Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on March 26, 2013 by Allahpundit

The one thing that the parties in this case seem to agree on is that marriage is very important. It’s thought to be a fundamental building block of society and its preservation essential for the preservation of society. Traditional marriage has been around for thousands of years. Same-sex marriage is very new. I think it was first adopted in The Netherlands in 2000. So there isn’t a lot of data about its effect. And it may turn out to be a — a good thing; it may turn out not to be a good thing, as the supporters of Proposition 8 apparently believe.

But you want us to step in and render a decision based on an assessment of the effects of this institution which is newer than cell phones or the Internet? I mean we — we are not — we do not have the ability to see the future.

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Members of the same gender have been coupling off for centuries, sometimes with ceremonies that look rather marital to modern eyes. Here in America, gay marriages predate the modern gay rights movement. Six years before Stonewall, the 1963 book The Homosexual and his Society described informal gay weddings where “all the formalities of [a] legally certified and religiously sanctioned ceremony are aped with the greatest of care.”…As gay life became more visible, so did those permanent partnerships, and as social tolerance of homosexuality grew, more people accepted the partners’ marriages as real. In 1992, long before any state recognized gay marriage as a legal right, Suzanne Sherman could fill a big chunk of a book by interviewing gays who had married and officiants who had blessed their unions. Such marriages were eventually honored by institutions outside as well as inside the gay community. By 1993, the list of companies that allowed domestic partners of the same sex to share benefits included Microsoft, Apple, HBO, Warner Bros., and Borders. By 2007, gay couples who wanted to get married at Disneyland were free to purchase the Fairy Tale Wedding package….

And so a social institution took hold: first among gays themselves, then in the larger community and marketplace. Finally the government took notice.

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The real reason for the court to invalidate the law would be that it supposedly has no rational basis and is born of “animus” toward gays. This is the brief against Proposition 8, which was struck down by a federal appellate court, the famously activist Ninth Circuit, on grounds that it has no “legitimate reason.”

In this view, the promoters of Proposition 8 came up with a definition of marriage that has stood for centuries in the West and is endorsed by every major religion simply as an imaginative way to stick it to gay people. Every serious contender in the Democratic presidential primary in 2008, including Barack Obama, supported this same definition, presumably also out of the same simmering hostility to gays.

Supporters of traditional marriage believe that the institution exists as an expression of society’s interest in children’s being raised by their biological fathers and mothers. You can say that this understanding is dated, given what has become of marriage the past 40 years. You can say that it is too pinched, given evolving mores. You can’t say it is inherently hateful.

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As the Supreme Court begins to hear oral arguments in cases involving two high-profile laws to do with same-sex marriage – California’s Proposition 8 and the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act -53 percent of Americans think it should be legal for same-sex couples to marry, while 39 percent say it should not be legal.

Although public opinion on this topic has been consistent for the last few months, it has reversed markedly from as recently as a year ago. In May 2012, just after President Barack Obama announced his support for same-sex marriage, 51 percent of Americans said it should not be legal for same-sex couples to marry…

Politically, most Democrats (63 percent) and independents (56 percent) favor legalization of same-sex marriage, while most Republicans (56 percent) do not. Still, support for same-sex marriage among Republicans has increased from just 13 percent in May 2012 (after the President announced his support of same-sex marriage) to 37 percent today.

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Via PRRI.

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For right now, it is probably best to treat the question of whether a majority of Americans support same-sex marriage as having an ambiguous answer. Polls are on the verge of saying that they do, but the ballot results are more equivocal.

By 2016, however, voters in 32 states would be willing to vote in support of same-sex marriage, according to the model. And by 2020, voters in 44 states would do so, assuming that same-sex marriage continues to gain support at roughly its previous rate.

