Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on March 22, 2013 by Allahpundit

Democrats celebrated the third anniversary of the passage of President Obama’s signature health-care legislation on Friday by voting down a Republican amendment to repeal the entire law.

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz’s amendment repealing Obamacare failed to pass the Democratic-controlled Senate on Friday, receiving 45 ayes and 54 nays. The amendment was attached to the Senate Democratic budget resolution for 2014…

“Tomorrow is the three-year anniversary of the passage of Obamacare,” Cruz said on the floor before the vote. “Obamacare is hurting young people. It’s hurting seniors. It’s hurting Hispanics. It’s hurting African-Americans. It’s hurting single moms. It’s hurting the economy. It should be repealed.”

***

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said that her party “honor[ed] the vows of our Founders” in passing Obamacare during a statement to mark the imminent third anniversary of the law’s passage.

“I see this as honoring the vows of our Founders, who sacrificed everything for life, liberty, pursuit of happiness,” Pelosi told reporters today. “Here we have a healthier life [and] the liberty to pursue your happiness — whether it’s to be a cameraman, a writer, self-employed, start your own business, change jobs, not be job-locked because of health care; whether you have a preexisting condition in your family or just [lack] the ability to afford access to health care.”

***

Big government likes big providers. That’s why ObamaCare is gradually making the local doctor-owned medical practice a relic. In the not too distant future, most physicians will be hourly wage earners, likely employed by a hospital chain.

Why? Because when doctors practice in small offices, it is hard for Washington to regulate what they do. There are too many of them, and the government is too remote. It is far easier for federal agencies to regulate physicians if they work for big hospitals. So ObamaCare shifts money to favor the delivery of outpatient care through hospital-owned networks.

The irony is that in the name of lowering costs, ObamaCare will almost certainly make the practice of medicine more expensive. It turns out that when doctors become salaried hospital employees, their overall productivity falls.

***

Over one-third of the 9.1 million full-time jobs among America’s diverse business franchises could be cut back or eliminated by Obamacare as small businesses struggle to maintain profitability while coughing up money to pay for Washington-mandated health care coverage, according to the International Franchise Association.

The threat of hitting 3.2 million full-time workers as the Affordable Care Act takes effect next year is prompting the owners of fast food restaurants, service companies and other franchises to urge Congress to make significant changes in Obamacare…

“The ACA has made health care an inextricable cost of running a small business in America and continues to evolve with regard to its cost and complexity for franchisees and franchisors as the law becomes fully implemented ahead of 2014,” said IFA Senior Vice President of Government Relations & Public Policy Judith Thorman. “Preparing your franchise business to deal with the ACA should be a top priority for franchisees and franchisors.”

***

Federal officials are developing contingency plans in case the health insurance exchanges are not fully ready to begin enrolling people on Oct. 1, the head of the agency that’s building the massive 50-state marketplace structure said last week…

Making contingency plans for October is necessary, Cohen said. “I think it’s only prudent to not assume everything is going to work perfectly on day one and to make sure that we’ve got plans in place to address things that may happen,” added Cohen, whose division is part of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS)…

Chao was frank about the stress and tension of the compressed time frame involved in setting up the exchanges. “We are under 200 days from open enrollment, and I’m pretty nervous,’’ he said. “I don’t know about you,” he added, to murmurs from the insurance industry audience.

***

They seem to have forgotten about the third path: the right can replace Obamacare if it fails. And thus far, it gives every indication of failing. It has contributed to growing premium costs. Its budget impacts have been revised only in a negative direction (indeed, the only positives have been from fewer states implementing the Medicaid expansion). It has already been stripped of one mathematically and actuarially unsound entitlement. Most Republican governors have no interest in helping implement a program they believe to be ill-thought from its inception, and even Democrats don’t want their fingerprints at the state level on exchanges and Medicaid expansions their systems can’t handle…

So implementation is going to get messy, and in ways that will impact people’s lives far more directly than the instability of the early days of Medicare Part D. We’re not just talking about getting you a drug, keep in mind – we’re talking about births, limbs, surgery, transplants, life and death. That’s one reason Democrats have already shown themselves willing to be far more critical post-2012. They think this is fine because the law appears secure. But it’s also still very unpopular, with Democratic support dropping substantially since the election. Removed from the conflict of electoral politics, Obamacare requires less ideological fealty, and pointing out its flaws becomes less an act of betrayal than an admission of the obvious.

