Quotes of the day
posted at 8:31 pm on March 15, 2013 by Allahpundit
Should the Republican party abandon social conservatism? Take a turn toward non-interventionism? Moderate on taxes and spending? While a number of pundits and politicians have said ‘yes’ to one or more of these questions, especially since Mitt Romney’s loss in November, Marco Rubio answered with a resounding ‘no’ during his speech to the Conservative Political Action Conference on Thursday…
“There’s this fear that America has changed, that our people have changed, that we’ve reached this point in time where we have too many people who want too much from government and maybe the changes that happened are irreversible and we’ll never be the same again,” Rubio said. “I want you to understand that’s not true.” Speaking of one economically struggling family he knows, Rubio said, “They’re not freeloaders. They’re not liberals.” But if they don’t see Republicans offering solutions, they might conclude government is the only answer.
Rubio has been in the news for the past couple of months making a push for immigration reform–a stance that, although squarely in line with the only Republicans to win the presidency in the past 40 years, puts him at odds with many conservatives. But during his CPAC speech, Rubio didn’t mention immigration. Rather Rubio argued that the three-legged stool of the conservative movement is as sturdy as ever.
Paul’s positions may sound refreshing today, but they would have been much more in keeping in a bygone era. It wasn’t until Republicans embraced the more Rubio-esque ideas that they began winning elections. That’s why his ideas are now considered “old.”
That’s not to say past is prologue. Maybe the world has changed? But it is to say that the old versus new paradigm is more complicated.
The reason the Rubio vs. Paul contrast is so exciting is that on one hand, both are young senators elected in 2010 during the tea party zeitgeist. But on the other hand, they really do represent an ideological clash over the heart and soul of the GOP.
Before Paul spoke, his supporters had distributed STAND WITH RAND posters that featured a cool, “Mad Men”-style rendering of the senator. (Indeed, a large number of people stood the entire time Paul spoke.) But there’s no doubt that many of those cheering Paul were doing so mostly because he had the courage and the smarts not just to stand up to the White House but to back the Obama administration into a corner over presidential power. To them, the specific issue involved in the filibuster — drone warfare — was less important than the fact that Paul took a stand…
Rubio, nearly a decade younger than Paul, delivered a smoother and easier message. “What I sense from a lot of people that I’ve been talking to is this fear that somehow America has changed, that our people have changed,” he said. “I want you to understand that’s not true. Our people have not changed.” Americans still work hard, still pay their taxes, still volunteer in their hometowns, Rubio said. Yes, the world has changed, particularly the world of technology. But traditions — traditional marriage, traditional values — are still good…
One serious problem for the party is that there is no living embodiment of the our-values-live-on message. There’s no beloved former president who can stand before the crowd and remind them of the greatness of their cause. Reagan is gone, and George H.W. Bush, respected but not loved like his predecessor, is fading from the scene. The natural candidate for the job, of course, would be George W. Bush, but that’s just not possible. While conservatives respect Bush for the job he did protecting the country from terrorist attack after Sept. 11, in many ways they are still struggling to climb out of the hole he dug for them.
Those Democratic events where a beloved Bill Clinton wows the crowd? That can’t happen for Republicans. Not until the new leader steps out of the pack.
How long can the lovefest last? Once the mass Republican audience—especially Mitt Romney voters—really thinks about the implications of Rand Paul and his ideas, the post-filibuster love may sour. Paul’s chief of staff Doug Stafford told Business Insider, “Rand is one of the only people who can speak to libertarians, social conservatives, as well as your average mainstream Republican voter.” In theory, yes.
But even in areas where Paul’s libertarianism shouldn’t be too controversial—like his five-year path to a balanced budget—hardly any of his political colleagues are willing to play along, and there’s no mass constituency forcing them to. It’s not likely the rest of his party – whether rank-and-file voter or office-seeking politician – will get enthusiastic about his attempts to curb the federal drug war either.
