanks for the links.

wolfsDad on March 30, 2013 at 12:57 PM

I love how Sarah lives rent free 24/7 in Bluegills mind ….
it is really sad …. JFKY – that was wonderful … love it….

conservative tarheel on March 30, 2013 at 3:55 PM

How well would Sarah Palin as potential 2016 nominee do in a very red state like Alaska? Palin may not be considered a serious candidate, but surely Alaskans want her to run and would vote for her, right? Lets examine the facts:

It’s not a match up likely to occur but Clinton would destroy Sarah Palin in a hypothetical match up in the state, 53/37, including a 62/25 lead with independents. There’s no appetite among Alaskans for Palin 2016- only 16% think she should run to 78% who think she should not, and even among Republicans just 18% would like to see her make a bid.

To put into perspective just how poorly thought of Palin is in Alaska now, consider this: Congress has an 8% favorability rating in the state. But asked whether they have a higher opinion of Congress or Palin, Alaskans pick Congress by a 50/34 margin.

“Alaskans are pretty clearly done with Sarah Palin,” said Dean Debnam, President of Public Policy Polling. “They wouldn’t support her for the Senate, they wouldn’t support her for President, and they have an ever lower opinion of her than they do of Congress.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2013/02/clinton-potentially-competitive-in-alaska.html

Wow, it looks like Sarah Palin’s viability as a candidate has tanked. Whoever says that Sarah Palin is not and should not be made the face of the Republican Party nor the GOP nominee is right.

Palin worshipers, you need this dose of reality. I know my message is reaching you. It is good that you learn this now so that you don’t continue your Palin-worshiping ways into the 2016 primary season.

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 6:37 PM

No last word for you Bluegill….PPP tends to be the DEMOCRATIC pollster…in my home state, which went double digits for Romney, Hillary is a potential “winner” too…doesn’t mean she will be.

Say who were the front runners in 2008 at this time, BG?

Besides invective, the only thing you have is fairly meaningless polling data…the CPAC straw poll and the PPP poll from 3.5 years out from the elction…

So you are simply focusing on the elusive “Elect-ability”…Say didn’t that Severely Conservative Mitt Romney have that, too? How’d that go…

So basically you’ve got nothing, but, as was said above, an animus against Palin…I don’t know did your Significant Other call out her name during coitus…do you think you could never rock a T-shirt or hi heels like her?

But in any event, you have nothing SUBSTANTIVE. I understand, if I disagree with Pumice or Honda or Stoic Patriot, about there POTUS choices. But you, you don’t talk about Palin’s ISSUES or where you disagree. You just seemingly HATE her…it’s not even Politics, it’s PERSONAL with you. Tell me where Palin is WRONG, not where she’s clownish…tell me where her positions are unsound, not that she wears tight t-shirts…..UNTIL, you can do that, expect contumely, derision, and scant regard.

JFKY on March 30, 2013 at 6:49 PM

JFKY on March 30, 2013 at 6:49 PM

Like many conservatives, we agree with Palin on most issues, but we think she is absolutely the wrong person to promote them as the party’s nominee or as any kind of spokesperson or representative of the Right. Think of it this way: do many Democrats agree with Cynthia McKinney ( http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynthia_McKinney ) on the issues? Probably. Would McKinney do well in a national election? No. Would most Democrats want Cynthia to run for pres, even if they agree with her on many issues? No. Who would want Cynthia to be the Dems’ presidential nominee? Republicans. Sarah Palin is like the Republican Cynthia McKinney in this way.

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 7:05 PM

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 6:37 PM

What a pity. You try so hard too! “Palin worship” will proceed strong and undeterred. But thanks for doing your job in strengthening it. What you miss — and it’s a beauty of a miss — is that Palin’s meaning and purpose are only confirmed by these kinds of fanatical litanies. In your replication of the Leftist modes, you’re declaring what the threat is. You couldn’t do a better job of reaffirming Palin’s relevance. For you couldn’t possibly keep up the monomania if Palin were as unimportant as you think. Good work.

