Mike Bloomberg: “I do think there are certain times we should infringe on your freedom”

posted at 4:41 pm on March 25, 2013 by Allahpundit

Ben Howe’s right that the rhetoric here is more notable than the underlying sentiment. Most pols would never be this blunt in describing the civil-libertarian price of new regulations; they’d either dodge the subject or sell those regs in an Orwellian way as an enhancement of freedom. Not Bloomy. The combination of being term-limited, governing one of the bluest cities in America, and being worth $20 billion affords him a candor that lesser nannies can only dream of. Just imagine: On Friday, this guy was heard publicly lamenting the growing threat of domestic drone surveillance — and not without reason — before throwing up his hands and insisting there’s nothing we can do to stop them. Really? He’s willing to spend his political capital in office on dopey things like soda portions and his financial capital on ad campaigns arbitrarily slamming “assault weapons” to the tune of tens of millions of dollars, but there’s nothing he can do to try to put the brakes on the surveillance state? That’s Bloomberg’s whole problem in a nutshell: He’s constantly playing small ball. He could have devoted his first two terms as mayor to bolstering the city’s hurricane defenses or improving its electrical grid, but instead he wanted to bear down on trans fats and smoking in bars. Even where I disagree with him, his moves make no sense. If you’re willing to spend $50 million or more to shape public opinion on guns, why would you focus on background checks and “assault weapons” rather than to try to do real damage by putting a dent in support for semiautomatics generally? It’s bizarre.

Howe’s right too that his use of pronouns in the clip is revealing. Who’s the “we” and who’s the “you” in “your freedoms”? If “we” get to regulate “your” obesity because, after all, we have to pay for part of the cost to treat it, what other behaviors do “we” get to regulate in the name of saving some money? To find out, watch the second clip below (via Mediaite) in which Coulter floats a proposal that wouldn’t go over as well with Bloomy’s very liberal allies. Or, if you don’t like that one, how about Nick Gillespie’s proposal to ban skiing? There’s no limit to the things we could prohibit in the name of cost-cutting. Which, of course, is the problem.

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How long before this kook leaves office? I guess since he (illegally) got rid of term limits, he’ll be there for life.

Ward Cleaver on March 25, 2013 at 4:43 PM

But the koch brothers! Wait…nevermind.

can_con on March 25, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Bloomberg would have supported internment camps.

steebo77 on March 25, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Mayor Bloomberg, you cannot buy America. Our liberty is not for sale.

petefrt on March 25, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Tiny Hitler

Schadenfreude on March 25, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Why are Bloombert, Friedman and Krugman tyrants?

Schadenfreude on March 25, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Bloomberg

Schadenfreude on March 25, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Every dictator in history has said what they did ” was for the bennefit of the people”

ChunkyLover on March 25, 2013 at 4:47 PM

It’s bizarre because Bloomberg is a f***king nutcase. I don’t know why NYC voters don’t recall him. They elected him mayor, not chief health and safety officer.

RobertE on March 25, 2013 at 4:48 PM

All I know is idiots like him are causing some of my liberal friends to ask what is truly the role of Government and why isn’t it smaller…so keep talking Bloomy! You’re causing them to see the light!

nextgen_repub on March 25, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Well that little sound byte will fit nice and snug in every gun rights ad to counter Bloomberg’s gun control push.

Daemonocracy on March 25, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Not to demean Sinatra but if I could make it in New York I sure wouldn’t sing about it. I’d leave.

DanMan on March 25, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Yes, there does come a time to infringe on the rights to life, liberty, and happiness.

How about we start with Bloomberg?

Liam on March 25, 2013 at 4:50 PM

e’s willing to spend his political capital in office on dopey things like soda portions and his financial capital on ad campaigns arbitrarily slamming “assault weapons” to the tune of tens of millions of dollars, but there’s nothing he can do to try to put the brakes on the surveillance state?

