Mark Warner: Hang on a sec, I’m pro-gay marriage now too

posted at 6:41 pm on March 25, 2013 by Allahpundit

You ready for this? Time magazine was prepared to publish a story noting that Warner’s position on SSM remains unclear because his office responded ambiguously when pressed for comment last week. At which point a panicky Warner (he’s up for reelection next year, remember) rushed out a statement on Facebook insisting that, indeed, he too has “evolved” — and yes, he did use that word. Apparently the fact that a prominent Democrat has not yet formally changed his stance on gay marriage now qualifies as breaking news worthy of a hastily composed official response.

Way to deny a guy his very own day of attaboy back-slapping from progressives, Time. Now he has to share the limelight with fellow cynical careerist Claire McCaskill.

“I support marriage equality because it is the fair and right thing to do,” he said in an emailed statement to TIME. “Like many Virginians and Americans, my views on gay marriage have evolved, and this is the inevitable extension of my efforts to promote equality and opportunity for everyone.”

“I was proud to be the first Virginia governor to extend anti-discrimination protections to LGBT state workers,” he continued. “In 2010, I supported an end to the military’s ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ policy, and earlier this month I signed an amicus brief urging the repeal of DOMA. I believe we should continue working to expand equal rights and opportunities for all Americans.”…

Last week, a spokesman in Warner’s office told TIME that opposition to gay marriage was no longer the Senator’s position, but declined to elaborate. On Monday, TIME told Warner’s office that it was preparing a story on his public position on marriage. Hours later, Warner posted a statement announcing his reversal on Facebook and in an emailed statement to TIME.

That makes sense because he has more to fear at this point from liberals in the primary than from the general electorate. As Time notes, his Virginia colleague Tim Kaine endorsed gay marriage two months before the election last year and won anyway. Warner might also be thinking about 2016 if Hillary doesn’t run, and it’s really no longer enough for a Democrat with national ambitions to support SSM. He can’t be seen dragging his feet too much in announcing his “evolution,” as apparently there are just 11 Democrat senators left who have yet to endorse gay marriage. And of those 11, only four told Time when asked that they remain firmly opposed to legalization: Mark Pryor, who’s up next year in a very red state; Joe Manchin, who won’t be up until 2018 but who risks being punished even then by voters in his own very red state; Heidi Heitkamp, who just got elected for the first time in a very red state and probably doesn’t want to be seen as “evolving” quite so quickly; and Tim Johnson, who hails from the very red state next door to Heitkamp’s. Of the four, only Johnson’s views can be safely regarded as heartfelt. He’s reportedly set to announce his retirement tomorrow so he has nothing to lose in stating his true views now.

Exit question: The other seven Dems in the process of “evolving” are Bob Casey, Bill Nelson, Jon Tester, Tom Carper, Kay Hagan, Mary Landrieu, and Joe Donnelly. Who’s next? Gotta be Carper, the guy from the bluest state of those seven, right?


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Democrat opportunist on aisle 1– Paging Democrat opportunist on aisle 1

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 6:42 PM

I’m taking bets that the next one will be a squishy Repub like McCain or Graham.. Whose with me?

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 6:43 PM

Exit question: The other seven Dems in the process of “evolving” are Bob Casey, Bill Nelson, Jon Tester, Tom Carper, Kay Hagan, Mary Landrieu, and Joe Donnelly. Who’s next? Gotta be Carper, the guy from the bluest state of those seven, right?

Pro-abortion Catholic Bob Casey, Jr. (Dullard-PA), can’t be too far down the list.

steebo77 on March 25, 2013 at 6:44 PM

Evolving into what? Some species of mollusc?

squint on March 25, 2013 at 6:44 PM

The Gay Lobby is Powerful.

portlandon on March 25, 2013 at 6:44 PM

AP: I got a caption for what ever your QOTD will be

So Gay

in Spanish
Lol!

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on March 25, 2013 at 6:45 PM

I’m taking bets that the next one will be a squishy Repub like McCain or Graham.. Whose with me?

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 6:43 PM

Graham will wait until after 2014. I could see Collins or Murkowski being one of the next Republicans. Possibly Mark Kirk.

steebo77 on March 25, 2013 at 6:45 PM

McCain already does…I’m sure he’ll make his formal and public announcement very soon…so does Lindsay

Redford on March 25, 2013 at 6:46 PM

The Dictator of relativism strikes again.