The central problem here is that Obama promised too much, and Obamacare will deliver too little. The Repeal Coalition will continue to work to undermine it at every opportunity, and the nature of its passage means that there is no foreseeable avenue for the normal bipartisan fixes and tweaks to make a sweeping law work better. Instead, Republicans are likely to seize on every sad story as justification for dramatic changes – and in 2016, mount campaigns designed to replace the system in whole or in part with plenty of material to use in their cause. It’s very possible, perhaps even likely, that moderate Democrats will run in 2014 promising to “fix Obamacare” in one sense or another.

***

Not only will voters be alienated by changes they dislike, the thinking goes, they’ll also be confronted by the litany of promises Democratic lawmakers made before and after it became law. Rob Jesmer, who served as executive director of the National Republican Senatorial Committee in 2008 and 2010, suggested Republicans might have an easier time making their case in the next election cycle than in 2010.

“Even then, it was all theory,” said Jesmer, who is now a Republican consultant. “What I like about what’s happening in 2014 is we can use statements that were said in 2010 by vulnerable Democrats. They said, ‘You could keep your doctor, and your insurance premiums won’t rise.’ Well, the rubber is going to meet the road in 18 months. Many of them will prove largely not true.”…

The ground is fertile, then, for the issue to reemerge in 2014, because the midterm battleground map will largely be fought where Obamacare is least popular. Deeply red states like West Virginia, South Dakota, and Montana will feature races next year. And several Democrats up for reelection, like Sens. Mary Landrieu in Louisiana, Mark Begich in Alaska, and Mark Pryor in Arkansas, are facing voters for the first time since voting for the legislation in 2010.

***

The law remains generally unpopular. Conservatives don’t like it because it is expensive and intrusive. But they weren’t going to like it anyway. Obama might have his legacy legislation on firmer footing today if he had done what Johnson did and found a program that could garner at least some bipartisan support. But Obama, always in a hurry, rushed into the legislation, saw it stall, and then rushed into final passage through the use of procedural shenanigans in the Senate…

But what makes Obama’s entitlement vulnerable is that fact that Democrats don’t much like it either…

When 35 members of the Senate Democratic caucus voted to repeal the tax on medical devices like pacemakers and artificial limbs they did so over Obama’s protests and with full knowledge that doing so would make the law more fiscally unsustainable.

The president said that the hardship on medical device makers and their customers would be more than made up for once the law was in full swing and tens of millions more were added to customer rolls with free or partly free insurance. The Senate vote on Thursday night was a very vocal expression of doubt in the president’s promise.

***

According to the Kaiser Health Tracking Poll for March, only 18 percent of Republicans, 31 percent of independents, and 58 percent of members of Obama’s own party, have a favorable opinion of Obamacare. Overall, Kaiser’s polling indicates that only 37 percent of Americans like Obamacare — down 9 points from Kaiser’s tally in the month immediately following Obamacare’s passage.

By about 2-to-1 margins, Kaiser’s respondents now say that, under Obamacare, they expect the cost of American health care to rise (55 percent), rather than fall (21 percent), and the quality of American health care to fall (45 percent) rather than rise (24 percent). By more than 3-to-1 margins (57 to 16 percent on costs, 55 to 18 percent on quality), independents share these same low expectations for life under Obamacare…

With Obamacare set to roll out in earnest early next year, one hopes that Republicans will learn their lesson. If they forcefully oppose Obamarcare — rather than helping, like some GOP governors, to advance it — and if they articulate a clear and compelling replacement, they will win this war for the future of America. If they don’t, then they (though not the country) will deserve their fate.

***

Smart conservative health policy analysts have proposed a way to cut the Gordian knot — Remove the tax deduction for health insurance purchases from employers and give it to individuals. This was actually candidate John McCain’s proposal in 2008, though, as Yuval Levin (editor of National Affairs and one of those smart analysts) noted ruefully, “Nobody told John McCain.” As Levin explains, if individuals were given a $5,000 tax credit (fully refundable for those below the poverty line) for the purchase of health insurance, insurance companies would compete to provide excellent coverage for $5,000.

