Open thread: Sunday morning talking heads

posted at 8:01 am on March 24, 2013 by Allahpundit

It’s culture-war Sunday on the chat shows. On the undercard: Rand Paul and Gary Bauer hit “Fox News Sunday” to discuss whether the GOP’s really trending libertarian on social issues while “Face the Nation” offers a roundtable on SCOTUS tackling gay marriage and DOMA. Main event: Bloomberg versus Wayne LaPierre on “Meet the Press.” I assume they’ll be interviewed sequentially, though, not together. David Gregory will, after all, have questions for Bloomy on things he wants to ban besides guns — styrofoam, sodas over 16 ounces, public displays of cigarettes in city stores, whatever else he’s onto now. It’s hard to keep up.

Newt will be on Fox as well to weigh in on modern political history’s greatest counterfactual. The line-up via National Journal:

Meet the Press hosts New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg and NRA CEO Wayne LaPierre

Face the Nation hosts a panel about the SCOTUS arguments on Proposition 8 and DOMA with Family Research Council’s Tony Perkins and others and Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., is on a second panel on foreign policy.

This Week hosts former Obama manager Jim Messina, former Bush adviser Karl Rove and former New Jersey Gov. Jim McGreevey

Fox News Sunday hosts Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., American Values President Gary Bauer and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich.

State of the Union hosts Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki, Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper and California Attorney General Kamala Harris


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Herr Bloomberg, the Kliene Fuhrer.

VorDaj on March 24, 2013 at 8:04 AM

I assume they’ll be interviewed sequentially, though, not together.

I hope so. Otherwise, I was going to wonder how much acid had LaPierre dropped in order to agree to a one-on-one debate with Bloomberg, so close to defeating both the AWB and background checks.

Robert_Paulson on March 24, 2013 at 8:08 AM

Gonna have to miss all the fun this morning. I have a dental appointment. 18 cavities to fill-probably gonna take about 4 hours. If it weren’t for that, I’d probably just jam a freshly sharpened pencil in my eye and call it a day.

Spark Chaser on March 24, 2013 at 8:10 AM

Meet the Press hosts New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg and NRA CEO Wayne LaPierre

How about with Special Guest Moderator Ted Nugent?

My one question to Mayor Nanny-Nation here is why can’t it sink into his wilted brain cells that he can pass all the legislation he wants, all the gun laws he wants, all the background checks he wants, and it will not stop one single solitary criminal from getting a gun in their hand and cause mayhem in one form or another?

Because what Bloomberg can’t seem to grasp in that empty gap between his ears is the concept that criminals DON’T OBEY LAWS! That is why they are CRIMINALS!

A small child can understand that.

Why can’t Bloomberg?

pilamaye on March 24, 2013 at 8:10 AM

Bloomberg hates guns and 2 litre bottles because they’re bigger than he is.

F-ckiing homunculoid tyrant.

Rixon on March 24, 2013 at 8:15 AM

David Gregory will, after all, have questions for Bloomy on things he wants to ban besides guns — styrofoam, sodas over 16 ounces, public displays of cigarettes in city stores, whatever else he’s onto now. It’s hard to keep up.

I vote for women walking around Manhattan in Spandex.

Cleombrotus on March 24, 2013 at 8:15 AM

Definitely sequentially. LaPierre is unlikely to even be in the same city as Bloomberg, let alone the same studio. Among other things, it wouldn’t be possible for the moderator to “moderate” the encounter in Bloomberg’s favor, then.

As for Bloomy, he’ll repeatedly demand that LaPierre’s mike be turned off, on the grounds that only The Great And Powerful Oddlet (himself) is entitled to have an opinion.

