Boehner: No, seriously, we’re not raising revenue this year

posted at 8:41 am on March 18, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Ah, yes, but is it seriously seriously? Inquiring minds at the White House want to know! As Barack Obama continues his “charm offensive,” John Boehner isn’t sounding charmed. He tells Martha Raddatz that the House is done with raising revenues after January’s tax hike, and that Obama should be showing more courage than charm:

House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, told ABC News’ Martha Raddatz during an exclusive interview for “This Week” that talk of including revenue as part of an effort to strike a so-called “grand bargain” to address the $16 trillion debt of the United States was “over,” leaving Democrats and Republicans where they have been for months – at loggerheads.

“The president believes that we have to have more taxes from the American people. We’re not going to get very far,” Boehner said. “The president got his tax hikes on January 1. The talk about raising revenue is over. It’s time to deal with the spending problem.” …

“We do not have an immediate debt crisis – but we all know that we have one looming,” he said. “And we have one looming because we have entitlement programs that are not sustainable in their current form. They’re going to go bankrupt.”

Raddatz plays a quote from ABC’s earlier interview with Obama in which he calls for a “smart” entitlement program. That has put Nancy Pelosi in a bind on the other side of the House aisle, according to The Hill:

President Obama’s openness to Social Security cuts as part of a sweeping budget package has put Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) in a tough spot.

The minority leader is straddling the gulf between a Democratic president who’s been willing to shrink pay hikes under the popular retirement program for the sake of a bipartisan deficit deal, and numerous liberals in her caucus who are fighting tooth-and-nail to prevent that change. …

First, she wants to keep a united front in the high-stakes budget battle with Obama, who has backed a less generous formula for inflationary adjustments to Social Security benefits in exchange for more tax revenue from Republicans.

Second, she wants to defend the views of her caucus, who largely oppose any change in the formula for calculating those benefits, particularly since it could hurt poor seniors who rely on Social Security for their everyday needs.

Third, she’s hoping to cultivate the image of Democrats as the more reasonable negotiators in the debate, the party willing to sacrifice in the name of deficit reduction and bipartisan compromise. Members of her caucus acknowledge it’s not an easy job to juggle the three.

At least the pressure seems to be going in the right direction — and with a President looking for a “legacy” other than adding $10 trillion in national debt over eight years, the momentum probably won’t shift in another direction soon.


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“We do not have an immediate debt crisis – but we all know that we have one looming,” he said.

What a lying sack. Is this the RINO response to CPAC? Bonehead has joined Zero’s team.

dogsoldier on March 18, 2013 at 8:46 AM

and jumped the shark.

dogsoldier on March 18, 2013 at 8:47 AM

No, they’ll just let Bernanke continue QE to finance continued spending, particularly Obamacare.

rickv404 on March 18, 2013 at 8:48 AM

We can all count on Republicans caving. Hope for the best.

antisocial on March 18, 2013 at 8:50 AM

So if I as a person have 100′s of thousands of $ of debt but I make the payments using cash advances from other credit cards, then I don’t have an immediate crises?

Plus Boehner says he trusts Dear leader. There’s a sign.

Dingbat63 on March 18, 2013 at 8:53 AM

Boehner told ABC News that he “absolutely tursts Barack Obama”.

He also told them that the two have a good relationship and that they’re ‘‘open with each other … honest with each other.’’

My take.

kingsjester on March 18, 2013 at 8:54 AM

“We do not have an immediate debt crisis – but we all know that we have one looming,” he said. “And we have one looming because we have entitlement programs that are not sustainable in their current form. They’re going to go bankrupt.”

That is like saying that we will not immediately die from cancer but we’re going to wait a while before beginning treatment.

Happy Nomad on March 18, 2013 at 8:59 AM

How’s Australia? I know they’ve got their share of troubles, but is it any better than here? Is it like a warm Canada or something?

happytobehere on March 18, 2013 at 8:59 AM

Can’t the Repubicans in the House dump this guy somehow? Can’t they form their own coalition and tell Boehner he needs to resign?
What have they got to lose? At least make they attempt!

Boehner and Cantor are why we are losing. What a time we are in. Just whern we need strong leadership the most, we’re stuck with appeasers and losers.

JellyToast on March 18, 2013 at 9:02 AM

The GOP will betray you.

You don’t want to go to Australia; fresh water issues, NYC-style gun control, and innumerable critters that can kill you.

