Couldn’t happen to a nicer group of parasites. They vote these people in election after election and are beginning to realize a fundamental truth. When you run a socialist state, at some point the state is going to run out of other peoples’ money and are going to come knocking at your door.

Most of the people that are going to be hit by this retroactive tax grab did NOT vote for these jackasses. The state is controlled by a very small, but densely populated area.

Go you sick twisted uneducated idiots in Sacramento……your spending is coming to an end and there is nothing you will be able to do about that. You know it and we know it.

It’s like driving while drinking. If you’re a US citizen, you get put in the slammer. If you’re an illegal alien, you get to go scot free with your fake SS number and food stamps. It’s like college in MD. If you’re gainfully employed, your child will pay through the nose for school with limited student loans available. If you’re an illegal alien, it’s all paid for, as well as your living expenses.

this is lovely irony, i just left the state for Montana, I thought I would just get a wage earning job, but after two weeks here, I believe i will be starting my own business. God what a Sh!t hole I just left. Most of my friends had a blank look when I said I was leaving to the north. Shmucks all of them

19thgenamerican on March 20, 2013 at 11:06 PM

I came to Montana 9 years ago. It’s not just geographic travel; it’s time travel. When I first got here I went into a big auto parts store for something and noticed they had cases of shotgun shells on the end of the checkout counter with a sale sign on them. I hadn’t seen anything like that since I was a kid in the early sixties.

My former CPAs, tax attorneys and now current CPA all state or did state the FTB (California’s tax agency) are worse than the IRS for being jackbooted thugs.

theblacksheepwasright on March 20, 2013 at 10:41 PM

All true, this from an ex GULAG resident who now has to deal with GULAG’s version of IRS: Franchise Tax Board. They really don’t like you leaving the state and do all they can to squeeze you for PAST years of (correct) filings, same as retroactive BS they are now trying to pull. And speaking with other ex-pats this seems their SOP. My CPA has filed all the requested paperwork back in May of last year, called them a few times since to make sure they have received it and will look at it, each and every time they said they will “get to it soon”. Well, as of 2 weeks ago they said “they do not have the paperwork”, never mind FedEx receipts and all the prior phone calls when they said they do have it. We have to start from scratch now, but with lessons learned will now make sure to track each and every page we send them, even to the point of walking the papers in ourselves and having someone sign for them. Nightmare does not begin to describe it.

As my CPA put it, IRS are kids that are a dream to deal with when it comes to Franchise Tax Board. Its Gestapo re-incarnated.

About 2 years ago 2 Franchise Tax Board agents showed up at a Sacramento business to arrest the owner for a supposed money he owed the state. Amount owed? 4 pennies if I recall it correctly, or some such. I kid you not. Hitler was a pussy cat…

California has an estimated 25% of all illegal aliens in the United States, according to estimates I have read. California has 12 percent of the nation’s population, so you have double your share.

You might try leaving your subdivision occasionally.

bw222 on March 20, 2013 at 1:22 PM

The 25% number is low, IMO. Even GULAG liberals admit to roughly 7 Millions of illegals and you can bet they low ball all numbers. Even this liberal admitted to number, 7 Millions, is about a THIRD of all estimated illegals in the country and conveniently matches the welfare recipient number as well (one third).

You can see illegals all over the place save for some ritzy gated neighborhoods, they all stand on large intersections and near Home Depots type stores, looking for day labor jobs. You can’t escape them. Visiting ANY Emergency Room in GULAG will easily show tens of them, at any given time of day or night, awaiting and receiving FREE treatment.

It was recently estimated that GULAG spends about $6-8 Billion per year on illegals. That was before the idiots voted for free higher education for illegals and given the idiotic cost of tuition in GULAG these days you can bet that when properly counted, I would estimate that between $12B and $15 BILLION are wasted on illegals in GULAG alone each and every year. And I am probably estimating too low.

They are especially hard on the area of the eastern shores of Lake Tahoe (Nv side)such as Incline Village which at one point was known for “post office box” residencies

“How would you feel if you made a decision, which was made four years ago, (and) you absolutely knew was legally correct and four years later a governing body came in and said, ‘no, it’s not correct, now you owe us a bunch more money. And we’re going to charge you interest

They are going to do anything they think they can get away with.

California is ripe for Republicans. But they have zero guts.
If Republicans go in there with a hard core unapologetic conservative message who knows what they could achieve.

Imagine how freaked out the Democrat party would become if that happened.. and Republicans started making gains and the state turned red!?