On any subject.

clear ether

eon

eon on March 24, 2013 at 8:16 AM

David Gregory will, after all, have questions for Bloomy on things he wants to ban besides guns — styrofoam, sodas over 16 ounces, public displays of cigarettes in city stores, whatever else he’s onto now. It’s hard to keep up.

does he ever do his “mayor” job??

ted c on March 24, 2013 at 8:18 AM

can someone shove mikey b’s head in a big gulp cup and give him a swirlie??

ted c on March 24, 2013 at 8:20 AM

looks like hizzhonor is on a list of things people want “banned”…..

http://sweasel.com/archives/11530#comment-81277

RealMc on March 24, 2013 at 8:25 AM

Face the Nation hosts a panel about the SCOTUS arguments on Proposition 8 and DOMA with Family Research Council’s Tony Perkins and others and Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., is on a second panel on foreign policy.

Two great guys.

I’ll bet the “panels” are stacked with libs.

itsnotaboutme on March 24, 2013 at 8:25 AM

State of the Union hosts Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki, Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper and California Attorney General Kamala Harris

All libs.

State of the Union is tanking. You can correctly interpret that sentence in two ways.

itsnotaboutme on March 24, 2013 at 8:28 AM

does gregory have his magazine clip ready to go again?

softballs for bloomie
interruptions for la pierre

cmsinaz on March 24, 2013 at 8:33 AM

State of the Union is tanking. You can correctly interpret that sentence in two ways.

itsnotaboutme on March 24, 2013 at 8:28 AM

:)

cmsinaz on March 24, 2013 at 8:35 AM

Just once, just once, I would love to see one of these talking heads say to Bloomberg after one of his fantastical decrees, “Are you out of your freakn’ mind?” and then start laughing hysterically.

BetseyRoss on March 24, 2013 at 8:37 AM

F-ckiing homunculoid tyrant.

Rixon on March 24, 2013 at 8:15 AM

In New York, it’s homunculoids all the way down.

tom daschle concerned on March 24, 2013 at 8:40 AM

BetseyRoss on March 24, 2013 at 8:37 AM

Indeed!!!!!!

RealMc on March 24, 2013 at 8:40 AM

OK, if he can’t ban women walking around Manhattan in Spandex then can he at least jail the men who are doing it?

Cleombrotus on March 24, 2013 at 8:42 AM

Behold! The Mayor who bans things!

JellyToast on March 24, 2013 at 8:55 AM

This is what LaPierre should do when Bloomberg goes straight to appeals to emotion

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

tom daschle concerned on March 24, 2013 at 8:57 AM

boy the lsm sure love to say white supremacists….

cmsinaz on March 24, 2013 at 9:03 AM

I read that upon the president’s return from the Middle East he’s going to start campaigning for gun control again. Why not? He’s 3 months into his second term and so far has accomplished nothing. So why not gas up the plane and go on tour?

scalleywag on March 24, 2013 at 9:05 AM

F-ckiing homunculoid tyrant.

Rixon on March 24, 2013 at 8:15 AM

.
Napoleon Complex???

ExpressoBold on March 24, 2013 at 9:08 AM

Behold! The Mayor who bans things!

JellyToast on March 24, 2013 at 8:55 AM

Gets you to wondering if his deodorant of choice is……..wait for it….. BAN!

pilamaye on March 24, 2013 at 9:09 AM

Nicole Wallace is being paid to rant about SSM… by whom?

ExpressoBold on March 24, 2013 at 9:25 AM

the secretary of va sounds scared….

cmsinaz on March 24, 2013 at 9:27 AM

You can bet the mayor will go second, Gregory will always give the liberal the last word and of course Bloomberg will have a huge load of lies to dump on Wayne, which is why Gregory will want the most totalitarian mayor in the country to go last.

Why do liberals care so little for defenseless victims?

Or our civil rights?

Speakup on March 24, 2013 at 9:27 AM

If someone were to stab Bloomberg in the temple with a ball-point pen, I would laugh myself to exhaustion.

S. D. on March 24, 2013 at 9:34 AM

If someone were to …

S. D. on March 24, 2013 at 9:34 AM

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Wouldn’t that make Bloomie a Mini Mart-yr?

ExpressoBold on March 24, 2013 at 9:38 AM

Headline should have read: “Loathsome nanny-state mayor spends $12M to take away your freedom.”