Bishop on March 18, 2013 at 9:04 AM

We call this a momentum shift and it’s for the better.

I am not Mr. Boehner’s biggest fan and he has a long way to go in order to earn my trust. His past negotiations have been a disaster for Republicans and America.

But that being said, there is an opportunity here. Boehner is very comfortable with taking tax increases off the table because he can read the polls. Most working people got crushed in January with Mr. Obama’s tax hike “for the rich”, which was nothing of the sort. They are not in the mood for any additional tax discussions. Obamacare is financially crushing Americans across the board and destroying peoples healthcare access. Combined with the anti-Second Amendment push, which Mr. Obama has struggled to stay away from, there is serious momentum going against Democrats. Enough to actually endanger their control of the Senate at this point.

It time to negotiate a deal that is good for our country and fights back against the last 5 years of disaster. We need to incrementally take back control of our government.

Marcus Traianus on March 18, 2013 at 9:05 AM

This lying sack of shit could at least use the original English word – TAXES. He says “revenues” as if he gets his talking points from Ogabe team – and by the way he sounds, he likely does. Where is the Hastert rule when we need it?!

Archivarix on March 18, 2013 at 9:06 AM

You don’t want to go to Australia; fresh water issues, NYC-style gun control, and innumerable critters that can kill you.

Bishop on March 18, 2013 at 9:04 AM

As opposed to fresh air issues, NJ-style gun control, and innumerable critters in Newark that would *love* to kill me? I’ll take Australia, thank you very much.

Archivarix on March 18, 2013 at 9:09 AM

How’s Australia? I know they’ve got their share of troubles, but is it any better than here? Is it like a warm Canada or something?
happytobehere on March 18, 2013 at 8:59 AM

Have a Cuban friend who married an Aussie gal and moved there from Union City, NJ. Says, if the population size was the same, Australia would be worse.

They’re moving to Tasmania.

Cleombrotus on March 18, 2013 at 9:13 AM

Obama is a Tom Sawyer and has Boehner whitewashing the fence for him.

docflash on March 18, 2013 at 9:13 AM

THE GOP WILL BETRAY YOU. ALWAYS!

please tattoo this on your forehead so you never forget

GhoulAid on March 18, 2013 at 9:13 AM

happytobehere on March 18, 2013 at 8:59 AM

Check back in October, we should be on the way up.

OldEnglish on March 18, 2013 at 9:14 AM

Bishop on March 18, 2013 at 9:04 AM

Heh! We’re fine for water, now that La Nina dumped on us. :)

OldEnglish on March 18, 2013 at 9:16 AM

No, seriously, we’re not raising revenue this year

Seriously? No. I can’t take anyone seriously who calls tax rate increases “revenues”.

forest on March 18, 2013 at 9:17 AM

As Barack Obama continues his “charm offensive,”

Pretty tough to take the charm offensive seriously at the same time it is being noted that satan in The Bible bears a striking resemblence to Obama in a hoodie.

Happy Nomad on March 18, 2013 at 9:19 AM

Second, she wants to defend the views of her caucus, who largely oppose any change in the formula for calculating those benefits, particularly since it could hurt poor seniors who rely on Social Security for their everyday needs many incumbent liberal politicians who survive by playing Robin Hood.

BobMbx on March 18, 2013 at 9:32 AM

If the Republicans were smart…they would take whatever entitlement proposal they can get out of Obama and use it to demagogue him.

I can see the ads now…

Barack Obama says we need to raise the SS retirement age to 67. He also says we can’t cut Obamaphones out of the budget. Call him and tell him that we need to make sure we’ve trimmed the fat out of the budget before we consider his proposals to cut Social Security.

Because let us be serious, he isn’t going to cut any entitlements, nor will the Democrats in the Senate.

But we might be able to to force them to actually cut discretionary spending with the right pressures. And make no mistake, we will be cutting entitlements eventually – the only question is how much will we cut from Obama’s slush fund first…

18-1 on March 18, 2013 at 9:33 AM

Seriously? No. I can’t take anyone seriously who calls tax rate increases “revenues”.

forest on March 18, 2013 at 9:17 AM

Both the repubs and dems think the same way, it is their money. The repubs just like to borrow and spend, the dems tax and spend. It is all revenue to them.

