New crusade for loathsome nanny-state mayor: Let’s make store owners hide cigarettes behind the counter

posted at 3:21 pm on March 18, 2013 by Allahpundit

The most irritating peculiarity of Bloomberg’s petty nannyism is how it gets you thinking like a regulator even if you oppose what he’s doing. The hallmark of Bloombergism isn’t meddling with people’s personal habits, it’s meddling with those habits in a half-assed way such that you’re left wondering, perversely, why he didn’t crack down even harder. Where’s the logic in limiting sodas to 16 ounces if you can buy as many 16-ounce sodas as you want? Why not limit customers by law to one per sale and force them to go to multiple stores if they want to drink more? Why not ban soda from the city entirely? Why not do the same with cigarettes? (Actually, via John Ekdahl on Twitter, there may be a good reason for not doing that.) I guess he’s trying to walk a line politically by finding regulations that will change public behavior a little bit while not affecting it so much that there’ll be a giant outcry. But what does he care about outcries? He’s in his final term. He’s thinking about his legacy, which is why he’s crowing about the fact that this cigarette law is the first of its kind in the U.S. He could regulate with an even heavier hand and let the chips fall where they may, but instead he seems content to just … annoy and inconvenience people. You’re one of a kind, Bloomy.

No, actually, I do think there’s a strategy here.

The mayor announced today his proposed “Tobacco Product Display Restriction” bill, which would require all stores to keep cigarettes hidden from plain view.

The smokes could only been seen at purchase and during re-stocking, under Bloomberg’s plan that he’ll submit to the City Council on Wednesday.

“New York City has dramatically lowered our smoking rate, but even one new smoker is one too many – especially when it’s a young person,” Bloomberg said in a prepared statement.

“Young people are targets of marketing and the availability of cigarettes and this legislation will help prevent another generation from the ill health and shorter life expectancy that comes with smoking.”

Maybe putting cigarettes out of sight will put them out of kids’ minds, or maybe the added taboo of stashing them under the counter like contraband will pique kids’ curiosity once they see some of their peers start smoking. Also, I thought the point of putting photos of corpses and tracheotomies and diseased lungs on cigarette packs was because you want people to see them. Seems to me that’s a more effective deterrent for someone who’s trying to decide whether to buy his first pack than for someone who’s already asked the cashier to fetch him a pack and handed over his cash. But never mind all that: The point here, I take it, is to pave the way for similar food regulations later by making people get comfortable with the cigarette regulations first. Nearly everyone is more comfortable with anti-tobacco laws than anti-sugar laws because ciggies are addictive, they affect others in a confined space, and the specter of cancer is more frightening than health complications from obesity. So put cigarette packs behind the counter now and then, in a few years, maybe the public won’t grumble too much when you put soda behind the counter too. In fact, I think that law might have gone down more smoothly for Bloomberg than the dopey 16-ounce ban. Making an adult ask for a specific type of product by name is less insulting to his dignity than telling him he’s a bad boy for wanting a big soda like the grown-ups drink. See, though? He’s got me thinking like a regulator again.

In fairness to Bloomy, though, it feels churlish to complain about him on a day when the “conservative” prime minister of Britain is cooking up a scheme to limit press freedom in the UK. Some countries are way, way beyond nannyism. Hug your Bill of Rights tonight tightly, my friends. In lieu of an exit question, watch Bill Maher(!) bring the hammer down on Bloomberg’s soda ban while Jared Bernstein makes the case for regulating everything, basically, in the name of making people absorb the cost of their own risks. Click the image to watch.

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Bloomberg “hearts” Demolition Man.

Oil Can on March 18, 2013 at 3:23 PM

There’s no crime to stop or potholes to fix?

He has absolutely NOTHING else to do?

kim roy on March 18, 2013 at 3:23 PM

Guess they can put the smokes out of sight as the little napaleon did with baby formula?

GADS this worm needs to to take his billions and get the heck out of the US NOW!
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letget on March 18, 2013 at 3:25 PM

Calling this pissant, and those like him, a nanny, only softens what he, and they, really want to be:

Dictators.

Just like Obama, and his ilk in Congress.

Most Americans want and need to be told, directed, controlled, ordered and dictated to.

America is ripe for a dictatorship.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 18, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Hide the cigarettes, but make the tots eat condoms.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 18, 2013 at 3:27 PM

Cons should send this man ideas for bans and letters of support. Suck it New Yorkers!

tom daschle concerned on March 18, 2013 at 3:28 PM

He’s cuckoo.