In other words, he’s just another feckless lump.

scalleywag on March 25, 2013 at 4:50 PM

The imbecilic ignoramuses that comprise the left deserve to have their liberties trampled on by the tyrants they elect.

tom daschle concerned on March 25, 2013 at 4:50 PM

Fine, Bloomberg. You first. Shut your piehole and never appear on TV again. You don’t really need all that media coverage, do you? You don’t really need that soapbox, do you? You don’t really need that much access to media, do you? And while we’re at it, I’d like to come down to Gracie Mansion and have a look through your office. You wouldn’t mind, would you?

CurtZHP on March 25, 2013 at 4:51 PM

There are plenty of times when people’s liberty and freedom should be limited. Particularly when the practice of those liberties and freedoms is not self contained by the actor in question.
If you want a free society where you can do things you want to do, then I suggest you start building the momentum to get rid of welfare and social security. I am not in the mood to have my wages paying for your failures.

astonerii on March 25, 2013 at 4:52 PM

CurtZHP on March 25, 2013 at 4:51 PM

Bloomberg is the 13th richest person the world.

Liam on March 25, 2013 at 4:52 PM

Nanny, nanny, boo boo, stick your head in doo doo, Bloomie.

scalleywag on March 25, 2013 at 4:54 PM

If this man gets anywhere near the White House, I’m leaving the country. Probably Canada. I’ll gamble on Harper over Bloomberg.

MadisonConservative on March 25, 2013 at 4:55 PM

Howe’s right too that his use of pronouns in the clip is revealing. Who’s the “we” and who’s the “you” in “your freedoms”?

The only really important part of the story.

There are those who decide, and those who get “decided” for.

BobMbx on March 25, 2013 at 4:55 PM

Bloomberg

Schadenfreude on March 25, 2013 at 4:46 PM

No. I like Bloombert. Run with it.

Curtiss on March 25, 2013 at 4:55 PM

Bloomberg is a good example of the new aristocracy.

They take our money and tell us how we must live.

darwin on March 25, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Bloomy doesn’t want to govern…

… He wants to rule.

Seven Percent Solution on March 25, 2013 at 4:56 PM

I am not in the mood to have my wages paying for your failures.

astonerii on March 25, 2013 at 4:52 PM

Now you’re just being silly. We all know you don’t have any wages.

But seriously, it’s a good point.

happytobehere on March 25, 2013 at 4:56 PM

If you criticize Obama you’re racist.

If you criticize Bloomberg: http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2013/03/25/Al-Sharpton-Americans-Dont-Like-Bloomberg-Because-He-is-a-Big-City-Jewish-Man

davidk on March 25, 2013 at 4:57 PM

Look here it is rubes, HE’S A BILLIONAIRE;
1) so when he goes skiing and breaks his leg YOU don’t have to pay for it, whereas when you trailer-park trash inhabitants break YOUR legs, he has to pay for it; and
2) Being a BILLIONAIRE, unlike you Chik-Fil-A short order cooks, he’s demonstrated he’s pretty smart. So if the smart guy thinks for you it’s good. Probably better than if you try to think for yourselves. Because let’s be honest most of you people watch too much Faux News and hang out in places like Hot Air or Ace of Spades and you really don’t understand all the nuances of public policy, like a smart BILLIONAIRE like Bloomberg does.
Lastly I’d imagine most of you don’t like him because he’s a Jooooo and a BILLIONAIRE, so your anti-Semitism and resentment of his wealth make you pre-disposed to dislike him.

I hope I spoke in small enough words for you Christianist God-bags….

Now I’m off to see The Incredible Burt Wonderstone and that marvelous actor and activist Jim Carrey.

JFKY on March 25, 2013 at 4:57 PM

“I do think there are certain times”: when the commoners should conduct an open, physically violent REVOLT against those who supposedly serve as elected officials.

listens2glenn on March 25, 2013 at 4:58 PM

I want to see all our trolls rush in here to defend Bloomberg on this.

Liam on March 25, 2013 at 4:58 PM

Mike Bloomberg: “I do think there are certain times we should infringe on your freedom”

Yes, during martial law (only for the reasons that that can be implemented) and in the most serious cases of threats to national security (but that is individual in nature). Not for anything else. Not just to satisfy the nihilistic, evil, control-hungry whims of the left and the turds they put into office.