Christian Conservative on March 24, 2013 at 9:40 AM

up next prop 8 on cnn

crowley will bash the prop 8 supporter natch

cmsinaz on March 24, 2013 at 9:41 AM

Justice Kennedy is going to decide the SSM issue for the entire nation, given the ideological split on SCOTUS? That’s taking “one person, one vote” to the extreme.

ExpressoBold on March 24, 2013 at 9:44 AM

gay marriage is a fundamental right!!!

cmsinaz on March 24, 2013 at 9:44 AM

equal protection under the law!

paraphrase-the majority of californians believe in it…..ummm the state voted FOR PROP 8, marriage between one man and one woman twice!

cmsinaz on March 24, 2013 at 9:46 AM

ca attorney general sure sounding like holder

not going to defend the laws she doesn’t like…

cmsinaz on March 24, 2013 at 9:47 AM

Sgt. Chesty! Rrrrrruuuuffff!

ExpressoBold on March 24, 2013 at 9:59 AM

In regards to Bloomberg:

New Yorkers:

Jeebus Cripes people-Have some pride . What are you ? A bunch of little children ? Grow the f*ck up.

CW on March 24, 2013 at 10:02 AM

It is exciting and impressive watching the Chief Bro rolling OK with his NCAA brackets! You rule, Mr. President, but I’m gonna blow by you in the next two days, yessir!

Why not a show on that this Sunday? It would be more interesting than the insipid stuff they are featuring!

As a matter of fact, I think we need to put the economic progress in a format like the NCAA brackets.

Have the states compete like basketball teams and then make the pols pick which ones are going to do well on getting unemployment down, getting people off food stamps, foreclosure rates and other and then make our POTUS host the Winning state’s officials at the White House.

Of course, that assumes that anyone actually wants a better economy and GDP figures.

I am silly though. How important is 20 million people deprived of a shot at self reliance compared to a bunch of college kids tossing a ball through a hoop?

IlikedAUH2O on March 24, 2013 at 10:04 AM

up next prop 8 on cnn

crowley will bash the prop 8 supporter natch

cmsinaz on March 24, 2013 at 9:41 AM

I bet Chris Farley could do a good Crowley impression if he were still with us.

His best was being Mindy Cohn in a sketch about the child stars gang. Makes me miss Phil Hartman too.

tom daschle concerned on March 24, 2013 at 10:07 AM

tom daschle concerned on March 24, 2013 at 10:07 AM

you know it

la pierre getting interrupted by gregory….

are you thrawting the will of the american people because all these polls say they support checks?

cmsinaz on March 24, 2013 at 10:20 AM

gregory just itching for la pierre to support something…

cmsinaz on March 24, 2013 at 10:22 AM

Gonna have to miss all the fun this morning. I have a dental appointment. 18 cavities to fill-probably gonna take about 4 hours. If it weren’t for that, I’d probably just jam a freshly sharpened pencil in my eye and call it a day.

Spark Chaser on March 24, 2013 at 8:10 AM

.
Okay, I chuckled … : )

listens2glenn on March 24, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Messina.. the “dude” needs a dentist really bad.

If my teeth looked like that I’d drink a fifth of Jack and knock them all out with a ball peen hammer. Or swallow a .45.

wolly4321 on March 24, 2013 at 10:30 AM

ca attorney general sure sounding like holder

not going to defend the laws she doesn’t like…

cmsinaz on March 24, 2013 at 9:47 AM

Very dangerous for her to try that, unlike Holder.

When CA passed its CCW law in 1993, LA county and LAPD both flatly refused to issue permits. As the sheriff put it, “We think there are too many guns out there now.”

Unfortunately for them, the law was a “shall issue”, not “may issue” type. And they were immediately taken to court. The CA superior court ordered them to comply, on the grounds that a locality, or even a state official, may not supersede a law passed by the legislature and duly authorized by the governor.

Most Democrat CA legislators (I know, redundant phrase) might not like the CCW law, or this law, as they are written. But no court is going to let any official ignore a law just because they don’t like it.