If, in addition, individuals were permitted to shop across state lines for insurance, those states with fewer mandates would be able to offer cheaper plans and would accordingly get more business. Replacing traditional Medicare with premium support would encourage competition in that market, as well…

As Obamacare’s rising costs and constricted choices alienate the American people, Republicans should be ready with an alternative that is market-oriented, assembled and on the launchpad.


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Is it that late already?

davidk on March 22, 2013 at 8:02 PM

…date night!

KOOLAID2 on March 22, 2013 at 8:04 PM

As Obamacare’s rising costs and constricted choices alienate the American people, Republicans should be ready with an alternative that is market-oriented, assembled and on the launchpad.

How about a law that says, “Government will leave it up to the market and the individual.”?

Is that so hard?

davidk on March 22, 2013 at 8:04 PM

The president said that the hardship on medical device makers and their customers would be more than made up for once the law was in full swing and tens of millions more were added to customer rolls with free or partly free insurance. The Senate vote on Thursday night was a very vocal expression of doubt in the president’s promise.

…economics at Harvard must have been JugEars minor!

KOOLAID2 on March 22, 2013 at 8:05 PM

Are you taking the cats out tonight?

RovesChins on March 22, 2013 at 8:07 PM

Soon the left will tell us that the official name isn’t ObamaCare..
It’s The Affordable HealthCare Act.

Oh wait…

Electrongod on March 22, 2013 at 8:08 PM

Its a fine, its a tax, its a fine, its a tax, its a fine…

Speakup on March 22, 2013 at 8:09 PM

Democrats celebrated the third anniversary of the passage of President Obama’s signature health-care legislation on Friday by voting down a Republican amendment to repeal the entire law.

The celebration included donkey rides, face painting, and a screw with no lube, just like three years ago.

RovesChins on March 22, 2013 at 8:10 PM

As Obamacare’s rising costs and constricted choices alienate the American people, Republicans should be ready with an alternative that is market-oriented, assembled and on the launchpad.

How about a law that says, “Government will leave it up to the market and the individual.”?

Is that so hard?

davidk on March 22, 2013 at 8:04 PM

.
It doesn’t achieve their true goal.

listens2glenn on March 22, 2013 at 8:10 PM

“Obamacare is hurting young people. It’s hurting seniors. It’s hurting Hispanics. It’s hurting African-Americans. It’s hurting single moms. It’s hurting the economy. It should be repealed.”

The First Sequester..

MiH

Make it Hurt.

Electrongod on March 22, 2013 at 8:11 PM

The law remains generally unpopular. Conservatives don’t like it because it is expensive and intrusive.

And what’s the Liberals reasoning?

They love it because it is expensive and intrusive?

Electrongod on March 22, 2013 at 8:14 PM

A screwed up bunch, these libs are.

Electrongod on March 22, 2013 at 8:16 PM

“I see this as honoring the vows of our Founders, who sacrificed everything for life, liberty, pursuit of happiness,” Pelosi told reporters today. “Here we have a healthier life [and] the liberty to pursue your happiness — whether it’s to be a cameraman, a writer, self-employed, start your own business, change jobs, not be job-locked because of health care; whether you have a preexisting condition in your family or just [lack] the ability to afford access to health care.”

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi

.
“Here we have …” NEITHER, YOU (multiple expletives).

listens2glenn on March 22, 2013 at 8:16 PM

Psychiatric case – good thing they judge them by physical abilities.

Schadenfreude on March 22, 2013 at 8:18 PM

…date night!

KOOLAID2 on March 22, 2013 at 8:04 PM

She found out where he works… and he now has to go into hiding.
Play Post Misty for me….

viking01 on March 22, 2013 at 8:20 PM

Evening all…my this thread is early.

CoffeeLover on March 22, 2013 at 8:21 PM

O/T

Can we update the popup guy wearing the HA shirt to a ..
Woman wearing a HA shirt..

Electrongod on March 22, 2013 at 8:22 PM

Evening all…my this thread is early.

CoffeeLover on March 22, 2013 at 8:21 PM

Happy hour in New York..