What you also can’t see, being so afflicted with envy, is that it isn’t really about Palin as much as the message. Palin simply represents a point of view, an insight or incision into the malignant lesion of Establishment GOP corruption, and a voice for an America the Republican party has abandoned, that no one else has had the nerve or will to claim. It is only personal in the sense of communion many feel for the person who lays claim to the message with plainspoken conviction. People, conservatives, understand her grasp not only of the nature of the Left but the inherent virtues of conservatism. So keep flailing away.

rrpjr on March 30, 2013 at 7:15 PM

Here, on this page, it came into focus. The reason the ichthyic one repeats, for instance, ‘worship’ is the inability to come up with a synonym. Similarly, the repeated citation of the CPAC poll and various other bits of monotony are due to a lack of ability to create anything in the way of new material. We may be guilty of picking on someone of distinctly inferior intellectual ability.

My apologies, Hipster. Your cathartic options are obviously limited.

wolfsDad on March 30, 2013 at 7:41 PM

wolfsDad on March 30, 2013 at 7:41 PM

I think the overuse of the word “worship” is by design. It’s an imitation of the Left — the repetitive semantic cudgel. RINOs are a political creature in a strange state of thrall to leftism – sort of like Stockholm Syndrome victims.

rrpjr on March 30, 2013 at 7:49 PM

Like many conservatives, we agree with Palin on most issues, but we think she is absolutely the wrong person to promote them as the party’s nominee or as any kind of spokesperson or representative of the Right.

“We” are you a King/Queen or just listening tot he voices in your head…”No I’m not, Yes, she is. Both of you SHUT-UP!”

JFKY on March 30, 2013 at 7:58 PM

rrpjr on March 30, 2013 at 7:49 PM

Perhaps, but take for instance, the JFKY bit above. It went completely overhead. When someone responds to an insult by saying “I love you”, there are ample grounds to question the perspicacity of the respondent.

wolfsDad on March 30, 2013 at 8:27 PM

wolfsDad on March 30, 2013 at 8:27 PM

You absolutely could be right. The use of the word just seemed calculatedly repetitive to me.

rrpjr on March 30, 2013 at 8:33 PM

wolfsDad on March 30, 2013 at 8:27 PM
You absolutely could be right. The use of the word just seemed calculatedly repetitive to me.
rrpjr on March 30, 2013 at 8:33 PM

I just don’t know of a more apt word to use in this situation.

In the last year I noticed that the people who were the most critical of Romney after he got the nomination and who should’ve been on our side in promoting unity in the effort to defeat Obama were Palin worshipers. Palin attracts fervent support from the most embarrassing, anti-intellectual, doofus sliver of our party. Palin worshipers are trash, basically.

Why don’t you people fawn over someone like Ted Cruz? At least he an impressive and capable person. That I could respect and understand. This Palin nonsense is a joke. You people are like blind followers and fanatics of Justin Bieber.

You Palin cultists are so wrapped up in this fantasy image of Palin and her personality that you can’t even recognized that she’s crap. There are better conservatives out there!! Ted Cruz. Hint, hint. Ted Cruz. Hint, hint. Do I have to make it more clear? Anyone but Palin! I understand that Cruz says nice things about Palin. He’s no fool and wants support from the likes of you. But at least he is an articulate and effective advocate of conservative ideals. Palin is not. Or Rand Paul. I could see being huge fans of him. He’s another impressive guy. Even Chris Christie, whom I hate, is not a walking cartoonish joke like Palin. The bottom line is that we can do better than Palin. You all should aim a little higher when selecting your heroes.

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 9:14 PM

The “worship” mantra is just cheap mini-Leftist wordplay to shame and extinguish the passion she inspires but which others — like Romney and his supporters — can’t beg, buy or steal.

rrpjr on March 30, 2013 at 12:22 PM

BINGO.

ddrintn on March 30, 2013 at 9:16 PM

I just don’t know of a more apt word to use in this situation.

In the last year I noticed that the people who were the most critical of Romney after he got the nomination and who should’ve been on our side in promoting unity in the effort to defeat Obama were Palin worshipers.

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 9:14 PM

No, in the last year you noticed that Romney has the charisma of a can of sardines, and then you resent that Palin actually IS charismatic.

ddrintn on March 30, 2013 at 9:18 PM

You Palin cultists are so wrapped up in this fantasy image of Palin and her personality that you can’t even recognized that she’s crap. There are better conservatives out there!!