Paul’s problems with Republican orthodoxy run deeper still. In order to keep her head from exploding from cognitive dissonance while remaining on the new right side of Republican history, the Washington Post’s right-wing columnist Jennifer Rubin praised Paul’s filibuster by claiming that he “wasn’t attacking the war on terror.”
But Paul absolutely was attacking the war on terror…
No issue better illustrates Rubio’s connection to the failed Republican Washington establishment than his embrace of President Bush’s last great policy failure: amnesty for the millions of illegal immigrants currently in the United States. He is currently working with McCain on another immigration bill right now.
In contrast to his free enterprise rhetoric, however, Rubio’s immigration plan is just a continuation of the crony capitalist policies that so compromised Bush’s big government compassionate conservatism. As The Washington Examiner‘s Tim Carney notes today, Rubio’s immigration plan includes a permanent guest worker program that allows farmers to inflate their workers wages by offering something no other employer can: a path to citizenship…
Do conservative activists want to go back to the big government compassionate conservatism policies of Bush and McCain? Or do they want to explore the libertarian path being paved by Paul?
I think Poulos is onto something regarding younger voters – charitably defined as anyone under 45 years old – regardless of political ideology. The expectations for government are changing in all sorts of unanticipated ways. A majority of Americans continues to say that government is doing too much but a majority also wants the government to provide basic safety net functions. Folks such as Ryan and Barack Obama seem to read that situation as one in which the state can and should continue to provide not simply for the poorest among us but for the vast “middle class” that usually includes about 90 percent of people. That was George W. Bush’s compassionate conservatism – and Ryan voted for No Child Left Behind, Medicare drugs, and TARP and auto bailouts – and it’s Obama’s expansive notions as well. I think it’s credible to see Ryan (and many conservative Republicans, Obama, and the Senate Democrats (who have zero pulse among them) as in the same basic camp of still expecting the government to be a warm blanket that pretty much covers everything you do in your regular day.
What’s different now is that there is an alternative out there – in the form of characters such as Rand Paul, Justin Amash, and other “wacko birds” – that is looking increasingly viable. When you’ve got conservative and libertarian Republicans attacking the garrison state for 13 hours straight and also championing copyright and IP reform, gay marriage, pot and hemp legalization, even self-styled “Young Guns” such as Paul Ryan and historically youthful presidents such as Barack Obama start looking pretty old pretty quickly.
As for predictions on who will win the CPAC straw poll on Saturday, Bob Beckel said he is “willing to wager any amount of money” that it will be Rand Paul. And after the enthusiasm that greeted his speech earlier today, that seems like a fair assumption. Dana Perino argued that the winner of CPAC straw poll almost never goes on to win the Republican presidential nomination, so the importance of that honor, especially this far from 2016, may be insignificant…
“Rand Paul is the one guy that worries me very much and most Democrats,” Beckel answered. “In fact, there is some real fear the guy could actually take off.” His colleagues weren’t buying that he was being sincere, but there is some truth to what Beckel was saying. If there’s one Republican who’s riding high from his filibuster and now CPAC, it has to be Rand Paul.
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Not buying.
Del Dolemonte on May 20, 2013 at 4:44 PM
Aside from these revealing facts, Obama’s peculiarly sneaky-speak statement from under the Marine-held umbrella the other day was more than enough to tell me that he knew about this, was involved in this — the IRS targeting scheme and practice — and that he was lying about not being involved, “not knowing” about it.
He knew. He hadn’t considered being publicly challenged about it, is what I think, and why Obama’s mumbled, bumbled, uhh, umm, sheltered effort at lying about his knowledge about it.
Lourdes on May 20, 2013 at 4:45 PM
Same time as Holder.
CTSherman on May 20, 2013 at 4:45 PM
Geppetto’s gonna need to ramp up production quick with these fools still running things…
Common Sense Floridian on May 20, 2013 at 4:46 PM
Implausible Deni-ability. Denial is not just a river anymore it’s a flood.