Gatekeeper on March 25, 2013 at 6:47 PM

I’m taking bets that the next one will be a squishy Repub like McCain or Graham.. Whose with me?
melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 6:43 PM

Aren’t they already? You know mrs McCain is not touching that old thing. Imagine graham and McCain making out? EEEEWWWWW!!!!

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on March 25, 2013 at 6:47 PM

Next their gonna want bromances legally recognized for guys who put bros before hos, lol.

abobo on March 25, 2013 at 6:48 PM

Only a Walking Dead thread will dilute the Gay threads posted here today.

portlandon on March 25, 2013 at 6:50 PM

Yes by all means lets put the emphasis on gay marriage gun control and amnesty…Pay no attention to the economy behind that curtain…

sandee on March 25, 2013 at 6:51 PM

Next their gonna want bromances legally recognized for guys who put bros before hos, lol.

abobo on March 25, 2013 at 6:48 PM

Since the entirety of DC is a syphilitic whorehouse, I don’t see how they can do that.

squint on March 25, 2013 at 6:51 PM

A 2012 Washington Post poll found that 49% of Virginians favored the legalization of same-sex marriage, while 40% opposed it and 11% had no opinion.

It is his job to represent the view of his constituents…

Mmm...Burritos on March 25, 2013 at 6:52 PM

portlandon on March 25, 2013 at 6:50 PM

I dunno’, the last episode was kind of, well…you know.

cozmo on March 25, 2013 at 6:52 PM

Hot Air needs to get a pool going. It’s the only way to make this story interesting.

Erich66 on March 25, 2013 at 6:53 PM

It doesn’t matter if every sleazy politician kisses up to the homosexual lobby.

Homosexuality remains an extremely unhealthy lifestyle.

It’s too bad only Ann Coulter has the guts to say so on TV.

itsnotaboutme on March 25, 2013 at 6:53 PM

If only the NRA were as powerful as the gay Mafia…

catmman on March 25, 2013 at 6:53 PM

3% of the population sure can stir things up when they own the media and pop culture…

… Isn’t that right, Justice Roberts?

Seven Percent Solution on March 25, 2013 at 6:53 PM

All trying to influence upcoming SC decision, most likely.

RedRedRice on March 25, 2013 at 6:53 PM

W will break his famous post-presidency silence to back gay marriage soon enough.

happytobehere on March 25, 2013 at 6:54 PM

Hot Air needs to get a pool going. It’s the only way to make this story interesting.

Erich66 on March 25, 2013 at 6:53 PM

A bath house instead of a pool…

catmman on March 25, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Is it me…

… or is it getting hot gay in here?

Seven Percent Solution on March 25, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Supporting gun rights. Backwater hick who is slave to the gajillion a of dollars of the big white rich lobby and if only more money was thrown at the issue people would realize how dumb their position is. In fact, those people should be forced to give up their guns for the good of all.
Supporting gay marriage – a perfect ideological position that is arrived at intellectually through no lobbying dollars and political pressure. Anybody trying to change that position is wasting their money and those who support traditional marriage should be forced to accept the new definition for the good of all…

Do I have it right?

Skywise on March 25, 2013 at 6:55 PM

A 2012 Washington Post poll found that 49% of Virginians favored the legalization of same-sex marriage, while 40% opposed it and 11% had no opinion.

It is his job to represent the view of his constituents…

Mmm…Burritos on March 25, 2013 at 6:52 PM

And like Allah pundit found the polls that said legalization were skewed almost 10 points, because people generally see the word legalization with arrest and law. And nobody wants gays arrested for getting married. Ask them if they support same sex marriage and the poll goes down 10 points.

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Only a Walking Dead thread will dilute the Gay threads posted here today.

portlandon on March 25, 2013 at 6:50 PM

The marathon starts tonight at 8 pm. I am soooo there.

John the Libertarian on March 25, 2013 at 6:57 PM

3% of the population sure can stir things up when they own the media and pop culture…

… Isn’t that right, Justice Roberts?