If the legislators and governor don’t like it, their job is to repeal it. The fact that they haven’t indicates that doing so carries some serious political risk, even in CA.

I know, I know, “sanctuary cities”. But up to now, there have been no effective court challenges of those cities’ violations of Federal immigration laws. Which they’ve gotten away with so far solely due to the sympathetic inaction of… Eric Holder & Co.

When and if the legal challenges do come, it will be the classic “rock and a hard place” situation for a lot of the lawyers involved, both at the tables and on the bench. Because most of them, I’m willing to bet, are at least “open borders” advocates, if not out-and-out “Absolut World” dreamers;

http://bigthink.com/strange-maps/264-an-absolut-mexico

This bears watching. It could get interesting for CA. In the sense of the old Chinese curse, that is.

clear ether

eon

eon on March 24, 2013 at 10:30 AM

I’m shocked LaPierre went second and Gregory actually gave him room to talk!

It was good.

Speakup on March 24, 2013 at 10:30 AM

I really don’t want my gubmint legislating based on rigged polls. How many states hwve voted on SSM? Even in CA. Gun rights? The 2A isn’t a poll.

2 wolves and a sheep deciding what’s for dinner and such.

We have to beat back this false narrative that we are democracy. We aren’t.

wolly4321 on March 24, 2013 at 10:38 AM

I don’t know if I got this quite right, but Newt just said something to this effect:

“How did we get to the point where a handful of judges by a 5-4 decision get to change the law like a Constitutional Convention?”

I’ll tell you how. We started appointing judges who thought they were smarter than the founding fathers and all the judges who went before them, who thought their job was to make the law instead of interpreting the law, and were willing to create new law from whole cloth to enact their agendas.

“Penumbras” anyone?

novaculus on March 24, 2013 at 10:47 AM

eon on March 24, 2013 at 10:30 AM

good point…

wolly4321 on March 24, 2013 at 10:38 AM

boy the lsm really honing in on ONE poll…how skewed is it…

poor ralph reed against 4 libs (including brooks)

cmsinaz on March 24, 2013 at 10:54 AM

3 hours and less than 50 comments?

If Hot Gas discontinued this thread, no one would miss it.

22044 on March 24, 2013 at 11:03 AM

In regards to Bloomberg:

New Yorkers:

Jeebus Cripes people-Have some pride . What are you ? A bunch of little children ? Grow the f*ck up.

CW on March 24, 2013 at 10:02 AM

He lied about wanting only 2 terms and bought off the City Council to allow him to go for a third. The leftists hate him almost as much as what’s left of the normal folk (like me) in NYC. I’m out of here as soon as I can.

Rixon on March 24, 2013 at 11:21 AM

If Hot Gas discontinued this thread, no one would miss it.

22044 on March 24, 2013 at 11:03 AM

FIFY.

Rixon on March 24, 2013 at 11:21 AM

If Hot Gas discontinued this thread, no one would miss it.

22044 on March 24, 2013 at 11:03 AM

FIFY.

Rixon on March 24, 2013 at 11:21 AM

.
Then just why are you are here ? Lose something ?

Think, before you type.

FlaMurph on March 24, 2013 at 11:39 AM

22044- yea, but following the enemy has its value. Very often you see the upcoming narrative.

I don’t like that they set the narrative, but they do. You can’t beat it back if you ignore it.

Puss-boy messina was on. Odd as he is, he ‘s a big player.ofa.

In a real world, I’d slap him silly and move on. But were not in a real world.

It’s 1984. the pigs are speaking.

wolly4321 on March 24, 2013 at 11:50 AM

…HE11 NO…!!!…None of them!…These aren’t news programs!

KOOLAID2 on March 24, 2013 at 12:08 PM

I hate to say it, and do so only in jest, but Bloomberg and Buffett are good arguments for high taxes on the rich.

Too much money apparently causes senility.

EdmundBurke247 on March 24, 2013 at 12:10 PM

22044- yea, but following the enemy has its value. Very often you see the upcoming narrative.

