Oops: Colorado high-capacity mag ban might ban almost all mags
posted at 1:21 pm on March 15, 2013 by Mary Katharine Ham
The catch is in the phrase “readily convertible.”
Colorado’s now nationally famous “high capacity” magazine ban could end up being much more widespread than anticipated according to lawmakers. During a late night debate in the Colorado Senate on Friday, Senator Kevin Lundberg (D-Berthoud) put forth the thesis that because the proposed ban includes magazines with more than 15 rounds, AND those which are “readily convertible” even those manufactured for smaller numbers are most likely to fall under the ban. Most magazines are designed to be pulled apart and cleaned and are therefore readily converted to a capacity above the proposed law.
Allow Jon Caldara of Colorado’s Independence Institute to explain. Those of you who are Glock owners will no doubt recognize the mag extender that makes your mag illegal in Colorado, if this bill is signed by the governor today:
Gov. John Hickenlooper has said he backs mag capacity limits, and has calculated he’ll remain electorally safe if he signs one. Not if it does what this bill might. If he does sign it, stay tuned for the court cases. And, for those who are skeptical of “fearmongering” among Second Amendment supporters, please keep in mind that idiotic legislators in New York already accidentally banned every single mag law enforcement was carrying and Washington legislators tried to strip gun owners of their Fourth Amendment rights by allowing a sheriff to sweep their houses without a warrant. So, you know, we like to keep our eyes on the actual language of legislation, not just Feeling Good about Doing Something, as the liberal approach to legislating dictates.
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jrsrigmvr on March 15, 2013 at 1:25 PM
You wanted this, Colorado, so you deserve it good and hard.
Of course the twitchy dolts in my own state house is trying to do something even worse so yeah, we’re all being victimized here.
Bishop on March 15, 2013 at 1:26 PM
This is what happens when you have people who don’t know **** about guns voting on this kind of legislation.
Some of these people know what they’re doing (with ill-intent) and some them are just along for the ride because they’re breathtakingly ignorant about firearms.
What a clusterblank.
capitalist piglet on March 15, 2013 at 1:27 PM
Feature, not bug.
‘Oooo’, not ‘Ooops.’
Scott H on March 15, 2013 at 1:28 PM
Why wasn’t this precisely what they anticipated?
You mean, we banned more than you thought we would?
We’re so sorry. But, it was for the children, so we’re gonna keep the ban around, anyway. Again, we’re so sorry.
- Your Legislators.
OhEssYouCowboys on March 15, 2013 at 1:28 PM
Could some please explain what is the exactly definition of ‘High Capacity’
And could please explain - since there is No Difference between Arbitrarily defined ‘Assault Weapons’ and the arms in the 2A – how the ‘Assault Weapon’ Scam isn’t a serious infringement on that God-given and Constitutionally protected right?
Galt2009 on March 15, 2013 at 1:28 PM
A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the hands of 200 million law-abiding citizens.
Schadenfreude on March 15, 2013 at 1:29 PM
Coloradofornia.
Enjoy Bloombergs money you legislators.
PappyD61 on March 15, 2013 at 1:29 PM
This wasn’t an accident. Passing legislation with “unintended consequences” and saying “Whoops, well it’s the law now, and I guess we’re just stuck, tee-hee” is a typical liberal tactic.
Doomberg on March 15, 2013 at 1:29 PM
They’re most all on drugs.
Schadenfreude on March 15, 2013 at 1:29 PM
There’s no “Oops” about it. Carefully planned from the beginning. They just thought they could ram it through without anyone noticing.
WisRich on March 15, 2013 at 1:30 PM
I’m thinkin’ that there’s a capitalist piglet who doesn’t know that Outdoor America and other retailers have sold millions of imploding bullets.
:OP
OhEssYouCowboys on March 15, 2013 at 1:30 PM
Doesn’t matter. This law will be vacated by civil disobedience. I live in CO and I will not comply with this unconstitutional law.
They can go pound sand.
trapeze on March 15, 2013 at 1:33 PM
Trapeze, why do you hate the children, so much?
;O)
Sidebar – Are you a fan of the early ’70s band, Trapeze?
Just wonderin’ if that’s what your name refers to.
OhEssYouCowboys on March 15, 2013 at 1:35 PM
Probably intentional. Why ban one thing when you can ban everything?
Lenin didn’t just whack Czar Nicholas he could take out the whole family. That is how totalitarians think and legislate.
viking01 on March 15, 2013 at 1:35 PM
Lundberg is a Republican.
johnsl14 on March 15, 2013 at 1:37 PM
Clearly the capacity of the magazines are not the only things that are high in Colorado.
Happy Nomad on March 15, 2013 at 1:38 PM
I am a conservative gun owner and shooting enthusiast. Ergo, I hunt and eat children for fun and profit.
