Raul Labrador: The path to citizenship is a minor issue in comprehensive immigration reform; Update: Leahy rules out quick timetable for passage?
posted at 4:41 pm on March 20, 2013 by Allahpundit
Notable, if only because Labrador claimed a few weeks ago that House Republicans would never vote for a path to citizenship. Has he changed his mind? Nope: If you read his earlier remarks closely, you know that he meant they’d never vote for a special path to citizenship, i.e. a new statutory mechanism created specifically for illegals. Granting them legal status and then letting them apply for a green card in the future through normal channels is very much on the table. Which, in fact, is what Rand Paul proposed yesterday.
Small favor: Given deep conservative anxieties that legalized illegals will vote overwhelmingly for Democrats once they’re granted citizenship, could we maybe not dismiss the issue as “minor”? Kind of important politically.
“You guys emphasize the ‘pathway to citizenship’ — we’re talking about a minor issue,” said Rep. Raul Labrador, one of the leading Republican members of a House working group on immigration reform. “The real issue that we’re dealing with is immigration reform.”
“What I think should happen is, anybody who’s here illegally can come out of the shadows, become legalized in some way, have some sort of legal status, and the status could lead to legal permanent residency and citizenship eventually, but just the same as anybody else who falls into that category,” he added.
No, actually, the real issue we’re dealing with is border security. Even most stalwart opponents of the path to citizenship would, I think, relent if Congress could give them real comfort that we won’t be facing another amnesty 10-20 years from now. As it is, I’d bet 95 percent of the rhetoric in the big post-election immigration push has been devoted to the prospective nuances of the citizenship process, not to the border. That makes sense politically given that the whole point of this effort on the Republican side is to build goodwill with Latinos, but the message to border hawks is that their core concern is a pure afterthought. Only Paul’s plan has placed any emphasis on border improvements by demanding congressional ratification of them annually, and like I said yesterday, I doubt Republicans would be sticklers on that even if Paul’s plan did pass. The closer we get to 2016, the more eager they’ll be to ingratiate themselves with Latino voters. Blocking the path to citizenship on grounds that the border hasn’t been tightened enough yet is antithetical to that.
Don’t beat up on Labrador, though. He was one of nine Republican House members on the Heritage immigration panel today and they were all singing basically the same tune. A gleeful TPM reports:
“I thought [Rand Paul] did a very, very good job in talking about and embracing some ideals of dealing with illegal immigration and embracing some of the reform measures my friends are putting together,” Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-SC) said. Duncan has an A+ career rating from anti-immigration group Numbers USA and once compared illegal immigrants to “vagrants” and “animals.”…
“We shouldn’t create a second class group that could never become citizens, but we should also not give them a special pathway that nobody can follow,” Labrador told the audience, adding that any bill also needed border enforcement triggers that would be met before reaching that point.
“I think many of us are willing to consider what Raul just descibed there,” Jordan, the former chair of the conservative Republican Study Committee, said…
Huelskamp told TPM he could find plenty to like in a comprehensive bill from a conservative perspective — it would boost to his state’s agricultural business, local Catholic leaders support it, and by granting legal status to undocumented immigrants it would be easier to track and prevent them from using welfare benefits.
When asked as a group whether any of them opposed Paul’s call to legalize the 11 million illegals who are here, no one said yes. No surprise there, either, as there’s plenty of momentum for immigration reform in the caucus: Boehner and company can’t stop chattering about their excitement over the bipartisan House plan (Labrador’s a member of the group that’s working on it), which is why the Times is now running pieces like this. I’m still skeptical that reform supporters will be able to ram the bill through Congress, but between reading TPM’s story and hearing that Harry Reid wants the Senate bill on the floor as soon as next month, it’s getting harder to maintain that skepticism. Exit question via Mickey Kaus: Is there really no tea-party champion in Congress who’ll seize the opportunity to impress the base by standing up as an outspoken opponent of this — at least until serious border security is proposed? Where are you when we need you, Ted Cruz?
Update: I’m now cautiously optimistic that Lindsey Graham’s best efforts to get Congress to rubber-stamp the Gang of Eight bill will be thwarted. Says Pat Leahy, chair of the Judiciary Committee:
Leahy made clear he is not happy that the Gang of 8 is doing its work in secret. “I have favored an open and transparent process during which all 18 Senators serving on the Senate Judiciary Committee will have the opportunity to participate and to propose or oppose ideas for reform,” he said. “The Majority Leader [Sen. Harry Reid] has agreed that we need regular order in the consideration of comprehensive immigration reform. This process will take time. It will not be easy. There will be strongly-held, differing points of view. Because we do not yet have legislative language to debate, the Senate Judiciary Committee will not be able to report a comprehensive immigration bill by the end of April, which was my goal.”
