Loathsome nanny-state Senator saves America from evil cruise ships

posted at 8:01 am on March 18, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

The cruise line industry has taken a few black eyes recently, particularly Carnival Cruises. Between their recent “poop cruise” media fiasco and the couple of subsequent, lesser malfunctions, the company has manged to become seemingly endless fodder for late night jokesters. Mechanical malfunctions and a bored cable media machine have turned it into one of the must cover topics of the winter. But fear not, America! Your tax dollars are hard at work making sure you’re covered. As Hot Air Green Room alumnus Howard Portnoy reports, New York Senator Chuck Schumer is on the job. (From the AP via the NY Post)

Sen. Charles Schumer is calling on the cruise ship industry to adopt a ‘bill of rights’ to guarantee passengers certain protections while aboard their ships.

The New York Democrat says Sunday he’ll be asking industry leaders to voluntarily adopt the guidelines which include guarantees that ships have sanitary conditions, back-up power, medical staff and other standard procedures.

Schumer’s plan would also include the right to a full refund if a trip is abruptly canceled due to mechanical problems. [Emphasis added]

As Howard points out, most of the demanded protections and assurances would have had no impact on the recent troubles the cruise line has run up against. The ships already have back-up generators and the sanitary conditions in such confined spaces are as good as they can be if you lose some of the essential infrastructure. And trust me… I was on an aircraft carrier for several years. Things break there too. The Brits have a very old saying for a reason: worse things happen at sea.

Plus, while there will always be a couple of people who bring a lawsuit any time they smell the opportunity of a big payday, many of the passengers told tales of a crew which bent over backward to make things as pleasant as they could and kept the mess in check as much as possible. Further, the cruise lines really don’t need Schumer’s help on this one. They live and die by customer service and tend to go above and beyond to make things right for the passengers. The recent batch in the story above were offered full refunds, cash incentives and free future tickets.

Even if they weren’t doing back flips in an effort to take care of the passengers, we still wouldn’t need the nanny state to intervene. The free market will take them out of the hunt fast enough if this is really some sort of endemic problem with a particular provider. But that’s probably not the case here.


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This is an orchestrated crisis designed to force unions on the cruise industry. It’s an example to other cruise lines much as auto unions used to strike one auto makers to put fear in the hearts of the others.

Thuggery and goons. The story of the left’s success for over a hundred years and counting.

erp on March 18, 2013 at 8:07 AM

Why is the first “top pick” post an article from two days ago? Shouldn’t newer posts have already pushed that one down?

Seems like things aren’t run the same when Ed isn’t around. I like seeing current stories on the HotAir main page at the top of the columns.

bluegill on March 18, 2013 at 8:07 AM

A Mar 17 post about the Pope didn’t get moved to “Top Picks” even though the first “Top Pick” is still a Mar 16 post?

bluegill on March 18, 2013 at 8:09 AM

The New York Democrat says Sunday he’ll be asking industry leaders to voluntarily adopt the guidelines which include guarantees that ships have sanitary conditions, back-up power, medical staff and other standard procedures.

Of course, none of these ships are American-flagged so this is pretty much a stunt to give little Chuckie some face time on camera. Good thing the Senate doesn’t have more important stuff to do these days now that the budget has been passed. /

Happy Nomad on March 18, 2013 at 8:09 AM

Charles Schumer is calling on the cruise ship industry to adopt a ‘bill of rights’ to guarantee passengers certain protections while aboard their ships.

Can we just get him to support our Bill of Rights?

JellyToast on March 18, 2013 at 8:21 AM

This is being seen as doing something to fix a problem. Everyone has seen the news reports of how awful it was on the ship. Govt is here to help, again. You’d think passengers that still want to go to sea for a long boring boat ride would pick a better line than Carnival.

Kissmygrits on March 18, 2013 at 8:25 AM

Of course, none of these ships are American-flagged so this is pretty much a stunt to give little Chuckie some face time on camera. Good thing the Senate doesn’t have more important stuff to do these days now that the budget has been passed. /

Happy Nomad on March 18, 2013 at 8:09 AM

Another political point for a conservative politicians to come back with. “Why aren’t cruise ships American flagged?” Just like how Romney attempted to make the point as to why people invest off shore.