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 9:14 PM

You’re more obsessed than any “Palin cultist” could possibly be. How many comments have you made in this thread? A hundred or two? You’re batty. If Cruz is all that and an order of fries, it’ll become apparent.

ddrintn on March 30, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Why don’t you people fawn over someone like Ted Cruz? At least he an impressive and capable person.

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 9:14 PM

By the way, what is that to you? On the one hand, you say that “Palin cultists” make up only a tiny sliver of the electorate. On the other, they must be fairly significant otherwise you wouldn’t be going on like some psycho mom trying to get her son to dump the pretty girl and instead take up with that very nice 450 lb daughter of her friend at the beauty parlor.

ddrintn on March 30, 2013 at 9:26 PM

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 9:14 PM

your hatred of Sarah is personal, meant to be demeaning. You come on this site and try to rape her reputation on an hourly basis.

you have no shame. you have no credibility. its universal. yet you persist.

the moderators should ban you, if only to preserve what sanity is left.

renalin on March 30, 2013 at 9:32 PM

If Cruz is all that and an order of fries, it’ll become apparent.
ddrintn on March 30, 2013 at 9:22 PM

What is already apparent is that Palin isn’t fit to shine Cruz’s shoes. You Palin worshipers know it, so you try to say that Cruz’ success is all thanks to Palin. It’s insulting and laughable.

No one but her worshipers takes Palin seriously anymore. She’s a goofy, gimmicky, cartoonish attention-craver who stumbled badly during the 2008 campaign, quit her job as governor before even finishing one term, and then got fired from Fox News. Now she tries to get attention by picking fights with Karl Rove and claiming credit for successful Republicans like Rubio, when she has no business claiming credit for such things.

I have faith that eventually even people like ddrintn, who reportedly got a tattoo that read “Palin 2012″, will see the light and move on to better choices. And then they will come to me and say, “bluegill, you were right. I’m sorry. Now let’s go win an election.” And I won’t gloat nor say I told you so. I will take your hands and move forward toward electoral victory!

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 9:36 PM

the moderators should ban you, if only to preserve what sanity is left.
renalin on March 30, 2013 at 9:32 PM

I believe there has to be counterbalance to the Palin worship. So I provide it as best I can.

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 9:37 PM

What is already apparent is that Palin isn’t fit to shine Cruz’s shoes.

To you. Toi a lot of us, it was always apparent that, for example, Romney was never fit to carry Palin’s jogging shoes.

You Palin worshipers know it, so you try to say that Cruz’ success is all thanks to Palin.

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Not all, but a large measure of it is.

ddrintn on March 30, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Now she tries to get attention by picking fights with Karl Rove…

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 9:36 PM

She doesn’t have to “try” to get attention, sweetie. She just…gets it. You see, that’s the difference between Palin and all the rest right now.

ddrintn on March 30, 2013 at 9:41 PM

I have faith that eventually even people like ddrintn, who reportedly got a tattoo that read “Palin 2012″,

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Who “reported” that? I don’t have any tattoos at all.

ddrintn on March 30, 2013 at 9:45 PM

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Reaffirming Palin’s threat and relevance on a comment by comment basis.

rrpjr on March 30, 2013 at 9:58 PM

I just don’t know of a more apt word to use in this situation.

You don’t know of another word to use.

…anti-intellectual, doofus sliver of our party. Palin worshipers are trash, basically.

…she’s crap.

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Listen. Then tell me that you can make the case that the fish is actually, intellectually in any way a worthy opponent.

wolfsDad on March 30, 2013 at 10:01 PM

Poll about Palin’s viability as a candidate in Alaska:
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2013/02/clinton-potentially-competitive-in-alaska.html

It ain’t pretty.

It’s not a match up likely to occur but Clinton would destroy Sarah Palin in a hypothetical match up in the state, 53/37, including a 62/25 lead with independents. There’s no appetite among Alaskans for Palin 2016- only 16% think she should run to 78% who think she should not, and even among Republicans just 18% would like to see her make a bid.
To put into perspective just how poorly thought of Palin is in Alaska now, consider this: Congress has an 8% favorability rating in the state. But asked whether they have a higher opinion of Congress or Palin, Alaskans pick Congress by a 50/34 margin.
“Alaskans are pretty clearly done with Sarah Palin,” said Dean Debnam, President of Public Policy Polling. “They wouldn’t support her for the Senate, they wouldn’t support her for President, and they have an ever lower opinion of her than they do of Congress.”

