Producers of “The Bible” miniseries: No way were we trying to make Satan look like Obama

posted at 4:01 pm on March 18, 2013 by Allahpundit

C’mon. I thought the consensus on the right was that Satan looks like Karl Rove.

The bad news? The producers have a media shinolastorm on their hands over what was almost certainly an innocent casting decision. The good news? We now have a new front-page thumbnail for when Obama pushes an especially terrible policy.

“The Bible” Executive Producers, Mark Burnett & Roma Downey said Monday:

“This is utter nonsense. The actor who played Satan, Mehdi Ouzaani, is a highly acclaimed Moroccan actor. He has previously played parts in several Biblical epics– including Satanic characters long before Barack Obama was elected as our President.

“The Bible” Executive Producer Roma Downey adds:

Both Mark and I have nothing but respect and love our President, who is a fellow Christian. False statements such as these are just designed as a foolish distraction to try and discredit the beauty of the story of The Bible.”

Important footnote: Not only has Burnett donated to the Democratic National Committee, he maxed out in donating to Obama himself in 2008. That’s a strange thing to do for a man who’s accused of thinking O is the Father of Lies. And no, there’s not much chance that Burnett has since changed his mind. You’ve seen the poll numbers among Democrats on keeping Gitmo open and using drones against American citizens. There’s virtually nothing The One can do as president, including adopting the Bushitler’s policies, that would alienate an O-bot who was devout enough to drop several thousand bucks on him a few years ago. If anything, be happy Burnett didn’t cast the Obama lookalike as Jesus. Although that would, at least, have been true to the spirit of O’s fans in Hollywood and the media circa five years ago.

Burnett himself has an … interesting theory for the resemblance:

Burnett — a deeply religious man — tells TMZ … he believes there is a devil on earth. Burnett says the devil has stirred the pot and created a false likeness between Obama and the TV devil.

Why, you ask, would the real devil care about a TV show? Fact is … the show is HUGELY popular and is having a big impact on viewers. Burnett notes the show last night featured a face-to-face meeting between Jesus and the devil … BUT it’s not the first time the TV devil has appeared on the show. The TV devil appeared in the Garden of Eden scene awhile back and no one said anything.

Burnett believes the real devil is scared that Jesus has now entered the picture and is trying to distract from Jesus’ message by creating a false story.

Satan’s trying to derail the message by … generating an amazingly valuable publicity stunt for the production? I.e. the lord of eternal death reimagined as the lord of eternal debt? I’ve watched five minutes of the series so far but next week is now appointment viewing just so I can see Jesus square off with “Obama.” No surer way than that to get a conservative atheist to reconsider, my friends. (Then again, there’s not much to reconsider. Evidently, most atheists already believe in God.)

I’ll leave you with this from John McCormack, who gets to the heart of the matter in a very Jack Handy-ish way:


Related Posts:

Breaking on Hot Air

Blowback

Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

Comments

Comment pages: 1 2 3 4 5

Thanks ktmol. I like all of the “combatants” and hope, at the end of the day, they like each other. I think they do.

22044 on March 18, 2013 at 5:53 PM

I do.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Wow. This little TV show really has the libruls in a full-on freak-out panic.

Rational Thought on March 18, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Hah

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 5:56 PM

What is amusing about that? What evidence do you have that she can not translate Ancient Greek and Hebrew?

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Wow. This little TV show really has the libruls in a full-on freak-out panic.

Rational Thought on March 18, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Most fun I’ve had all day.

katy the mean old lady on March 18, 2013 at 6:00 PM

Com’on all you biblical scholars. The movie is never as good as the book. It’s a well known fact. I am sure the idea was to create enough interest in the non-church going population to pick up the book and read it. It’s a book that requires thought. I am sure that was the intent. Read and think.

However, I didn’t realize that Satan looked like Obama until this morning when I saw still pictures of the actor in make-up and without. Without make-up he looks like a regular kind of guy. With make-up he does look like Obama. I just wonder what that production meeting was like. It may have been an innocent portrayal. I am sure that the make-up artist was inspired and this is what came about. God works in mysterious ways and this was one of them.

BetseyRoss on March 18, 2013 at 6:00 PM

If anyone is interested, The Bible is playing on Lifetime right now. Part I just wrapped up, with Part II starting. Then last night’s installment is next.

Liam on March 18, 2013 at 6:01 PM

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 5:54 PM

Why I don’t consider you a troll. On good moments one can converse with you. Unfortunately you then go losing it :)

Agreed on that comment.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Have I previously called a post the dumbest ever?
I have to admit I was wrong then.

verbaluce on March 18, 2013 at 6:01 PM

As suspected, her leftism corrupts her faith, rather than a pure & incorruptible faith informing her politics.

22044 on March 18, 2013 at 5:55 PM

Really? You’re going to accuse a woman who has devoted her life to studying and teaching the Bible, and is an ordained Christian minister, as having a corrupted faith? The arrogance is astounding.

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Most fun I’ve had all day.

katy the mean old lady on March 18, 2013 at 6:00 PM

This thread is better than most in weeks, asides aside.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Funny how the Left thinks that Obama looks like the Devil in the first place. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be able to even think of asking such a question.

