Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on March 18, 2013 by Allahpundit

A blunt self-critique by the national Republican Party concludes that while the GOP is flourishing in many state capitals, it is “increasingly marginalized” and out of touch at the federal level.

In focus groups, voters who had left the Republican Party said they found the GOP to be “scary,” “narrow-minded,” “out of touch” and the party of “stuffy old men.”…

To grow as a party, the RNC assessment points out, Republican policy makers must realize that economically struggling voters “don’t care if the help comes from the private sector or the government—they just want help.”

The report notes that “instead of connecting with voters’ concerns, we too often sound like bookkeepers.”

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A new poll for the Hill newspaper finds that “more voters trust the Democratic Party than the Republican Party on budgetary issues . . . even though a strong majority actually prefer Republican fiscal policies.”…

Even Democrats demonstrated that they prefer what are normally considered GOP budget ideas. Only 44 percent of Democrats polled said deficits should be primarily reduced mostly through raising taxes, versus 40 percent who felt it should be done largely by trimming spending.

That’s the good news for the GOP. The bad news was that, when the two competing budget plans had the labels “Republican” and “Democrat” attached to them, there was a clear change in preference. A full 35 percent of respondents backed the Democrat plan in that case, while only 30 percent trusted the GOP more (the rest said they trusted neither party).

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Ari Fleischer said on Monday that the RNC’s autopsy report is an attempt to “blow a whistle” on the GOP in a bid to make it more inclusive

“We’ve lost that ability to be persuasive with people who don’t agree with us on every issue. And what Republicans need to do I think to have a bright future is to do what the governors have done, which is if someone doesn’t agree with us on every issue – we can still work with them and get things done,” he said. “That’s part of what historically Republicans have done. We need to get back to doing that again.”…

“There is a genuine generational split in the Republican Party on that issue. Many, many young conservatives are for gay rights, are for gay marriage and we openly talk about that, acknowledge that and welcome that,” he said. “That is part of what a big tent should be about. You don’t find that in the Democratic Party.”

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But while the new RNC document may move past Reagan Republicanism, it marks a different kind of restoration: of the campaigns of President George W. Bush, and in particular to his first campaign, which promised “compassionate conservatism.”

And at its core, the report is a glimpse of the party Karl Rove and George W. Bush, assisted by figures like Fleischer and Gerson, sought to create starting in the late 1990s. This was the party in which George W. Bush was elected, but one whose message shifted dramatically on Sept. 11, 2001. From there, Bush ran almost exclusively as a national security president, and by the time he began pitching elements of Social Security privatization in his second term, the move was a non-sequitur and came with none of the halo of compassion of the earlier Bush years. The Tea Party represented a wing of the party — which included some, but certainly not all, of Bush’s own aides — who saw the ostentatious push for “compassion” as a veneer over policies that ought to, they thought, triumph on the merits; and who believed that the contrast with President Barack Obama meant that the veneer was no longer needed. Romney’s private suggestion of a class war between 53% of makers and 47% of takers in the American economy represented a particularly pure version of that.

Now the Republican National Committee is returning to Bush’s original vision. The question is which policies — and in particular, what vision for solving poverty — will accompany that push.

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How to get there? Make the national party, and its nominee, less vulnerable to eruptions from the base. The report calls for the primary debate schedule to be cut back to pre-2008 levels, with maybe a dozen televised forums, and more control over who moderates them…

Missouri’s failed Senate candidate Todd Akin, patron saint of gaffes, mused about the female body’s power to nullify rape because he came out of hard-right religious politics and really believed that stuff. The RNC debuted a way to shut that whole thing down. In the report, they call for “inviting as many voters as possible into the Republican Party by discouraging conventions and caucuses for the purpose of allocating delegates to the national convention.” Take away the caucus system and there’s no Ron Paul movement; there’s no stubborn Rick Santorum candidacy for social conservatives to rally behind.

Do that, and maybe the party can be as conservative as it likes in the states without the national candidate having to sweat it.