Seven Percent Solution on March 25, 2013 at 6:53 PM

yes,

“A little leaven, leavens the whole lump”

b1jetmech on March 25, 2013 at 6:58 PM

I’m still just shaking my head that we’ve come to the point in this country where we are basing our electoral choices and decisions on how the candidates “feel” about how an unbelievably small percentage of citizens choose to achieve an orgasm.

Tim Zank on March 25, 2013 at 7:00 PM

I’m taking bets that the next one will be a squishy Repub like McCain or Graham.. Whose with me?

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 6:43 PM

Flimsy Graham won’t be evolving until after he faces the voters in 2014. McCain will probably evolve pretty soon.

TarheelBen on March 25, 2013 at 7:01 PM

It will be fun when they come out for Sharia law that hangs gays to prevent war with Iran. Some will say Iran is not an enemy of freedom on the same day they hang some gay kids just for being gay.

tjexcite on March 25, 2013 at 7:01 PM

Tepid Gas.
All Homo.
All the time.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on March 25, 2013 at 7:02 PM

% of the population sure can stir things up when they own the media and pop culture…

… Isn’t that right, Justice Roberts?

Seven Percent Solution on March 25, 2013 at 6:53 PM

woman from California says she and her lesbian partner will attend the gay marriage argument at the Supreme Court, courtesy of her cousin, Chief Justice John Roberts.

Jean Podrasky says she and Roberts are first cousins, and that he knows she is gay

Podrasky tells the Los Angeles Times that she will be in a seat reserved for guests of the justices when the court hears the highly anticipated case on California’s ban on same-sex marriage.

In a separate open letter, Podrasky writes that Roberts is “a good man” and that she is confident he knows that a ruling “in favor of equality” is in line with the views of most Americans.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/chief-justice-roberts-gay-cousin-says-she-will-attend-high-court-hearing-on-same-sex-marriage/2013/03/25/9c28360a-9586-11e2-95ca-dd43e7ffee9c_story.html

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 7:02 PM

Homosexuality remains an extremely unhealthy lifestyle.

If you disagree, you do so on the basis of emotion, not facts.
Here are the facts (lots of them):

http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=Is01B1

itsnotaboutme on March 25, 2013 at 7:03 PM

I’m taking bets that the next one will be a squishy Repub like McCain or Graham.. Whose with me?

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 6:43 PM

Susan Collins is inevitable, so let’s just ignore her evolution. My bet would be Murkowski of Alaska will be the next Repub (ignoring Collins).

thuja on March 25, 2013 at 7:03 PM

I really don’t care what kind of “sex” people choose to have, but I do care that I have to celebrate it….

sandee on March 25, 2013 at 7:04 PM

And like Allah pundit found the polls that said legalization were skewed almost 10 points, because people generally see the word legalization with arrest and law. And nobody wants gays arrested for getting married. Ask them if they support same sex marriage and the poll goes down 10 points.

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Or just visit UnskewdPolls.com/topics/damnhomos for an accurate picture.

lester on March 25, 2013 at 7:05 PM

That Big Pink Bandwagon is going to break an axle from all the opportunistic pile-ons.

profitsbeard on March 25, 2013 at 7:07 PM

Or just visit UnskewdPolls.com/topics/damnhomos for an accurate picture.

lester on March 25, 2013 at 7:05 PM

And this is why we can’t have nice stuff. ^^^^

Who left the light on and let the liberal in?

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 7:08 PM

I’m taking bets that the next one will be a squishy Repub like McCain or Graham.. Whose with me?

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 6:43 PM

Lindsey’s practically a girl already.

squint on March 25, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Susan Collins is inevitable, so let’s just ignore her evolution. My bet would be Murkowski of Alaska will be the next Repub (ignoring Collins).

thuja on March 25, 2013 at 7:03 PM

I think Collins would probably be okay for her state. Alaskans are odd ducks.. Not sure that they would care either..

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 7:09 PM

kinda surprised that tester hasn’t come out already; though he just got reelected. the guy is very liberal.

IR-MN on March 25, 2013 at 7:09 PM

Is it me…

… or is it getting hot gay in here?

Seven Percent Solution on March 25, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Anthropogenic Global Gay Warming

fourdeucer on March 25, 2013 at 7:09 PM

Only a Walking Dead thread will dilute the Gay threads posted here today.

portlandon on March 25, 2013 at 6:50 PM

What’s the difference, really?