JimK on May 20, 2013 at 4:46 PM
To believe Carney is to accept that Barack Obama is a hothouse flower, Mr. Knucklehead Smith In Office or out of it.
Lourdes on May 20, 2013 at 4:47 PM
So, when’s McDonough getting fired?
I’ll go with never. Obama doesn’t hold himself accountable for anything, so why would he hold his inner circle accountable? That would mean somebody actually did something wrong and he doesn’t think they did.
JAM on May 20, 2013 at 4:47 PM
Lies…lies…you’re telling me that you’ll be true.
Lies…lies…that’s all I ever get from you..
The Return of the Lyin’ King.
kingsjester on May 20, 2013 at 4:47 PM
Someone needs to call Carney ‘Ron’ or ‘Mr Nessen’.
JEM on May 20, 2013 at 4:48 PM
Nonsense. Obummer knew. He’s a liar.
File the impeachment paperwork and get it done.
TX-96 on May 20, 2013 at 4:48 PM
This looks like administrative death by a million ‘skeeter bites. Now I’m wondering who will be the first to jump in the alligator infested water to escape….
Turtle317 on May 20, 2013 at 4:48 PM
The football, who has it?
Lourdes on May 20, 2013 at 4:48 PM
Sounds like CYA bullshit to me.
Mimzey on May 20, 2013 at 4:48 PM
Exactly. There isn’t a damn thing any common sense person should ever believe from this man.
CTSherman on May 20, 2013 at 4:49 PM
This is shockingly good watching Milhouse O’bama’s administration squirm and twist.
portlandon on May 20, 2013 at 4:49 PM
Carney’s pressers remind me daily of the point when the Titanic started to catch water.
Myron Falwell on May 20, 2013 at 4:49 PM
http://youtu.be/vAJCHd0dJas
Lourdes on May 20, 2013 at 4:50 PM
So is this Carney’s attempt at a Lois Lerner-stye modified limited hangout? or is he actually closer to being an idiot?
de rigueur on May 20, 2013 at 4:51 PM
Come on.
Baby don’t you want to go?
Come on.
Baby don’t you want to go?
Back to that same old place,
Sweet Home CHICAGO.
portlandon on May 20, 2013 at 4:51 PM
This was all plausible right up to the point of Obama wasn’t told because we didn’t want to interfere with the IG’s audit.
Not one soul at today’s Carney Ride asked the real question, and that was why the whole get the conservatives campaign started the day after the IRS Union head visited Obama in his office.
oldroy on May 20, 2013 at 4:52 PM
And here I thought he was just being aloof, but it turns out he’s been sleeping with his eyes open for the past five years.
Sgt Steve on May 20, 2013 at 4:52 PM
Barry has gone to new heights in ‘plausible deny-ability’.
No wonder he can’t get anything done. He doesn’t know what’s going on.
Time for another round of golf, a quick vacation, then another party at the White House.
GarandFan on May 20, 2013 at 4:52 PM
Ok, seriously folks. If nothing happens impeachment wise, do people just laugh at Barry from now on whenever he speaks? What about the next state of the union address, etc. I’d like to know your thoughts on how this plays out if he skates.
GhoulAid on May 20, 2013 at 4:52 PM
All evidence points to the second.
jimver on May 20, 2013 at 4:53 PM
Obama headed to Africa, the only place left that doesn’t know about Benghazi,IRS Harassment,Fast & Furious,AP Media Spying.
portlandon on May 20, 2013 at 4:53 PM
Ok, first let’s get this out of the way. Obama knew. He knew last year before the election. He probably was aware all along and if he wasn’t directly responsible for the IRS’s actions, the people who were responsible were merely doing his bidding.
Now as for why Carney and the rest of the regime seem so eager to paint Obama out to be the biggest ignoramus who ever sat in the Oval Office, I can only assume it’s for two reasons. The first is plausible deniability. If this were to ever be linked to Obama, he’s finished. The second reason is the Limbaugh theorem. Obama can never be seen as governing, lest he be held accountable for anything that goes wrong. Even taking an active role in trying to clean up this IRS mess could bite him in ass if down the road it’s revealed that it’s still going on. Better to just be totally out of the loop in every capacity.