Leahy’s statement came one day after six of the eight Republicans on the Judiciary Committee wrote him a letter urging that consideration of any comprehensive immigration reform proposal be slowed down considerably. (The other two GOP committee members, Lindsey Graham and Jeff Flake, are working with the Gang of 8.) Now it appears the slowdown is happening, whether Leahy wanted it or not.
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This is why there’s a call to wait for the facts to out.
Good Lt on May 16, 2013 at 3:59 PM
Indeed.
I’m carefully, very carefully, asking “why did the news about the Boston terrorist brother scribbling all those bad things onto the walls of the boat not come out instantly?”
Schadenfreude on May 16, 2013 at 3:59 PM
cozmo was right.
Schadenfreude on May 16, 2013 at 3:59 PM
He’s stupid, perhaps?
Mr. Arkadin on May 16, 2013 at 4:00 PM
I think we are going to find many more surprises before this is over…
d1carter on May 16, 2013 at 4:00 PM
Heard that last night and Ace sniffed it out pretty quickly.
DanMan on May 16, 2013 at 4:03 PM
Always count on the Rs to be fools.
Schadenfreude on May 16, 2013 at 4:05 PM
Looks like Nines got a call from IRS ?
burrata on May 16, 2013 at 4:06 PM
The fact that calls were made, a call log, is very helpful in an investigation or in political intimidation. Traffic analysis. Careful please.
65droptop on May 16, 2013 at 4:06 PM
The stupid party never fails…
blue13326 on May 16, 2013 at 4:06 PM
So Nunes hyperventilated and misspoke
OK
Isn’t it weird though that Holder wanted to map the phone calls of congress & their staff with Journalists in the press room?
Alberto Gonzales was quoted saying that even at the peak Bush years they never went after the press for leaks.
Congress should keep digging.
workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 4:08 PM
Congressman Squirrel.
Dude, prepare to become a household name.
Marcus on May 16, 2013 at 4:14 PM
He’s from Kalifornia.
nobar on May 16, 2013 at 4:17 PM
At this point, what does it matter?
But sure, AP, let’s all focus on the one case where there wasn’t any malfeasance on the part of the Ogabe Junta so we won’t all be distracted by the 7,332 cases where there was.
Good job.
Misha I on May 16, 2013 at 4:19 PM
Really, Devin Nunes? FAIL!
Way to put another extremist on a pedestal.
If this really happened please find a credible source not an unknown nutter. If this is true it is clearly an impeachable breech. But that won’t happen with clowns leading the brigade.
Capitalist Hog on May 15, 2013 at 8:21 PM
This was what I was saying yesterday when the entire thread blew up at me.
Vindication is meh. What would be nice is if GOP pols didn’t make fools of the party in this way. The scandal is perfectly exploitable without puffing it up with phony, incredible accusations.
I don’t expect an apology. I don’t even expect any one of you who vociferously disputed my call to “wait and see” to own up. That’s the difference between them and me.
I acknowledge my errors when pointed out to me. We’ll see if any of you value your integrity or you’re just full of crap.
Capitalist Hog on May 16, 2013 at 4:23 PM
Not wierd at all, it was a national security matter, didn’t you hear ?
The guy who runs guns for drug cartels across the border and defends jihadies from around the world,
and knows absolutely nothing about anything in his own department had grave concerns about our national security and so his underlings wanted to get some dirt on Congressmen to pass on to the IRS thugs , for national security you know !!!!
burrata on May 16, 2013 at 4:24 PM
This was pointed out first on the Greenroom thread by Hot Air’s most cogent commenter:
:D
Ted Torgerson on May 16, 2013 at 4:24 PM
I heard this live and I understood it to mean they retrieved the phone record. Not wiretapped. What’s the big deal?
jawkneemusic on May 16, 2013 at 4:25 PM
Update: ‘Incredibly Attractive’ Think Progress Writer, FOB Ayers, And Hate Crime Hoaxer Is Also A Psycho With A Gun Conviction
Resist We Much on May 16, 2013 at 4:26 PM
Maybe if you hadn’t been such a total jerk yesterday, and today, you wouldn’t be whining now.
But whining is
what your type is best atthe only thing your kind isgoodnot horrible at.Of course if the parties were reversed, y’all would still be ranting that since the charge was credible, it should be investigated further.
cozmo on May 16, 2013 at 4:28 PM
This will be the leading story on MSM tonight.