MrX on March 18, 2013 at 6:02 PM

Have I previously called a post the dumbest ever?
I have to admit I was wrong then.

verbaluce on March 18, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Why you remain a benevolent, sometimes simpatico, not-so-discerning mind.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 6:02 PM

Sometimes the truth is the truth.

katiejane on March 18, 2013 at 6:03 PM

While cinematically superior, The Ten Commandments with Charlton Heston alsoplayed it loosely for “dramatic purposes” as well. So do most Biblical adaptations.

AverageJoe on March 18, 2013 at 6:03 PM

I just love a brilliant theologian exposing the foolish propaganda of American evangelicalism for what it is. Go ‘head Doctor Gafney.

http://www.wilgafney.com/2013/03/17/jesus-bible-and-the-history-channels-bible/

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 5:39 PM

Not so much biblical scholars who point out the evils and foolish propaganda of the American homosexual agenda though, I’m guessing… Why no love for them, I wonder?

That you transparently gravitate to questionable theologians of questionable faith and Biblical understanding – and cherry-pick the parts you like, ignoring the parts you don’t – isn’t entirely suprising, of course. :)

Midas on March 18, 2013 at 6:04 PM

Rorschach test for the politically-correct, perpetually insulted crowd.

Knott Buyinit on March 18, 2013 at 6:04 PM

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 5:59 PM

It was the entire quote…Huffington and etc.

On the translations, it just doesn’t make it independent. That’s all.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 6:05 PM

“Mark and I have nothing but respect and love our President, who is a fellow Christian.”

It’s a sin to tell a lie.

Basilsbest on March 18, 2013 at 5:55 PM

Something tells me you don’t really get the sinning concept that well…

verbaluce on March 18, 2013 at 6:05 PM

Brilliant series of critiques on The Bible series

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM

“Brilliant”, Perfesser? How come each of these “brilliant critiques” of hers get only 2 or 3 comments? And how come she doesn’t even have her own wiki page? BTW, up here in northern New England, “PhD” stands for “Piled High and Deep.”

In reading her essay specifically about this issue, she complains about how the casting was done, while totally ignoring the fact that the producers have been quite up front in explaining how they cast the actors.

I would call her critique interesting, but hardly “brilliant”, unless one is a HuffPo acolyte like yourself. In fact, her website (she’s really full of herself, too-the website seems to be more about her than about her ideas) proudly headlines her association with that prime “news source” for Low Information Democrats. I doubt any serious religious scholar would do something like that and expect to be taken seriously.

Del Dolemonte on March 18, 2013 at 6:05 PM

And they even ignore the horrific sexual violence perpetrated against women and girls within Israel…
libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Four thousand years ago?

News for you, Progressive: Islamics are committing horrific sexual violence against prepubescent girls TODAY. In the West. It’s called FGM — Female Genital Mutilation. It’s practiced regularly under Sharia Law.

Teachers were today told they must report female genital mutilation to police as a heart-rending letter from an 11-year-old London girl whose sister was sent abroad to be cut was published by campaigners. The letter, sent to London charity Equality Now, tells how the girl’s 12-year-old sister was subjected to the procedure by aunts at her grandmother’s home.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/clitorectomyfgm-islamic-misogyny/

Nevermind the overall second-class citizenship of women under Islamic Law.

Hey Left — anybody home?

rrpjr on March 18, 2013 at 6:06 PM

You’ve got people thinking this is “The Bible.” Her essays document exactly why that is wrong and potentially dangerous.

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 5:47 PM

Anyone who has read any version of the Bible from cover to cover knows that the miniseries isn’t the Bible. Of course you know that there on many verses that deal with non-dramatic items and don’t lend themselves to 7 second attention spans like yours. UREZ

chemman on March 18, 2013 at 6:06 PM

libwhodoesntdeseretobefree has usurped the thread, is trolling.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 6:06 PM

Really? You’re going to accuse a woman who has devoted her life to studying and teaching the Bible, and is an ordained Christian minister, as having a corrupted faith? The arrogance is astounding.

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 6:01 PM

I will know a good tree by its fruit, not by its knowledge.

But you would push your “scholar” whom you think is great, just because you agree with her stupid politics. I’ve never seen you post any understanding of Scripture here. What have you been hiding? /

22044 on March 18, 2013 at 6:07 PM

lib, denounce the muzzies of today. You’ve got 1001 reasons to do so, PC and “oh, it’s just their culture” aside.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Always remember that hawk has been through far worse than disagreeing with normally like minded anonymous people on a blog and come out shining. No one can take that away. Nor is anyone trying.

Cindy Munford on March 18, 2013 at 5:57 PM

No, of course not, Cindy. I just appreciate the hill he was battling on. :)

kim roy on March 18, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Really? You’re going to accuse a woman who has devoted her life to studying and teaching the Bible, and is an ordained Christian minister, as having a corrupted faith? The arrogance is astounding.

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Plenty of people have historically studied something all their lives, gotten it wrong, and been ‘ordained’ by others who are similarly wrong.

It doesn’t make them ‘right’.