LoganSix on March 18, 2013 at 8:30 AM

bluegill on March 18, 2013 at 8:07 AM

Maybe there should be a law, bluegill?

Cleombrotus on March 18, 2013 at 8:31 AM

more regulations……sinky cruise binness!!

Viva Nanny, she no fun but she sho keeps you safey!!

PappyD61 on March 18, 2013 at 8:32 AM

The most dangerous place in the world is to be between Upchuck Schumer and a TV camera.

Bitter Clinger on March 18, 2013 at 8:32 AM

This is being seen as doing something to fix a problem. Everyone has seen the news reports of how awful it was on the ship. Govt is here to help, again. You’d think passengers that still want to go to sea for a long boring boat ride would pick a better line than Carnival.

Kissmygrits on March 18, 2013 at 8:25 AM

It’s the whole cycle. Define the problem, rail against the problem, “fix” the problem. They did the same thing with the Newtown shootings because banning stuff (already on the agenda) is so much easier than dealing with the issues that might actually do something (like reform of the mental health system).

Happy Nomad on March 18, 2013 at 8:33 AM

Why is the first “top pick” post an article from two days ago? Shouldn’t newer posts have already pushed that one down?

Seems like things aren’t run the same when Ed isn’t around. I like seeing current stories on the HotAir main page at the top of the columns.

bluegill on March 18, 2013 at 8:07 AM

We’re not fooled. You’re just bitter that Sarah Palin is still at the top of Top Picks.

Bitter Clinger on March 18, 2013 at 8:34 AM

A Mar 17 post about the Pope didn’t get moved to “Top Picks” even though the first “Top Pick” is still a Mar 16 post?

bluegill on March 18, 2013 at 8:09 AM

The pope is old news, and from this point forward will continue to get older and older…

HiJack on March 18, 2013 at 8:34 AM

Schumer may be better served by submitting a bill that requires the cruiselines to develop and submit plans on how to rescue 5000-6000 people from a single ship in less than 48 hours.

This is why you’ll never find me on a cruise ship. No Navy or coast guard can rescue that many people. Thats why they tow the ships back with the passengers and crew aboard.

BobMbx on March 18, 2013 at 8:36 AM

Translation: Chuck U. Screwmer is pissed that the cruise lobby doesn’t fund his corruption.

Jayrae on March 18, 2013 at 8:36 AM

Schumer knows that the American people are too dumb to figure out that if a cruise line (or any other business) fails to give good, safe, dependable service and screws its customers over and over, they will find a competitor or quit going on cruises. The only reason to issue regulations or the threat of them is control.

In a way, I understand where Schumer is coming from. If you’re surrounded by a bunch of dependent victims and have to care for their needs as if they’re children, eventually you start acting like the nanny they expect you to be. The question is, which came first the victim or the nanny?

iamsaved on March 18, 2013 at 8:37 AM

Can we just get him to support our Bill of Rights?

JellyToast on March 18, 2013 at 8:21 AM

Zing! We have a winner.

Odysseus on March 18, 2013 at 8:39 AM

Even if they weren’t doing back flips in an effort to take care of the passengers, we still wouldn’t need the nanny state to intervene. The free market will take them out of the hunt fast enough if this is really some sort of endemic problem with a particular provider. But that’s probably not the case here.

This is generally the case with almost government regulations enacted after the fact. The free market would take care of the problem without government intervention.

A great example is what Johnson & Johnson did voluntarily and quickly without government coercion, and before government passed laws, to create tamper-proof packaging after the Tylenol murders.

All government does is create a vast self-perpetuating parasitic ever growing bureaucracy to make sure businesses do what they would do anyway. And it then taxes accordingly.