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The conventional wisdom among Republican elites about the election congealed seemingly the instant Mitt Romney lost. It was that the party needed to tone down its social-issues talk, embrace comprehensive immigration reform, improve its get-out-the-vote operation, highlight more nonwhite and female spokespersons, shorten the presidential primaries, and take greater control over the primary debates. These recommendations come naturally to Republican elites. Compared to rank-and-file Republicans, they are more likely to favor same-sex marriage and comprehensive immigration reform on principle, and those who are opposed to one or both generally don’t care much about the issues. They don’t, however, tend to have any major problems with the Republican economic agenda and do not believe it needs to be rethought in any serious way. The Republican report reflects this elite conventional wisdom perfectly, just perfectly. That doesn’t mean everything in the report is wrong. I’m inclined to think its suggested reforms of the primary process would be marginally helpful for conservatism. And I have nothing against highlighting Republicans who aren’t white men. The report does not, however, engage in the thorough data-driven analysis of what has gone wrong for Republicans that the party needs.

Take the most explicit policy recommendation the report makes: that Republicans embrace comprehensive immigration reform. The report doesn’t even try to demonstrate that this step would win the party more voters than it loses–which, you might think, is pretty important when political advice is being handed out. It ignores all of the political arguments made by critics of comprehensive reform, let alone the policy arguments.

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For decades, opposition to the Soviet Union was the glue that held the disparate elements of the movement together. For a brief time, it was believed that the Global War on Terrorism might take its place. That hasn’t happened. And it seems the much-needed soul-searching that occurred after Romney’s loss has resulted in a sort of tacit agreement that an amicable divorce might be preferable to the status quo…

It’s going to be a very interesting couple of years. The 2016 primary won’t just be about selecting a standard bearer, it’ll be about picking which standard to bear.

It’s possible we could see radical change that might even lead to the rise of a third party. That could happen if the GOP nominates a candidate deemed unacceptable by any one wing of the movement. On the other hand, if the GOP selects a more traditional conservative, such as, say, Rubio, the re-ordering might be more subtle. Some elements of the conservative movement might have to accept a demotion, of course, but it’s possible they would reluctantly accede to the demands of modernity.

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Note, though, how the report doesn’t actually call for the party to change its position. Just being more “tolerant” of other views doesn’t really seem like it’s going to get the party much of anywhere with young voters. If the party’s platform is still hostile to these issues, then that’s exactly what people will focus on.

As for the sections on immigration and women: It seems like even the RNC has forgotten its own 2012 convention. Much of the advice here to be more inclusive of minorities and women was on full display at the convention, for all the good it did them. The report acknowledges that the party must tackle its reputation with ethnic minorities and “champion comprehensive immigration reform,” but this is not a policy paper and the most important question – What that immigration reform should look like – goes unanswered.

This isn’t to downplay the report. That this kind of messaging is coming directly from the Republican National Committee is important. Fundamentally, though, the only component of the report that actually feels new is its ability to mention the existence of gays without immediately retreating into “traditional marriage” talk.

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[W]hat about those folks who really only vote GOP not because they’re generally conservative but because they have traditional values — as this Twitter exchange shows:

“@MichaelBD: Once the GOP follows Charles Murray’s advice it frees people like me up to vote for Dems on foreign policy, basic competence.”

“@Joncoppage: Not to mention evangelicals concerned about the poor/social justice, increasingly environmental stewardship, etc”

“@MichaelBD: there may be a winning GOP coalition out there, but it isn’t built on Bloomberg voters.”

I like to refer to social conservatives as battered wives, but even battered wives eventually wake up and realize that leaving their man is preferable to what they’re enduring. Well, that or they end up dead…

Are we sure that a) the GOP can be sufficiently liberal enough to compete with honest-to-goodness liberals and b) it will bring in more people than it will lose?

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The only certainty is that the candidate who comes forward as a cookie-cutter “three-legged-stool” (strong defense, economic conservative, social traditionalist) conservative is going to wind up pleasing no one and running into the same limitations that Mitt Romney did: There are not enough of those voters who follow those prescriptions to win the White House.