Doughboy on May 20, 2013 at 4:54 PM
Whether he knew or not…it’s the atmosphere he has created, unchecked, un-managed.
Bring a gun to a knife fight, attack, attack, attack, that is how he administers.
Like a mafia boss,they never have to say what they want done, they just make it “known”…
right2bright on May 20, 2013 at 4:54 PM
Oh, they know about Benghazi. Every “community organization” in Africa is running around well armed right now because of our intervention in Libya.
oldroy on May 20, 2013 at 4:55 PM
Mooch needed a vacay. Got another continent to check of her bucket list.
HumpBot Salvation on May 20, 2013 at 4:56 PM
Can the RICO act be used against ChicagoJesus?
portlandon on May 20, 2013 at 4:56 PM
Oops, wrong Ron. Meant Ziegler.
JEM on May 20, 2013 at 4:56 PM
Ok, seriously folks. If nothing happens impeachment wise, do people just laugh at Barry from now on whenever he speaks? What about the next state of the union address, etc. I’d like to know your thoughts on how this plays out if he skates.
GhoulAid on May 20, 2013 at 4:52 PM
He is lame duck, no leadership skill and looked at as irrelevant and a fallen celebrity. The question is how does he handle the fall, does he go Linsey Lohan or does it just snort it up all in his nose like scarface ?
Conservative4ev on May 20, 2013 at 4:56 PM
It’s the same reason he disappeared during Benghazi. Manufactured deniability.
“Someone did what? I heard about it when you did.”
jnelchef on May 20, 2013 at 4:56 PM
Then there need to be mass firings and resignations, if Obama’s people hid things from him. But we know they didn’t.
These ever-changing BS lines will stop when criminal charges are finally filed. The first two people to come forward with the truth will face lesser charges, with a deal requesting suspended sentences. Then file complaints with the Bar Association and let them do their thing, too. NO immunity.
It’s not only important to mete out punishment now, but also to prevent a future Administration from trying anything similar. A free people deserve much better than we’re getting.
Liam on May 20, 2013 at 4:57 PM
Agreed.. Bigger moron than Gibbs. (And I didn’t think that this was possible.)
At least Baghdad Bob was entertaining.
Illinidiva on May 20, 2013 at 4:57 PM
Just in…BHO & Mooch to travel to Africa next month…
gettin’ outta Dodge…
PatriotRider on May 20, 2013 at 4:58 PM
Fired?
Heck, that will earn her a promotion and maybe even a public service award!
redshirt on May 20, 2013 at 4:58 PM
When the King cries out “Who will rid me of the meddlesome Tea Party?” the knights know what to do without it being spelled out.
jnelchef on May 20, 2013 at 4:59 PM
Just in…BHO & Mooch to travel to Africa next month…
gettin’ outta Dodge…
PatriotRider on May 20, 2013 at 4:58 PM
I guess he needs more tips from odinga
Conservative4ev on May 20, 2013 at 4:59 PM
I have a question. Doesn’t “plausible deniability” require plausibility?
Blaise on May 20, 2013 at 4:59 PM
No.
The only possibility is he’s a “don’t bring me any bad news” president. And that is no good.
rbj on May 20, 2013 at 5:00 PM
Right now the press is playing a big Alphonse-and-Gaston game.
If Obama looks to be going down, no one’s gonna cover for him. If the public turns, the press will too.
But…until that moment, no one wants to be the first one to take a bite out of his backside, because if he doesn’t fall the guy who took the shot (metaphorically) and missed becomes unemployable.
JEM on May 20, 2013 at 5:00 PM
Not that I can think of off the top of my head, especially since the White House Counsel IS the attorney for the President (not personally, but in an official capacity). The WHC is the point of contact between the WH and the DOJ.