Thus, even if one prudently assumes that support for same-sex marriage is increasing at a linear rather than accelerated pace, and that same-sex marriage will not perform quite as well at the ballot booth as in national polls of all adults, the steady increase in support is soon likely to outweigh all other factors. In fact, even if the Supreme Court decision or some other contingency freezes opinion among current voters, support for same-sex marriage would continue to increase based on generational turnover, probably enough that it would narrowly win a national ballot referendum by 2016. It might require a religious revival among the youngest generation of Americans to reverse the trend.

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The pace of American acceptance of same-sex marriage rights in the course of less than a decade is staggering. Does anyone doubt that a gay marriage ban, passed by popular vote in California in 2008, would be rejected today by a resounding majority? A national consensus is forming, albeit at varying rates depending on the region, around the notion that denying gay Americans the rights that straight Americans enjoy is anathema. A Supreme Court decision which imposes this notion on the groups and individuals who continue to oppose same-sex marriage rights will give them a grievance to rally around. They will be handed their own injustice and become convinced of their own martyrdom. Such a decision would prolong the conflict that same-sex marriage poses today which, if left to state and national legislatures to remedy, would be a relic of the past in short order.

For gay couples who believe that even one more day is too long to have to wait to have access to the rights that straight couples enjoy, you’re right. But the consequences of imposing this value on the nation’s recalcitrant traditionalists by judicial fiat, if history is any guide, will do the cause of marriage equality far more harm than good.

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LOPEZ: If the Supreme Court overturns DOMA and throws out Proposition 8, what will it mean for marriage? What would it mean for religious liberty?

GALLAGHER: It means the Supreme Court takes away the core civil rights of 7 million Californians to vote on the marriage question. It shuts down the question democratically (and also shuts out therefore the religious-liberty provisions that have accompanied most gay-marriage laws in the states). It means our traditional understanding of marriage, cross-cultural and historical, but including the vision of Genesis, will be redefined as bigotry. And marriage will be undefined in a new way. What is marriage? Why is the law involved in marriage? Why only two people? Why not close relatives too old to produce children? All these questions, which have clear answers in our classic understanding of marriage, become unclear and undefined. The answers we will come up with in the future are no longer certain. I suspect the strongest result will be a renewed push to get government out of the marriage business altogether, and Left and Right will come together to complete the de-institutionalization of marriage.

The feminist radical proposal of my youth in the Seventies will become the conservative orthodoxy of my middle age!

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I’ve never understood how anyone who spent the past four-plus years lamenting the size of government could then argue for its increase by inviting it into the discussion of marriage. We complain about government in health care, we complain about government in education, we complain about government regulating soft drink size, but suddenly some of us have no problem with more government in people’s relationships with one another. Marriage is a covenant between a man, woman, and God before God on His terms. It is a religious civil liberty, not a right granted by government. It should never have been regulated by government in the first place, and government shouldn’t have an expanded reach in further regulating it now. There is no allowance constitutionally that invites our government to define the religious covenant of marriage.

I’ve no issue with same sex couples entering into contractual agreements with each other or sharing benefits (the military decisions should be made by those with the credit of service day in and day out, not civilian advocacy groups). Isn’t that the goal of this conflict? If so, to me, that’s an issue separate from marriage. In suing over “marriage” itself one is demanding that God change His definition of the union between a man and a woman. If recognition of status, ease with other contractual obligations, and other issues are the issues, why the need to force people of faith to alter recognition of God’s Word on the matter? The people may bend as reeds to lawfare, but God will not. Frankly, I see no point in being on any side other than God’s on any matter, and God is more small government than any player in the scene.

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[T]his is a landmark victory for the forces of staid, bourgeois sexual morality. Once gays can marry, they’ll be expected to marry. And to buy sensible, boring cars that are good for car seats. I believe we’re witnessing the high water mark for “People should be able to do whatever they want, and it’s none of my business.” You thought the fifties were conformist? Wait until all those fabulous “confirmed bachelors” and maiden schoolteachers are expected to ditch their cute little one-bedrooms and join the rest of America in whining about crab grass, HOA restrictions, and the outrageous fees that schools want to charge for overnight soccer trips.