I think you guys should be aware of this.
bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 9:50 PM

Ddrintn, do these results from a red state like Alaska tell you anything? Quit bringing up Romney. Stick to the subject. It’s not just bluegill who thinks Palin is a joke. This is what in trying to tell you. Let’s be reasonable, ok? We all, I assume, want to defeat Democrats. So let’s start from a place of agreement. Can you honestly say that Palin is our best bet? I know you’re chomping at the bit to bring up Romney, but resist it. Take a deep breath. Palin didn’t work out so well as a national candidate. That’s just a fact. The Palin worship can’t go on forever. Maybe among some it can, but it will continue to be less widespread. Already we have seen a greatly diminished Palin. Welcome this change, ok? That’s all I’m saying.

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 10:05 PM

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 10:05 PM

Congress has an 8% approval rating. Alaskans have a higher opinion of Congress than the governor by 50/34. This would imply that the ‘cuda’s approval rating is lower than 8%, and yet her personal numbers aren’t mentioned. Is it me or is that an odd omission?

wolfsDad on March 30, 2013 at 10:15 PM

wolfsDad on March 30, 2013 at 10:15 PM

I don’t think you can compare poll numbers like that.

But the point is really that there is very little support for a Palin candidacy… even among Republicans… and even in Alaska! I really think there are more mischief-making liberals, claiming to be Republicans, who are saying they want Palin to run than there are Republicans doing the same.

Palin is the furthest thing from an unknown quantity, and I wouldn’t expect these numbers to change THAT much to the point where Palin would be even close to competitive.

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 10:22 PM

Quit bringing up Romney.

No, thanks. He’s necessary to bring up because he represents the institutional failure of the GOP to confront the Left which Palin contrasts and challenges. Romneys will keep coming and failing until the paradigm is shattered. Palin is the paradigm shatterer.

You’re making the case for Palin.

Oh, and Romney lost.

rrpjr on March 30, 2013 at 10:23 PM

Three years out and already feeling anxiety about Palin running for President. Doesn’t promise much peace of mind going forward.

rrpjr on March 30, 2013 at 10:25 PM

I don’t think you can compare poll numbers like that.

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 10:22 PM

What does that mean? Take your time. Logic is hard.

They either asked for Hillary’s favorables (47%/45%) while not asking about Sarah’s, or the didn’t publish the response numbers for the governor. Neither is currently in elective office.

wolfsDad on March 30, 2013 at 10:29 PM

I don’t think you can compare poll numbers like that.
bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 10:22 PM
What does that mean? Take your time. Logic is hard.
They either asked for Hillary’s favorables (47%/45%) while not asking about Sarah’s, or the didn’t publish the response numbers for the governor. Neither is currently in elective office.
wolfsDad on March 30, 2013 at 10:29 PM

I just mean that you can’t apply that kind of precision when comparing different poll numbers that may have been the result of different ways of asking the questions. The larger, takeaway message from these poll results is what is important. But if you refuse to see it, then I just don’t know what to say.

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 10:52 PM

I just mean that you can’t apply that kind of precision when comparing different poll numbers that may have been the result of different ways of asking the questions. The larger, takeaway message from these poll results is what is important. But if you refuse to see it, then I just don’t know what to say.

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 10:52 PM

1) The question about Clinton’s favorables was asked and published. (47%/45%)
2) The question about Congress’ favorables was asked and published. (8%/82%)
3) The question comparing Congress to Palin was asked and published (50%/34%)

The question about the Governor’s favorables was either not asked or simply not published, while even asking whether or not she should run for president.

If you can’t deal with a simple straightforward question (entirely feasible), how can you be relied upon to determine “what is important”?

Btw, “you can’t apply that kind of precision” makes no sense whatsoever.

wolfsDad on March 30, 2013 at 11:15 PM

wolfsDad on March 30, 2013 at 11:15 PM

Okay, I see what you’re saying. To answer your question, I think it is just you grasping at straws. You desperately don’t want to believe that even 8 in 10 Alaska Republicans don’t want Palin to run.

You want to deny the poll because you don’t like what it’s saying.

Wolf, believe it. People there know Palin very well, and even the Republican voters don’t support a potential Palin 2016 run.

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 11:27 PM

Who else do you support?

bluegill on March 30, 2013 at 11:31 PM

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