Come now, play the devil’s advocate (no pun intended); there are countless examples of converative, anti-Keynesian economists who suggest that your economic theories are rubbish – do you count them as experts, or ‘right’? How about theologians who are anti-homosexual, have dedicated their lives to studying and teaching the Bible, and are ‘ordained’ – are they experts, or do you think they are wrong?

Come now, we’re waiting to hear how arrogant you are, or whether you accept these people as experts and acknowledge that they are incorruptable by the same standard you just laid out…

Midas on March 18, 2013 at 6:09 PM

And while we’re on the topic of popular depictions of Christ. All American evangelicals should listen to this interview from Edward Blum

http://www.npr.org/2012/11/19/165473220/color-of-christ-a-story-of-race-and-religion-in-america

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 6:10 PM

It just can’t be helped.
If you cast a 12 year old girl as Satan, in short order she would end up looking like Obama.
.
Obama=Satan.
Satan=Obama.
.
The science is settled.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on March 18, 2013 at 6:10 PM

You were all over my prizewinning crabgrass!

katy the mean old lady on March 18, 2013 at 5:54 PM

Yes, it did take a long time and lots of effort to get it in such a fine state.

*runs*

kim roy on March 18, 2013 at 6:11 PM

Does Satan wear a little crash helmet when biking on Martha’s Vineyard?

profitsbeard on March 18, 2013 at 6:12 PM

Here’s Dr Gafney’s twitter bio: https://twitter.com/WilGafney

LMFAO!

Resist We Much on March 18, 2013 at 5:53 PM

No wonder she’s afraid to have a wiki page. As Wile E. Coyote used to say, “Sheer, unadulterated brilliance!”

Each of her “brilliant essays” in fact have garnered less response than the Perfesser has here for posting them.

Del Dolemonte on March 18, 2013 at 6:12 PM

And while we’re on the topic of popular depictions of Christ. All American evangelicals should listen to this interview from Edward Blum

http://www.npr.org/2012/11/19/165473220/color-of-christ-a-story-of-race-and-religion-in-america

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Can’t ignore race in anything, can you?

nobar on March 18, 2013 at 6:13 PM

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Ok, who had “6:10 PM” in the “libfreeordie randomly brings up race again” pool?

Midas on March 18, 2013 at 6:13 PM

It just can’t be helped.
If you cast a 12 year old girl as Satan, in short order she would end up looking like Obama.
.
Obama=Satan.
Satan=Obama.
.
The science is settled.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on March 18, 2013 at 6:10 PM

And you’re a Dr. so you should know.

Flange on March 18, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Though I suspect we might disagree on the messages Hollywood sends out. I think they are particularly focused on valorizing shallowness, consumerism, unrepentant individualism and self centered-ness.

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 5:54 PM

Apparently you watch a lot of reality shows and Jerry Springer.

John the Libertarian on March 18, 2013 at 6:14 PM

LOL You don’t even know what she means by that. But even if it is whatever you are imagining it to be, what on earth does it have to do with her credentials or her analysis. I believe that conservatives claim to be rational, which means they assess arguments on their merit. Unless you can offer up a corrective to her arguments, then your childish finger pointing and squealing about who she may or may not be is actually irrelevant. The fact that you are trying to make something significant out of her twitter profile, when her posts illustrate a mastery of Biblical history shows how threatened you are by her brilliance.

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Not a Conservative. I’m also an atheist.

Why on earth would I be threatened by her????

Why would I be threatened by anyone who luvs dem sum America-hating Jeremiah Wright?

Resist We Much on March 18, 2013 at 6:16 PM

To achieve closer similarity, they need to add a few flies.

Archivarix on March 18, 2013 at 4:08 PM

So let it be done.

profitsbeard on March 18, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Ok, who had “6:10 PM” in the “libfreeordie randomly brings up race again” pool?

Midas on March 18, 2013 at 6:13 PM

On another thread, and about 90 minutes ago, libfree denied being obsessed with race.

Liam on March 18, 2013 at 6:17 PM

Really? You’re going to accuse a woman who has devoted her life to studying and teaching the Bible, and is an ordained Christian minister, as having a corrupted faith?
libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Obviously an academic talking. The presumed equivalence between “scholarliness” and total unassailable moral authority is pretty amusing. After having grown up in the Berkeley-Harvard nexus and being surrounded, family wise, by post-graduate and tenured “scholars,” my FIRST impulse now is to question what they tell me. Indeed, I accuse the entire academic enterprise of “corrupted faith.”

rrpjr on March 18, 2013 at 6:18 PM

To achieve closer similarity, they need to add a few flies.

Archivarix on March 18, 2013 at 4:08 PM

So let it be done some more.

profitsbeard on March 18, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Ok, who had “6:10 PM” in the “libfreeordie randomly brings up race again” pool?

Midas on March 18, 2013 at 6:13 PM

On another thread, and about 90 minutes ago, libfree denied being obsessed with race.

Liam on March 18, 2013 at 6:17 PM

LOL, I know – you couldn’t make up a more ridiculous caricature of a clueless leftist if you tried.

Midas on March 18, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Riiiiiiight.

stingray9813 on March 18, 2013 at 6:20 PM

there are countless examples of converative, anti-Keynesian economists who suggest that your economic theories are rubbish – do you count them as experts, or ‘right’?