Bloomberg is clearly suffering some mental problems. My guess is it’s Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder.

He’s not functioning on the job so much as he’s functioning on EVERYone’s “annoying habits” that are driving him nuts: has to arrange everyone, everything.

Next we’ll hear Bloomberg has banned sidewalk cracks because they’re, uhh, well, they’re threatening.

Lourdes on March 18, 2013 at 3:29 PM

New crusade for loathsome nanny-state mayor store owners: Let’s make store owners loathsome nanny-state mayor hide cigarettes behind the counter.

Flange on March 18, 2013 at 3:30 PM

Wow. Shocking. I mean, this is crazy. Hiding cigarettes from view. You mean, like in those fascist, oppressive countries like, oh, say . . . Canada? And those other horrible places to live such as . . . Ireland, Iceland, Norway, Thailand, Finland, Australia and New Zealand. I guess Bloomberg must call the shots in all those places as well.

About time you get your guns out and save the Republic! Because if the founding fathers intended anything, it was to be free to openly view cigarette packages at convenience stores.

keep the change on March 18, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Has anyone EVER seen Bloomberg handle change himself? Dimes, nickels, pennies, quarters, has anyone ever seen him touch those things? What about paper bills such as dollars, twenties, those things?

I would BET that Bloomberg never, ever touches those things. And has someone else open and close doors for him.

Lourdes on March 18, 2013 at 3:31 PM

In fairness to Bloomy, though, it feels churlish to complain about him on a day when the “conservative” prime minister of Britain is cooking up a scheme to limit press freedom in the UK.

Don’t confuse “conservativism” anywhere else in the world with American conservativism. There is no comparison. The rest of the world has governmental architectures that don’t even allow anything along the lines of American conservativism, which is adherence to our Constitutional structure, which has effects all of its own that cannot be realized in any country with a party-oriented, collectivist, unseparated branch, ephemeral Executive government – which is basically all of the countries outside of America.

Most of the “conservatives” anywhere else in the world would be democrats, here. Their governments are naturally collectivist (political parties being the fundamental elements of their governments, while political parties do not even exist in our Constitution) and the people are pretty much in line with that.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 18, 2013 at 3:32 PM

And once it’s normalized, Bloomberg will require all of the tots to read the Pamphlets that will be printed, regarding the glories of homosexuality.

In fact, he’ll create a Ministry of True Love, to print those Pamphlets, and all of the tots will be required to hand in their 1,000 word Pamphlet Reports, proclaiming their joy for the new love.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 18, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Seriously, has anyone bought a pack of smokes in the City of New York??? Try paying around $13 frikken bucks and then try lighting one up!!! Fines fines, every where there’s fines—clogging up the scenery, breaking my mind—do this, don’t do that…………

Rovin on March 18, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Is it just the cigarettes that get hidden, or do advertising posters have to also be taken down?

I didn’t start smoking because I saw an ad or cigarettes in plain view. Like with so many others, I started because my dad and uncles smoked, and so did some of my friends.

Bloomberg is relentless in his crusade to simply annoy people, rather than actually doing something to alleviate a problem.

Liam on March 18, 2013 at 3:34 PM

No, actually, I do think there’s a strategy here.

The strategy is to accustom people to overt regulation of everyday life. What products you will use, when, how and how obtained. What time you may work and what work you choose to engage in. What lands may be used for human occupation. How you will spend your money and how much of it the government allows you to keep. What you may say. And how long you will be allowed to live at the sufferance of the state.

Fenris on March 18, 2013 at 3:35 PM

Oh he has a legacy all right.

LetsBfrank on March 18, 2013 at 3:35 PM

The mayor announced today his proposed “Tobacco Product Display Restriction” bill, which would require all stores to keep cigarettes hidden from plain view.

What? Bloomberg can’t see them now without a step stool. (Yes, that’s a short joke.)

Fallon on March 18, 2013 at 3:35 PM

In lieu of an exit question, watch Bill Maher

Uh, no thank you.

LoganSix on March 18, 2013 at 3:35 PM

Wow. Shocking. I mean, this is crazy. Hiding cigarettes from view. You mean, like in those fascist, oppressive countries like, oh, say . . . Canada? And those other horrible places to live such as . . . Ireland, Iceland, Norway, Thailand, Finland, Australia and New Zealand.