Electrongod on March 22, 2013 at 8:23 PM

Hi EG….lol good point :)

CoffeeLover on March 22, 2013 at 8:23 PM

Wow posted at 801 live. Still working. : (

Bmore on March 22, 2013 at 8:27 PM

The State Run Media will ignore all the problems associated with this debacle and will pound the American public will feel good stories of all the new people who have care now…those that Dear Leader saved.

d1carter on March 22, 2013 at 8:29 PM

6 in 10 doctors retire early – 3rd world awaits you, fools of the land. England is a very bad example.

State by state status

Schadenfreude on March 22, 2013 at 8:32 PM

d1carter…without doubt. They must have polled to death here recently as I watched some of the budget debate and all they talked about was how much they are taking care of the people whereas the Rs are out to kill everyone.

CoffeeLover on March 22, 2013 at 8:32 PM

Schadenfreude on March 22, 2013 at 8:32 PM

read that article earlier. I am also reading that many doctors are going into “concierge practices.” So then only people who have CASH will be served.

CoffeeLover on March 22, 2013 at 8:33 PM

Shoot… I’d MUCH RATHER celebrate the 50th Anniversary of the release of the Beatles’ first album, ‘Please Please Me’ !
Hey, I was 12 yo !!
At least it should make us smile, no ??

Track listing…
All songs written by McCartney–Lennon, except where noted.

Side one
No. Title Lead vocals Length
1. “I Saw Her Standing There” McCartney 2:54
2. “Misery” Lennon and McCartney 1:49
3. “Anna (Go to Him)” (Arthur Alexander) Lennon 2:57
4. “Chains” (Gerry Goffin, Carole King) George Harrison 2:26
5. “Boys” (Luther Dixon, Wes Farrell) Ringo Starr 2:27
6. “Ask Me Why” Lennon 2:26
7. “Please Please Me” Lennon and McCartney 2:03
Side two
No. Title Lead vocals Length
1. “Love Me Do” McCartney and Lennon 2:23
2. “P.S. I Love You” McCartney 2:04
3. “Baby It’s You” (Mack David, Barney Williams, Burt Bacharach) Lennon 2:40
4. “Do You Want to Know a Secret” Harrison 1:59
5. “A Taste of Honey” (Bobby Scott, Ric Marlow) McCartney 2:03
6. “There’s a Place” Lennon and McCartney 1:51
7. “Twist and Shout” (Phil Medley, Bert Russell) Lennon 2:37

Consider this my loves to the QOTD gang, since I can’t often contribute. ENJOY !!
:-)

pambi on March 22, 2013 at 8:36 PM

They want single payer, and they want the rich and the poor, and the long time citizen and undocumented immigrant, to all get the same service, where it also is illegal to buy better service or insurance. That’s the push, the egalitarian push. We will all have to wait in the same lines, and suffer the same pains.

anotherJoe on March 22, 2013 at 8:36 PM

I see this as honoring the vows of our Founders, who sacrificed everything for life, liberty, pursuit of happiness,” Pelosi told reporters today.

Her favorite one is Benjamin Franklin Pierce.

RickB on March 22, 2013 at 8:51 PM

Why? Because when doctors practice in small offices, it is hard for Washington to regulate what they do. There are too many of them, and the government is too remote. It is far easier for federal agencies to regulate physicians if they work for big hospitals. So ObamaCare shifts money to favor the delivery of outpatient care through hospital-owned networks.

The irony is that in the name of lowering costs, ObamaCare will almost certainly make the practice of medicine more expensive. It turns out that when doctors become salaried hospital employees, their overall productivity falls.

And the tragedy is NOONE could have predicted this. NOT. NOONE actually did predict this. NOT.
The fools in this country get what they deserve. Unfortunately, unless you are a doctor or have one in the family you are stuck in a healthcare system that is going downhill fast and it will coincidentally cost you more money to get worse service. I despise Democrats.

txmomof6 on March 22, 2013 at 8:54 PM

TEOWAWKI when TSHTF.

Decoski on March 22, 2013 at 9:08 PM

The central problem here is that Obama promised too much, and Obamacare will deliver too little.