The midget Stalin needs to be soda-boarded with big gulps in a smoke-filled room. Over and over and over. Just because.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 25, 2013 at 4:59 PM

That Meme Roth is incredbily undisciplined. Ann ignoring her was brilliant.

Meme is the perfect selective leftist hack, all throughout. Only leftist oxen are Gored.

Schadenfreude on March 25, 2013 at 5:00 PM

“We allow you to…”
Says it all right there.

hopeful on March 25, 2013 at 5:01 PM

That’s Bloomberg’s whole problem in a nutshell: He’s constantly playing small ball. He could have devoted his first two terms as mayor to bolstering the city’s hurricane defenses or improving its electrical grid, but instead he wanted to bear down on trans fats and smoking in bars.

Bingo. His problem isn’t that he wants to ban things. His problem is that he wants to do nothing about things that are actually harmful, but he’s more than willing to nitpick when it comes to the most innocuous things. Hence why he believes in banning big gulp sodas while he simultaneously provides free needles to heroin addicts.

Stoic Patriot on March 25, 2013 at 5:02 PM

If this man gets anywhere near the White House, I’m leaving the country. Probably Canada. I’ll gamble on Harper over Bloomberg.

MadisonConservative on March 25, 2013 at 4:55 PM

lol, the Chings, Pings and Tongs seem more pleasant than effing Bloomingturd.

arnold ziffel on March 25, 2013 at 5:02 PM

Now you’re just being silly. We all know you don’t have any wages.

But seriously, it’s a good point.

happytobehere on March 25, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Thanks for the second part.

astonerii on March 25, 2013 at 5:02 PM

I see Mimi Roth ascribes to the Joe Biden Debate Method.

I can’t believe she equated Nanny Bloomberg’s force of law coercion to the Nanny business’s free market force of pleading persuasion.

When Coca-cola starts fining people or putting people in jail for not buying their product, I’ll apologize to this stupid sl**.

Dusty on March 25, 2013 at 5:02 PM

certain times

As defined as: “Whenever we feel you aren’t living your life in keeping with the values (such as they are) of a socialist, a communist or a Marxist. Additionally, whenever you want something not provided or sanctioned by the State.”

FOAD, Bloomberg. Leave me alone, and I’ll return the favor.

Washington Nearsider on March 25, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Doesn’t he have a pothole to fall in to?

can_con on March 25, 2013 at 5:03 PM

He got the pronouns right. “Who, Whom” would also be accurate.

boko fittleworth on March 25, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Howe’s right too that his use of pronouns in the clip is revealing. Who’s the “we” and who’s the “you” in “your freedoms”?

To take a stab at it, I think he means “we” is the government, while “you” are the citizens who are governed.

Stoic Patriot on March 25, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Bloomberg is perfectly free to come my home and personally infringe on my liberty.

He won’t like how that turns out. If he shows up with fifty cops, and if I have only one shot to fire, I won’t be aiming at the cops.

Liam on March 25, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Mike Bloomberg: “I do think there are certain times we should infringe on your freedom”

Turn about Jack, turn about.

Perhaps its time to make limiting our freedom associate with limiting yours, make authoritarian rule a jail-able offense.

Speakup on March 25, 2013 at 5:05 PM

And, no, you liberals. It’s not because rich man Bloomberg is Jewish.

Liam on March 25, 2013 at 5:06 PM

Curious that he uses the term from the 2nd amendment.

That assumes he’s read it….

NMRN123 on March 25, 2013 at 5:07 PM

To take a stab at it, I think he means “we” is the government, while “you” are the citizens who are governed.

Stoic Patriot on March 25, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Then he should have said, “there are certain time we should infringe on our freedoms.” The slime who work in the government are still citizens and bound by the law, so their freedoms would need to be included in the restriction.

But, the midget Stalin used “you” because he wanted to exempt government slime, as we see with New York’s insane gun ban law and the like.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 25, 2013 at 5:08 PM

MadisonConservative on March 25, 2013 at 4:55 PM

I’ll stay just to be a thorn in the side of progressives. From both parties. But we’re losing. I don’t think there’s any turning America back.