Did I say it was fascist and oppressive? I said it was annoying. If you want Mike Bloomberg or the government of Canada “helping” you decide what to consume because you’re smart enough to know you’re an idiot and need their help, that’s great. We’ll settle it at the ballot box.

Allahpundit on March 18, 2013 at 3:35 PM

The strategy is to accustom people to overt regulation of everyday life. What products you will use, when, how and how obtained. What time you may work and what work you choose to engage in. What lands may be used for human occupation. How you will spend your money and how much of it the government allows you to keep. What you may say. And how long you will be allowed to live at the sufferance of the state.

Fenris on March 18, 2013 at 3:35 PM

Yep. Well put.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 18, 2013 at 3:36 PM

Wow. Shocking. I mean, this is crazy. Hiding cigarettes from view. You mean, like in those fascist, oppressive countries like, oh, say . . . Canada? And those other horrible places to live such as . . . Ireland, Iceland, Norway, Thailand, Finland, Australia and New Zealand. I guess Bloomberg must call the shots in all those places as well.

About time you get your guns out and save the Republic! Because if the founding fathers intended anything, it was to be free to openly view cigarette packages at convenience stores.

keep the change on March 18, 2013 at 3:31 PM

The founders didn’t intend for some asshole mayor dictating to business the size of sugared drinks and how they could display certain merchandise said mayor doesn’t like.

bgibbs1000 on March 18, 2013 at 3:36 PM

I think he is just testing how deep the citizens are willing to take it up the rear until they scream NO MORE and brandish a pitchfork.

Archivarix on March 18, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Where’s the logic in limiting sodas to 16 ounces if you can buy as many 16-ounce sodas as you want?

It’s a gateway regulation. Yes, later he’ll say, even 16 ounces are bad, and yes, some people are buying many sodas or surreptitiously getting free refills! So ban all sodas, including in 6-packs at markets. And it’s a gateway to banning all kinds of stuff, fatty foods he and his ilk deem as bad. Other sugary foods. Plastic products. Whatelse not. You name it, if they don’t like it, it’s gone.

anotherJoe on March 18, 2013 at 3:38 PM

Don’t confuse “conservativism” anywhere else in the world with American conservativism. …

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 18, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Or to put it another way: Conservatives in Europe are the descendants of Feudal Overlords. Conservatives in America are Classical Liberals.

Fenris on March 18, 2013 at 3:38 PM

Why does this goofy moron spend all this wasted energy on stupid things and not expend it instead on the things he is supposed to be doing as mayor, like filling potholes, towing abandoned cars off the street, that kind of thing?

What he is doing with this nanny-nation mentality of his is now bordering on madness!

pilamaye on March 18, 2013 at 3:38 PM

watch Bill Maher

I’d rather hammer my scrotum wafer thin with a steak tenderizer and then staple it to the workbench.

CurtZHP on March 18, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Those who are selling cigarettes out of the trunks of their cars at a discounted (non-taxed) rate in NY have been doing this for years. Maybe all cigarettes in NY should be sold out of the trunks of cars.

weaselyone on March 18, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Below, you will find the Utopia that the Left will have for us.

Read, and weep for what America used to be:

To be governed is to be watched, inspected, spied upon, directed, law-driven, numbered, regulated, enrolled, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, checked, estimated, valued, censured, commanded, by creatures who have neither the right nor the wisdom nor the virtue to do so. To be governed is to be at every operation, at every transaction noted, registered, counted, taxed, stamped, measured, numbered, assessed, licensed, authorized, admonished, prevented, forbidden, reformed, corrected, punished. It is, under pretext of public utility, and in the name of the general interest, to be placed under contribution, drilled, fleeced, exploited, monopolized, extorted from, squeezed, hoaxed, robbed; then at the slightest resistance, the first word of complaint, to be repressed, fined, vilified, harassed, hunted down, abused, clubbed, disarmed, bound, choked, imprisoned, judged, condemned, shot, deported, sacrificed, sold, betrayed, and to crown all, mocked, ridiculed, derided, outraged, dishonored. That is government; that is its justice; that is its morality.

– Pierre-Joseph Proudhon

OhEssYouCowboys on March 18, 2013 at 3:40 PM

Allahpundit on March 18, 2013 at 3:35 PM

I didn’t say You said it was fascist and oppressive. Don’t get your panties in a bunch. But it is the general feeling on hotair that this is just the slippery slope to that, isn’t? The salient point is that how “loathsome” can Bloomberg be if the very same restrictions are imposed in all those other free countries?

keep the change on March 18, 2013 at 3:41 PM

The salient point is that how “loathsome” can Bloomberg be if the very same restrictions are imposed in all those other free countries?

keep the change on March 18, 2013 at 3:41 PM

The salient point is the oxymoron in your very own premise.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 18, 2013 at 3:46 PM

He’s in his final term.