Panther on March 18, 2013 at 9:36 AM

First, she wants to keep a united front in the high-stakes budget battle with Obama, who has backed a less generous formula for inflationary adjustments to Social Security benefits in exchange for more tax revenue from Republicans.

Second, she wants to defend the views of her caucus, who largely oppose any change in the formula for calculating those benefits, particularly since it could hurt poor seniors who rely on Social Security for their everyday needs.

What happened to real means testing as a long-term fix? Why does both Boehner and Obama appear to be embracing an immediate cut to vulnerable seniors thru this “chained CPI”? What happened to the “plan” that would not effect the current population of 55 and older?? Making/proposing COLA cuts based on adjusting the CPI could hit the low-income folks that are barely making ends meet. THIS IS NOT SOCIAL SECURITY REFORM. This is a bs short term fix that appeases both parties to be able to say, “we did something—today”—what a bunch of cowards.

Rovin on March 18, 2013 at 9:43 AM

Boehner

…HE’S DRUNK!

KOOLAID2 on March 18, 2013 at 9:44 AM

What the hell are “revenues”? You mean taxes?

Kataklysmic on March 18, 2013 at 9:55 AM

As opposed to fresh air issues, NJ-style gun control, and innumerable critters in Newark that would *love* to kill me? I’ll take Australia, thank you very much.

Archivarix on March 18, 2013 at 9:09 AM

You can move from NJ, Australia’s gun ban is nationwide. And their critters…MAN…watching “Animal Planet” with my kids it’s like a horror show down there; if the crocs don’t get you while swimming, the spiders and snakes bite you in your sleep and you never wake up.

Bishop on March 18, 2013 at 10:03 AM

Seriously, what is a ‘smart entitlement’? Could someone please ask the devil in a hoodie what exactly is a ‘smart entitlement’. Is it like the smart reset button Shrillary gave to the Rooskies? They throw that word around like it’s supposed to impress someone that the new plan will be better than the old plan.

Kissmygrits on March 18, 2013 at 10:03 AM

Several things.

The GOP in Congress needs to identify a generally recognized set of tax facts and start repeating them in interviews over and over and over again.

First, get a 20-year bar graph dating back to Clinton’s first year comparing annual spending to annual tax receipts. Too many Americans are running around believing the Dem talking point that the Bush tax cuts turned off the tax revenues. It’s BS, but the GOP doesn’t refute it. Every GOP member should have that on an 8 1/2 X 11 piece of paper to hold up every time the question arises.

Second, member of the GOP should have a pie graph with percentages illustrating which federal taxes generate which percentage of the annual federal tax revenues. Just use the most recent year. The interesting point on this is that corporate income taxes generate only about 10% to 12% of the tax revenue.

Third, for the most recent year available, the GOP should have a bar graph illustrating which level of individual taxable income is paying what amount of individual income taxes. People need to see that distribution.

Fourth, for good measure, the GOP should figure out how much tax revenue would be generated if the feds confiscated all the taxable income of individuals in ever-enlarging groups of top taxpayers to illustrate what it would take to cover Obama’s spending.

Beyond that, the GOP should punch Obama in the mouth on this three favorite talking points.

Corporate jets: as I understand it, all we’re talking about is a timing difference between depreciating these planes over 7-years rather than five years. Show how much or how little tax revenue it would generate. It’s a joke. The flipside is that if Obama wants it so bad, it’ll damage the industry.

Carried interest: I could give a crap about the wealthy people who derive the benefit from this, but it might do some harm to the investment markets. That said, these people are largely Obama supporters. Let Obama stick it to his own.

“Loopholes” for shipping jobs overseas: this is BS. Any business is entitled to deduct moving expenses and whatnot. But my father, the 40-year manufacturing manager with Procter & Gamble pointed out to me this weekend that what idiots like DC pols don’t understand is that companies like P&G make products (high volume, low price) that have to be made near their market because it’s cost prohibitive to manufacture them in the US and ship them overseas.

Territorial tax system: and if Obama and Dems would cooperate in tax reform and join the rest of the world by adopting a territorial corportate tax system, US companies might be more likely to repatriate earnings and, in turn, start paying out dividends to taxpayers.

Repatriation of earnings: the GOP needs to harp that were one of only a few still with a non-territorial

Alas, I’m sure that all we’ll see and hear are too many instances of unprepared and uninformed members of the DC GOP. It’s painful to watch these morons.