I know, it feels like we’re riding an exciting wave away from the moral dark ages and into the bright, judgement free future. But moral history is not a long road down which we’re all marching; it’s more like a track. Maybe you change lanes a bit, but you generally end up back where you started. Sometimes you’re on the licentious, “anything goes” portion near the bleachers, and sometimes you’re on the straight-and-narrow prudish bit in front of the press box. Most of the time you’re in between. But you’re still going in circles. Victorian morality was an overreaction to the rather freewheeling period which proceeded it, which was itself an overreaction to Oliver Cromwell’s puritanism…

Of course, predictions are hard, especially about the future. Nonetheless, here is mine: whatever the Supreme Court decides, gay marriage will soon be legal throughout the land. But this will not mean that we drive ever onwards towards greater sexual freedom–rather, it will mean quite the reverse. The sexual revolution is over. And the revolutionaries lost.

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Via Mediaite.


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What’s up Hot Air?

KCB on March 26, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Really?

KCB on March 26, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Gay.Gay.Gay.Gay.Gay.Gay.Gay.Gay.Gay.Gay.Gay.Gay.Gay.Gay.Gay.Gay.

portlandon on March 26, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Man and a Woman..

Or..

Giiirrrrrllll..

Electrongod on March 26, 2013 at 10:43 PM

SSM is so important..

KCB on March 26, 2013 at 10:43 PM

So over this.

KCB on March 26, 2013 at 10:44 PM

HotAir is so gay

Jackalope on March 26, 2013 at 10:44 PM

Has Webster Dictionary keeping their eye on this?

Electrongod on March 26, 2013 at 10:44 PM

And Allahpundit comes out of the closet!

Seriously, must it be all gay all day?

Blake on March 26, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Evening all. I am so over this topic. Rome is burning and the media is fixated on this.

CoffeeLover on March 26, 2013 at 10:46 PM

It’s Ground Hogs Day at Hot Air.

Today: Gay. I’ve got you Gay…..I’ve got you Gay…
Tomorrow: Gay. I’ve got you Gay…..I’ve got you Gay…
The Next Day: Gay. I’ve got you Gay…..I’ve got you Gay…
The Next Day: Gay. I’ve got you Gay…..I’ve got you Gay…
The Next Day: Gay. I’ve got you Gay…..I’ve got you Gay…
The Next Day: Gay. I’ve got you Gay…..I’ve got you Gay...
The Next Day: Gay. I’ve got you Gay…..I’ve got you Gay…

portlandon on March 26, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Inalienable right?
I don’t think so.

Don’t redefine marriage.

freedomfirst on March 26, 2013 at 10:46 PM

If I am going to be interrupted every 20 minutes with a popup of a GUY in a red shirt..
I want what’s my god given right..

A choice on gender..

I am taken this to the supremes…!!!

Electrongod on March 26, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Oh Noes,another Gay Thread,…………..
……………….the Conspiracy`s Mount!

Could it be,that for the next few days,the Left is going to Jam Same-Sex Marriage
Down the throats of Americans!!!

D*mmitt!!!!!!!!
(sarc on the D*mmitt)

canopfor on March 26, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Seriously, must it be all gay all day?

Blake on March 26, 2013 at 10:45 PMEvening all. I am so over this topic. Rome is burning and the media is fixated on this.

CoffeeLover on March 26, 2013 at 10:46 PM

The media drags us by the nose. Not me. Not tonight!

KCB on March 26, 2013 at 10:48 PM

Seriously, must it be all gay all day?

Blake on March 26, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Since we’re bombarded left AND right about this important subject, yeah.
Tis important to many.

pambi on March 26, 2013 at 10:48 PM

canopfor on March 26, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Yep, I am getting a same sex marriage commercial for the last week on rotation.