If there were ethical considerations or policy v political positions involved, i.e., we don’t want the White House possibly interfering with an ongoing investigation in an agency under its control, one would think that an ethics rule would prohibit the IG/agency from alerting the President’s lawyer until the investigation was complete.
Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 5:00 PM
The president knew from march of 09….. He let loose the cracken and told the minions to go forth and run amok …..
Tilly on May 20, 2013 at 5:01 PM
Why would she tell him about something he ordered himself ?
burrata on May 20, 2013 at 5:01 PM
Oh, she been there on numerous occasions, only not in her capacity as Marie Antoinette II :)
jimver on May 20, 2013 at 5:01 PM
So Obama’s strategy this week has been “Hey, I’m black, and was raised by a single parent.”
What’s next?
portlandon on May 20, 2013 at 5:02 PM
Yep, the waiting game…
jimver on May 20, 2013 at 5:02 PM
I’m for changing the locks.
katy the mean old lady on May 20, 2013 at 5:02 PM
So can anyone charge these goons? Can the House? Because nothing is more sure than Obama’s administration is going to do precisely nothing except give bonus’s and promotions to people. Or is the only remedy impeachment? Failing that, it’s time to rock and roll Lexington and Concord style, right?
Vanceone on May 20, 2013 at 5:03 PM
So, when is Obama going to fire these advisors that withheld information from him?
bw222 on May 20, 2013 at 5:03 PM
I bet Valerie Jarret knew.
I wouldn’t be surprised if that crack head has been wearing slick pants and hoodies to the Oval Office, watching SportsCenter and drone videos of Pakistan villages getting bombed all day, and no one told him because the real President ValJar was the one directing traffic.
cptacek on May 20, 2013 at 5:03 PM
portlandon on May 20, 2013 at 5:02 PM
That Morehouse speech was something, else, huh?
kingsjester on May 20, 2013 at 5:03 PM
Forget trying to nail Obama unless a red-hot smoking gun appears in his hand (and maybe not even then with this media).
Hammer the uncontrollable big-govt aspect of this, and throw the book at the underlings who actually did these deeds. This was an effort to “discourage” political participation.
An even greater effort needs to be made to hoist heads on pikes so that anyone in a position of govt power will know what will happen if they decide to go “rogue,” whether ordered to do so or not.
questionmark on May 20, 2013 at 5:04 PM
Bush’s faul… er, McDonough’s fault!!!
Ukiah on May 20, 2013 at 5:05 PM
So in the span of one week we’ve gone from only the IRS knew and The White House wasn’t involved to everybody in the White House BUT Obama knew…
Was THIS how Benghazi happened? Because Obama isn’t really doing his job and his underlings are secretly making decisions for him?
Skywise on May 20, 2013 at 5:05 PM
So, Obama really is an empty suit. No one tells him anything because there’s no reason to. That’s what they’re telling us, right? They should have just said so sooner. Then we wouldn’t have wondered where he was during the Benghazi attack, since it really didn’t matter.
RadClown on May 20, 2013 at 5:05 PM
What did the President know?
….And, when did he know it?
Paging Mr. Butterfield…. Mr. Butterfield….
MikeHu on May 20, 2013 at 5:05 PM
Potential findings? Why do I find it hard to believe that the WH didn’t have the IG’s report beforehand? If not the whole report, at least the findings?
Which leads me to ask, why does the IG notify just about everyone when the report is done and announces publications a week in advance? Would he do that without also giving others, notably the WH, time to read it first?
Another question, this on the redactions. Who decided what should be redacted? The IG or did he have suggestions from others? Is the IG’s office also the one who is fielding all the questions pertaining to the report or is it now some other department doing so?
Dusty on May 20, 2013 at 5:06 PM
If he didn’t know he is too incompetent and lazy to do his job.
That means he can’t bother to do his duties, which makes him unfit to do the job… which means he must go either by resignation or via impeachment.