Myron Falwell on March 25, 2013 at 7:10 PM

Anthropogenic Global Gay Warming

fourdeucer on March 25, 2013 at 7:09 PM

Global Warming has probably been less successful in the media than gay warming. :)

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 7:10 PM

Just so we are all on the same page and to bring newcomers up to speed: Chaz Bono only chopped off her breasts. He/she still has a biscuit. Okay? Alrighty then, carry on.

GhoulAid on March 25, 2013 at 7:13 PM

Gutless turds doing the easy thing as usual. When it would have taken courage to proclaim a support for SSM, they stayed quiet but now thats its the cause of the day and QUOTE popular UNQUOTE, they are jumping on the bandwagon quicker than Ted Kennedy out of a sinking car.

Its typical, disgusting, spineless, and they will all get away with it, suffer zero negative impact in future elections, and continue to run this country off a cliff.

Another day, another sign that America is no longer the great country i was born in….

alecj on March 25, 2013 at 7:13 PM

I’m waiting for Manchin to put a .30-06 Springfield through DOMA.

If he doesn’t, he’ll be the last man standing and, at that point, will become a Republican by default.

lol

Resist We Much on March 25, 2013 at 7:14 PM

Who left the light on and let the liberal in?

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Can’t be helped, the leech is always here. He has no other life.

cozmo on March 25, 2013 at 7:14 PM

It is his job to represent the view of his constituents…

Mmm…Burritos on March 25, 2013 at 6:52 PM

Funny how selective they are on what views they decide to represent.

All trying to influence upcoming SC decision, most likely.

RedRedRice on March 25, 2013 at 6:53 PM

Yep. We saw the same pressure before the ObamaCare decision.

changer1701 on March 25, 2013 at 7:15 PM

Oh FFS, Allah, why? Why must this subject be posted about multiple times a week, even sometimes a day, on this website? I understand this topic is very much part of the zeitgeist at the moment in Western politics, but it’s been beat to death here. Every post follows the same pattern, and we know all of the people’s opinions involved.

You and Jazz don’t see a problem with gay marriage as long as there are religious protections, and you both point to the hypocritical nature of Dems “evolving” on the subject and the treatment the media gives them. Ed would rather marriage be not in the government at all, but falls down on the side of not having SSM marriage if that’s the only choice, while Erika and Mary Katharine don’t seem interested in posting on it at all having written a post for it a grand total of one time combined.

Commentators (like SWalker, melle1228, MellonCollie, and kingjester) are vehemently against gay marriage, citing various religious, moral, and historical reasons. They also are pretty upset with various people in the GOP supporting SSM, and it’s pretty clear they represent a sizable proportion, if not majority of the community here.

On other side you have people like JetBoy, who are pro-SSM and have made their opinions known. And naturally there are those that are neither for nor against it, and state so every random comment or so.

My point is is that it had been debated ad nauseam here, and nothing is being added to the conversation. Opinions are not changing, just been restated over and over again. At this point, it really just comes off as trolling and looking for page hits.

TDSE on March 25, 2013 at 7:15 PM

Just so we are all on the same page and to bring newcomers up to speed: Chaz Bono only chopped off her breasts. He/she still has a biscuit. Okay? Alrighty then, carry on.

GhoulAid on March 25, 2013 at 7:13 PM

Did not need the visuals.

squint on March 25, 2013 at 7:16 PM

My point is is that it had been debated ad nauseam here, and nothing is being added to the conversation. Opinions are not changing, just been restated over and over again. At this point, it really just comes off as trolling and looking for page hits.

TDSE on March 25, 2013 at 7:15 PM

Um, just about everything posted here has been debated ad nauseam. What would you suggest is the cut off point for posts? Whatever you decide on a whim is “enough”?

The other option is to ignore the post if you feel it’s beating a dead horse…

changer1701 on March 25, 2013 at 7:18 PM

Another one?

Sheesh… haven’t we had enough gay threads?

What else is there to say…

Scrumpy on March 25, 2013 at 7:18 PM

If my rifle was gay would the dems still ban it?

Rusty Allen on March 25, 2013 at 7:19 PM

Rump ranging is in style now.