I don’t like that they set the narrative, but they do. You can’t beat it back if you ignore it.

Puss-boy messina was on. Odd as he is, he ‘s a big player.ofa.

In a real world, I’d slap him silly and move on. But were not in a real world.

It’s 1984. the pigs are speaking.

wolly4321 on March 24, 2013 at 11:50 AM

Fair points. I would just say that they set the narrative the other 6 days of the week – on those days I welcome content that beats it back.

We gotta watch OFA. I think they’ll eventually fade like OWS but we can’t assume that yet.

22044 on March 24, 2013 at 1:06 PM

cmsinaz on March 24, 2013

….you’re the masochist for me!…I can’t watch morning shows any more…I would be the first person ever convicted of assaulting a television screen!…I can get the gist of things when you are around…thanks for being there!

KOOLAID2 on March 24, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Then just why are you are here ? Lose something ?

Think, before you type.

FlaMurph on March 24, 2013 at 11:39 AM

Hilarious! Well played!

22044 on March 24, 2013 at 1:07 PM

I hate to say it, and do so only in jest, but Bloomberg and Buffett are good arguments for high taxes on the rich.

Too much money apparently causes senility.

EdmundBurke247 on March 24, 2013 at 12:10 PM

…in jest?…there’s cause for a study!…look at Senator Senile and Kerry…they married money and what happened?…look at Hollywood?…you could be senile in your 20′s, 30′s and 40′s already!

KOOLAID2 on March 24, 2013 at 1:11 PM

The Nanny Staters want a Big Gulp our our liberties.

Screw the Bloom and his cabal of nosy numbskulls.

profitsbeard on March 24, 2013 at 2:20 PM

How come the taxpayers don’t ‘pitchfork’ the tiny Hitler of New York?

With what authority does he spend multi-millions for ads against guns?

Schadenfreude on March 24, 2013 at 2:29 PM

With what authority does he spend multi-millions for ads against guns?

Schadenfreude on March 24, 2013 at 2:29 PM

…progressive peonage?…from the penile panache!

KOOLAID2 on March 24, 2013 at 2:47 PM

If Bloomie can spend $12 Million to try to elimnate my God given right, enumerated in the Bill of Rights as the 2nd Amendment, I can promote the idea that someone skilled in the sniper arts should place 72 grains of steel and copper into his dictatorial skull…or he could contract a wickid case of Novovirus.
Does he have a food taster?
Just sayin…
III/0317

dirtengineer on March 24, 2013 at 3:53 PM

When CA passed its CCW law in 1993, LA county and LAPD both flatly refused to issue permits. As the sheriff put it, “We think there are too many guns out there now.”

Unfortunately for them, the law was a “shall issue”, not “may issue” type. And they were immediately taken to court. The CA superior court ordered them to comply, on the grounds that a locality, or even a state official, may not supersede a law passed by the legislature and duly authorized by the governor.

Most Democrat CA legislators (I know, redundant phrase) might not like the CCW law, or this law, as they are written. But no court is going to let any official ignore a law just because they don’t like it.

If the legislators and governor don’t like it, their job is to repeal it. The fact that they haven’t indicates that doing so carries some serious political risk, even in CA.

They do not have to repeal it because the 18 counties that do not easily issue CCWs use the “Good Cause” statements against potential permit holders. Part of that stems from the fact that we do not have Shall Issue in CA, but May issue to give the sheriffs some discretion. They demand a certain criteria of good cause to issue, but do not readily let citizens know what that might include. There is currently a case moving through the federal system McKay v Hutchens, that challenges the SHEriff of Orange County and her lack of issuance. Small steps, even out here in Kalifornia.

InTheBellyoftheBeast on March 24, 2013 at 5:18 PM

Background checks for purchasing guns has been in existence for decades and not just handguns either. Back in the 50′s thugs were making their own guns and they were called Zip Guns at the time.

mixplix on March 25, 2013 at 8:39 AM