Jackalope on May 16, 2013 at 4:29 PM
They are so butthurt, they need something to cheer about.
cozmo on May 16, 2013 at 4:30 PM
Why does Holder sorry his underlings need those phone numbers anyway ?
burrata on May 16, 2013 at 4:32 PM
@mad con
Capitalist Hog on May 16, 2013 at 4:32 PM
Au contraire. I only corrected your usage of the word ‘breech’ for ‘breach,’ which is an error that I have noticed more than once.
Neither do I.
Resist We Much on May 16, 2013 at 4:33 PM
Ironically, there was also numerous uncounted ballet boxes from the recent SC House election.
trs on May 16, 2013 at 4:33 PM
How does one know when the facts are out?
xblade on May 16, 2013 at 4:34 PM
(smiles)
You mean if I hadn’t been myself? Sorry dude. The barn door is open and I’m a Screech-owl. This is how it goes.
I don’t base facts on emotion. If I do let me know. That’s what Mad Con. That’s why he gets an apology.
That above link is a quasi-apology to MadCon. Feel free to rub some of that wherever it feels good. Get it while it lasts.
Capitalist Hog on May 16, 2013 at 4:36 PM
What more can I do than call myself an “idiot.” I know I grew up knowing how to spell “breach.” I know I spelled “breech” correctly when writing about my nephew’s birth.
But I’m an idiot. Because somewhere along the way (probably around the time I started using cell phones) I stopped refreshing what was not recently learned. I was speaking Spanish to someone one day after not using it for a long time and I think I ended proposing to a dog.
Like I said. I’m an idiot.
You did what I would have done.
Capitalist Hog on May 16, 2013 at 4:39 PM
perhaps to lessen the sting of Holder getting blamed for stopping Djoker from testifying after being read his Miranda rights. That written text trumps his potentially nullified admissions up to then.
DanMan on May 16, 2013 at 4:42 PM
Love the truth more than you hate the opposition.
Capitalist Hog on May 16, 2013 at 4:42 PM
Did the dog say
yessi ??;-)
burrata on May 16, 2013 at 4:44 PM
I think this is a great question.
Yes, you’re still an anti-gay bigot.
Capitalist Hog on May 16, 2013 at 4:44 PM
¿Hey perro, te quieres casarte conmigo?
man what the heck were you talking about to end up with that? funny stuff.
DanMan on May 16, 2013 at 4:45 PM
I could tell something was wrong with each contortion of this poor woman’s face. So, yeah, as a human I’m prone to grade-school FAILS!
Capitalist Hog on May 16, 2013 at 4:45 PM
So, you admit that you were incorrect when you wrote on this thread that the entire thread yesterday blew up at you. Correct? Because I was on that thread and I did not ‘blow up’ at you, especially on the subject of Nunes.
Resist We Much on May 16, 2013 at 4:51 PM
Sabes la película se llama “Amor es perros?”
Capitalist Hog on May 16, 2013 at 4:55 PM
Figure it out.
I acknowledged that error last night.
Capitalist Hog on May 16, 2013 at 5:00 PM
OT
WAY OT
WTF?
Is this a Chinese Hot Air clone.
Capitalist Hog on May 16, 2013 at 5:01 PM
WTF?
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Capitalist Hog on May 16, 2013 at 5:02 PM
So analyzing phone records from the AP phone in the gallery is NOT a violation of constitutional separation of powers? At all?
I beg to differ. That its the gallery phone makes it worse!
PoliTech on May 16, 2013 at 5:02 PM
Well you are the only person who believes this. But here’s the thing tapping the phones was not illegal either. It was a violation of our rights. It was a violation of the First Amendment, which is a violation to all.
But those rights were sold away long ago. Follow the bouncing ball…down the sewer.
We all get that you want to do an end around and be the most conservative voice in the room. But you’re just being stupid.
Capitalist Hog on May 16, 2013 at 5:06 PM
Jeebus, the last time I saw this much pathetic whining was watching Jerry Seinfeld.
cozmo on May 16, 2013 at 5:06 PM
No, YOU figure it out…
TODAY:
The ‘entire thread’ did NOT blow up at you yesterday. I know this because I was on that thread and I did NOT blow up at you.
Resist We Much on May 16, 2013 at 5:09 PM
Capitalist Hog, google “Checks and balances”.
Then, don’t bother getting back to me.
PoliTech on May 16, 2013 at 5:10 PM
I have to confess, I’ve never heard of this guy before this incident…
d1carter on May 16, 2013 at 5:12 PM
What a dope.