Kind of like wearing one of those big clocks around your neck and goofy sunglasses.

acyl72 on March 25, 2013 at 7:19 PM

TDSE on March 25, 2013 at 7:15 PM

Added page hits must be a directive from the Salem Communications brass.

Myron Falwell on March 25, 2013 at 7:20 PM

My point is is that it had been debated ad nauseam here, and nothing is being added to the conversation. Opinions are not changing, just been restated over and over again. At this point, it really just comes off as trolling and looking for page hits.

TDSE on March 25, 2013 at 7:15 PM

I beg to differ. I did offer yesterday to wholeheartedly support SSM if Hotair never posted another gay thread and to even walk Jetboy down the aisle. That was something new.

:)

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 7:21 PM

If my rifle was gay would the dems still ban it?

Rusty Allen on March 25, 2013 at 7:19 PM

Only if it was a shotgun wedding..

cue the bad drum sound.. :)

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 7:21 PM

Just so we are all on the same page and to bring newcomers up to speed: Chaz Bono only chopped off her breasts. He/she still has a biscuit. Okay? Alrighty then, carry on.

GhoulAid on March 25, 2013 at 7:13 PM

That is so bad it’s good.

acyl72 on March 25, 2013 at 7:22 PM

I think a lot of these clowns don’t even remember what they stood for when they were running for office. But whatever the polls are saying today, oh yea, that’s what I’m for too! Warner always has been a phony opportunist, so this is not surprising, him jumping on the “whatever is popular” bandwagon. If the polls were to change tomorrow guess what he’d do?

scalleywag on March 25, 2013 at 7:24 PM

Maybe Hot Air should be renamed Hot Tub.

Paul-Cincy on March 25, 2013 at 7:24 PM

That makes sense because he has more to fear at this point from liberals in the primary than from the general electorate.

How is this POS safe anyway, what the hell is wrong with you people in VA? He voted for Obamacare amongst other outrages that should be political career killers.

gsherin on March 25, 2013 at 7:24 PM

Oh FFS, Allah, why? Why must this subject be posted about multiple times a week, even sometimes a day, on this website?
TDSE on March 25, 2013 at 7:15 PM

They continue till morale improves.

Personally, I like the gay marriage threads. It’s a funny sideshow to the general doom which shall befall the GOP and the Republic.

happytobehere on March 25, 2013 at 7:29 PM

3% of the population sure can stir things up when they own the media and pop culture…

… Isn’t that right, Justice Roberts?

Seven Percent Solution on March 25, 2013 at 6:53 PM

Spot On Thread Winner!

Rovin on March 25, 2013 at 7:30 PM

How is this POS safe anyway, what the hell is wrong with you people in VA? He voted for Obamacare amongst other outrages that should be political career killers.

gsherin on March 25, 2013 at 7:24 PM

Umm, so did Obama and he carried Virginia in 2012.

happytobehere on March 25, 2013 at 7:31 PM

They continue till morale improves.

Personally, I like the gay marriage threads. It’s a funny sideshow to the general doom which shall befall the GOP and the Republic.

happytobehere on March 25, 2013 at 7:29 PM

I don’t even strongly argue in them anymore. I mean what will be will be. SCOTUS will decide at this point whether Obamacare gay marriage is a tax and we all have to pay. I just like to come on and give Thuja and Jetboy a hard time. I post a few things, joke and hang out with all the homophobic cool kids.

:)

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 7:33 PM

How is this POS safe anyway, what the hell is wrong with you people in VA? He voted for Obamacare amongst other outrages that should be political career killers.

gsherin on March 25, 2013 at 7:24 PM

I live in Virginiastan, aka Northern VA. The state has become overrun by Marylanders and DC-ers moving here to evade the high taxes and high living costs that that they voted for which compelled them to move in the first place. Naturally, they get here and continue to vote Democrat.

crrr6 on March 25, 2013 at 7:35 PM

My guess is on Jon Tester.

It's Vintage, Duh on March 25, 2013 at 7:36 PM

If my rifle was gay would the dems still ban it?