That is what happens when you start spouting that the President didn’t know about his job duties. Start saying that and you are actually saying he must go.
ajacksonian on May 20, 2013 at 5:06 PM
because they only wake him up for important stuff,like for his servicing by boytoy, or when it’s time for him to party and golf ,
or meet jihadies !!
burrata on May 20, 2013 at 5:06 PM
ABA CANONS OF PROFESSIONAL ETHICS1
Canon 15. How Far a Lawyer May Go in Supporting a Client’s Cause
….But it is steadfastly to be borne
in the mind that the great trust of the lawyer is to be performed within and not without the
bounds of the law. The office of attorney does not permit, much less does it demand of
him for any client, violation of law or any manner of fraud or chicane. He must obey his
own conscience and not that of his client.
IlikedAUH2O on May 20, 2013 at 5:07 PM
timing.
ted c on May 20, 2013 at 5:08 PM
Liberals are so honest and caring and dreamy.
John the Libertarian on May 20, 2013 at 5:09 PM
Um, bollocks. There’s no way those people didn’t inform Obama. To suggest such a thing is laughable on its face.
Midas on May 20, 2013 at 5:11 PM
There’s another possibility, which is even worse – and there is significant evidence that indicates it exists.
Obama is isolated and surrounded by a small coterie of ‘yes’ men and Valerie Jarret. There have been countless stories as to how Jarrett, in particular, keeps Obama in a bubble and away from even the most moderate criticism. In his insular world, he is only told how great he is, how fantastic his policies are, how is opponents are only anti-American racists and bigots, and that the majority of Americans absolutely adore him. It’s the ‘Emperor has no clothes’ story.
It would not surprise me in the slightest if Obama’s political people – like Jarret – have told his administrative people – like his CofS and WHC – that EVERYTHING must go through them. If the White House is as subdivided and insulated as even the MSM has admitted on numerous occasions, it is possible that he is purposefully being denied the information that he should receive.
In no way should this be read as an attempt to make excuses for Obama. Obama is ultimately responsible for what happens in his West Wing and the executive branch. If his failure to act responsibly as the CEO and his delegation of authority, in effect, renders him impotent and open to being blindsided, that is no one’s fault but his own.
Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 5:11 PM
Names please!
Was Jay Carney included as one of these “other senior White House staff?
Who will be the first intrepid Reporter to ask Jay Carney directly if he was included in this notification?
wren on May 20, 2013 at 5:12 PM
The Knickerbockers?! Yikes!
vityas on May 20, 2013 at 5:13 PM
The Crime-Fraud Exception: Clark v. United States, 289 U.S. 1, 15 (1933)
The most important exception to the Attorney-Client Privilege as related to criminal investigations is the Crime-Fraud Exception which holds that attorneys are required to disclose confidential client information and/or communications to the court when necessary. Specifically, disclosure is required as a means preventing the client from abusing the attorney-client relationship by using as a means to facilitate criminal activity.
Further on attorney-client privilege,
Most jurisdictions also either allow or require the attorney to reveal privileged information if disclosure of that information will prevent significant physical harm or harm to the property or financial interest of a third party (Silverman, 1997). Also, the client can inadvertently waive his/her attorney-client privilege if he/she fails to object to the demand for disclosure during court proceedings or any other litigation to the opposing party. Once the privilege is waived, the waiver is applied to all facets of the privilege.
IlikedAUH2O on May 20, 2013 at 5:13 PM
So I suppose that if Obama’s doctor found out Obama had stage II cancer he wouldn’t tell Obama, but would just wait until it got to stage IIII and Obama figured it out himself or heard about it on TV.
VorDaj on May 20, 2013 at 5:13 PM
This administration is like the Kiddie school
for government..yesterday, we get treated to an obnoxious
idiot named Dan on all the Sunday news programs, and then
back to the work week with Jay…..
Next up, Hitler youth Messina…Wow, that’s
a mighty PALE COMPLEXION your Administration has Mr. President.
ToddPA on May 20, 2013 at 5:14 PM
Obama has ignored the black community for 5 years now. Suddenly he cares?