I would never question their “expertise,” that’s a very specific term. But I would not claim to know more about economics than them. What I can do, however, is put compare two texts. So when I read leftist critique of Hayek, for example, I tend to find their arguments more compelling. Like these articles for example:

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/01/philip-pilkington-the-origins-of-neoliberalism-part-i-hayeks-delusion.html

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/01/philip-pilkington-the-origins-of-neoliberalism-part-ii-the-americanisation-of-hayeks-delusion.html

Until someone on the right can unpack Piklkington’s argument on its merits why shouldn’t we give it credence, if not some level of supremacy.

The same are the theological experts who are opposed to homosexuality. There’s just a lot of compelling scholarship which suggests that references to “homosexual” in the New Testament is a mistranslation and does not assume a world of two male adults in a monogamous relationship.

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 6:20 PM

And, here’s Dr Gafney with her faves, Rev Jeremiah Wright and Cornell West.

Resist We Much on March 18, 2013 at 6:11 PM

I knew it. Now we know why she’s the “brilliant” scholar.

rrpjr on March 18, 2013 at 6:21 PM

So, you admitted that lots from Hollywood is “wrong and potentially dangerous”.

Hollywood was used loosely, meaning the movies in general.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2013 at 5:50 PM

I absolutely think that. Cultural products are really powerful and absolutely influence society. Though I suspect we might disagree on the messages Hollywood sends out. I think they are particularly focused on valorizing shallowness, consumerism, unrepentant individualism and self centered-ness. You probably think they are secretly collectivist or something.

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 5:54 PM

Doesn’t the fact that Hollywood is 99% Leftist Democrat automatically disqualify your final sentence?

I was lifelong friends with a well known writer and later screenwriter. After moving his family to Hollywood in the early 1960s for a year so he could work on a movie project, he was so disgusted by the Leftist closed society mentality he found out there that he thereafter refused to live there, and for the rest of his life wrote his screenplays-one of which was nominated for an Oscar-from his home here in New England.

No, the collectivism of Hollywood is not just some figment of the Right’s imagination. The case I cite above proves that.

Del Dolemonte on March 18, 2013 at 6:21 PM

So let it be done.

profitsbeard on March 18, 2013 at 6:16 PM

That immediately makes me think of a scene from Monty Python’s “The Holy Grail”, but spoken with a tiny fly-voice instead:

“Oh, Dennis – there’s some *lovely* filth over *here*!”

O must’ve been been offering up some particularly oderous verbal crap to attract that kind of winged attention.

Midas on March 18, 2013 at 6:22 PM

kim roy on March 18, 2013 at 6:11 PM

I believe a pig use to have the run of her place but two HotAirians absconded with it.

Cindy Munford on March 18, 2013 at 6:23 PM

What evidence do you have that she can not translate Ancient Greek and Hebrew?

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 5:59 PM

What evidence do you have that she can? We can’t even find a formal bio of her.

Del Dolemonte on March 18, 2013 at 6:23 PM

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 5:47 PM

You trying to lecture Evangelicals Christians, like myself, on Christianity, is like verbaluce presenting a lecture on humility.

Gimmeabreak.

kingsjester on March 18, 2013 at 6:24 PM

LOL, I know – you couldn’t make up a more ridiculous caricature of a clueless leftist if you tried.

Midas on March 18, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Just a reminder (and I don’t think this is unfair because it happened on a Hot Air thread) – lfod is a confirmed sexist & misogynist.

22044 on March 18, 2013 at 6:25 PM

The same are the theological experts who are opposed to homosexuality. There’s just a lot of compelling scholarship which suggests that references to “homosexual” in the New Testament is a mistranslation and does not assume a world of two male adults in a monogamous relationship.

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 6:20 PM

I’m sure all of that other stuff you were railing against and supporting Dr. Gafney about was, however, translated correctly, right?

Just the ‘homosexual’ bits that you personally find uncomfortable were mistranslated?

Midas on March 18, 2013 at 6:26 PM

Edward Blum

http://www.npr.org/2012/11/19/165473220/color-of-christ-a-story-of-race-and-religion-in-america

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Who’s he? Like Wil Gaffney, he seems to be afraid of having a wiki page.

Del Dolemonte on March 18, 2013 at 6:30 PM

What evidence do you have that she can? We can’t even find a formal bio of her.

Del Dolemonte on March 18, 2013 at 6:23 PM

You are accusing her of fabricating her degrees, and she managed to fool both a hiring committee and the tenure process? OK……

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 6:30 PM

The same are the theological experts who are opposed to homosexuality. There’s just a lot of compelling scholarship which suggests that references to “homosexual” in the New Testament is a mistranslation and does not assume a world of two male adults in a monogamous relationship.

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 6:20 PM

So now you’re trying to spin the Bible when you really have no respect?

Pervert.

CW on March 18, 2013 at 6:31 PM

You are accusing her of fabricating her degrees, and she managed to fool both a hiring committee and the tenure process? OK……

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 6:30 PM

In other words you don’t know.