So where does this lead the party? I believe it will sort itself out in the primary itself, which becomes more akin to constructing a parliamentary majority (alliances, concessions, truces, compromises of convenience). Rand Paul will go for a libertarian majority, while Marco Rubio will present a pro-life, pro-immigration, domestic reform and internationalist agenda. The candidate who can both win the biggest share of and recruit more supporters to the GOP is the winner, and at the end factions agree to disagree on some items in common cause against an opponent devoted to the domineering welfare state.

This is a very attractive proposition. Fitting the party to a real candidate rather than forcing the candidate to contort himself to fit a static platform makes a lot of sense. For one thing, you’ll get a more genuine party leader. For another, the primary will determine where a substantial coalition can be formed. And most important, this puts a premium on policy…

So 2016 wanna-be’s get going: Shape your own agenda, find and recruit your own coalition, and determine how you are going to fund it. But don’t spend any time trying to be all things to all parts of a coalition that for all intents and purposes no longer exists.

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BOO!!

Scrumpy on March 18, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Boehner, Rubio and the other D-lights will desroy the land more than Obama, because they enable him.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 10:44 PM

The GOP hate their base more than they hate socialism.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 10:45 PM

The most “centrist” man, Mitt Romney, was nominated. He lost! I voted for him (and even volunteered–just a little), but the GOP, ahem, leadership doesn’t get it. It’s either willful ignorance or willful disdain for the base.

SouthernGent on March 18, 2013 at 10:45 PM

…Rinsed Peni$…needs to be replaced

KOOLAID2 on March 18, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Either Boehner is dumber than rocks or Obama/Holder have a dossier on him.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Somebody please get the GOP corpse in the ground as it’s starting to smell to high heaven.

VorDaj on March 18, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Ari Fleischer said

…nothing important.

Some elements of the conservative movement might have to accept a demotion, of course, but it’s possible they would reluctantly accede to the demands of modernity.

The possibility is nil. Rubio is unacceptable. Dream on.

I like to refer to social conservatives as battered wives, but even battered wives eventually wake up and realize that leaving their man is preferable to what they’re enduring. Well, that or they end up dead…

Are we sure that a) the GOP can be sufficiently liberal enough to compete with honest-to-goodness liberals and b) it will bring in more people than it will lose?

The mentally retarded developmentally disabled who populate the RNC offices sure believe that way, hmm?

Myron Falwell on March 18, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Rubio is a little Bush.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Replace all the establishment.

2014 is your chance to politically pitchfork all squishes in the House, and some in the Senate.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Boehner, Rubio and the other D-lights

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 10:44 PM

Bayner, of course. Rubio?

AshleyTKing on March 18, 2013 at 10:46 PM

WRONG!!

Socialism is a disease..

Nothing to be calm about.

Fight hard..
Be proud..

WIN!!

Electrongod on March 18, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Rubio?

AshleyTKing on March 18, 2013 at 10:46 PM

See the amnesty thread, on the left column.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Boehner, Rubio and the other D-lights will desroy the land more than Obama, because they enable him.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 10:44 PM

Obama is like an aircraft carrier and they have become like his destroyer escort.

VorDaj on March 18, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Whole lotta hatin’ be going ’round eh?

Good evening my wonderful comrades in arms!! :-)

Scrumpy on March 18, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Rubio is a little Bush.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 10:46 PM


Pic of the Day: Chinese All-U-Can-OB-GYN Menu

lol

Resist We Much on March 18, 2013 at 10:47 PM

‘Toon of the Day: GOP Rebranding

Resist We Much on March 18, 2013 at 10:46 PM

There you go again…

Speaking truth..

Electrongod on March 18, 2013 at 10:48 PM

The moderates double down on failure, eh?

INC on March 18, 2013 at 10:48 PM

Nothing changes as long as the Progs run the media…

d1carter on March 18, 2013 at 10:48 PM

Rubio is a little Bush.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Really? Didn’t hear him wax fantastic about compassionate mumbojumbo.

AshleyTKing on March 18, 2013 at 10:48 PM

Obama is like an aircraft carrier and they have become like his destroyer escort.

VorDaj on March 18, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Indeed. Either they are all derelict constitutional fools or he’s threatened them. I tend to believe the former.