No. The problem is that Obamacare was never intended to succeed at anything except destroying the private insurance industry, and private health-care industry, in this country. So it could be replaced by a “single-payer”, “nonprofit”, government-controlled National Healthcare System.

It’s about time that everybody faced up to a simple fact about “progressives”, including progressives themselves. That is that for all their “caring and sharing” rhetoric, they are, by nature, control freaks who yearn for the power of life and death over everybody else. Exactly what they will do with it when they get it, even they aren’t entirely sure at times. But like the little boy who demands a pony, all they know is that they are entitled to it, on grounds of self-perceived importance and perfection.

It’s the same with abortion and gun control. They want to be able to decide who lives, and who dies, and to have a monopoly of the power to enforce their will. Ditto capital punishment; they don’t want any jury or judge deciding that someone who kills peasants should be punished. In fact, many progressives privately cheer for such animals; they are “defenders of Holy Mother Gaia”, in their worldview.

So, you can’t say that Obamacare is a failure. It is going to give progressives control over the lives- and deaths- of every single American. Which is exactly what they want.

And when it comes to life and death choices, their track record clearly shows who they will make which choice for. They see everything as a zero-sum game where one must be sacrificed for the benefit of another.

And they damned sure won’t choose “death” for themselves.

clear ether

eon

eon on March 22, 2013 at 9:12 PM

When ObamaCare falls flat on it’s regulatory face, perhaps reporters will ask Nancy-poo what went wrong.

Hahahahahaha!!!!!!! Yeah, that will happen.

GarandFan on March 22, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Separation of church and state:

State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland said on Friday that if a request were to “come forward” that the papal election be monitored by an international organization called the Organization for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR), the U.S. government “would take it very seriously.”

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/us-would-take-very-seriously-request-odihr-monitoring-papal-election

davidk on March 22, 2013 at 9:16 PM

davidk on March 22, 2013 at 9:09 PM

Should I be freaked out that I have that link bookmarked already ?
:-)

+++ eon

pambi on March 22, 2013 at 9:17 PM

eon on March 22, 2013 at 9:12 PM

Yep.

davidk on March 22, 2013 at 9:17 PM

Should I be freaked out that I have that link bookmarked already ?
:-)

+++ eon

pambi on March 22, 2013 at 9:17 PM

No. Just consider yourself informed.

davidk on March 22, 2013 at 9:18 PM

O/T

Can we update the popup guy wearing the HA shirt to a ..
Woman wearing a HA shirt..

Electrongod on March 22, 2013 at 8:22 PM

or a compromise–put the dude in something other than red, all be it I get the red reference…

hillsoftx on March 22, 2013 at 9:19 PM

davidk on March 22, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Resisting the urge to watch ‘Expelled’ for the 100th time. :-)

pambi on March 22, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Goodbye Georgetown, hello bracket busting Florida Gulf Coast.

RickB on March 22, 2013 at 9:30 PM

Biden’s $459,388.65 Hotel Bill in Paris for 1 night…

What did he need for that much money?

Man these elitists sure are living high off the hog ain’t they?

What with the ‘oh woe is me’ sequester, how does he justify this ginormous expense eh?

Was he eating beluga caviar and drinking champaigne by the bathtub full?

Scrumpy on March 22, 2013 at 9:32 PM

*Lurking*

Scrumpy on March 22, 2013 at 9:33 PM

*Lurking*

Scrumpy on March 22, 2013 at 9:33 PM

*clink*

Electrongod on March 22, 2013 at 9:36 PM

davidk on March 22, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Resisting the urge to watch ‘Expelled’ for the 100th time. :-)

pambi on March 22, 2013 at 9:24 PM

My resistance was futile !
I don’t yet have all of ‘their’ quotes documented yet. LOL.

pambi on March 22, 2013 at 9:37 PM

hi lurking Scrumpy

CoffeeLover on March 22, 2013 at 9:41 PM

‘Toon of the Day: Weapons of Mass Destruction

Resist We Much on March 22, 2013 at 9:41 PM

excellent

Watching some of the amendments in the Senate….I can’t give you a good reason! Rand Paul Amendment 5 yr balanced budget replacement for Ds Budget got less than 15 Rs to vote yes to. Esh

CoffeeLover on March 22, 2013 at 9:43 PM

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/us-would-take-very-seriously-request-odihr-monitoring-papal-election

davidk on March 22, 2013 at 9:16 PM

I thought Stupid was bounded.