CoffeeLover on March 26, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Could it be,that for the next few days,the Left is going to Jam Same-Sex Marriage
Down the throats of Americans!!!
canopfor on March 26, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Deep throat on gay unions..er..marriage..??

Electrongod on March 26, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Hey peeps, I have a serious question to ask.

Rusty Allen on March 26, 2013 at 10:51 PM

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canopfor on March 26, 2013 at 10:51 PM

KCB on March 26, 2013 at 10:48 PM

I hear ya. lol, almost looking forward to watching the Arias trial!

CoffeeLover on March 26, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Rusty Allen on March 26, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Ask away! I pray it is OT!

KCB on March 26, 2013 at 10:51 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSZxmZmBfnU

Rainbow time.

portlandon on March 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Hey Allah can we go to a less controversial subject like “oh say” the North Dakota’s life at conception law?

melle1228 on March 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Alternate QOTD topic: my little one had first poops in the potty today. discuss.

Jackalope on March 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM

CoffeeLover on March 26, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Good to see you!

KCB on March 26, 2013 at 10:53 PM

I say we pray Hotair’s gay away. :)

melle1228 on March 26, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Nick Searcy is on REDEYE tonight, so we have that going for us.

RickB on March 26, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Evening folks

Gay 24/7

Whoopee
/

Economy.. jobs?
Meh

cmsinaz on March 26, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Rusty Allen on March 26, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Ask on ….

pambi on March 26, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Same-sex marriage is very new.

If you call a tail a leg, how many legs does a dog have? – Abraham Lincoln

VorDaj on March 26, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Yes, Ken, it is. I was wondering if…
Nevermind, it’s hotair, gay gay gay gay gay gay gay gay gay.

Rusty Allen on March 26, 2013 at 10:53 PM

MeanWhile,….StarBucks CEO *says Stick-It Up your Investment!

*(my words,not the CEO`s)

OOPS!!

Starbucks CEO tells anti-gay investor:

‘sell your shares’

Coffee chain earns praise from same-sex marriage advocates for its support

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canopfor on March 26, 2013 at 9:28 PM

canopfor on March 26, 2013 at 10:54 PM

Alternate QOTD topic: my little one had first poops in the potty today. discuss.

Jackalope on March 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM

If you are serious, and you might be ;-) that is a very big day!!!

KCB on March 26, 2013 at 10:54 PM

Jackalope on March 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Mustard yellow, chocolate pudding or Milk Duds?

We really want to know.

cozmo on March 26, 2013 at 10:55 PM

KCB on March 26, 2013 at 10:53 PM

and you too!

LOL, Jackalope

CoffeeLover on March 26, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Canopfor where have you been hiding today?

cmsinaz on March 26, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Rusty Allen on March 26, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Dammit Rusty!

KCB on March 26, 2013 at 10:55 PM

I don’t understand how 3% of the population command 97% of the conversation.

Rusty Allen on March 26, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Why only two people?

The future must not belong to those who insult the Prophet of Islam! – Barack Hussein Obama

VorDaj on March 26, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Seriously, must it be all gay all day?

Blake on March 26, 2013 at 10:45 PM

All queer all year.

steebo77 on March 26, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Jackalope on March 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Mustard yellow, chocolate pudding or Milk Duds?

We really want to know.

cozmo on March 26, 2013 at 10:55 PM

roflmao

CoffeeLover on March 26, 2013 at 10:56 PM

I don’t understand how 3% of the population command 97% of the conversation.

Rusty Allen on March 26, 2013 at 10:55 PM

They quit teaching real math 20 years ago.

KCB on March 26, 2013 at 10:56 PM

I don’t understand how 3% of the population command 97% of the conversation.

Rusty Allen on March 26, 2013 at 10:55 PM

In Germany only 2% of the population were Nazi party members.