“I fully trust Obama” — Boehner

Fool, he’s got you snookered too.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 10:49 PM

“I fully trust Obama” — Boehner

Fool, he’s got you snookered too.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 10:49 PM

But nobody trusts Boehner.

Resist We Much on March 18, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Ronaldus Magnus attracted many Reagan Democrats to the GOP for the same reason he attracted Conservatives to the GOP:

Strong defense.

Efforts towards limited government.

Small business friendly.

Church friendly.

Optimism focused towards The People and merit not the gummint and set-asides.

A realization is that Communism can only prevail when the right self-defense is eliminated enabling gummint to force compliance with dictatorial and Politburo edicts.

viking01 on March 18, 2013 at 10:50 PM

Electrongod on March 18, 2013 at 10:48 PM

:-)

Resist We Much on March 18, 2013 at 10:50 PM

The moderates double down on failure, eh?

INC on March 18, 2013 at 10:48 PM

Doing the same thing, expecting different results, then calling us low-IQ’d or telling us to off ourselves, like kill ourselves, or something more vulgar…it’s the new MO. Just watch for the memo.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 10:50 PM

INC on March 18, 2013 at 10:48 PM

I began reading your stuff on common core yesterday. Talk about a rabbit hole!

Jackalope on March 18, 2013 at 10:50 PM

Good evening my wonderful comrades in arms!! :-)

Scrumpy on March 18, 2013 at 10:47 PM

I may fly off the handle..

From time-to-time..

But I will take this time to say..
Good evening Scrumpy….

Lets get into this QOTD and see what we can stir up….

Electrongod on March 18, 2013 at 10:51 PM

But nobody trusts Boehner.

Resist We Much on March 18, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Ray of light but not much hope-inspiring…such a fool replace such a fool, same broom, same hammer.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Or…

… the winning message is Conservatism, and all of this is the political elite ruling class trying to hold onto power with a manufactured message being pushed by the liberal media.

Seven Percent Solution on March 18, 2013 at 10:51 PM

To grow as a party, the RNC assessment points out, Republican policy makers must realize that economically struggling voters “don’t care if the help comes from the private sector or the government—they just want help.

GOP policy makers had better realize that they are walking on very thin ice, here. I wish this pathetic party would just finish itself off, already. It is doing nothing good and only stands in the way of conservative representation. This idiotic statement by the RNC shows that they are just Democrats, playing at being on the other side. It’s time the GOP was done away with a an actual Constitutional party allowed to take up the real voice of the base, instead of these slugs we have had to deal with. The fact that the Weeping Boner, who has been nothing short of an unmitigated disaster in everything he’s even touched, was re-elected shows that there is nothing to be fixed in the GOP. It is far beyond repair.

But … I don’t even care that much about the GOP and their leftist idiocy and back-stabbing stupidity. They are small potatoes. The big problem is that we need a national divorce to rid ourselves of the anti-American, anti-Western, anti-civilization left who are slimeballs even lower and more demented than Boner and his gang of idiots. America has died under the left and these cowardly idiots in the GOP. It’s time to start anew, away from these insane leftist who want to have their every action dictated to them by some third world dog-eating retard or some midget Stalin wannabe.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 18, 2013 at 10:51 PM

But nobody trusts Boehner.

Resist We Much on March 18, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Probably not even Boehner… when he’s sober.

viking01 on March 18, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Boehner, Rubio and the other D-lights will desroy the land more than Obama, because they enable him.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 10:44 PM

Today we must all be aware that political expediency and ethnicity takes precedence over constitutional procedure. However you say – WHAT THE – what does this mean… in relation to the tabulation whereby we must once again realize that the great reconquesta story is now being rehearsed before our very eyes, in the rise of Marco Rubio… indicating that only a two-faced, I mean a bi-faced, I mean a bi-lingual hombre can receive…the award for reconquesta, unlike Kenyan Hussein Obama whose reconquesta plans don’t drink water.

And the bi-lingual, I mean the bi-partisan panel, has determined to give the prize to Marco Rubio for his EARNESTY’S RAINBOW. Now EARNESTY’S RAINBOW is a token of this man’s genius…he told me so himself …that he could change perceptions by calling his plan for knocking down those pesky borders EARNESTY …in other words, he could have been more specific, but rather than to allude to an articulation of the mundane, he has come to the conclusion that brevity is the importance of our nation’s shallow first world existence. God damn!