Like that matters.

NYC will elect the nuttiest libtard they can scrape from the bottle of the barrel to replace him.

HotAirian on March 18, 2013 at 3:46 PM

keep the change on March 18, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Next you’ll be supporting a bill to cane people for graffiti since that’s what they do in Singapore and Singapore is such a clean wonderful place so it can’t be a bad idea.

You have made the mistake of confusing the outcome with the process.

Do I enjoy going to comedy clubs in NY without waking up sick the next morning from all the smoke? Of course!

Did I still vote against the indoor smoking ban because I believed it was an encroachment on the rights of the property owner to make decisions for his own establishment? Yes!

JadeNYU on March 18, 2013 at 3:47 PM

This from the same group that makes it illegal and wrong to charge people with higher healthcare costs more…

So if charging people more for “sins” will get them to stop, then won’t charging them more for healthcare get them to be healthier as well? Oh, nm, that’s a solution through free markets…only through regulations and government being my nanny can problems be solved…

nextgen_repub on March 18, 2013 at 3:49 PM

You said it was fascist and oppressive.

Neither word typed by AP. Are you ok?

tom daschle concerned on March 18, 2013 at 3:50 PM

The salient point is the oxymoron in your very own premise.

sure, because you can’t truly be free if government imposes restrictions anywhere. Give me a clear line of sight to the cigarette racks, or give me death!

I bet if Bloomberg forced convenience stores to hid the girly magazines, none of you social conservatives would call him loathsome then. If all those other countries in the western world have the same restrictions, then, by this standard, that would mean that all the people who govern those countries are all equally loathsome.

And if that is what you believe, this then gets to some pretty radical, extremist, and even xenophobic way of thinking.

keep the change on March 18, 2013 at 3:52 PM

Wow. Shocking. I mean, this is crazy. Hiding cigarettes from view. You mean, like in those fascist, oppressive countries like, oh, say . . . Canada? And those other horrible places to live such as . . . Ireland, Iceland, Norway, Thailand, Finland, Australia and New Zealand.

I live in America so I can see the products I might want to buy. Not have them hidden from me from the nanny staters.

Go soak your head, Keep the Change.

portlandon on March 18, 2013 at 3:52 PM

Next you’ll be supporting a bill to cane people for graffiti since that’s what they do in Singapore and Singapore is such a clean wonderful place so it can’t be a bad idea.

Actually, I would support caning graffiti artists.

keep the change on March 18, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Smoking is healthier than fascism.

Axion on March 18, 2013 at 3:54 PM

keep the change on March 18, 2013 at 3:52 PM

I can’t say it any better than Allahpundit said it:

If you want Mike Bloomberg or the government of Canada “helping” you decide what to consume because you’re smart enough to know you’re an idiot and need their help, that’s great.

It’s imbeciles like you who mock the possibility of dictatorship happening in this country and, because of that, it’ll be imbeciles like you who will ensure that it happens.

I’d tell you that I hope you get the dictatorship that you deserve – except – I’ll have to live in it, too.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 18, 2013 at 3:57 PM

Hey, it’s a new week; time for a new oppressive/intrusive nanny-state directive from Napoleon-on-the-Hudson.

Midas on March 18, 2013 at 3:57 PM

I live in America so I can see the products I might want to buy. Not have them hidden from me from the nanny staters.

And the girlie magazines? What about pot? Why should anyone tell you you can’t smoke a joint?

A charge of nanny statism only comes into play if the government bans you from having those things. Simply by not displaying them, how does that stop you from getting your hands on them?

If we are going to use the term nanny state, let’s use it correctly.

keep the change on March 18, 2013 at 3:58 PM

Actually, I would support caning graffiti artists.

keep the change on March 18, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Seriously? It has been my anecdotal impression that liberals are more prone to vindictiveness than conservatives, but really? Prison is supposed to remove a threat from society and if possible reform the criminal. In extreme cases you humanely execute them to remove the threat permanently.

I know, many times, we don’t do a very good job of providing a good environment for rehabilitation. But that’s no reason to explicitly head the other direction. Maybe you’re for bringing back public stocks so the general public can get their licks in too? And public hangings so we can get a little thrill from the spectacle?