CW on March 18, 2013 at 6:33 PM

Don’t think Downey & Burnett had any intention of making Satan look like Obama- but I’m laughing at the resemblance & resulting kerfuffle.

As to the series- I like it, think it’s a good story, but it’s obviously a slightly right-of-center Hollywood version of the scripture. Pretty faithful to the general story so far, with some notable omissions & pc slanting.

I think it was a monumental, well-nigh impossible task to try to tell the whole book in 5 episodes, and that may be it’s final undoing. Just not sure they are taking time to go deeply into anything, and having to leave far too much out.

But, I’m enjoying this “CliffNotes” version of a modernized version of the eternal story. It’s much more edifying to the viewing public than another episode about the Civil War, or Pawn Stars, a nature documentary, etc. (all of which I also enjoy) IMO.

cs89 on March 18, 2013 at 6:33 PM

Who’s he? Like Wil Gaffney, he seems to be afraid of having a wiki page.

Del Dolemonte on March 18, 2013 at 6:30 PM

All I can do is laugh. You’re actually saying that the only way a person’s opinion matters is if they have a wiki page. A wikipedia page! LOL! So funny.

But because you apparently can not use google, here is Gafney’s faculty bio

http://ltsp.edu/people/wgafney

And here’s Edward’s. I know, I know, its all fabricated unless its on wikipedia!

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 6:34 PM

All everyone needs to know about our troll:

But I have a hard time getting too upset about a 45 year old guy and a 16 year old guy having sex. Maybe its because when I was under 18 (17 to be exact) I had a bit of an affair with an older man (early 30s)…and it was AWESOME. Its exactly what I wanted, I pursued it, he was smoking hot, I was 17 and (as most of the male posters will attest to) extremely interested in having sex. I wasn’t abused or exploited. And there’s no question that a year earlier I would have been just fine as well. Because by 16 I was, at least in terms of my sexual desires, really, really clear what I wanted. I think most 16 year old boys are. Like…how does a “vulnerable” 16 year old find their way onto a gay sex chat-line anyway?

libfreeordie on November 20, 2012 at 6:16 PM

I just think we’re doing the wrong thing having a moral panic over a 32 year old and a 16 year old.

libfreeordie on November 20, 2012 at 6:16 PM

I think 16 should be the age of consent when it comes to sexual activity. I think 18 for voting. I think 21 for gun ownership, alcohol, cigarettes and marijuana (which should be legal).

libfreeordie on November 20, 2012 at 6:27 PM

CW on March 18, 2013 at 6:39 PM

CW on March 18, 2013 at 6:39 PM

I’m just going to assume that whenever someone posts that, they have no response to my points.

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 6:41 PM

CW on March 18, 2013 at 6:39 PM

That Taco Bell Express lunch came back up a few hours earlier than normal.

Chuck Schick on March 18, 2013 at 6:42 PM

Heh… so it wasn’t my imagination.

I had that show on, and was half-watching it… then I saw ‘him’, and part of my brain went, WTH???

Now I am vastly amused.

(Actually, I’m totally amused…)

This makes my week… on a Monday no less.

CPT. Charles on March 18, 2013 at 6:42 PM

I believe a pig use to have the run of her place but two HotAirians absconded with it.

Cindy Munford on March 18, 2013 at 6:23 PM

You are quite the troublemaker, Miss Cindy.

I won’t ask who the two HotAirians are but the subtext sounds interesting. ;)

kim roy on March 18, 2013 at 6:45 PM

Well…..if the shoe fits

jaywemm on March 18, 2013 at 6:46 PM

I honestly believe that the producers of “The Bible” had no intention to make Satan look like Obama. However, I do see the hand of God. Why not since Obama is a champion of abortion, the killing of the innocent

lperello on March 18, 2013 at 6:49 PM

I’m just going to assume that whenever someone posts that, they have no response to my points.

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 6:41 PM

And I am going to continue to expose you for the pervert you are. So you enjoy.

Dimwit….you have not moral high ground.

You need to tell everyone in your personal life about your beliefs so they can mind you and your “interests’. Me suspects your simply jealous of many of those perverted homosexual priests. You’re nasty and gross. You come near my kids or relatives and kick your a**.

CW on March 18, 2013 at 6:51 PM

Why not since Obama is a champion of abortion, the killing of the innocent

lperello on March 18, 2013 at 6:49 PM

Born and unborn.

CW on March 18, 2013 at 6:53 PM

Because, of course, EVERYTHING must be about Obama.

Is there nothing, nothing at all, these people won’t try to insert an Obama (or racism) storyline into?

Robert_Paulson on March 18, 2013 at 6:54 PM

CW on March 18, 2013 at 6:39 PM

That Taco Bell Express lunch came back up a few hours earlier than normal.

Chuck Schick on March 18, 2013 at 6:42 PM

No doubt and I have made it my duty to make sure everyone knows who Libfree really is.

CW on March 18, 2013 at 6:54 PM

By the way, I’m half way convinced this whole ‘Does Obama look like Satan?’ pseudo-scandal is just a truly genius PR play by Burnett and the History Channel promo people.

Robert_Paulson on March 18, 2013 at 6:58 PM

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 6:41 PM

As my fellow advocates for liberty would agree, not every argument is won by intellect.