BuckeyeSam on March 18, 2013 at 10:20 AM

Raising revenue = raising taxes,

He’s not reducing spending either: http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2013/03/17/John-Boehner-Trusts-Obama-Agrees-Debt-Not-Immediate-Problem

What are you doing there, Boehner? Get out of the way and let somebody do the job you’re not doing.

davidk on March 18, 2013 at 10:28 AM

He’ll cave. Just like dog’s are drawn to eating rabbit pellets the ruling elite is drawn to stealing our money.

acyl72 on March 18, 2013 at 10:59 AM

He’ll cave. Just like dog’s are drawn to eating rabbit pellets the ruling elite is drawn to stealing our money.

acyl72 on March 18, 2013 at 10:59 AM

Very colorful. And accurate.

bofh on March 18, 2013 at 11:06 AM

Nothing is going to happen because the president doesn’t want it to. Boehner is speaking in soft language so Obama cannot go after him and the intrangient GOP. If Boehner uses stronger language it will blow up in his face, because Obama has no intent of cutting spending.

Zomcon JEM on March 18, 2013 at 11:36 AM

Could someone please ask the devil in a hoodie

Hilarious. Wonder how he golfs in that hoodie.

LetsBfrank on March 18, 2013 at 11:58 AM

GOP Congress, Vampire Slayers

A sick America. We are borrowing 40% of our blood.

We have a vampire infection of Americans sucking the blood out of other Americans.

Instead of sleeping, trance like, in coffins, the infected go campaigning or passing bills they haven’t read. The goal is always more blood.

Only some congressman named Paul Ryan has an idea to resist and he keeps weakening. The infected turn themselves into different things, scare people and use police, firemen and teachers as pawns.

Finally the action starts when they decide to chase the Vampires while they campaign and drag them out into sunlight.

It gets very ugly and sometimes violent with crosses held up high at the evil, blood sucking, anti-religious programs, townspeople encouraged nay, even paid, to appear with pitchforks and torches, wild GOP leaders with stakes at campaign rallies, giving the infected no rest or even respite.

Getting the characters to realistically do any of this is the problem…. where is Pappy and Tom Daschle?

IlikedAUH2O on March 18, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Sometime in the not distant past the GOP and dems got together and decided to play good cop bad cop with the American people. Guess what it’s working.

bgibbs1000 on March 18, 2013 at 12:47 PM

“We do not have an immediate debt crisis – but we all know that we have one looming,” he said.

Right. $16.5 trillion is just a number!!!!!!!!!!! How can anyone with say this stuff with a straight face?????

And when they start talking about cutting entitlements why is it that Social Security (the one program most recipients actually pay into for 40 or more years)? Why isn’t it ever Medicaid, food stamps, welfare, SSI, housing, freebies for illegals, etc.?

When the hell is someone with a mind going to shut off the value of money we throw off to all these other countries who in return hate us?

Sequestration? BHO has already spent billions more this year than last year!

katablog.com on March 18, 2013 at 12:51 PM

hello….speaker you already raised rev with the fiscal cliff this year. short term memory problems?

unseen on March 18, 2013 at 1:03 PM

STOP SAYING “REVENUE!!!

It’s TAXES!!

Revenue is a Democrat weasel-word to avoid saying that they intend to RAISE TAXES!!!

Stop helping Democrats avoid telling the ugly truth about their plans, for crying out loud.

TAXES!!! TAXES!!! TAXES!!!

novaculus on March 18, 2013 at 1:21 PM

Boehner: No, seriously, we’re not raising revenue this year

Boehner already did increase taxes this year. As I recall he gave Obama $416 Billion from all the “rich” people.

RJL on March 18, 2013 at 1:50 PM

This lying sack of shit could at least use the original English word – TAXES. He says “revenues” as if he gets his talking points from Ogabe team – and by the way he sounds, he likely does. Where is the Hastert rule when we need it?!

Archivarix on March 18, 2013 at 9:06 AM

They aren’t taxes. They aren’t revenues, either. Same as Romney called them in MA they will be called FEES, solving the sales job these idiots are doing on uneducated crowd.

riddick on March 18, 2013 at 5:18 PM

Boehner has given up on any pretense of being an opposition leader. He is now on the other side and must be replaced.

Mr. Grump on March 19, 2013 at 8:28 AM