Fenris on March 18, 2013 at 3:58 PM

Let’s make store owners hide cigarettes behind the counter

I have a better idea. Lets allow only licences tobacconist stores to sell cigarettes, then hide the stores in unmarked, non-windowed, nondescript buildings. If one can’t find the stores, one can’t buy the cigarettes and indulge in such an unhealthful habit. And if smokers can find them, they have at least worked hard to sustain their addiction.

hawkeye54 on March 18, 2013 at 3:59 PM

hawkeye54 on March 18, 2013 at 3:59 PM

And, yes, this was sarcasm, if you really need to know.

hawkeye54 on March 18, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Most of the “conservatives” anywhere else in the world would be democrats, here.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 18, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Replace “conservative” with “Republican” and it’s already true.

CurtZHP on March 18, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Dayum.

GWB on March 18, 2013 at 4:01 PM

t’s imbeciles like you who mock the possibility of dictatorship happening in this country and, because of that, it’ll be imbeciles like you who will ensure that it happens.

and it’s paranoid idiots like you who can’t open your eyes and see that none of those countries in the western world that have these same restrictions are dictatorships.

See black helicopters much? (What out, they’re coming to get you.)

keep the change on March 18, 2013 at 4:02 PM

watch Bill Maher

I’d rather hammer my scrotum wafer thin with a steak tenderizer and then staple it to the workbench.

CurtZHP on March 18, 2013 at 3:39 PM

lol

Midas on March 18, 2013 at 4:02 PM

Actually, I would support caning graffiti artists.

keep the change on March 18, 2013 at 3:54 PM

So……Beatings for Graffiti

and……Hide the Cigarettes

You’re a mad man.

portlandon on March 18, 2013 at 4:03 PM

keep the change on March 18, 2013 at 3:41 PM

American exceptionalism includes from the Declaration of Independence:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.

The Bill of Rights protects the natural rights of liberty and property.

This is America.

Americans sought independence not only from Great Britain, after all, but also from military occupation, royal overseers, arbitrary laws, taxation without representation, and—as it says in the Declaration of Independence—everything that “evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism.”

Sometimes, you have to talk to people as if they were a sixth grader.

Fallon on March 18, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Prison is supposed to remove a threat from society and if possible reform the criminal. In extreme cases you humanely execute them to remove the threat permanently.

Fenris on March 18, 2013 at 3:58 PM

Sorry, but I disagree. Prison and execution should be for the purpose of justice, not “removing the threat”. Please, don’t let that distract from the thread, however.

GWB on March 18, 2013 at 4:04 PM

You lot in New York City are a a cud chewing sheeple that deserve to lose all of the freedoms and liberties you’ve lost.

The only question remains whether your infestation of liberalism and contagion can be contained before it hits the parts of the country that actually produce something unimportant like food or energy.

acyl72 on March 18, 2013 at 4:05 PM

80% of NYC high school graduates can’t read or write. 80%.

In a few years no one in the city is going to be able to read cigarette labels anyway so why bother?

2lbsTest on March 18, 2013 at 4:07 PM

When pot becomes legal will it be stored out of sight?

docflash on March 18, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Actually, I would support caning graffiti artists.

keep the change on March 18, 2013 at 3:54 PM

I like Banksy and would hate to see him tied down and lashed with a cane because you were cool with it.

Fallon on March 18, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Hide the alcohol at liquor stores and bars. The people won’t be tempted to drink.

Costumer at convenience store:

“Um, can I see your secret stash of potato chips behind the counter?.”

New Yorkers make Californians look like rocket scientists.

MichaelGabriel on March 18, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Wow. Shocking. I mean, this is crazy. Hiding cigarettes from view. You mean, like in those fascist, oppressive countries like, oh, say . . . Canada? And those other horrible places to live such as . . . Ireland, Iceland, Norway, Thailand, Finland, Australia and New Zealand. I guess Bloomberg must call the shots in all those places as well.

About time you get your guns out and save the Republic! Because if the founding fathers intended anything, it was to be free to openly view cigarette packages at convenience stores.

keep the change on March 18, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Funny you picked a bunch of government controlled socialist countries to make your point.

If you really want socialism so badly why don’t you move to a socialist country?

Why are you trying to change people to YOUR point of view? You most certainly aren’t happy if you are told to do something you don’t like, are you? So why do it to others?

kim roy on March 18, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Is there any reason Bloomberg hasn’t been committed to a mental institution?