When you have significant character defects they corrupt any intelligent arguments you present. You should not be taken seriously.
I usually try to ignore you. I wish others would too, but they may see this matter differently from me and they are mature to make that call for themselves.

22044 on March 18, 2013 at 7:00 PM

Evidently, most atheists already believe in God.

The article says atheists react in ways that show that they believe there is at least a CHANCE that God exists, which means that they aren’t really athiests.

Unless you can say that you’re 100% certain that God doesn’t exist, then you are not an atheist, you’re agnostic. “I don’t really know for sure, but I think it is very very unlikely that God exists” = agnostic, not athiest.

Atheists are not non-believers, they have an affirmative belief that supernatural forces do not exist. I find atheism to be far more illogical than actual belief, because at least with religious faith you get some benefits (and hence, Pascal’s wager) with athieism you get nothing.

kaltes on March 18, 2013 at 7:01 PM

You are accusing her of fabricating her degrees, and she managed to fool both a hiring committee and the tenure process? OK……

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 6:30 PM

hahah…sweetie I know you young and inexperienced, but my wife is a PHD and professor only after serving real life time in the private sector.

You will never find a bigger collection of dysfunctional, faux-intellectual children than those in academia. Their undeserved arrogance makes them prime targets for fraud and are easily duped which explains whey they follow liberalism, the ideology of the child.

I know you and what kind of person you are.

ClassicCon on March 18, 2013 at 7:03 PM

22044 on March 18, 2013 at 7:00 PM
-

I don’t think Hotair should allow people to post in support of sex between adults and minors. People get banned for much less.

CW on March 18, 2013 at 7:03 PM

Burnett says the devil has stirred the pot and created a false likeness between Obama and the TV devil.

I think Burnett is on to something here.

Call Dan Rather!

Stepan on March 18, 2013 at 7:05 PM

After big soda ban, NYC’s Mayor Bloomberg wants to hide cigarettes

the ideology of the child.

ClassicCon on March 18, 2013 at 7:03 PM

Liberalism 2012. Everyone’s too dumb to think for themselves.

I wonder Libfree should a 16 year old be able to choose to drink a 32 ounce soda? Or (OMG) see a pack of cigarettes?/

CW on March 18, 2013 at 7:08 PM

I don’t think Hotair should allow people to post in support of sex between adults and minors. People get banned for much less.

CW on March 18, 2013 at 7:03 PM

I wouldn’t disagree.
They have a much softer hand with the “progressives”, for some reason.

22044 on March 18, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Heh… so it wasn’t my imagination.

I had that show on, and was half-watching it… then I saw ‘him’, and part of my brain went, WTH???

Now I am vastly amused.

(Actually, I’m totally amused…)

This makes my week… on a Monday no less.

CPT. Charles on March 18, 2013 at 6:42 PM

Last night I was lying on the couch watching The Bible with my husband. I said to him, “is it the sinus medication I’m on or does Satan look a lot like Obama.” I sat up to take a better look and said, “Nope it’s not the medication Satan looks like Obama.”

Glad to know I’m not alone.

redridinghood on March 18, 2013 at 7:09 PM

Liberalism 2012. Everyone’s too dumb to think for themselves.

I wonder Libfree should a 16 year old be able to choose to drink a 32 ounce soda? Or (OMG) see a pack of cigarettes?/

CW on March 18, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Undoubtedly, liveenslavedthendie thinks that it is Puritanical censorship to have MenLoveBoys hidden behind both a brown wrapper and the counter, but a 32 ounce soda and a packet of f@gs should be held in the back of the store and sold out the back door to those only possessing a photo ID, which, would either mean many African-Americans would be unable to purchase big sodas and cigs or they do, in fact, have the photo identification that he swears would be an undue burden to ask for at polling places.

Resist We Much on March 18, 2013 at 7:13 PM

If I had a son, it would look like Barack. – Satan, a.k.a. Lucifer, a.k.a. Teh Debil.

P.S. Teddy and Hugo say “Hey.”

justltl on March 18, 2013 at 7:13 PM

and she managed to fool both a hiring committee and the tenure process? OK……

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 6:30 PM

Unintentional self parody.

rrpjr on March 18, 2013 at 7:14 PM

Really? You’re going to accuse a woman who has devoted her life to studying and teaching the Bible, and is an ordained Christian minister, as having a corrupted faith? The arrogance is astounding.

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 6:01 PM

(1) The Bible itself describes the “teachers of the law” and the Pharisees as having a corrupted faith. They too had devoted themselves to mastering their texts and religion and were, according to the bible, wrong about all important matters.

(2) There are lots of people in the world today who have devoted their lives to studying and teaching the bible, yet between them there are major disagreements on major issues. At least one of the disagreeing parties must therefore have got it wrong.

Both of these points imply a conclusion which ought to be obvious, and which can be held quite rationally, without any support from arrogance required:

Being devoted and studious is not the same as being correct.

YiZhangZhe on March 18, 2013 at 7:14 PM

I believe a pig use to have the run of her place but two HotAirians absconded with it.