It’s just like Clinton during the Lewinsky scandal going to church and openly carry a Bible. Of course the Bible got larger as the scandal got worse.
portlandon on May 20, 2013 at 5:15 PM
It’s now a game of “Senior Man With a Secret”.
Jeff Weimer on May 20, 2013 at 5:15 PM
OK MSM here is how we fix this and get back to the America we grew up in. We know you guys have been sitting on the bombshell birth cert that PROVES dear liar was born in Kenya. We KNOW you guys have his college transcripts where he lists himself as a foreign exchange student. Add to that the Connecticut SSN he uses and BINGO you have a way to walk back all this carp. Is it really more important that your lib-progressive agenda be forwarded or is it more important to protect this country and everything it stands for? First they came for the AP, then they came for Fox. Do you REALLY think this guy will care that you carried his water? You are next MSM. I know you don’t care about conservatives but are you REALLY so blind that you would let this continue to happen? The clock is ticking MSM…tick….tick….tick
neyney on May 20, 2013 at 5:15 PM
If true, my guess is Valerie Jarrett is the firewall.
emz35 on May 20, 2013 at 5:16 PM
Im thinking that you may be right. His world is awfully small, or it appears as it is. If he can maintain some semblance of ignorance because he has a functioning filter, then what blame can touch him? If he’s not making the decisions, then who the f*ck is? Somebody that wasn’t elected, I’m sure.
ted c on May 20, 2013 at 5:16 PM
portlandon on May 20, 2013 at 5:15 PM
Yep.
kingsjester on May 20, 2013 at 5:18 PM
Anyone in the position to do so should just start (nicely, of course – you know, “bless his heart”) ridiculing Obama as a pitiful naif, incapable of controlling his people. Start discounting him and deal with his underlings, since he doesn’t know anything anyway.
He wants to claim to be above it all, so just leave him out. Anytime he tries to insinuate himself into a situation treat him like the little girl trying on Momma ‘s clothes, then ignore him.
The presidency has overgrown its intended boundaries anyway and I can’t think of a better time to start reining it in.
questionmark on May 20, 2013 at 5:18 PM
His rat eared azz should be in jail.
Big Orange on May 20, 2013 at 5:19 PM
Let me be clear. At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing or to whom they were doing it. Anyone who says differently is a conspiracy theorist wacko and a racist.
VorDaj on May 20, 2013 at 5:19 PM
I don’t think that is applicable in this case insomuch as there would, presumably, be no violation of law, fraud, or chicane for the IG to advise the WHC, who, in turn as the President’s counsel, advises him of the existence of the probe and its likely outcome. If a POTUS attempted to use the WHC for improper or illegal activities – as Nixon did John Dean – and Counsel then violated the law or otherwise acted unethically, then I think Canon 15 would apply.
The WHC merely properly advising the POTUS of an ongoing investigation, which it has been advised properly of by an IG, does not seem to me, at least, to be violative of Canon 15.
Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 5:20 PM
Willful ignorance? I think its worse than that.
Obama isn’t ignorant. He knows all this shit. But no one ever tells him anything in any way that can be documented later. And then they all pretend he doesn’t know shit, because they all understand what it takes to protect the boss.
It is just a stinking, corrupt charade, through and through.
novaculus on May 20, 2013 at 5:20 PM
Call the travel office, change their tickets to one-way. I’ll chip in if there are fees associated with the change.
Midas on May 20, 2013 at 5:20 PM
White House Chief of Staff got Treasury IG IRS report early; helped plan the ‘response’ (and gradual, ‘friendly’ leak of it) prior to it’s unveiling. BIG question; did they have input on the redaction of key information?
michaelo on May 20, 2013 at 5:21 PM
Bingo. Go after the institutions and neuter them.
I’d love to see O or some of his inner circle nailed on this, but it’s far bigger than just 1 person or 1 administration. It’s about the inherent tendency of big government towards corruption of this kind, a charge which is not defensible with “I didn’t know it was happening”.