VorDaj on March 26, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Hey Allah can we go to a less controversial subject like “oh say” the North Dakota’s life at conception law?

melle1228 on March 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM

I’d switch over to that thread in a heartbeat.

steebo77 on March 26, 2013 at 10:57 PM

From a commenter at Breitbart

If the “Equal Protection Clause” gives a civil right to “anyone” who wishes to marry, then under what rationale would brother-sister, father-daughter, father-son, mother-son, or mother-daughter marriages be disallowed?

This is where the left is taking us.

Let’s not forget, Germany recently had to pass a law to remind the liberals that having sex with animals is not acceptable.

I concur.

jawkneemusic on March 26, 2013 at 10:57 PM

I don’t understand how 3% of the population command 97% of the conversation.

Rusty Allen on March 26, 2013 at 10:55 PM

All animals (and orifices) are equal, but some are more equal than others.

VorDaj on March 26, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Evening folks

Gay 24/7

Whoopee
/

Economy.. jobs?
Meh

cmsinaz on March 26, 2013 at 10:53 PM

cmsinaz:Evening CMS,

yup,after a few years of same-Sex MSM Saturation,here we are!:)

canopfor on March 26, 2013 at 10:58 PM

If you are serious, and you might be ;-) that is a very big day!!!

KCB on March 26, 2013 at 10:54 PM

Lol, I’m a ridiculously proud mama!

Jackalope on March 26, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Seriously, must it be all gay all day?

Blake on March 26, 2013 at 10:45 PM

…well, at least until June!…meanwhile unemployment and the economy could make it drag on way longer !

KOOLAID2 on March 26, 2013 at 10:58 PM

I’d switch over to that thread in a heartbeat.

steebo77 on March 26, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Awesome pun.

I am agnostic.. And I am truly serious about thinking praying for the first time in years that Hotair renounces its gayness.

melle1228 on March 26, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Alternate QOTD topic: my little one had first poops in the potty today. discuss.

Jackalope on March 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Is the little one gay? Are the poops gay? If not then bugger off!

Bishop on March 26, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Economy.. jobs?
Meh

cmsinaz on March 26, 2013 at 10:53 PM

It’s funny you mention jobs..

We have one being delivered to us right now…

Electrongod on March 26, 2013 at 11:00 PM

I don’t care if people are gay. Who they have sex with or fall in love with matters not. I don’t know why people think that their sexuality should define them. All of this gay marriage debate is just meaningless wedge-issue politics meant to divide us. Those who have the power are turning ordinary folks against each other so that they can control us. The nation is going broke and the economy sucks. There is very little opportunity anymore and we’ve become just a bunch of silly tribes fighting over stupid crap. The powerful use this to distract us from the real problem which is their failure of leadership. We’re all being manipulated and played.

Corporal Tunnel on March 26, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Indeed big c :)

cmsinaz on March 26, 2013 at 11:00 PM

…well, at least until June!…meanwhile unemployment and the economy could make it drag on way longer !

KOOLAID2 on March 26, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Funny you mentioned ‘drag’……

Electrongod on March 26, 2013 at 11:00 PM

GhoulAid on March 26, 2013 at 10:40 PM

Indeed, and much like our current cultural atmosphere, that small percentage is magnified by the media and the easily influenced. And they don’t even realize they are commuting atrocities.

Rusty Allen on March 26, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Hey EG :)

cmsinaz on March 26, 2013 at 11:02 PM

I wonder what we’ll talk about tomorrow with doma tee’d up?

Meanwhile bernake hits the enter button on $85 billion every month.

wolly4321 on March 26, 2013 at 11:02 PM

Jackalope on March 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Mustard yellow, chocolate pudding or Milk Duds?

We really want to know.

cozmo on March 26, 2013 at 10:55 PM

roflmao

CoffeeLover on March 26, 2013 at 10:56 PM

The latter. Reward is getting to put pennies in the piggy bank. The incentive that keeps on giving.

Jackalope on March 26, 2013 at 11:02 PM

I don’t understand how 3% of the population command 97% of the conversation.