Cindy Munford on March 18, 2013 at 6:23 PM
You are quite the troublemaker, Miss Cindy.

I won’t ask who the two HotAirians are but the subtext sounds interesting. ;)

kim roy on March 18, 2013 at 6:45 PM

The pig is safely in the freezer. The missing gator is another story.

katy the mean old lady on March 18, 2013 at 7:15 PM

EHRMEHGERD! Don’t look now! Everyone is racist!!!

EHRMEHGERD!

Can we get over this already? Geeze oh Petes. Get. Ovah. It.

Key West Reader on March 18, 2013 at 7:15 PM

Liberalism is about lying prostrate for the man. That does appeal to some people.

Flange on March 18, 2013 at 7:17 PM

Really? You’re going to accuse a woman who has devoted her life to studying and teaching the Bible, and is an ordained Christian minister, as having a corrupted faith? The arrogance is astounding.

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 6:01 PM

I agree that it would be wrong to judge the woman’s faith. However, after reading the links you provided I think it’s more than fair to make the argument that her political ideology has slanted her review of this series. (Full disclosure: I saw the first two episodes, not the third.)

First, Dr. Gafney makes mention of “Bathsheba’s abduction and rape recast as consensual adultery.” Here is the text of the verses in question (2 Sam 11:2-4):

One evening David got up from his bed and walked around on the roof of the palace. From the roof he saw a woman bathing. The woman was very beautiful, and David sent someone to find out about her. The man said, “She is Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam and the wife of Uriah the Hittite.” Then David sent messengers to get her. She came to him, and he slept with her. (Now she was purifying herself from her monthly uncleanness.) Then she went back home.

According to the text itself, Bathsheba was brought to David, they had sex, and she went home. Anything more than that–both the series’ portrayal of the encounter as adultery AND Dr. Gafney’s assertion that it was abduction and rape–is the interpretation of the reader. Dr. Gafney’s attempt to spin it as a rape that was whitewashed by the writers of the series is not supported by the text, despite her implication.

Second, Dr. Gafney has a long list of events that were either “whitewashed” or left out of the miniseries. She fails to mention, however, that the fall of Sodom was by her definition “whitewashed,” and key elements of that scene were left out. Specifically, she mentions that the series left out the part where Lot offered up his daughters to placate the mob, but fails to mention that the series left out THIS verse (Gen 19:5, NIV):

Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the house. They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.”

In the miniseries, the rioters do yell “we want your visitors,” but no reference to the men of the crowd wanting to sexually assault the male visitors in Lot’s home is included. If Dr. Gafney is concerned about Biblical facts that have been “whitewashed” and left out, why does she not include this event in her list? I don’t think it’s a stretch that she did not include this event because she agreed with the decision of the miniseries’ writers to remove any references to homosexual rape in that scene. There, again, her own personal biases are coming through her writing.

Shadow on March 18, 2013 at 7:23 PM

Shouldn’t Satan be nondescript, or even attractive? All the better to insinuate himself into people’s affairs and tempt them, right?

He was actually an angel of light. Before the fall. So, he possibly could be very handsome.

JellyToast on March 18, 2013 at 7:29 PM

BREAKING: New JFK movie: the story hinges on Jackie’s jealousy over her husband John’s close and supportive relationship with LBJ, rare in the executive halls. So strong was their affection that Jackie fueled disharmony between them at every chance she got. And contrary to the press at the time the separation of the two men, virtually dividing the White House into two separate domains, was not, as reported, a functional sharing of executive responsibility but actually the result of Jackie’s final ultimatum to JFK that LBJ not be allowed in the corridors of the West Wing.

This is the new engaging story of JFK. Yes, there was an actual JFK, and an actual LBJ, and a real-life Jackie. And yes, they all worked or lived in the White House. But that’s where truth ends and the story starts.

So goes the so-called “story of the Bible” under Roma Downey, Jr.’s take on the thirty-five hundred year saga of God’s interacting with and salvation of a fallen human race by the sacrifice of His Son in our stead.

Lot leaves Abraham to go toward Sodom not because the field hands of the two were so closely-pressed that they were getting into fights, but because he’s nagged by his wife to move to the city for the social life. It’s a small thing, but it’s the actual truth, as opposed to the fiction, that The Bible tells.

Samson is enraged against the Philistines not out of devotion to God, but because they burned his wife in a house fire due to ethnic or racial prejudices; and apparently doesn’t know he’s a Nazarite. He doesn’t kill thousands of Philistines in a major battle with the jaw bone of an ass, but five guys in a back street brawl. These are not such small details as to be innocuous.

Moses doesn’t lead the Jews through the desert for forty years until almost all of the original Jews who were too afraid to enter the promised land forty years before were dead, but rather it just takes forty years to get there.

David doesn’t try on standard armor and find it too heavy and unwieldy, but is handed a wicker shield with he tosses away. David’s stone doesn’t sink into Goliath’s forehead, but stuns him with a glancing blow. This is some of the coolest detail in the story that is omitted.

Instead of the magnificent, and poignant, explanation of Jesus’ conception from Gabriel, he says simply: the Holy Spirit will be in you.