Alas. The boundary is asymptotic.

Axe on March 22, 2013 at 9:44 PM

Final count `18 yes 81 No

The Republican party disgusts me some days.

CoffeeLover on March 22, 2013 at 9:46 PM

Here is the full list of the Republicans who voted for the Ted Cruz amendment to defund Obamacare, but then flipped their votes to actually vote to fund Obamacare:
■Alexander (R-TN)
■Barrasso (R-WY)
■Blunt (R-MO)
■Boozman (R-AR)
■Chambliss (R-GA)
■Coats (R-IN)
■Cochran (R-MS)
■Collins (R-ME)
■Corker (R-TN)
■Cornyn (R-TX)
■Hatch (R-UT)
■Hoeven (R-ND)
■Isakson (R-GA)
■Johanns (R-NE)
■McConnell (R-KY)
■Murkowski (R-AK)
■Sessions (R-AL)
■Shelby (R-AL)
■Thune (R-SD)
■Wicker (R-MS)

http://www.redstate.com/2013/03/21/mitch-mcconnell-votes-to-fund-obamacare/

rrpjr on March 22, 2013 at 9:48 PM

Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen!! :-)

And to all late comers… good evening…

Electrongod on March 22, 2013 at 9:36 PM

CoffeeLover on March 22, 2013 at 9:41 PM

davidk on March 22, 2013 at 9:16 PM

KOOLAID2 on March 22, 2013 at 8:04 PM

Resist We Much on March 22, 2013 at 9:41 PM

Schadenfreude on March 22, 2013 at 8:32 PM

Bmore on March 22, 2013 at 8:27 PM

listens2glenn on March 22, 2013 at 8:16 PM

eon pambi RickB hillsoftx GarandFan d1carter viking01 …

Scrumpy on March 22, 2013 at 9:51 PM

rrpjr on March 22, 2013 at 9:48 PM

Oh, good Lord, help us. :-(

pambi on March 22, 2013 at 9:51 PM

Axe on March 22, 2013 at 9:44 PM

Good evening :-)

Scrumpy on March 22, 2013 at 9:51 PM

rrpjr on March 22, 2013 at 9:48 PM

Good evening and I am done!!

Seriously… snakes in the grass…

Scrumpy on March 22, 2013 at 9:53 PM

*Lurk*

Scrumpy on March 22, 2013 at 9:53 PM

Oh, good Lord, help us. :-(

pambi on March 22, 2013 at 9:51 PM

As Debbie Downer said..
Tax the rich..
Don’t touch my lifestyle..

Electrongod on March 22, 2013 at 9:54 PM

Hi, Scrumpy !
I mostly lurk QOTD, but, Hubbly is watching BBall, tonight .. LOL.

pambi on March 22, 2013 at 9:54 PM

Seriously… snakes in the grass…

Scrumpy on March 22, 2013 at 9:53 PM

well said Scrumpy.

CoffeeLover on March 22, 2013 at 9:54 PM

I found Utopia..

Washington D.C.

Electrongod on March 22, 2013 at 9:55 PM

bring the suckah down!!!

The plan of the DOTUS.

PappyD61 on March 22, 2013 at 9:55 PM

Axe on March 22, 2013 at 9:44 PM

…Speed stick!

KOOLAID2 on March 22, 2013 at 9:55 PM

Good evening everyone, ya’ll been falling down on the job. I have a new rant up (Boy is it a hum dinger too) and ya’ll aint even commented on it… God I hate Illinois Nazi’s California Enviro-Nazi’s…

SWalker on March 22, 2013 at 9:57 PM

SWalker on March 22, 2013 at 9:57 PM

Good evening, I be slippin’ sorry!!

Let me slide on over there ‘n’ see what’s up! :-)

Scrumpy on March 22, 2013 at 9:59 PM

Good evening :-)

Scrumpy on March 22, 2013 at 9:51 PM

Evening Scrump. :)

…Speed stick!