The sheeple vote for politicians who do this because they ignorantly believe that without such government action the evil corporations will exploit the people — The State must protect them (a socialism rallying cry). Nevermind that free market competition for the sheeple’s business would cause corporations do do it anyway.

farsighted on March 18, 2013 at 8:41 AM

Schumer knows that the American people are too dumb to figure out that if a cruise line (or any other business) fails to give good, safe, dependable service and screws its customers over and over, they will find a competitor or quit going on cruises. The only reason to issue regulations or the threat of them is control.

iamsaved on March 18, 2013 at 8:37 AM

This. And to perpetuate and feed Big Brother big government.

farsighted on March 18, 2013 at 8:46 AM

Although it is of little importance, I think that schumer is on the right track in the wrongway. I think the problem is that these cruise ships are registered in countries or countrylets other than The United States. They do this to employ cheap workers, many of whom have questionable understanding of safety, hygiene, etc. They are not Americans, and have the same problems as our president, who although is “natural born”, does not understand what America is. Let us enforce a form of cabotage where Liberian cruise liners can’t operate out of American ports.

Old Country Boy on March 18, 2013 at 8:47 AM

Leave it to a democrat to try and get the Government to help in doing something that is quite possibly the easiest thing to do on the planet… that is…

…not step foot on a cruise ship….ever..

Keep the hits going ole Chucky.

Defenestratus on March 18, 2013 at 8:51 AM

Shaking head……These political animals just can’t help injecting themselves into every situation imaginable. We need some sort of ejecting mechanism to get rid of them. I am sure Carnival will figure out when they start losing business that they need to step up to the plate and do something similar. STFU, Schumer.

BetseyRoss on March 18, 2013 at 8:58 AM

Can we just get him to support our Bill of Rights?

JellyToast on March 18, 2013 at 8:21 AM

Yup. Went on an Alaskan cruise last year. It was the best vacation ever. The ship was run very well, no complaints at all.

Fallon on March 18, 2013 at 9:07 AM

Cruise Czar, that’s the answer.

Like these aholes don’t have bigger problems to deal with, though maybe having them concentrate on meaningless crap like this is a good thing as long as it doesn’t result in legislation.

Bishop on March 18, 2013 at 9:07 AM

Another idiot trying to be useful. What is it with these politicians that think they need to control or name something? Isn’t there enough to do with the job they have to keep them busy running a country.

mixplix on March 18, 2013 at 9:16 AM

When I see Schmucky Chucky applying this much fervor to putting out a balanced budget for the country, after that he can go play on the Good Ship Lollypop to his heart’s content!

pilamaye on March 18, 2013 at 9:16 AM

I’m all for Schumer’s rules applying to US-flagged ships, of which there are currently very few.

Once the market determines that US ships complying with the regulations will charge $12,000 per cruise they will take their business elsewhere. But hey, in unions there is strength!

jangle12 on March 18, 2013 at 9:22 AM

worse things happen at sea.

And when they happen at sea, you need to add 3 zeros onto the cost.

ss396 on March 18, 2013 at 9:45 AM

As someone who has gone on several cruises (RCCL), I can say a few things.

First, as others have noted, any legislation will hardly impact cruise lines, since they are not US-registry. They’re not because they cannot afford labor rates. And they can’t because of silly liberal labor rules.

To the person who was saying we need to stop this, you’re not going to. Even if you eliminate the entire US cruising industry (which is what you’re talking about), people will go elsewhere for their cruises. The cost for an American-registry cruise vessel wouldn’t compete with a European-registry cruise vessel _even if you included transportation costs to that vessel_.

And no, these people care about safety and hygiene _because they lose business if they don’t_. The idea that people only care about these issues because they are forced to by government should be anathema to conservatives.

Scott H on March 18, 2013 at 9:53 AM

…cracked record…cracked head!

Loathsome nanny

…HEY!

Why is the first “top pick” post an article from two days ago? Shouldn’t newer posts have already pushed that one down?

Seems like things aren’t run the same when Ed isn’t around. I like seeing current stories on the HotAir main page at the top of the columns.

bluegill on March 18, 2013 at 8:07 AM
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A Mar 17 post about the Pope didn’t get moved to “Top Picks” even though the first “Top Pick” is still a Mar 16 post?

bluegill on March 18, 2013 at 8:09 AM

…Have you seen the SHRINK YET?

KOOLAID2 on March 18, 2013 at 9:53 AM

Jazz, you are more than welcomed to have used my version of Chucky for your cover photo. Wow the gilled one sure has herself in a real snit this a.m. completely out of sorts over the greatness of Palin. No cure for that little gillbilly.