Dasher on March 18, 2013 at 4:13 PM

Sorry, but I disagree. Prison and execution should be for the purpose of justice, not “removing the threat”. Please, don’t let that distract from the thread, however.

GWB on March 18, 2013 at 4:04 PM

It certainly needs to be just as far as humans are capable of being. But our disagreement is minor compared to just being vindictive.

Don’t think it’s really off topic, as the topic is criminalizing things which are not inherently immoral. Just because the state increasingly has an interest in every aspect of life. 50 years from now, what will be the punishment for engaging in ‘risky’ behavior? Public caning?

Fenris on March 18, 2013 at 4:13 PM

Funny you picked a bunch of government controlled socialist countries to make your point.

If you really want socialism so badly why don’t you move to a socialist country?

Why are you trying to change people to YOUR point of view? You most certainly aren’t happy if you are told to do something you don’t like, are you? So why do it to others?

kim roy on March 18, 2013 at 4:12 PM

What was especially amusing was his non sequitur swipe at scary boomstick owners. Talk about renting out space in your head and not making a dime on it!

CurtZHP on March 18, 2013 at 4:14 PM

80% of NYC high school graduates can’t read or write. 80%.

In a few years no one in the city is going to be able to read cigarette labels anyway so why bother?

2lbsTest on March 18, 2013 at 4:07 PM

That’s why the leftists are pushing the big, “scary” pictures on the packs.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 18, 2013 at 4:14 PM

none of those countries in the western world that have these same restrictions are dictatorships.

keep the change on March 18, 2013 at 4:02 PM

Maybe not yet, but most of the Anglosphere is on a slippery slope, and is already mired in nanny-statism. Ever hear of the Canadian Human Rights Councils? How about the law requiring Britons not to cover their garden shed windows with chicken wire to keep out burglars because the burglars will get cut on the chicken wire? Or the censorship of Dire Straits’ Money For Nothing in Canada because it contains the lyric “little faggot”? No, no nanny-statism there! Free as birds they are!

Girly magazines used to be behind the counter in many places. And they currently *are* hidden from view (they are required to be displayed in such a way that nudity – or near nudity – is not openly displayed, except in adult-only environments).

The funny part to this is how it will tie up checkout lines. So many times I have seen someone trying to explain which pack they want to buy, and they ultimately resort to, “up, over…. to your right… yeah, that one.” Without the ability to “talk them on” to the desired pack, clueless cashiers will take forever bringing out pack after pack to find out if they got the right one.

GWB on March 18, 2013 at 4:15 PM

A charge of nanny statism only comes into play if the government bans you from having those things. Simply by not displaying them, how does that stop you from getting your hands on them?

If we are going to use the term nanny state, let’s use it correctly.

keep the change on March 18, 2013 at 3:58 PM

Oh, yeah. I see what you mean.

Damn government won’t let me buy a bazooka or a 105mm howitzer, either.

Damned nanny-state.

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Solaratov on March 18, 2013 at 4:16 PM

Is there any reason Bloomberg hasn’t been committed to a mental institution?

Dasher on March 18, 2013 at 4:13 PM

He already lives in New York City. The question is why hasn’t NY been walled off, yet, to protect the sane.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 18, 2013 at 4:16 PM

I think it is entertaining trying to guess what he’ll ban next. What is the line?

tdarrington on March 18, 2013 at 4:21 PM

Loath-worthy.

Speakup on March 18, 2013 at 4:23 PM

I think it is entertaining trying to guess what he’ll ban next. What is the line?

tdarrington on March 18, 2013 at 4:21 PM

Gambling, natch! ;)

GWB on March 18, 2013 at 4:24 PM

$13 a pack in New York?

You could load up your car with cigarettes in California, take an all expenses paid road trip to New York, sell them on the street, and pocket $5000 in cash.

Capitalism.

MichaelGabriel on March 18, 2013 at 4:30 PM

Good for Cigarette sales in CT and New Jersey. NYC subjects keep suffering for their stupidity.

antisocial on March 18, 2013 at 4:37 PM

From NineteenEightyFour:

Freedom is Slavery

Ignorance is Strength.

I shall call you Free Hercules.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 18, 2013 at 4:38 PM

$13 a pack in New York?

You could load up your car with cigarettes in California, take an all expenses paid road trip to New York, sell them on the street, and pocket $5000 in cash.

Capitalism.

MichaelGabriel on March 18, 2013 at 4:30 PM

They have a solution for that. You criminal!