As soon as the “fiscally conservative”/social progressives in both parties get it through their head that there is no turning back on even runaway budgets and accept we’re over, the sooner the donks can just accept their award for being the dominant political force in this country.

smoothsailing on March 25, 2013 at 5:09 PM

If you criticize Bloomberg: http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2013/03/25/Al-Sharpton-Americans-Dont-Like-Bloomberg-Because-He-is-a-Big-City-Jewish-Man

[davidk on March 25, 2013 at 4:57 PM]

Kind of ironic coming from the man who fashioned his own mini-Kristallnacht, otherwise known as Freddie’s Fashion Mart.

Dusty on March 25, 2013 at 5:10 PM

It’s called “learned helplessness” folks. Politicans treat voters like children and they forget how to act like adults so they vote in people like Bloomberg who will tell them exactly how to live their lives. It’s seen especially in welfare lifers too.

hopeful on March 25, 2013 at 5:10 PM

His problem is that he wants to do nothing about things that are actually harmful, but he’s more than willing to nitpick when it comes to the most innocuous things.

It’s the problem of Modern Government. Government’s job IS to make you safer, BUT Bloomberg and others now actually mean it’s government’s job to make you BETTER….. And to make you better we have to infringe and bully and be very intrusive, AND that uses up lots of resources, resources we can’t use on schools, roads, infrastructure because making you better is costly, but it makes us neglect the things that government SHOULD be doing to make you safer.

JFKY on March 25, 2013 at 5:12 PM


Why are Bloombert, Friedman and Krugman tyrants?

Schadenfreude on March 25, 2013 at 4:46 PM


Question of the year to Lefties:
Do you agree with Der Mayor’s opinion on our freedoms?

This window into his thinking it extremely insightful, and most Proggies will unofficially agree – the crux of if the matter is whether they will acknowledge this officially or not.

NMRN123 on March 25, 2013 at 5:12 PM

GOOD GRIEF!

Cleombrotus on March 25, 2013 at 5:15 PM

He could have devoted his first two terms as mayor to bolstering the city’s hurricane defenses or improving its electrical grid, but instead he wanted to bear down on trans fats and smoking in bars.

You forgot improving how to plow snow. How could you forget improving how to plow snow?//

ted c on March 25, 2013 at 5:15 PM

Proof positive there are elite politicos who are unschooled in what our Constitution is! Mayor Bloomingbird, President Obama and too may to mention inside the Beltway, think nothing of imposing their will on us mere citizens!
The growth in military armament inside DHS, but one example, should be very alarming to all citizens and defenders of our country!

tomshup on March 25, 2013 at 5:16 PM

and being worth $20 billion affords him a candor that lesser nannies can only dream of.

Zing!

ted c on March 25, 2013 at 5:16 PM

NMRN123 on March 25, 2013 at 5:12 PM

Liberals are all for all kind of rights. Except for those who disagree with them.

Liam on March 25, 2013 at 5:17 PM

Hearing that annoying lib brat in the Geraldo video gave me a headache, so I had to take a Tylenol, thereby costing me money. Since it cost me money, does that mean that we can ban her? Someone needs to smack that obnoxious chick. And I volunteer. And who is she to talk about “obesity”? It’s not like she’s the slimmest chick I’ve ever seen. Frankly, she could use some time at the gym.

WhatSlushfund on March 25, 2013 at 5:18 PM

Geez, Allah, I never expected to hear you use “semi-automatics” like it’s a thing. Did you mean guns, generally?

S. Weasel on March 25, 2013 at 5:19 PM

Bloomberg– The poster child for Daddy State..

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 5:20 PM

Geez, Allah, I never expected to hear you use “semi-automatics” like it’s a thing. Did you mean guns, generally?

S. Weasel on March 25, 2013 at 5:19 PM

Does anyone really need a firearm that’s not a musket?

happytobehere on March 25, 2013 at 5:22 PM

NYC is the best city on Earth.

nonpartisan on March 24, 2013 at 3:11 PM

Del Dolemonte on March 25, 2013 at 5:23 PM

Does anyone really need a firearm that’s not a musket?

happytobehere on March 25, 2013 at 5:22 PM

With liberals like Bloomberg running loose, HELL YES!

