Mike Bloomberg: “I do think there are certain times we should infringe on your freedom”

posted at 4:41 pm on March 25, 2013 by Allahpundit

Ben Howe’s right that the rhetoric here is more notable than the underlying sentiment. Most pols would never be this blunt in describing the civil-libertarian price of new regulations; they’d either dodge the subject or sell those regs in an Orwellian way as an enhancement of freedom. Not Bloomy. The combination of being term-limited, governing one of the bluest cities in America, and being worth $20 billion affords him a candor that lesser nannies can only dream of. Just imagine: On Friday, this guy was heard publicly lamenting the growing threat of domestic drone surveillance — and not without reason — before throwing up his hands and insisting there’s nothing we can do to stop them. Really? He’s willing to spend his political capital in office on dopey things like soda portions and his financial capital on ad campaigns arbitrarily slamming “assault weapons” to the tune of tens of millions of dollars, but there’s nothing he can do to try to put the brakes on the surveillance state? That’s Bloomberg’s whole problem in a nutshell: He’s constantly playing small ball. He could have devoted his first two terms as mayor to bolstering the city’s hurricane defenses or improving its electrical grid, but instead he wanted to bear down on trans fats and smoking in bars. Even where I disagree with him, his moves make no sense. If you’re willing to spend $50 million or more to shape public opinion on guns, why would you focus on background checks and “assault weapons” rather than to try to do real damage by putting a dent in support for semiautomatics generally? It’s bizarre.

Howe’s right too that his use of pronouns in the clip is revealing. Who’s the “we” and who’s the “you” in “your freedoms”? If “we” get to regulate “your” obesity because, after all, we have to pay for part of the cost to treat it, what other behaviors do “we” get to regulate in the name of saving some money? To find out, watch the second clip below (via Mediaite) in which Coulter floats a proposal that wouldn’t go over as well with Bloomy’s very liberal allies. Or, if you don’t like that one, how about Nick Gillespie’s proposal to ban skiing? There’s no limit to the things we could prohibit in the name of cost-cutting. Which, of course, is the problem.

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“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” ~ C.S. Lewis

SpiderMike on March 26, 2013 at 8:44 AM

The obvious question to the Mayor:

When do we – the American public – get to infringe on your rights?

Unlike you, we’ll put it up for referendum. But you must remember that to “infringe” means the public gets to take something you don’t want to give up because if you’re willing to give it up it’s not really an infringement, is it?

EdmundBurke247 on March 26, 2013 at 8:47 AM

Dear lord just move to Europe already you socialist tyrant. We don’t work that way here. They never learn.

RDE2010 on March 26, 2013 at 9:01 AM

I have senn it noted it some other comments – but actually based upon Bloomy’s notion any state endorsement of gay relationships whatsoever is a health risk – and therefore should be illegal. So gay marriage isn’t a federalist issue – work with me Armin since you like bossing people around just don’t like it when it is done to you – it is a public health and federal health care entitlment issue.

Additionally – just to make sure we are treating heteros equally – doesn’t childbirth cost money? I mean, hey, it costs alot of money to have kids and that takes critical health care dollars away from more important things, like exams to prove you are disabled under the SS statutes so you can fed $$ for disability when your UC payments runnout.

So we should make childbirth illegal too.

Good – pretty soon we can wipe ourselves out on the altar of PC.

Zomcon JEM on March 26, 2013 at 9:17 AM

I hate – I mean really loathe – politicians. All of them. Unless they are protecting my freedom to their very last breath, they are worthless.

beatcanvas on March 26, 2013 at 9:44 AM

His time in office cannot END soon enough for all of us.

Amazingoly on March 26, 2013 at 9:47 AM

Bloomberg just speaks the “truth” to the powerless. This is what the east and west coast libs really think. This is what the unions really think. I am rapidly becoming of the opinion that maybe we should tell them to go on their own way, have their own country with their own rules, and then maybe we can have a free United States again. Hey folks. This guy is a hero to the libs. Heed what he says and what the libs have in store for you.

Old Country Boy on March 26, 2013 at 10:08 AM

Our founding fathers are rolling over in their graves.

sadatoni on March 26, 2013 at 10:23 AM

This wannabe tin pot dictator is truely dangerous. He must never attain national office.

ronsfi on March 26, 2013 at 10:49 AM

So even though Bloomberg is a tiny dictator, his citizens did vote for him & they can have him.

Badger40 on March 26, 2013 at 8:35 AM

I absolutely agree. I still think conservatives can use Bloomberg as a hammer to show the populace how much liberals want to control their lives though. I mean it is all well and good to have Daddy state pay for you, but when daddy state expects obedience is when people start rebelling.

melle1228 on March 26, 2013 at 10:55 AM

Stairs are dangerous, so no homes should have more than 1 floor.

Sitting for too long is dangerous, so we should outlaw white-collar jobs.

Cars are dangerous, so nobody should own a car.

Too much knowledge is a dangerous thing, so we should end public education.