Rusty Allen on March 25, 2013 at 7:19 PM

This is fighting
This is for fun

happytobehere on March 25, 2013 at 7:37 PM

crrr6 on March 25, 2013 at 7:35 PM

I should add: this behavior is routine for Democrats all the way up to the halls of congress. Look at John Kerry, Charlie Rangel, Chris Dodd and on and on. They never met a tax hike they didn’t like, and yet they do everything they can to minimize their tax liability, legally or illegally.

crrr6 on March 25, 2013 at 7:39 PM

I’m taking bets that the next one will be a squishy Repub like McCain or Graham.. Whose with me?

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 6:43 PM

Suprisingly, McCain said he doesn’t see himself changing his opinion now, next fall or whenever. I was stunned, because his wife and daughter are more pre-ghey than the Obama’s ever have been, Portman had just come out of his closet, and well, Graham.

Something tells me McCain’s old school on this issue and he doesn’t see any gain in flipping on it.

I mean, he still could, but I don’t think it’s as likely we think.

It might be a holdover for how much shite his family and campaign got from the LGB community in ’08 even though they were all pro-ghey. The LGB’s buried him and castigated his family when, if the guy was prez, they would have had a better chance at national civil union under him than Barry and without reliance on SCOTUS.

budfox on March 25, 2013 at 7:40 PM

@changer1701: My issue here with this posts is that every time it is written about, basically the exact same thing is written with a new politician plugged into the template. Beyond just the tone, it really is the same post with a new name.

As for why I comment on a post that I really am tired of reading instead of just ignoring it, for me it’s a pretty simple idea. I come to HotAir to read conservative opinions, many of which differ from my own. I do so to get a different perspective than how I naturally think. As somebody who is a part of this community, I think expressing that I would rather see this blog spend its time on other topics instead of something that basically amounts to navel-gazing at this point is one way of participating and hoping the contributors here send their time and energy on different topics. Of course Allah et. al. do not have to listen to me, but if a blog success is determined in part by readership levels and comments, I think they would won’t to know when a topic is reaching it’s critical point where it starts to give diminishing returns.

@melle112: I’m sure you and I will never agree on this topic, but it’s nice to see you keeping a sense of humor :-)

TDSE on March 25, 2013 at 7:40 PM

Rump ranging is in style now.

Kind of like wearing one of those big clocks around your neck and goofy sunglasses.

acyl72 on March 25, 2013 at 7:19 PM

Women enjoy it too, you know.

antisense on March 25, 2013 at 7:41 PM

I don’t even strongly argue in them anymore. I mean what will be will be. SCOTUS will decide at this point whether Obamacare gay marriage is a tax and we all have to pay. I just like to come on and give Thuja and Jetboy a hard time. I post a few things, joke and hang out with all the homophobic cool kids.

:)

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 7:33 PM

Agreed. That’s one of the nice things about being ruled by fiat of John Roberts. Our input truly doesn’t matter! Better to just lie back and think of England.

happytobehere on March 25, 2013 at 7:43 PM

Gay marriage is not like taxes. What happens if it’s legalized and things don’t work out so well? Are we gonna unmarry these folks?? And trust me ‘this is just the tip of the iceberg. There’s gonna be more to this story. This nation is being groomed just like predators groom. A little touch here, a little feel there. Pretty soon you have a real problem. But then it’s too late. The damage will be done.

rik on March 25, 2013 at 7:43 PM

@melle112: I’m sure you and I will never agree on this topic, but it’s nice to see you keeping a sense of humor :-)

TDSE on March 25, 2013 at 7:40 PM

That’s okay.. I love Jetboy. And I am growing on Thuja. Give me time. :)

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 7:45 PM

*Meh* When weak willed senators are signing up to support same sex marriage, its a fait accomplit. Can we get Congress to outlaw discrimination against anti LGBT employment discrimination?

libfreeordie on March 25, 2013 at 7:46 PM

Gay marriage is not like taxes. What happens if it’s legalized and things don’t work out so well? Are we gonna unmarry these folks?? And trust me ‘this is just the tip of the iceberg. There’s gonna be more to this story. This nation is being groomed just like predators groom. A little touch here, a little feel there. Pretty soon you have a real problem. But then it’s too late. The damage will be done.

rik on March 25, 2013 at 7:43 PM

We already have a real problem. It is already too late. The damage has been done.

happytobehere on March 25, 2013 at 7:48 PM

Can we get Congress to outlaw discrimination against anti LGBT employment discrimination?