Revenue agents surveil Tennessee residents who buy cigarettes in neighboring states. Those found in possession of two cartons +1 pack will have their car confiscated.

tom daschle concerned on March 18, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Is there nothing else going on in NYC that the mayor could be focusing on? I bet his next quest is to get everyone in bed when the street lights come on.

tommer74 on March 18, 2013 at 4:45 PM

Dear New Yorkers, I’m afraid your little king has gone quite mad.
May I suggest some 1950 style Shock therapy for the little mayor that thinks he is Napoléon.

Wallythedog on March 18, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Maher’s point about making liberals look bad for wanting to force others to do what they want, is very ironic in that this is exactly what liberals were against when the religious right wanted to legislate behavior. This is what the Bill of Rights is all about and why the Founders formed a Republic.

lea on March 18, 2013 at 4:50 PM

We have this law here in BC, Canada. It actually has proven to be an effective deterrent, with smoking rates declining from appx. 12% before the law was enacted to about 9.5%, where it is now

starsfaninvan on March 18, 2013 at 4:57 PM

But lets pass out condoms in elementary school, you know, out of sight, out of mind. Wait. Whut?

ButterflyDragon on March 18, 2013 at 4:57 PM

He’s thinking about his legacy

Yeah, a pol and his “legacy” are wonderful things.

GarandFan on March 18, 2013 at 4:58 PM

They have a solution for that. You criminal!

Revenue agents surveil Tennessee residents who buy cigarettes in neighboring states. Those found in possession of two cartons +1 pack will have their car confiscated.
tom daschle concerned on March 18, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Heh. If a law abiding citizen like myself can figure that one out, just think of how many real criminals are actually doing it.

Four round trips a month, that’s enough to pay for a new car.

MichaelGabriel on March 18, 2013 at 5:06 PM

Wow. Shocking. I mean, this is crazy. Hiding cigarettes from view. You mean, like in those fascist, oppressive countries like, oh, say . . . Canada? And those other horrible places to live such as . . . Ireland, Iceland, Norway, Thailand, Finland, Australia and New Zealand. I guess Bloomberg must call the shots in all those places as well.

About time you get your guns out and save the Republic! Because if the founding fathers intended anything, it was to be free to openly view cigarette packages at convenience stores.

keep the change on March 18, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Are cigarettes legal or not? I understand that you liberals aren’t smart enough or willful enough to control your animal impulses, but that’s no reason to regulate the rest of us. (And no, I’m not a smoker.)

dominigan on March 18, 2013 at 5:07 PM

Yeah, and hey, lets all wear name tags around NYC too. “Hello Lou, hiya Stan..” (courtesy JS)

jake49 on March 18, 2013 at 5:10 PM

and it’s paranoid idiots like you who can’t open your eyes and see that none of those countries in the western world that have these same restrictions are dictatorships.

See black helicopters much? (What out, they’re coming to get you.)

keep the change on March 18, 2013 at 4:02 PM

And none of them are Constitutional Republics that believe people are smart enough to govern themselves responsibly. But then again, there’s that liberal rash that spreads irresponsibility…

dominigan on March 18, 2013 at 5:12 PM

We have this law here in BC, Canada. It actually has proven to be an effective deterrent, with smoking rates declining from appx. 12% before the law was enacted to about 9.5%, where it is now

starsfaninvan on March 18, 2013 at 4:57 PM

I’m not buying that statistic by itself. Between massive taxation, more emphasis on wellness, and other factors; smoking rates are in general decline. Are you honestly suggesting a 2.5% decrease in smokers was due entirely to hiding the smokes?

Happy Nomad on March 18, 2013 at 5:12 PM

“Keep the Change” – your list lacks free countries on it.

SPQR on March 18, 2013 at 5:15 PM

I’d rather hammer my scrotum wafer thin with a steak tenderizer and then staple it to the workbench.

CurtZHP on March 18, 2013 at 3:39 PM

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Have fun explaining that one to the wife.

FlaMurph on March 18, 2013 at 5:19 PM

Soon, the only things that can be advertised will be pot, rubbers, and nudy magazines.

On second thought….that might not be so bad.

BobMbx on March 18, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Very little man running big city.

Sherman1864 on March 18, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Dear New Yorkers, I’m afraid your little king has gone quite mad.

Wallythedog on March 18, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Wait until Bloomberg finds out they’ve been painting the roses red.