He makes me want to own a Ma Deuce.

Liam on March 25, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Liberals are all for all kind of rights. Except for those who disagree with them.

Liam on March 25, 2013 at 5:17 PM

Liar.. Liberals really only like two rights: abortion and gay marriage. Everything else can be given by and paid for by the state..

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 5:25 PM

He told everyone that he delights in the Nanny state especially when he gets to be the Nanny. Unfortunately he didn’t say much until Obama showed up and wants the same thing. Since Obama is getting away with it, he thinks he should, too. Apparently all and I do mean all except for about three or four of our elected officials are doing the same thing. Looking to Obama for guidance. Time to throw them all out.

BetseyRoss on March 25, 2013 at 5:25 PM

bloomberg should be impeached!
There, now I feel better.

losarkos on March 25, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Liar.. Liberals really only like two rights: abortion and gay marriage. Everything else can be given by and paid for by the state..

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 5:25 PM

For now. Wait till they push to lower the age of consent to 12 or so.

Liam on March 25, 2013 at 5:29 PM

The midget Stalin needs to be soda-boarded with big gulps in a smoke-filled room. Over and over and over. Just because.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 25, 2013 at 4:59 PM

And then have his skin scrubbed off with salt.

MustLoveBlogs on March 25, 2013 at 5:31 PM

BloomBerg,……..The InDependant,

er,

The Interfere’r Extraordinaire!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on March 25, 2013 at 5:31 PM

It’s the problem of Modern Government. Government’s job IS to make you safer, BUT Bloomberg and others now actually mean it’s government’s job to make you BETTER

[JFKY on March 25, 2013 at 5:12 PM]

Yeah. I’m really looking forward to these nanny-staters developing G-23 Paxilon Hydroclorate for our betterment.

Dusty on March 25, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Does anyone really need a firearm that’s not a musket?

happytobehere on March 25, 2013 at 5:22 PM

Any one with a brain would know the answer to that.

That you ask the question…

cozmo on March 25, 2013 at 5:32 PM

And then have his skin scrubbed off with salt.

MustLoveBlogs on March 25, 2013 at 5:31 PM

You forgot the big-grit sandpaper.

Liam on March 25, 2013 at 5:32 PM

People in Italy also thought there were times when lynching their leader and hanging his dead a$$ed body upside down in the city square was appropriate too.

44Magnum on March 25, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Yes, all the Really Great Dictators felt that way… Mao, Lennon, Stalin, Hitler, Castro… Muhammad.

rgranger on March 25, 2013 at 5:34 PM

I do think there are certain times we should infringe on the freedom of petty tyrants. Any attempt at tyranny and/or infringement on Constitutional rights should be answered with immediate removal from office, trial for treason, and promptly hung in the town square.

dentarthurdent on March 25, 2013 at 5:35 PM

People in Italy also thought there were times when lynching their leader and hanging his dead a$$ed body upside down in the city square was appropriate too.

44Magnum on March 25, 2013 at 5:33 PM

And I think perhaps we should reconsider that as an appropriate solution for petty tyrants.

dentarthurdent on March 25, 2013 at 5:36 PM

dentarthurdent on March 25, 2013 at 5:35 PM

We live in tyranny today, and have for 75 years… I’m not that old…

astonerii on March 25, 2013 at 5:38 PM

For now. Wait till they push to lower the age of consent to 12 or so.

Liam on March 25, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Its happening here and now on Hot Air. You have people from both sides of the spectrum either dropping hints in their comments to get the topic out there and others calling for it directly. Some of the more popular folks that comment seem to think it would be alright.

I’m glad some of the established old-timers here are talking about about and against it. No insult intended.

smoothsailing on March 25, 2013 at 5:38 PM

And I think perhaps we should reconsider that as an appropriate solution for petty tyrants.

dentarthurdent on March 25, 2013 at 5:36 PM

I would have to skip the part about trials and go straight to the penalty phase. Liberals, by their own words in public, are all the conviction I need.