Ward Cleaver on May 16, 2013 at 5:14 PM
Now I know who is honest and who isn’t. I’ve replied to every challenge I’ve met in the past day or so here at HA. It’s funny to watch you all wither away from your own words while freaking out over mine.
Resist We Much rightly mockeed me for dipshite spelling errors. He, Cozmo (dick) and one other I can’t recall are the only ones who exercised prudence on this issue yesterday.
That none of you saps recognize how reckless your premature damning can be is telling. You’ll have no leg to stand on when making your bigot-case against gay-marriage or bashing all Muslims as terrorists.
I hold Schadenfreude in special regard. He is the most consistently bigoted voice here at Hot Air. It must take practice. Hats off, haters.
@Madison Conservative
This is goading.
Capitalist Hog on May 16, 2013 at 5:18 PM
when he said tapped I didn’t think he meant wiretapping.
I thought he was just using slang, like I tapped the boss for more money, etc.
dmacleo on May 16, 2013 at 5:18 PM
How about this. You allege that laws have been broken with no evidence thereof. The solution is simple; prove your assertion. Or STFU.
I’m pissed, everybody here is pissed about this. But anger is not data. You have no facts. You have feelings. Go feel yourself.
Capitalist Hog on May 16, 2013 at 5:21 PM
You think a little too highly of yourself.
slickwillie2001 on May 16, 2013 at 5:21 PM
Lucky you for getting my gender right. Though I fail to see the need for mentioning my sexual organ in the context of this thread.
When 0bamacare becomes the law of the land, they may give you a pill for your issue with letting things go.
Or maybe not. You may not be deemed worthy.
cozmo on May 16, 2013 at 5:30 PM
i think Hugh went a little overboard…you know..breaking news and all that. At minimum, hugh did Not help.
here’s what the guy said..w/out Hugh
is it a sloppy construction? yeah…but it is clear what he was trying to say…and had Hugh had his wits about him he would have clarified it on the spot…but Hugh was more interested in being stunned.
the left will go all a tizzy…but they won’t talk about Emanuel Cleavers little piece of doggerel about all the opposition to barry being totally because of barry’s pigmentation
of course, leftists see nothing wrong in that…nothing to correct…that is called Truth to Power…right trolls?
r keller on May 16, 2013 at 6:02 PM
AOL called. They want their 3.0 disc back.
Yes, yes. I can only imagine the horror one must feel at the thought of Cozmo being upset with me.
Capitalist Hog on May 16, 2013 at 6:17 PM
Yeah I posted about this too. I repeated the report I heard on the radio.
I’d still like to ask, “Have they actually swept the cloakroom or their offices?”
Zero is capable of anything.
dogsoldier on May 16, 2013 at 6:33 PM
Try to dial it down next time, Moby. You’d be more convincing!
PoliTech on May 16, 2013 at 6:58 PM
Nunes represents my district, which is a solid Republican district. Republicans in California tend to be more conservative than those from other states (such as Massachusetts). He’s been good for the most part. He ran unopposed in the 2010 general election.
eaglescout_1998 on May 16, 2013 at 7:54 PM
Nunes doubles down…
“Today Nunes told reporter David Drucker, “There’s no other explanation.”
Roll Call reported:
Expanding on a Wednesday interview with conservative radio talk show host Hugh Hewitt, Rep. Devin Nunes told me Thursday morning that there is no other explanation in light of the DOJ’s acknowledgment that, as part of its inquiry into national security leaks, it subpoenaed AP phone records from the House press gallery. That’s a prime spot from which reporters frequently initiate and receive telephone calls from members of Congress and their staff.
The California Republican said that the AP phone records scandal that has focused on First Amendment infringement actually runs deeper, and should examine what he is convinced includes an illegal violation of the separation of powers by President Barack Obama’s administration.
“As I pointed out to Hugh Hewitt, there’s no question that Justice knows what members of Congress the AP was talking to during the two-month time period,” Nunes told CQ Roll Call.
Nunes serves on the House Intelligence Committee and, as such, said he has some familiarity with the leak the Department of Justice is investigating, a leak he said many committee members are genuinely concerned about.
The cloakrooms serve as a place for members to socialize, eat, and take naps without leaving the building. These rooms are closed to all except for Senators and Representatives, and a few of their trusted staffers, and even have their own phone numbers.”
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/05/gop-rep-nunes-doubles-down-holder-was-monitoring-house-press-gallery/
workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 9:29 PM
…And if you believe that, you’ll also believe that Obamacrats refused to use the technical information they illegally obtained and refused to listen to the phone because it was contrary to their sense of “fairness”.
landlines on May 17, 2013 at 1:37 AM