Rusty Allen on March 26, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Ask the media.

pambi on March 26, 2013 at 11:02 PM

Ya know,I blame the Same-Sex Marriage Crowd,for spawning these two EarthQuakes!!
(snark)


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canopfor on March 26, 2013 at 11:03 PM

MarshFoxism #1

A man is truly not a man until he fails.

MarshFox on March 26, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Alternate QOTD topic: my little one had first poops in the potty today. discuss.

Jackalope on March 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM

But is it unconstitutional?

If so..

When was it…

Electrongod on March 26, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Funny you mentioned ‘drag’……

Electrongod on March 26, 2013 at 11:00 PM

(:->)

KOOLAID2 on March 26, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Evening MarshFox!!!

I don’t know why I am having such a case of the giggles….

CoffeeLover on March 26, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Wolly ugharoo 24/7 of doma

Funny the lsm thinks the court won’t do squat… they also thought obamacare would be turned down as well

cmsinaz on March 26, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Hey EG :)

cmsinaz on March 26, 2013 at 11:02 PM

*clink*

If it is still constitutional..

And doesn’t offend a small group..

And isn’t taken up to some federal court by someone not in standing..

And isn’t protested by the media..

Electrongod on March 26, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Jackalope on March 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Congrats !
Did you give him/her one-a dem ‘participation’ trophies ??
;-)

pambi on March 26, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Lol, I’m a ridiculously proud mama!

Jackalope on March 26, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Congrats! Those are huge milestones!!! Celebrate them!! ;-).

KCB on March 26, 2013 at 11:05 PM

I wonder what we’ll talk about tomorrow with doma tee’d up?

Meanwhile bernake hits the enter button on $85 billion every month.

wolly4321 on March 26, 2013 at 11:02 PM

wolly4321:Good point!:)

canopfor on March 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM

SWalker on March 26, 2013 at 11:04 PM

He does indeed, and he tempts those on both the left and the right, and that is just the way he likes it!

MarshFox on March 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM

Congrats, jackalope

Rusty Allen on March 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM

Hey peeps, I have a serious question to ask.

Rusty Allen on March 26, 2013 at 10:51 PM

It’s true. The fish is a lipstick lesbian. We really should have told you privately. Sorry..

katy the mean old lady on March 26, 2013 at 11:07 PM

SWalker on March 26, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Would have you know that I’ve spent many hours in prayer about posting that to our FB.
Methinks God won that one, so I did. :-)

pambi on March 26, 2013 at 11:07 PM

CoffeeLover on March 26, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Life is too short not to laugh, and I never take myself to seriously:)

MarshFox on March 26, 2013 at 11:08 PM

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canopfor on March 26, 2013 at 11:08 PM

So CNN is only focused on a divided gop on SSM….Nevermind the dems division

cmsinaz on March 26, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Ask the media.

pambi on March 26, 2013 at 11:02 PM

Seriously. And false analogies/straw men all over Facebook…gay images that say “like if you believe in love.” So either you want gay marriage or you don’t believe in love…low info voters eat that $hit up.

Jackalope on March 26, 2013 at 11:09 PM

katy the mean old lady on March 26, 2013 at 11:07 PM

(:

Rusty Allen on March 26, 2013 at 11:10 PM

katy the mean old lady on March 26, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Somebody had to break it to him….

KCB on March 26, 2013 at 11:11 PM

It’s true. The fish is a lipstick lesbian. We really should have told you privately. Sorry..

katy the mean old lady on March 26, 2013 at 11:07 PM

And when were you going to inform me..

:)

Electrongod on March 26, 2013 at 11:11 PM

Alternate QOTD topic: my little one had first poops in the potty today. discuss.

Jackalope on March 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Assault poops?

katy the mean old lady on March 26, 2013 at 11:11 PM

*clink* eg

We have to get into the 21st people…we’re caveman apparently
-some gop talking head up against Ralph reed

cmsinaz on March 26, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Hey peeps, I have a serious question to ask.