Bmore on March 18, 2013 at 9:55 AM

The New York Democrat says Sunday he’ll be asking industry leaders to voluntarily adopt the guidelines which include guarantees that ships have sanitary conditions, back-up power, medical staff and other standard procedures.

As Jazz says, they already do.

No matter how one travels…plane, train, car, ship…there are always going to be problems somewhere. Most are smaller inconveniences like delays, some mechanical issues, nothing major, but still a headache for many. We normally don’t even hear about them until a bigger mess happens like the “poop” cruise, and then for a couple of weeks or so every little inconvenience is much more noticeable.

Wait a little longer, and they’ll all soon go back to being unreported.

JetBoy on March 18, 2013 at 10:01 AM

This sleaze-ball is an ambulance chaser. A perfect example of the despicable rat’s nest we call the Senate.

ultracon on March 18, 2013 at 10:08 AM

Hey Chuckie!

I’ll worry about the cruise industry when you start doing your job by . . . passing such things as a responsible balanced budget. For starters!

After all, if you can’t “. . . and get off the pot,” why should they. At least they can’t perpetually lie to me and keep their business. I have to put up with your insufferable and disingenuous crap no matter what.

EB

EdmundBurke247 on March 18, 2013 at 10:27 AM

Sen. Charles Schumer is calling on the cruise ship industry to adopt a ‘bill of rights’ to guarantee passengers certain protections while aboard their ships.

I think the cruise ship industry put him up to this. Once they get the fig leaf of a Bill of Rights which they can always proudly point to when people complain, they can go about violating it with impunity.

It work’s for the the Federal government splendidly.

Next up: A 2,000 page Terms and Conditions section with ticket reservations.

Dusty on March 18, 2013 at 10:32 AM

Chucky has already forgotten about this. He’s now sniffing out next weekend’s drama.

bloviator on March 18, 2013 at 10:54 AM

Another political point for a conservative politicians to come back with. “Why aren’t cruise ships American flagged?” Just like how Romney attempted to make the point as to why people invest off shore.

LoganSix on March 18, 2013 at 8:30 AM

Beware what you wish for. The Jones Act already requires ships that have both departure and arrival ports which are located in US waters to be built and flagged in the US. Chucky and his Dem regulator scum could push for Jones Act requirements to be enlarged to cover cruise ships if we aren’t vigilant.

Wanderlust on March 18, 2013 at 10:59 AM

Chuck is a typical Democrat opportunistic jack wagon.

david kumbera on March 18, 2013 at 11:19 AM

Yea, the public restrooms in NYC are top notch.

Hummer53 on March 18, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Another episode in Schumer’s eternal struggle for relevancy.

Besides, he has almost no jurisdiction since Congress has essentially taxed domestic cruise lines out of existence. Why do you think all your cruise ships sail under foreign flags and dock in Mexico or Canada?

Socratease on March 18, 2013 at 12:21 PM

The ship “stranded” in port in St. Martin, is there because of a breakdown in the emergency generator. They were testing the emergency generator when it failed. One of the very thing Chuckles wants to require. Maybe he should require them to have hulls too.

MTinMN on March 18, 2013 at 12:31 PM

Classic political manuvering. Schumer isn’t trying to accomplish anything here other than to take credit for ‘fixing’ the cruise line problems that the cruise lines themselves have adopted and are adopting.

DGOOCH on March 18, 2013 at 12:44 PM

We just need to send the New York Board of Health on all these cruise ships with 17-ounce measuring cups.

Crisis over!

There Goes The Neighborhood on March 18, 2013 at 12:53 PM

Schumer is an ongoing, greasy, oozing, festering, oil spill.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 18, 2013 at 1:10 PM

Charles Schumer is calling on the cruise ship industry to adopt a ‘bill of rights’ to guarantee passengers certain protections while aboard their ships.

Can we just get him to support our Bill of Rights?

JellyToast on March 18, 2013 at 8:21 AM

The only Bills of Rights he’s interested in are the ones that he thinks can buy him votes.

yhxqqsn on March 18, 2013 at 7:02 PM