KOOLAID2 on March 22, 2013 at 9:55 PM

Evening, inexpensive and convenient drink flavoring.

For the record, I smell like genius, sex appeal, and victory. I’m talking to you, Bethlehem Pennsylvania.

Axe on March 22, 2013 at 10:00 PM

SWalker on March 22, 2013 at 9:57 PM

^5

Scrumpy on March 22, 2013 at 10:05 PM

eon

eon= big buzzard off of Rudolph’s Shinny New Year?

Just curios:)

To everyone else Good evening on your side of the world, Scrumpy, glad your back, don’t worry, eventually it will all work itself out, may mean we lead a much simpler life, but I fail to see the downside in that:)

MarshFox on March 22, 2013 at 10:05 PM

QUIET on the set everyone.

GENIUSES at work here!!

Scrumpy on March 22, 2013 at 10:07 PM

MarshFox on March 22, 2013 at 10:05 PM

Good evening Marshfox!! Good to see you :-)

I live as simply as I can now within me means…

But can do even better…

Scrumpy on March 22, 2013 at 10:09 PM

So where is the real stay poofed harsh mellow man?

I smell an impostor.

SparkPlug on March 22, 2013 at 10:10 PM

SWalker can blog and lurk at the same time.

SparkPlug on March 22, 2013 at 10:11 PM

Scrumpy on March 22, 2013 at 10:09 PM

I am quite sure you do:) You have always struck me as a very frugal lady who has her priorities in order, but I was thing that we may be back to the days of letters delivered by horseback before its all over:)

MarshFox on March 22, 2013 at 10:13 PM

Sorry I’m late. Just got done lubing up the Hawaiian Tropics bikini models for their photo shoot. They are paying me too.

SparkPlug on March 22, 2013 at 10:13 PM

stay poofed harsh mellow man

:)

I smell an impostor.

SparkPlug on March 22, 2013 at 10:10 PM

Genius, sex appeal, and victory.

Sometimes bacon.

Axe on March 22, 2013 at 10:14 PM

MarshFox on March 22, 2013 at 10:13 PM

If it comes down to that kind of living, I’ll need to find me a commune!!

I can make it in the country…

Scrumpy on March 22, 2013 at 10:15 PM

SparkPlug on March 22, 2013 at 10:13 PM

Good evening Sparky, ever with the choice work! ;-)

Scrumpy on March 22, 2013 at 10:16 PM

lol Spark Plug

CoffeeLover on March 22, 2013 at 10:16 PM

Axe on March 22, 2013 at 10:14 PM

I am guessing you get naked and roll around in the bacon;) Hum, gotta tell Mrs MarshFox(LilaMunro) about that one. Actually you make a good fit for her “At Your Service” series that’s coming out later this year.

MarshFox on March 22, 2013 at 10:18 PM

SWalker can blog and lurk at the same time.

SparkPlug on March 22, 2013 at 10:11 PM

Well, my big ole brain got mad at me, when I woke up a couple of days ago I found a note on my pillow telling me that it went on vacation without me… O_O

SWalker on March 22, 2013 at 10:21 PM

eon on March 22, 2013 at 9:12 PM

+1,000 excellent comment.

Actually, I’ve read your comments on other blogs (PJ Media, for example) — they are consistently excellent.

PatriotGal2257 on March 22, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Scrumpy on March 22, 2013 at 10:15 PM

Us too:) as far as making it in the country, matter of fact I have a buddy who just rotated back making me some doe skin britches, for hunting( I am an avid bow hunter)

MarshFox on March 22, 2013 at 10:21 PM

may mean we lead a much simpler life, but I fail to see the downside in that:)

MarshFox on March 22, 2013 at 10:05 PM

Depends on how you define “a much simpler life”… Read my latest rant to see what I am getting at.

SWalker on March 22, 2013 at 10:22 PM

MarshFox on March 22, 2013 at 10:21 PM

if he can skin it I can turn it into britches lol!!

Scrumpy on March 22, 2013 at 10:23 PM

SWalker on March 22, 2013 at 9:57 PM

Epic rant. Well done!

PatriotGal2257 on March 22, 2013 at 10:24 PM

SWalker on March 22, 2013 at 9:57 PM

Epic rant. Well done!