California is one of about 13 states that expect you to pay income tax on pensions earned while a resident of that state regardless of where you live. From what I understand they are the only state actively pursuing people.

Evil

It is unrealistic to expect Voters to make informed decisions, if they don’t speak English well enough to follow the news or to research the issues and candidates that are on the ballot.

Which is exactly the reason the dems prefer immigrants to retain and use their home country languages and provide incentives to keep it that way instead of immigrants being required to immerse themselves in English to use in public and especially for research candidates and issues. Dems also find it easier to lie to immigrants in their own language in what they are given in political material.

In a sharply worded statement Wednesday, Sen. Patrick Leahy, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said his committee will not make its deadline of considering a comprehensive immigration reform bill by the end of April. Abandoning hopes for a quick agreement on the issue, Leahy said, “This process will take time. It will not be easy.”

Directing criticism at the White House, the so-called Gang of 8, and, to a lesser extent, Republicans, Leahy said he has tried to make reform the top priority of the Judiciary Committee. But no one else has gone along.

“For months I have urged the president to send his proposal for comprehensive immigration reform to the Senate,” Leahy said. “I understand he has delayed releasing it at the request of a few senators who are engaged in secret, closed door discussions on their own proposal and who committed to completing it by the beginning of March. That deadline and others have come and gone.”

California: How about a retroactive tax grab, plus interest?

Government as a criminal enterprise.

Over the years, I have made thousands of phone calls at Republican phone banks to Registered Republican Voters. The number of Voters I have called in the San Francisco Bay Area who didn’t speak English well enough to answer the phone was truly astounding.

And these are Registered Voters! Which means they are U.S. Citizens and presumably they either entered the U.S. legally or were born here.

The California Secretary of State supports the lack of English skills by offering voter registration forms in 9 different languages.

With the goal of inspiring and preparing every eligible citizen to vote, the Secretary of State provides this New Voter page, plus election-related materials and voter hotline assistance, in nine additional languages, including Spanish, Chinese, Hindi, Japanese, Khmer, Korean, Tagalog, Thai and Vietnamese.

http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/new-voter/

It is unrealistic to expect Voters to make informed decisions, if they don’t speak English well enough to follow the news or to research the issues and candidates that are on the ballot.

While some of California’s interior counties are really struggling, the wealthy coasts and the tech industry are helping to keep everything propped up

There seems to be a orchestrated plan to pass laws and regulations that intentionally hammer Republican areas of the state (which is what the interior counties are). Cutting off the water to agricultural areas and diverting it to the cities or the “smelt” is one recent example. You can’t farm without water and California gets, in an average year, pretty close to zero rain from June to September. The smelt don’t vote for Democrats but they don’t vote for Republicans, either, so passing regulations that increase the number of smelt while decreasing the number of Republicans seems like a good idea to them.

The Franchise tax board announced two weeks ago that they were not going to send out these bills for sixty days while the legislature fixed the wording in the law, which was written back during Pete Wilson’s watch and I am going to miss.

It gave people a tax break if they invested in businesses with employees in California. Apparently this is unconstitutional and I’d love to find out what moron brought this to the court’s attention.

BTW, don’t mess with FTB, they’re worse than the mafia, and your money is their money until you prove otherwise. I’ve heard stories from aerospace retiree’s about the taxes on their pensions. Doesn’t matter where you retire to, you earned the pension in California, you owe California taxes on it.

California residents working in other states or countries owe California taxes on that money. So if you go to AZ work a job have taxes taken out, expect California to tax you as well.

Resist We Much: The US constitution does apply ex post facto prohibitions to the states in Article 1, clause 10 of the US Constitution.

Vanceone on March 20, 2013 at 1:51 PM

I agree, but Calder v Bull ruled that the ex post facto prohibitions were limited to criminal cases. Civil cases and tax cases were not.

But you are right about Carlton. However, the Court didn’t say any retroactive tax was permissible, only under a specified period that is “modest.” Whatever that means. Carlton said 14 months, but Nichols v. Coolidge, 274 U.S. 531 (1927) said 12 years was way too long (and Coolidge is good law still).

So it’s a crap shoot in between those numbers, for sure.

Correct. I have to leave for a while longer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_to_the_United_States

But, illegal aliens aren’t a major part of California’s problems. lol!

Anyone, who believes that a retroactive tax would raise a tremendous amount of money, is probably not dealing with the reality of the situation.

Since when, in regard to taxes, has the Left ever let the reality of the situation interfere with their intent and actions.