Fallon on March 18, 2013 at 5:39 PM

Let’s ban Cheezits in NYC…they’re the wee man’s fav.

d1carter on March 18, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Hey New Yorkers. We can see what your Mayor is doing. He’s engaged on social engineering on a massive scale. You’re the lab rats.

Happy Nomad on March 18, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Bloomberg would make an EXCELLENT dictator….and it just so happens there’s a job opening in Venezuela

LaRepublican on March 18, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Very little man running big city.

Sherman1864 on March 18, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Couldn’t it be argued that short people are a detriment to society? I mean, they can’t reach stuff on the top shelf. They get underfoot on the subway. They make lousy bodyguards. Their use on March 17th and around Christmas is limited.

Isn’t it time to ban short people like Bloomberg?

Happy Nomad on March 18, 2013 at 5:52 PM

A charge of nanny statism only comes into play if the government bans you from having those things.

Umm…no. Telling business owners they have to hide their product “for the children” is without a doubt nanny statism. And every one of those “free” countries you listed are big government nanny states.

If we are going to use the term nanny state, let’s use it correctly.

keep the change

Maybe you should take your own advice.

xblade on March 18, 2013 at 5:59 PM

The one thing this panel missed was that Bloomberg was using his department of public safety to push through his soda size restrictions. It is one thing for the FDA to categorize second hand smoke as a carcinogen, and then use a variety of means to limit exposure to this smoke. It is something else to be using New York City health inspectors who are supposed to be keeping restaurants safe from rats and salmonella and instead imposing the Mayor’s arbitrary will by “inspecting” drink cup sizes. This was one of the findings of the judge that overturned Bloomberg’s new regulations. If the FDA wants to declare sugar a health hazard, and put in place appropriate health restrictions on sugar sales, the they within their right to do so. Bloomberg’s backhanded use of his health inspectors was arbitrary and capricious.

STL_Vet on March 18, 2013 at 6:05 PM

And what, pray tell, does Bloomie propose for tobacco shops such as Nat Sherman?

Syzygy on March 18, 2013 at 6:16 PM

and it’s paranoid idiots like you who can’t open your eyes and see that none of those countries in the western world that have these same restrictions are dictatorships.

See black helicopters much? (What out, they’re coming to get you.)

keep the change on March 18, 2013 at 4:02 PM

Yeah they are dictatorships. Ask Mark Steyn about how free Canada is, numbnuts.

dogsoldier on March 18, 2013 at 6:21 PM

How do you hide anything when the typical store in Manhattan is smaller than a walk-in closet and only slightly bigger than a bread-basket???

phreshone on March 18, 2013 at 6:32 PM

Bloomy is a twerp. NYNY has bigger issues.

StevC on March 18, 2013 at 6:44 PM

New Yorkers: are you really this immature?

CW on March 18, 2013 at 7:10 PM

New Yorkers: are you really this immature?

CW on March 18, 2013 at 7:10 PM

Immature? I don’t think you know what that word means. New Yorkers are downright stupid. And in making that statement I include my own brother. Bloomberg could rape a child on local access television and my brother would vote for him so long as he supported my brother’s “issues” which are essentially a social welfare state where people are jailed for having sugar instead of pot, sodas are as small as the dwarf-mayor, and trans-fats trumps transportation issues. My brother and I are not close.

Happy Nomad on March 18, 2013 at 8:02 PM

From the linked article:

“Thousands of New Yorkers die each year of tobacco-related causes”

How many New Yorkers will die in the future? All of them. Who gives these little Napoleons the right to try to decide who dies and from what?

Jan. 14, 2008 — The death rate in New York City reached an all-time low in 2006, the Health Department reported today, as the number of deaths fell to 55,391 — down from 57,068 in 2005 and 60,218 in 2001. Mortality declined in eight leading categories, including diabetes, HIV, chronic lung disease and kidney failure. The only leading killer that increased significantly was substance use (up 8%). Heart disease and cancer remained the city’s biggest killers, claiming 21,844 lives and 13,116 lives, respectively. The figures come from the latest Annual Summary of Vital Statistics, the definitive registry of births and deaths in New York City.

50,852 New Yorkers died in 2010 of various causes. See chart here.

Fallon on March 18, 2013 at 8:08 PM

Liberals believe in abstinence when it comes to guns, fast food, cigarettes, etc. But if you preach abstinence in regards to sex, they’ll tell you that you’re living in a fantasy world.

ardenenoch on March 18, 2013 at 8:12 PM

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