Ladies and Gentlemen. The time will come when a first world America will outlive its usefulness. Marx, either Groucho or Karl, I can’t remember which, maybe it was both or maybe it was Harpo, once said that America is the opiate of the people. I say that when America outlives its usefulness and becomes a majority Spanish speaking nation, then opium…will be the opiate…Ahh that’s not a bad idea… we are going to need that and plenty of it … especially when the booze runs out …

RasThavas on March 18, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Yes! Hopefully the message gets out, and we don’t allow the media to pick who we want…

Scrumpy on March 18, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Now the Republican National Committee is returning to Bush’s original vision. The question is which policies — and in particular, what vision for solving poverty — will accompany that push.

Hillary will run on 2016 and with this thinking, it’s going to be embarrassing.

BedBug on March 18, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Electrongod on March 18, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Yeah!! ;-)

Scrumpy on March 18, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Didn’t hear him wax fantastic about compassionate mumbojumbo.

AshleyTKing on March 18, 2013 at 10:48 PM

Did you hear his CPAC speech? He omitted amnesty altogether, to go out full-fledged today. I hope he self-destructs, soon.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Politically, of course

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Bayner, of course. Rubio?

AshleyTKing on March 18, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Rubio’s a despicable worm.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 18, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Resist We Much on March 18, 2013 at 10:50 PM

It’s like holy water to the current crop…..

Truth that is…

I am amazed how informed our informed voters are…

Astounding..

Electrongod on March 18, 2013 at 10:53 PM

But nobody trusts Boehner.

Resist We Much on March 18, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Probably not even Boehner… when he’s sober.

viking01 on March 18, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Boehner’s Oompa-Loompa spray tan doesn’t even trust Boehner.

Myron Falwell on March 18, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Oh goodie , lets toss all the principals , values and morals out .
Gee , why didn’t I think of that earlier ….lets become democrats !
Will someone please shut these fools down .

Lucano on March 18, 2013 at 10:54 PM

Struggle, tremble, falter, fall
Hopeless, fearfull dreams enthrall
Who like me has felt this way?
Clinged to memories of yesterday
Who in the pit will meet me there
Share in my pain or stop to care?
And can my burden be made light
If I but choose to do the right?
There is one who knows my name
Where I am from whence I came
Even here he speaks to me
Whispers joy that I might see
Then cold, afraid, or lost in sin
A price yet paid for ancient kin
Purchased still for you and me
Nails and thorns and blood you see
How deep my pit but deeper still
Redemption, glory in his will
Struggle, tremble, falter, fall
Take his grasp and hear him call

Rusty Allen on March 18, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Politically, of course

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 10:52 PM

I wouldn’t mind seeing him go up in spontaneous human combustion.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 18, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Bite the bedbugs.

Lanceman on March 18, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Hard to fight “evolving” no matter what you do.

Killary is evolving on everything, and she will continue to evolve until all the evolving is done. If she needs to re-evolve back to where she started then that’s possible too. Later, if a further evolving, re-evolving, or re-re-evolving is necessary, Killary will do it.

How do you fight people who will throw away every shred of their own moral and ethical belief system in order to win, you can’t.

Bishop on March 18, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Jackalope on March 18, 2013 at 10:50 PM

Yeah, I know. I used a lot of links, and I still had dozens left over from many, many sites. I was so overwhelmed at times as I worked to narrow things down to give people basic info and enough links to take them on to where they might learn more.

The MO, UT and GA sites are some of the best.

INC on March 18, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Rubio’s a despicable worm.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 18, 2013 at 10:53 PM

The worms go in
The worms go out
In Rubio’s mouth
And out his snout

VorDaj on March 18, 2013 at 10:56 PM

But nobody trusts Boehner.

Resist We Much on March 18, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Probably not even Boehner… when he’s sober.

viking01 on March 18, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Boehner’s Oompa-Loompa spray tan doesn’t even trust Boehner.