libfreeordie on March 25, 2013 at 7:46 PM

And guarantee equal rights for smokers, overweight people and gun owners?

cozmo on March 25, 2013 at 7:49 PM

Whether or not SCOTUS decrees gay marriage the law of the land, I predict the next step will be chipping away at Christian adoption charities, which basically means shutting them down.

crrr6 on March 25, 2013 at 7:51 PM

rushed out a statement on Facebook insisting that, indeed, he too has “evolved” — and yes, he did use that word. Apparently the fact that a prominent Democrat has not yet formally changed his stance on gay marriage now qualifies as breaking news worthy of a hastily composed official response.
==========================

That .”EVOLVED”,seems to be the Democrat Talking Points
of KOOL_AID InDuced Lock-Stepped Robots,er,Clones,

of Obama’s NeverEnding Morphing Story on Gay Marriage!!

canopfor on March 25, 2013 at 7:53 PM

GOPe: Useful idiots of the Left.

INC on March 25, 2013 at 7:53 PM

We already have a real problem. It is already too late. The damage has been done.

happytobehere on March 25, 2013 at 7:48 PM

I think twenty or thirty years from now this country is gonna

rik on March 25, 2013 at 7:54 PM

There are those on the Left who know exactly what they’re doing and why.

Gay Marriage, Then Group Marriage? by Ryan Anderson, Sherif Girgis and Robert P. George the men who wrote What Is Marriage? Man and Woman: A Defense.

If marriage is just the emotional bond “that matters most” to you — in the revealing words of the circuit judge who struck down California Proposition 8 — then personal tastes or a couple’s subjective preferences aside, there is no reason of principle for marriage to be pledged to permanence. Or sexually exclusive rather than “open.” Or limited to two spouses. Or oriented to family life and shaped by its demands….

But don’t take our word for it. Many prominent leaders of the campaign to redefine marriage make precisely the same point. (We provide many more examples, and full citations, in the amicus brief we filed with the Supreme Court on the harms of redefining marriage.)

University of Calgary Professor Elizabeth Brake supports “minimal marriage,” in which people distribute whichever duties they choose, among however many partners, of whatever sex.

NYU Professor Judith Stacey hopes that redefining marriage would give marriage “varied, creative, and adaptive contours …” and lead to acceptance of “small group marriages.” In the manifesto “Beyond Same-Sex Marriage,” 300 leading “LGBT and allied” scholars and activists call for the recognition of multiple partner relationships.

Influential columnist and “It Gets Better” founder Dan Savage encourages spouses to adopt “a more flexible attitude” about sex outside their marriage. Journalist Victoria Brownworth cheerfully predicts that same-sex marriage will “weaken the institution of marriage.”

“It most certainly will do so,” she says, “and that will make marriage a far better concept than it previously has been.”

Author Michelangelo Signorile urges same-sex partners to “demand the right to marry not as a way of adhering to society’s moral codes but rather to debunk a myth and radically alter an archaic institution.” They should “fight for same-sex marriage and its benefits and then, once granted, redefine the institution of marriage completely, because the most subversive action lesbians and gay men can undertake … is to transform the notion of ‘family’ entirely.”

These leading same-sex marriage advocates are correct.

INC on March 25, 2013 at 7:56 PM

Most of that last comment of mine was a quote. I forgot to use the blockquote.

Here’s a quote from page 70 of their book:

Professor Ellen Willis, another revisionist, celebrates the fact that “conferring the legitimacy of marriage on homosexual relations will introduce an implicit revolt against the institution into its very heart.”

These people understand the definition of marriage better than the GOPe does. They want to drive a stake in it.

INC on March 25, 2013 at 7:58 PM

Pro-Same-Sex “Marriage” Lesbian: “Institution of Marriage Should Not Exist”

In a Stand to Reason blog post titled “Same-Sex Marriage Won’t Be Enough,” journalist and lesbian Masha Gessen is quoted as follows at the Sydney Writers Festival:

It’s a no-brainer that we should have the right to marry, but I also think equally that it’s a no-brainer that the institution of marriage should not exist.

That causes my brain some trouble. And part of why it causes me trouble is because fighting for gay marriage generally involves lying about what we are going to do with marriage when we get there — because we lie that the institution of marriage is not going to change, and that is a lie.