Liam on March 25, 2013 at 5:39 PM

Can’t even read the articles because of all the damn pop ups SO ANNOYING

bfinstock79 on March 25, 2013 at 5:40 PM

OT: Another opportunist Dem evolves on SSM

–They are like Roaches coming out of the woodwork

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/25/mark-warner-gay-marriage_n_2951066.html

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 5:42 PM

Does anyone really need a firearm that’s not a musket?

happytobehere on March 25, 2013 at 5:22 PM

Well. When the 2nd Amendment was ratified, the musket was the state-of-the-art military technology of the day.

Clearly, the founders intended every citizen to have access to state-of-the-art military technology.

Washington Nearsider on March 25, 2013 at 5:42 PM

I’m glad some of the established old-timers here are talking about about and against it. No insult intended.

smoothsailing on March 25, 2013 at 5:38 PM

All of the Conservatives I read here are appalled at the idea of an adult being intimate with a child. So, I’m at a loss of your intended point.

What I do see, though, is how the trolls (all liberals) are the ones who would be open to the idea. They all already have excuses for their ghoulishness (read the archives of the day Sandy Hook happened), and it’s not a stretch to see where liberals are willing to go.

Liam on March 25, 2013 at 5:44 PM

And I think perhaps we should reconsider that as an appropriate solution for petty tyrants.

dentarthurdent on March 25, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Ordinarilly, I’m not for the violent resolution to a lot of issues… but ….well….

A lot of people are begining to give voice to such a prospect in circles I traverse. I suspect that that kind of thinking isn’t as localised as some might think.

This could be why the Obamanation admin is buying up shidt loads of ammo.

They believe they’re going to NEED it.

44Magnum on March 25, 2013 at 5:46 PM

The costs related to promiscuous sex, both straight and gay, are large.

Careful lefties what you are willing to turn a blind eye.You may truly have someone in your bedroom.

CW on March 25, 2013 at 5:53 PM

The costs related to promiscuous sex, both straight and gay, are large.

Careful lefties what you are willing to turn a blind eye.You may truly have someone in your bedroom.

CW on March 25, 2013 at 5:53 PM

Then they’ll call it an orgy, and lecture us normal healthy people how its so great.

Liam on March 25, 2013 at 5:56 PM

As I just posted on the Ran Paul druggie thread:

In NY, and in many other cities, it is becoming more common for the police to just arbitrarily decide they need to stop someone and ask for ID and search them – all part of the new liberal tyranny and as in the other Bloomy thread where he just stated “sometimes we need to infringe on your rights”.
Hate to use Huffpo as a reference – but it was at the top of my google search on “stop and frisk”.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/13/nypd-stop-and-frisks-15-shocking-facts_n_1513362.html
The 4th Amendment is already dead in parts of this country.

dentarthurdent on March 25, 2013 at 5:46 PM

dentarthurdent on March 25, 2013 at 5:56 PM

“So do we!” – social “conservatives”

Armin Tamzarian on March 25, 2013 at 5:58 PM

“So do we!” – social “conservatives”

Armin Tamzarian on March 25, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Spoken like someone who probably doesn’t know any real life social conservatives..

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 5:59 PM

“So do we!” – social “conservatives”

Armin Tamzarian on March 25, 2013 at 5:58 PM

How about you state some examples of your assertion?

Liam on March 25, 2013 at 5:59 PM

dentarthurdent on March 25, 2013 at 5:56 PM

If New York is not honoring the 4th amendment than you have bigger problems on whether or not meth is legal.

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 6:00 PM

How about you state some examples of your assertion?

Liam on March 25, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Shhh he is busy cracking himself up and talking to himself. Let him have his fun. :)

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Shhh he is busy cracking himself up and talking to himself. Let him have his fun. :)

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Ummm…

NO!

Liam on March 25, 2013 at 6:03 PM

How about you state some examples of your assertion?

Liam on March 25, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Seriously? You need me to provide examples to support my point that a movement that is almost entirely built on restricting abortion and gay marriage (and to a lesser extent since the 80′s, pornography, television, etc.) is interested in infringing on personal freedom?

Armin Tamzarian on March 25, 2013 at 6:04 PM

Spoken like someone who probably doesn’t know any real life social conservatives..