Myron Falwell on March 18, 2013 at 10:53 PM

No kidding. That Oompa-Loompa done “turned” on Orangeman a long time ago.

Resist We Much on March 18, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 10:49 PM

They care nothing for reading or learning, they care only for their pleasure, I will follow your advice as I always do and be prudent, but there will come a day when the yoke of this tyranny will become to heavy for me to suffer!

MarshFox on March 18, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Hillary will run on 2016 and with this thinking, it’s going to be embarrassing.

BedBug on March 18, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Hillary came out of the closet..

Are you going to do that same?

Electrongod on March 18, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Bishop on March 18, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Gary Bauer:

“What we shouldn’t do is say to the electorate, ‘Just tell us what you want us to be! We’ll change for you! Just tell us what you want us to do, we’ll do it!’” he adds. “That’s not a political party, that’s just a bunch of pandering idiots.”

INC on March 18, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Rusty Allen on March 18, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Wonderful poem Rusty!

Scrumpy on March 18, 2013 at 10:58 PM

How do you fight people who will throw away every shred of their own moral and ethical belief system in order to win, you can’t.

Bishop on March 18, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Sure you can. For Shrillary, you just have to pour salt on her.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 18, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Hillary came out of the closet..

Electrongod on March 18, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Her broom closet… no less.

viking01 on March 18, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Bishop on March 18, 2013 at 10:56 PM

I said often that Obama will ‘evolve’ into a whiter-than-his mother Christian by Nov. 6, and into a truly modest and caring character.

Hillary will morph into a black lesbian or transgendered one, no matter which constituency they need on board by 2016.

No, not ribbing the people she’ll morph into, but rather her shady character.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Hillary came out of the closet..

Electrongod on March 18, 2013 at 10:57 PM

She thought she made news and the fools bought it.

Obama came out last year.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Hillary will run on 2016 and with this thinking, it’s going to be embarrassing.

BedBug on March 18, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Hillary came out of the closet..

Are you going to do that same?

Electrongod on March 18, 2013 at 10:57 PM

I’m just saying, Hillary is popular and Reince and company are rebranding you to Lindsey Graham types, it’s going to get ugly.

BedBug on March 18, 2013 at 11:02 PM

Just accept that now all people in the US are gay and soon all will be socialists.

Oh, they all will be of a certain coffee hue too.

Will they have brains?

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Gary Bauer:

“What we shouldn’t do is say to the electorate, ‘Just tell us what you want us to be! We’ll change for you! Just tell us what you want us to do, we’ll do it!’” he adds. “That’s not a political party, that’s just a bunch of pandering idiots.”

INC on March 18, 2013 at 10:58 PM

These are my principles! And if you don’t like them … well … I have others. – Groucho

VorDaj on March 18, 2013 at 11:03 PM

I am ready to be assimilated into the Paul Borg.

Punchenko on March 18, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Will they be free?

They won’t have guns and won’t have a 1st amendment either.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Bishop on March 18, 2013 at 10:56 PM

You can Bishop, but it requires a Cincinnatus, and he will never again be able to reside in the public again, for what he must wrought, will forever banish him from those he has freed!

MarshFox on March 18, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Watch Cyprus.

Putin, bless him, expressed dismay at the tyranny of plundering private savings.

Obama? Not a word.

The RNC/GOP not a word.

Cyprus coming to America, soon.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Thanks, Scrumps.

Rusty Allen on March 18, 2013 at 11:06 PM

Chrissy!

KCB on March 18, 2013 at 11:06 PM

I’m just saying, Hillary is popular and Reince and company are rebranding you to Lindsey Graham types, it’s going to get ugly.

BedBug on March 18, 2013 at 11:02 PM

Bed..

There is no re-branding here..

And I can probably speak for most on this thread..

These pols don’t represent us..

Plain and simple..

Is Hillary popular?

You be the judge….

Electrongod on March 18, 2013 at 11:06 PM

VorDaj on March 18, 2013 at 11:03 PM

:) I’d forgotten about that Groucho quote. Nailed it.

INC on March 18, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Arrrrgh!