In the end, put everybody in a 10×10 cell, we’d all be safer.

Bloomberg might not advocate all of this yet, but it’s just a few more nudges to the placement of his line. After all, it’s for the greater good!

hawksruleva on March 26, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Poor MeMe is either too dumb to see past her mission statement or she’s intentionally resisting Coulter’s efforts to show where the social-insurance-monopoly line of reasoning leads. Practically speaking, it leads to the obliteration of the harm principle (because everything A does affects B), and with it a big chunk of scope for human autonomy. Coulter’s smart enough to know that enforcement of the new restrictions will be, er, selective.

And that bit about “two kinds of nannies” — pathetic.

DrSteve on March 26, 2013 at 12:32 PM

melle1228 on March 26, 2013 at 10:55 AM

EXACTLY.
Each state being an experiment in government.
When one experiment goes horribly wrong, it serves as a learning experience for others.
As this country was intended.
State sovereignty.

Badger40 on March 26, 2013 at 12:35 PM

I absolutely agree. I still think conservatives can use Bloomberg as a hammer to show the populace how much liberals want to control their lives though. I mean it is all well and good to have Daddy state pay for you, but when daddy state expects obedience is when people start rebelling.

melle1228 on March 26, 2013 at 10:55 AM

Ya funny how that works similar but different at the macro and micro levels.
My boys wanted out of our house to get away from our rules, but still wanted us to support them. Then when one needed to move back in to get free rent for awhile, he got mad when we said he had to live by our rules again.

dentarthurdent on March 26, 2013 at 12:52 PM

The obvious question to the Mayor:

When do we – the American public – get to infringe on your rights?

Unlike you, we’ll put it up for referendum. But you must remember that to “infringe” means the public gets to take something you don’t want to give up because if you’re willing to give it up it’s not really an infringement, is it?

EdmundBurke247 on March 26, 2013 at 8:47 AM

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I don’t know how many nominations for “thread winner” we’ve had, but this one has got to be added to the list.

listens2glenn on March 26, 2013 at 1:46 PM

I can’t get ammo. Glad I have some stockpiled. I have to start handloading. Lee loader.

wolly4321 on March 25, 2013 at 8:48 PM
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Shhhh . . . not so loud . . . . . . . . . the government will start buying up all of the powder and primers, next.

listens2glenn on March 25, 2013 at 9:01 PM

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Pssst……they already did.

Just try to find small caliber rifle primers. Casings?? Just about impossible.

Talon on March 26, 2013 at 5:48 AM

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( expletive ) ! ! !

listens2glenn on March 26, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Jesus just GTFO already.

No one is interested in a word of your pontificating.

How about, you know, actually governing? Too hard?

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on March 26, 2013 at 3:11 PM

The likes of Michael Bloomberg is precisely why the Second Amendment is part of our Constitution.

Sic semper tyrannis.

Anti-Statist on March 26, 2013 at 4:23 PM

SO its ok to wipe your butt with our Constitution ‘some’ of the time? uh….no.

johnnyU on March 26, 2013 at 6:45 PM

I’m not necessarily in disagreement on that part, but when you start asking where in the Constitution there is a right to X, you have to recognize that Amendment X is there specifically to answer that question.

MadisonConservative on March 25, 2013 at 7:17 PM

But the tenth . . .

The tenth says that if you are looking for a right and it isn’t here, the federal government has not been given that right, and it remains with either the state, if the people have given it to the state, or with the individual people, if the people have reserved it to themselves. That’s a little hacky, but slack me a little so I can try to make this point:

It doesn’t say what the set of rights are, it doesn’t enumerate them. Put another way, it doesn’t say that anything a person can think of, something they would like to do, is a right.

There’s nothing about the tenth that presupposes any individual or tier of government has the right to end any child’s life at any time, for example. They might exist, such rights, but the tenth wouldn’t know. It assumes rights exist inherently with mankind, with or without written law, and it doesn’t try to define what a right might be.

Axe on March 26, 2013 at 6:46 PM

Mike, I do think there are certain times when you should mind your own f***ing business and this is one of them!! I know there are millions of Americans that agree with me so just put a sock in it and keep your big mouth shut!!

Jersey Dan on March 26, 2013 at 7:44 PM

So we should make childbirth illegal too.

Good – pretty soon we can wipe ourselves out on the altar of PC.

Zomcon JEM on March 26, 2013 at 9:17 AM

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I see you understand “Agenda 21″, already.

Very good … carry on.

listens2glenn on March 26, 2013 at 10:59 PM

TOPEKA — The Kansas Senate is preparing to take final action on a bill expanding the number of public buildings where concealed weapons are allowed and letting public school and college employees carry concealed firearms.

Wednesday’s vote would determine whether the measure passes and goes to the House.

The bill backed by gun-rights advocates comes as federal officials consider new gun-control measures following a deadly mass shooting at a Newtown, Conn., elementary school in December.

J_Crater on March 27, 2013 at 4:29 PM

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