Update — Aug. 6, 2012: Perhaps I might have noted in my post: These frank remarks were given during a panel discussion at the Sidney Writers Festival in Sidney, Australia.

Panel discussions in far away places often do not make news in the U.S. (just as they often do not even when occuring on Capitol Hill). It is possible that the frankness of the response is therefore also related to the relative obscurity of the occasion.

…The ill-described “gay” target is not “traditional marriage” but marriage per se…

INC on March 25, 2013 at 7:59 PM

So, I remember when when having a gay mother was enough to make me something of an outcast at school.
All in all, that was better than the all-out promotion of homosexual behavior going on now.

Count to 10 on March 25, 2013 at 8:04 PM

3% of the population sure can stir things up when they own the media and pop culture…

… Isn’t that right, Justice Roberts?

Seven Percent Solution on March 25, 2013 at 6:53 PM

Seven Percent Solution:

Exactly,with shows like GLEE,and Obama’s NeverEnding Polls,
that are Deceptive/Perceptive,the Libs have Hi-Jacked the NARRATIVE,
———————–:)

canopfor on March 25, 2013 at 8:10 PM

It’s not a coincidence we are getting bombarded with gay marriage and immigration talk. The dems have it on their agenda hence the media is going to talk it up for them. Once the propaganda has propagated through all the channels and been digested by the sheep the carefully worded polls will show that the people support the Democrat’s positions.

Wigglesworth on March 25, 2013 at 8:10 PM

conferring the legitimacy of marriage on homosexual relations will introduce an implicit revolt against the institution into its very heart.”

INC on March 25, 2013 at 7:58 PM

The implicit revolt has already taken place. No-fault divorce has already delegitimized state sanctioned marriage to its very heart. The gay thing is just funny.

happytobehere on March 25, 2013 at 8:11 PM

*Meh* When weak willed senators are signing up to support same sex marriage, its a fait accomplit. Can we get Congress to outlaw discrimination against anti LGBT employment discrimination?

libfreeordie on March 25, 2013 at 7:46 PM

Oppression!

happytobehere on March 25, 2013 at 8:12 PM

So, I remember when when having a gay mother was enough to make me something of an outcast at school.
All in all, that was better than the all-out promotion of homosexual behavior going on now.

Count to 10 on March 25, 2013 at 8:04 PM

Absolute moral authority.™

happytobehere on March 25, 2013 at 8:13 PM

happytobehere on March 25, 2013 at 8:11 PM

I agree that no-fault divorce began this.

INC on March 25, 2013 at 8:13 PM

It amazes me that Hotair posts story after story these days gay marriage…yet when it comes to really important things like illegal immigration, there’s little here.

celt on March 25, 2013 at 8:18 PM

I’d love for a prominent GOP politican to announce his “evolution” on marriage: say he still opposes gay marriage but now supports human-animal marriage.

crrr6 on March 25, 2013 at 8:19 PM

It amazes me that Hotair posts story after story these days gay marriage…yet when it comes to really important things like illegal immigration, there’s little here.

celt on March 25, 2013 at 8:18 PM

You’re joking right? There’s tons of illegal immigration stuff. But it keeps getting in the way of the gay stuff which is a bit disappointing sometimes.

happytobehere on March 25, 2013 at 8:20 PM

I’d love for a prominent GOP politican to announce his “evolution” on marriage: say he still opposes gay marriage but now supports human-animal marriage.

crrr6 on March 25, 2013 at 8:19 PM

LOL– Or even funnier.. They support gay marriage but no longer in good conscience can support heterosexual marriage. :)

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 8:22 PM

I think twenty or thirty years from now this country is gonna [be gone]

rik on March 25, 2013 at 7:54 PM

I give it five years. If that.

What follows may be nothing short of total anarchy.

And that’s what the Socialists want, because they think they can win.

Myron Falwell on March 25, 2013 at 8:24 PM

LOL– Or even funnier.. They support gay marriage but no longer in good conscience can support heterosexual marriage. :)

melle1228 on March 25, 2013 at 8:22 PM

He can add some perfunctory remarks about the parallels to the civil rights movement, how these people (and animals) must be treated equally and how the gay rights bigots need to evolve with the times.

crrr6 on March 25, 2013 at 8:27 PM

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