Rather than correcting the record, so to speak, that the wise men actually visited Jesus when he was a toddler and that Herod killed all boys aged two and under, it shows them appearing in the manger, and telling it as Herod having killed only infants.

Instead of Salome’s wonderful dancing and Herod (whom John called to repentance for marrying his brother’s wife) promising her a reward and in turn her asking on behalf of her mother – that is Herod’s new wife – for John the Baptist’s head on a platter (literally, and thus the origin of the expression), John is killed after a debate with an angry guard in his cell.

Jesus begins his ministry and age 25? And when Pater asks: What do you want of me? He answers – what was it? To feed his sheep? To believe on Him whom He has sent? To die for his testimony of Jesus’ sacrificial death? No. To change the world!

These may appear to be very petty complaints, but the Bible is — first of all — the Word of God. And Roma Downey, Jr. presents her “documentary” as the story of the Bible, though it clearly is not. It is better called: the Bible, inspired by a true story.

I am left wondering what Roma Downey, Jr. could possibly be thinking to tell the “story of the Bible”, in clichéd vignettes, reinforcing the erroneous clichés, and ascribing motivations opposed to the actual motivations of the characters whose names she appropriates.

Instead of including the tremendous apologetic prophecies in the Bible and how they were fulfilled, the producers seem to be gutting and stuffing a dead story, one of clichéd convention rather than telling once and for all, for all to see, what the Bible really says.

I expect that in a few years, in superficial conversations with twenty- or thirty-somethings I will realize that all the stories of the Bible, which Jesus says actually point to Him, are so at odds with the conceptions in these young ones’ minds that there will be no common ground for conversation.

Roma Downey Jr. did no one a service with this so-called documentary – not even the God both she and President Obama say they worship.

flicker on March 18, 2013 at 7:30 PM

redridinghood on March 18, 2013 at 7:09 PM

I can’t remember which thread it was on or which HotAirian it was but someone called it yesterday.

Cleombrotus on March 18, 2013 at 7:32 PM

katy the mean old lady on March 18, 2013 at 7:15 PM

Dang it, it was a gator!! Just because it isn’t part of my name, old ladiness is kicking my hindquarters. Has anyone seen my glasses?

Cindy Munford on March 18, 2013 at 7:38 PM

flicker on March 18, 2013 at 7:30 PM

For you really expect the real deal from this crowd? Heck, they couldn’t get it right in the ’50′s when we were still philosophically a Biblically oriented society.

I expect that in a few years, in superficial conversations with twenty- or thirty-somethings I will realize that all the stories of the Bible, which Jesus says actually point to Him, are so at odds with the conceptions in these young ones’ minds that there will be no common ground for conversation.

Have you tried it lately? They’re already at that point.

Cleombrotus on March 18, 2013 at 7:40 PM

What evidence do you have that she can? We can’t even find a formal bio of her.

Del Dolemonte on March 18, 2013 at 6:23 PM

You are accusing her of fabricating her degrees, and she managed to fool both a hiring committee and the tenure process? OK……

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 6:30 PM

I never accused her of “fabricating her degrees”, you simply assumed that I did. Now that is brilliance!

F-

What degrees does she have, and where did she get them? As I said, we can’t even find her bio. What is she afraid to show us?

As for managing to fool people, please Google “Adam Wheeler Harvard” and have some fun.

And as I recall, your heroes Ward Churchill and Lizzy Warren also managed to fool their hiring committees and tenure processes. So it can be done.

Del Dolemonte on March 18, 2013 at 7:41 PM

But because you apparently can not use google,

libfreeordie on March 18, 2013 at 6:34 PM

To the contrary, I can use Google. But when I did my Google search, your link to her faculty bio never appeared. Weak Alinsky 101 Attempt duly noted.

Very curious that she first attended and graduated from Earlham. That’s a Quaker college.

Del Dolemonte on March 18, 2013 at 7:44 PM

So I guess we can add this to the list of weird things that happened while filming The Bible.

Hmmmmmmm

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/03/06/mark-burnett-bible-set/

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2160092/pg1

redridinghood on March 18, 2013 at 7:47 PM

I watched the bible last night and i didn’t think he looked like anyone..just satan..just a coincidence really…great show also..love it

sadsushi on March 18, 2013 at 7:47 PM

It’s been posted before, but it’s worth saying again:

#ObamaIsNotSatan is #1 Trending on Twitter now, and it’s a hoot. (Bonus: Libs heads are exploding)

Go there: https://twitter.com/search?q=%23ObamaIsNotSatan&src=tren

Join the fun.

petefrt on March 18, 2013 at 7:49 PM

Have you tried it lately? They’re already at that point.

Cleombrotus on March 18, 2013 at 7:40 PM

But ignorance is better than being actively deceived.

It’s billed as a documentary. I had hoped that someone with Roma Downey, Jr’s creds who promoted this as an evangelical tool (I reserve that term) would have something more in mind than the money, or the whitewashing of a story into an ineffectual mass of pseudo-christian blather compatible with the all-paths-lead-to-god deception.

I don’t know what effect this will ultimately have but I know there were many deliberate discrepancies built into it.

flicker on March 18, 2013 at 7:51 PM

Comment pages: 1 2 3 4 5