This is an opportunity to really put the screws on some of these institutions, and to advance the narrative that this is the inevitable result of a massive federal government. It would be a shame to forget both of those things just to chase O instead.
rightmind on May 20, 2013 at 5:21 PM
Watch.
Nobody will be fired. Nobody will be jailed. The players involved will be reinstated and promoted.
Good Lt on May 20, 2013 at 5:22 PM
That wasn’t his Bible.
VegasRick on May 20, 2013 at 5:23 PM
Maybe the RNC should buy one minute every hour at ESPN and call it “LIV News”, and get Fox News to put it together.
slickwillie2001 on May 20, 2013 at 5:23 PM
Midas beat me to it, but Obama is getting out of town…Africa?
Didn’t Clinton go there during Lewinsky? Must be a good place to hide out.
He’s a Coward.
Guess I better get my fiances in order for the upcoming audit.
Jabez01 on May 20, 2013 at 5:24 PM
Nah, barky’s just going home. I hope he stays there.
VegasRick on May 20, 2013 at 5:25 PM
Wasn’t that a Steve Martin movie?
slickwillie2001 on May 20, 2013 at 5:25 PM
He hasn’t even *left* for Africa yet…
Midas on May 20, 2013 at 5:25 PM
No, seriously, Why does “Obama’s lawyer” still have her job? Ditto the Chief of Staff? Not every issue rises to the level that it needs to be briefed to the President. The most invasive organization in government targeting and punishing political opponents of the President while rewarding Presidential friendlies does.
And BTW, White House Counsel is the President’s lawyer when it comes to advising the President on all legal issues concerning the Presidency and the administration’s policies. She isn’t the rat-eared coward’s attorney. Which really makes things worse for her when it comes to professional ethics if she found out that the IRS was targeting specific groups for scrutiny and said nothing. Less so if she advised senior advisors and they buried the information. IMO, she probably did her job but was rebuffed by the administration who actually orchestrated the targeting through that meeting with the IRS union thugess. To have the partisan whore show up on the 1st for a private meeting and have the IRS agents get direction to target political opponents of the administration would be an extraordinary coincidence.
Happy Nomad on May 20, 2013 at 5:26 PM
The wink-wink-nudge-nudge, say-no-more Administration: Orders do not have to be explicitly stated to be completed understood and carried out with all haste
kooly on May 20, 2013 at 5:26 PM
Plausible deniability…
deuce on May 20, 2013 at 5:26 PM
I agree. The problem doesn’t come from merely being informed and advised, as Obama and Holder often suggest as an excuse for claiming ignorance of corruption on their watches. The problem only comes from an effort to obstruct.
For a couple of guys who should be familiar with the law, Obama and Holder so often mislead and misstate that one must conclude they are both pathetically ignorant, and liars.
novaculus on May 20, 2013 at 5:27 PM
Why bother the sock puppet? He’s busy shooting hoops.
They told Jarret.
mojo on May 20, 2013 at 5:28 PM
Dear Leader is hell-bent on alienating his lapdog media supporters and causing Democrats to question his authority (and sanity). Smells like someone is in way too deep in the Oval Office. I’m waiting for the other shoe to drop.
The leaks haven’t stopped and the hits keep on coming. Self-destruction is a bad thing. If this keeps up, Dems can kiss the midterms buh-bye. That is, if we still have a republic by then that hasn’t been replaced by martial law or a totalitarian regime. Drone strikes, anyone?
Philly on May 20, 2013 at 5:29 PM
A mini VayCay between Memorial Day and the month in Martha’s Vineyard among the faithful of his cult- rich white liberals.
When is the next time he and the girls are going to find time to shoot skeet? Which apparently is a passion of the family.
Happy Nomad on May 20, 2013 at 5:30 PM
barky and withholder don’t know anything.
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2013/05/16/eric-holder-just-doesnt-know-n1598543
VegasRick on May 20, 2013 at 5:30 PM
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