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 5:59 PM

I was going to dismiss this comment with an off-hand remark about not associating with tyrants and busybodies, but I’m actually curious now: exactly what, in your opinion, would personally interacting with social “conservatives” (rather than sparring with them on internet forums) do to change my, or anyone’s, impression of them?

Armin Tamzarian on March 25, 2013 at 6:07 PM

Seriously? You need me to provide examples to support my point that a movement that is almost entirely built on restricting abortion and gay marriage (and to a lesser extent since the 80′s, pornography, television, etc.) is interested in infringing on personal freedom?

Armin Tamzarian on March 25, 2013 at 6:04 PM

Gay marriage- Should be a state issue.. Taken out of SOCONS hands by the judiciary. It is by nature BIG GOVERNMENT. You are asking the government to license a private relationship. You are asking the government for PERMISSION to marry your partner.

Abortion- Again should have been left a state issue. Taken out of socons hands by liberals. It is a medical procedure which are routinely banned by the FDA and HHS, but I don’t see you on here bit&hing about all the EUropean cancer treatments that we can’t get in the United States- You only care about the ability for some chick to kill her own child..

Go watch all the frickin porn and tv you want..Keep off public places my children may have access to.

What else do you want to know.

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 6:08 PM

“… it is becoming more common for the police to just arbitrarily decide they need to stop someone ….”

[dentarthurdent on March 25, 2013 at 5:56 PM]

I don’t read HP for good reason (the above being an example of why), so do me a favor and read this, then tell me how many of the “15 shocking facts” in the HP post are left still standing.

Dusty on March 25, 2013 at 6:11 PM

Seriously? You need me to provide examples to support my point that a movement that is almost entirely built on restricting abortion and gay marriage (and to a lesser extent since the 80′s, pornography, television, etc.) is interested in infringing on personal freedom?

Armin Tamzarian on March 25, 2013 at 6:04 PM

Yes, I actually do wish you to defend your position. You’re an obvious liberal. So, yes–defend it. Tell us all why and how it’s so coll with YOU to murder unborn babies, and what is so ‘dignified’ about one guy taking into his rectum the penis of another guy.

Tell us all about the ‘beauty’ of any of that.

Liam on March 25, 2013 at 6:11 PM

Seriously? You need me to provide examples to support my point that a movement that is almost entirely built on restricting abortion and gay marriage (and to a lesser extent since the 80′s, pornography, television, etc.) is interested in infringing on personal freedom?

Armin Tamzarian on March 25, 2013 at 6:04 PM

Yes, I actually do wish you to defend your position. You’re an obvious liberal. So, yes–defend it. Tell us all why and how it’s so cool with YOU to murder unborn babies, and what is so ‘dignified’ about one guy taking into his rectum the organ of another guy.

Tell us all about the ‘beauty’ of all of that.

Liam on March 25, 2013 at 6:13 PM

Gay marriage- Should be a state issue.. Taken out of SOCONS hands by the judiciary. It is by nature BIG GOVERNMENT. You are asking the government to license a private relationship. You are asking the government for PERMISSION to marry your partner.

Abortion- Again should have been left a state issue. Taken out of socons hands by liberals. It is a medical procedure which are routinely banned by the FDA and HHS, but I don’t see you on here bit&hing about all the EUropean cancer treatments that we can’t get in the United States- You only care about the ability for some chick to kill her own child..

Go watch all the frickin porn and tv you want..Keep off public places my children may have access to.

What else do you want to know.

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 6:08 PM

I don’t know why you think touting your supposed federalist inclinations has any relevance to this discussion. Even if you feel that these things should be state issues (many, even most social “conservatives” do not; there’s a reason the GOP platform still includes support for constitutional bans on abortion and gay marriage), I’m sure you still would like to see them banned at the state level. That’s still, unambiguously, an infringement on personal freedoms, whether or not it’s consistent with a federalist interpretation of the Constitution. At least Bloomy is honest about his intentions and his indifferent attitude towards personal freedom. Socons never are.

Armin Tamzarian on March 25, 2013 at 6:15 PM

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