PatriotGal2257 on March 22, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Thank you, as a Californian I have had to put up with these imbeciles for the last 4 decades, and man let me tell you, I have really had it with their imbecilic narcissistic stupidity.

SWalker on March 22, 2013 at 10:26 PM

SWalker on March 22, 2013 at 10:21 PM

hehe. I’ve given so many people a piece of my mind that there is nothing left. That’s why I pimp a ride on other peoples brain waves.

SparkPlug on March 22, 2013 at 10:27 PM

SWalker on March 22, 2013 at 10:22 PM

it would be survival for me, not me wanting the grid shut down cuz of some stupid idiots…

Scrumpy on March 22, 2013 at 10:29 PM

SWalker on March 22, 2013 at 10:21 PM

hehe. I’ve given so many people a piece of my mind that there is nothing left. That’s why I pimp a ride on other peoples brain waves.

SparkPlug on March 22, 2013 at 10:27 PM

ROTFLMAO… Oh I am soooo stealing that…. ;)

SWalker on March 22, 2013 at 10:30 PM

SparkPlug on March 22, 2013 at 10:27 PM

I don’t know how you do it!!! That’s brilliant!!

Scrumpy on March 22, 2013 at 10:31 PM

SWalker on March 22, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Don’t know how you put up with it. I don’t know how I could if I were in your situation, even if I had a deep attachment to the state as my home. At some point, I might very sadly decide that I’ve had enough. On the other hand, I might get angry and filled with resolve that those envirowackos are not going to drive me out.

PatriotGal2257 on March 22, 2013 at 10:34 PM

SWalker on March 22, 2013 at 10:22 PM

They are the same nuts that are killing the farmers in the south because of a smelt, so this newest idiocy doesn’t surprise me. They don’t want to return to an agrarian society, they haven’t a clue as to how much work it takes. I personally think we should go all nuclear for the power grids, each state producing its own power, all the plants underground and shielded, kinda like subs, seems to me smart people ought to be able to make that plan work if the loonies would get out of the way. As for me and mine, I will have electricity, and be off the grid, produce my own, plus I will be able to live with out. My point to Scrumpy and now you is that your population die out is due, so it all may not matter, we have circumvented nature enough, she will have her day, either war, famine, or disease, its the natural cycle.

MarshFox on March 22, 2013 at 10:35 PM

MarshFox on March 22, 2013 at 10:35 PM

It is, nature will have her way…

Scrumpy on March 22, 2013 at 10:37 PM

SWalker on March 22, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Don’t know how you put up with it. I don’t know how I could if I were in your situation, even if I had a deep attachment to the state as my home. At some point, I might very sadly decide that I’ve had enough. On the other hand, I might get angry and filled with resolve that those envirowackos are not going to drive me out.

PatriotGal2257 on March 22, 2013 at 10:34 PM

Well part of it is that I’m just not bright enough to know when I’m beat, so I keep fighting, this is after all my home. I am not surrendering or running away. I’ll keep fighting until, well they literally throw me out of the state.

SWalker on March 22, 2013 at 10:37 PM

PatriotGal2257 on March 22, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Aw, shucks. (Blushes, scrapes sneaker toe across gravel…)

Thanks.

cheers

eon

eon on March 22, 2013 at 10:40 PM

SWalker on March 22, 2013 at 10:37 PM

You know what? That’s a much better answer — not surrendering. You shouldn’t and I hope you don’t.

What would be funny is if you found a way to taunt them and them having no way to stop you. :)

PatriotGal2257 on March 22, 2013 at 10:42 PM

eon on March 22, 2013 at 10:40 PM

:)

PatriotGal2257 on March 22, 2013 at 10:43 PM

SWalker on March 22, 2013 at 10:37 PM

You know as well as I do their going to lock you up, then I am going to have to come get you;)

MarshFox on March 22, 2013 at 10:44 PM

What would be funny is if you found a way to taunt them and them having no way to stop you. :)

PatriotGal2257 on March 22, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Sadly it is my personal opinion that these narcissistic pseudo intellectual mentally defective fools do not have the brain power to recolonize that they are being mocked or taunted.

SWalker on March 22, 2013 at 10:46 PM

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