Rusty Allen on March 26, 2013 at 10:51 PM

It’s true. The fish is a lipstick lesbian. We really should have told you privately. Sorry..

katy the mean old lady on March 26, 2013 at 11:07 PM

I LOL’D on this.

Typical KTMOL

Barred on March 26, 2013 at 11:12 PM

canopfor on March 26, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Deep throat on gay unions..er..marriage..??

Electrongod on March 26, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Electrongod:

Debbie Does Democrats!!
(sarc)

canopfor on March 26, 2013 at 11:12 PM

And when were you going to inform me..

:)

Electrongod on March 26, 2013 at 11:11 PM

You knew.

KCB on March 26, 2013 at 11:12 PM

I wonder what we’ll talk about tomorrow with doma tee’d up?

Meanwhile bernake hits the enter button on $85 billion every month.

wolly4321 on March 26, 2013 at 11:02 PM

wolly4321:Good point!:)

canopfor on March 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM

Worth repeating.

Jackalope on March 26, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Jackalope on March 26, 2013 at 11:09 PM

They understand not the second and third order effects of what they support, plus heck that is what the government is for to force people to believe what they say they should.

MarshFox on March 26, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Hey peeps, I have a serious question to ask.

Rusty Allen on March 26, 2013 at 10:51 PM
It’s true. The fish is a lipstick lesbian. We really should have told you privately. Sorry..

katy the mean old lady on March 26, 2013 at 11:07 PM

That was too much information Katy. I think he wanted someone to have that talk with him.. YOu know the one– the bird and the bee. :)

melle1228 on March 26, 2013 at 11:12 PM

It’s true. The fish is a lipstick lesbian. We really should have told you privately. Sorry..

katy the mean old lady on March 26, 2013 at 11:07 PM

…you made my tea go down the wrong pipe…dammit…I almost chocked to death! (:->)

KOOLAID2 on March 26, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Jackalope on March 26, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Truly, one big OY.
No responses yet to SW’s link .. Yet !
Hey, we do as we can, and shouts out to our HA buds who find these goodies when we can’t/don’t.

pambi on March 26, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Traditional marriage has been around for thousands of years.

If you are a young-earth creationist. Otherwise, it’s been around as long as the modern form of the species. Ug and Ugette cut each other from the herd; he got territorial, she got jealous; they bonded like a weird, macro diatomic molecule and became one thing. It’s part of the species.

omg

*deep breath*

Axe on March 26, 2013 at 11:13 PM

katy the mean old lady on March 26, 2013 at 11:07 PM

They throw them back in the water where I come from, just saying!

MarshFox on March 26, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Jackalope on March 26, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Or those stupid red and pink equal signs that some people are rushing to put up as their FB avatar because they support “equality” in marriage. I don’t respond to peer pressure. At freaking all.

PatriotGal2257 on March 26, 2013 at 11:14 PM

So CNN is only focused on a divided gop on SSM….Nevermind the dems division

cmsinaz on March 26, 2013 at 11:08 PM

It’s CNN.

Low info Voters get educated in 30 minutes..

Life is good..

Why do you think there are layovers in airports..
And CNN is on the tele….

*Tin foil hat off*

Or not…

Electrongod on March 26, 2013 at 11:15 PM

Assault poops?

katy the mean old lady on March 26, 2013 at 11:11 PM

You’ve joined the scatology squad? Considering the alternative in here, it’s probably not the worst choice.

wolfsDad on March 26, 2013 at 11:15 PM

Hiya. There’s another HA’er over on Twitchy. They use a different alias-but it sounds like here they’re a reg or semi-reg.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 26, 2013 at 11:15 PM

You knew.

KCB on March 26, 2013 at 11:12 PM

LOL..

You be right.

Electrongod on March 26, 2013 at 11:16 PM

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