Good night, all. I need to regroup, lol.

Fallon on March 18, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Will they have brains?

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Survey says… no.

Punchenko on March 18, 2013 at 11:08 PM

I think we’re screwed. The fact that that shrew with no qualifications could actually be elected after the eight disastrous years is a testament to how stupid the electorate and the Rethuglicans have become.

Keep sending me money requests, ‘thuglicans. I hope you piss away all your money.

God knows you’ve pissed away mine indirectly.

Lanceman on March 18, 2013 at 11:08 PM

I never thought I’d say this – but if the GOP keeps going down this path – a third party is not only viable in 2016 it could win.

In other news – dude that guy who plays Satan kind of sort of really looks like Obama.

gophergirl on March 18, 2013 at 11:09 PM

RWM, that re-branding cartoon is brilliant.

The Chinese one is funny. Boehner is Pelosi :)

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 11:09 PM

I’m just saying, Hillary is popular and Reince and company are rebranding you to Lindsey Graham types, it’s going to get ugly.

BedBug on March 18, 2013 at 11:02 PM

Bed..

There is no re-branding here..

And I can probably speak for most on this thread..

These pols don’t represent us..

Plain and simple..

Is Hillary popular?

You be the judge….

Electrongod on March 18, 2013 at 11:06 PM

John McCain, Mitt Romney, John Boehner re-elected as speaker, Mitch McConnell, they have the power to work on legislation that the horde here will hate and they will do it despite your threats.
Your leaders betray you. Every day. RNC chairman fired the first shot for a Chris Chrisite 2016 run today.
And, you will like it.

BedBug on March 18, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Good night, all. I need to regroup, lol.

Fallon on March 18, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Not yet!!!

Stick around..

:)

See ya tomorrow..

Electrongod on March 18, 2013 at 11:09 PM

KCB on March 18, 2013 at 11:06 PM

Ken!! :-)

Scrumpy on March 18, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Will they have brains?

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 11:03 PM

God and Darwin both say no.

VorDaj on March 18, 2013 at 11:11 PM

And, you will like it.

BedBug on March 18, 2013 at 11:09 PM

That’s stinkfish talk!

Lanceman on March 18, 2013 at 11:11 PM

Ken!

Rusty Allen on March 18, 2013 at 11:11 PM

Rusty!!

Rusty Allen on March 18, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Lanceman on March 18, 2013 at 11:08 PM

If we all quit sending them money, might they get the message?

Scrumpy on March 18, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Oops

Rusty Allen on March 18, 2013 at 11:12 PM

In focus groups, voters who had left the Republican Party said they found the GOP to be “scary,” “narrow-minded,” “out of touch” and the party of “stuffy old men.”…

We should have figured that out with Clinton. Though the mere thought of the Clintoons makes me want to retch, most Americans found Slick Willy not only to be super intelligent (because the DNC and the LSM said so) but rather charming with that soothing crackly voice-and his wife to be at least as much off the IQ charts as her philandering hubby and a strong woman who was just such a go-getter.

I’m thinking the GOP realizes they’re never going to win the Shite House ever again as they will never see so much as a mere left-of-center media, and Reagans are few and far between. I think Bush squeaked by twice because Lurch and Global Warming Gorebels sucked just a tad too much for just enough voters.

So they’ll continue to gravitate towards the social aspects of Libertarianism in order to possibly attract voters and get the LSM off their backs…good luck with that.

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 18, 2013 at 11:13 PM

And, you will like it.

BedBug on March 18, 2013 at 11:09 PM

No more. I quit the Rs years ago, before it was fashionable. They have not received a penny in many years. Hallelujah for that insight.

Last year was the last time I put up with any squishes, here and outside of here. No constitutionalist, no support, not even by voting. It’ll be a first but so what? If they don’t learn let them go to Hell, pronto, all of them.

Enabling them is as bad as enabling Obama.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 11:13 PM

If we all quit sending them money, might they get the message?

Scrumpy on March 18, 2013 at 11:12 PM

That’s my plan – candidate only.

gophergirl on March 18, 2013 at 11:13 PM

And, you will like it.

BedBug on March 18, 2013 at 11:09 PM

That’s stinkfish talk!

Lanceman on March 18, 2013 at 11:11 PM

I’m saying the same thing you are, Lanceman.
Are you stinky too?

BedBug on March 18, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Hi Rusty!

KCB on March 18, 2013 at 11:14 PM

John McCain, Mitt Romney, John Boehner re-elected as speaker, Mitch McConnell, they have the power to work on legislation that the horde here will hate and they will do it despite your threats.
Your leaders betray you. Every day. RNC chairman fired the first shot for a Chris Chrisite 2016 run today.
And, you will like it.

BedBug on March 18, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Did I ..
Did We have anything to say about this?

Messaging…

Remember that?

Well it’s time has come…
People that ain’t into politics are now asking questions..

Who is their leader???

Who is AWAL?

History will show failure….

But it can only be recorded by popular vote..

Electrongod on March 18, 2013 at 11:15 PM

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 11:03 PM

No Brains, just feelings, all they got are feelings

Scrumpy on March 18, 2013 at 11:15 PM

And, you will like it.

BedBug on March 18, 2013 at 11:09 PM

No more. I quit the Rs years ago, before it was fashionable. They have not received a penny in many years. Hallelujah for that insight.

Last year was the last time I put up with any squishes, here and outside of here. No constitutionalist, no support, not even by voting. It’ll be a first but so what? If they don’t learn let them go to Hell, pronto, all of them.

Enabling them is as bad as enabling Obama.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 11:13 PM

You quit them years ago, but they still got your vote last year. And, when Chris Christie or Marco Rubio, or Jeb Bush are primary winners in 2015, you will vote for them again.
Unless you’re ready to jump on Team Hillary?

BedBug on March 18, 2013 at 11:15 PM

God Made A Democrat

Mirimichi on March 18, 2013 at 11:15 PM

I’m saying the same thing you are, Lanceman.
Are you stinky too?

BedBug on March 18, 2013 at 11:13 PM

No, that’s exactly what that sack of crap troll said about Mittens.

Lanceman on March 18, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Gallup: Hillary most admired woman in history

This tells you how much ‘civilization’ has regressed. It has been on a slide since the 30s, then more so since the 60s, but since 2000 it has gone exponentially toward the abyss.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 11:16 PM

What do all these brands – Plymouth, Eagle, Oldsmobile, Saturn and Mercury – have in common? They all went through major rebranding programs. What else do they have in common? They all no longer exist.

I worked for one of Chrysler’s marketing agencies in the 1990s when they tried to re-brand Plymouth and Eagle. The target psychographics for the Eagle Vision were unbelievable. The husband was an Ivy League grad and a corporate vice president. The wife got her degree from Northwestern and was president of the Junior League. The children were geniuses and the daughter was an 8-year old local concert pianist.

If you remember the Eagle Vision, it was simply a more upscale Dodge Intrepid. Just as Chrysler was targeting Lexus, Infiniti and BMW owners who wouldn’t be caught dead in an Eagle Vision, the GOP establishment wants to target people who will never vote Republican.

bw222 on March 18, 2013 at 11:17 PM

Electrongod on March 18, 2013 at 11:09 PM

I just can’t take the GOPe anymore. It’s like they are trying to be idiots. Plus, my dear laptop gave up the ghost and I have to post with my Angry Birds player (aka iPad thingy.) the frustration is just too much tonight, but tomorrow is a new day. :).

As God is my witness, they’re not going to lick me. I’m going to live through this, and when it’s all over, I’ll never vote RINO again. No, nor any of my folks. If I have to lie, steal, cheat or kill . As God is my witness, I’ll never vote RINO again

Fallon on March 18, 2013 at 11:18 PM

BedBug on March 18, 2013 at 11:15 PM

You’re not going to get anywhere. Reread what I typed. Not voting is my still free person option. I will not vote for Ron Paul.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Yes, I know Ron Paul will not be on the ticket, but whoever is on the independents’ roster.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Hi Everyone

CoffeeLover on March 18, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Hi Everyone

CoffeeLover on March 18, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Hi – you need stronger coffee.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 11:19 PM

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