The name was selected at random from the dictionary. I have used it online for well over a decade.
trapeze on March 15, 2013 at 1:38 PM
How will you not comply? Do you sell firearms magazines?
cozmo on March 15, 2013 at 1:39 PM
I suspect this would happen nation-wide. I don’t intend to comply with stupid gun grabs either.
Oops. I lost my guns. I have no clue where they might be.
Pound sand.
freedomfirst on March 15, 2013 at 1:40 PM
What is and isn’t proposed to be banned in any of these bills is so random that I’ve got to think that public policy is being written by a bunch of idiots sitting around a catalog from some gun manufacturer and listing the weapons that look scary.
Happy Nomad on March 15, 2013 at 1:40 PM
…of course!
KOOLAID2 on March 15, 2013 at 1:41 PM
I would think a crowd of 100,000 angry screaming people demanding that these legislators be thrown out of office is what’s needed.
darwin on March 15, 2013 at 1:41 PM
Welcome to my H311 Bishop. Or as I call it, Maryland.
Gatsu on March 15, 2013 at 1:43 PM
Maybe as a gun owner, trapeze exercises his right to buy and sell his personal property without government involvement.
freedomfirst on March 15, 2013 at 1:43 PM
I will buy and possess whatever I want. The Democrats can suck it.
trapeze on March 15, 2013 at 1:44 PM
The ambiguity is an accomplishment in itself. Statists like to keep the subjects in a state of doubt as to whether they are violating the law or not. They’ve had the tax code doing this for them for years, so why not use all laws to terrorize the little people?
forest on March 15, 2013 at 1:45 PM
What if someone hires an illegal to keep some high-capacity magazines for him? Won’t those cancel out?
(The ol’ protected classes clause.)
viking01 on March 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM
A million gun owners, each with an AR slung peacefully over a shoulder, crowding every square inch of the DC mall and uttering not a word while staring towards the congress buildings would have even more effect.
Bishop on March 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM
Clearly, all guns and magazines should be confiscated and destroyed.
Then, we can all go about our business purchasing muskets, like the Framers intended.
I’m gonna invest in black powder and lead balls.
I’m gonna make me some money.
OhEssYouCowboys on March 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM
And…as 3D printing technology comes of age, I will manufacture whatever I want. While it may be true that more and more of the population is willing to surrender their rights and freedoms there are still plenty of us who will not.
trapeze on March 15, 2013 at 1:49 PM
Liberals will continue to shove their totalitarianism down our throats until they begin to fear the people and what the people might do to them. Which is exactly why they want to eventually ban guns outright.
They know what they have in store for us will cause uprisings, they want to be damn sure we’re disarmed before they make their final push.
darwin on March 15, 2013 at 1:49 PM
Could any of you trolls answer that question please?
I’ve asked it all over the place and so far it’s been bupkis across the board.
Galt2009 on March 15, 2013 at 1:49 PM
Sheer brilliance!
They wouldn’t dare serve a search warrant on an illegal, or otherwise enforce the law.
OhEssYouCowboys on March 15, 2013 at 1:49 PM
I thought the Colorado law only pertained to new magazines sold in the state.
Those who own them won’t be affected.
cozmo on March 15, 2013 at 1:50 PM
I’ve been keeping an eye on this bill and a couple important issues are 1. It becomes effective July 1, and magazines that are currently owned are grandfathered in, so get em while you can (if you can). 2. If you have any you intend to sell and your not a FFL dealer, do it now because there doesn’t appear to be any transfer mechanism for after the effective date. 3. What does “designed to be readily converted” mean?
Here’s the bill:
Dead Hand Control on March 15, 2013 at 1:51 PM
I agree with what you are saying, but could you please stop referring to those petty tyrant control freaks as “liberals”?
They are far-far removed from those who would champion the cause of Liberty.
Galt2009 on March 15, 2013 at 1:53 PM
Exactly! Not one of those stupid legislatures addressed the problems of people like Cho, Harris, Loughner, et al.
But they’ll stand there proudly proclaiming WE DID SOMETHING! And after the next tragedy involving a mentally ill person, they’ll stand their with their collective thumbs up their asses wondering “What happened?”
GarandFan on March 15, 2013 at 1:54 PM
Again, I will purchase and possess whatever I like. It’s my right. If I decide to acquire a new shooting platform and I need magazines for it there is nothing that these punks in Denver can do to stop me from getting them. A weekend trip to a free state is not a significant barrier.
trapeze on March 15, 2013 at 1:54 PM
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Nope.
listens2glenn on March 15, 2013 at 1:56 PM
So you will comply?
Pity.
trapeze on March 15, 2013 at 1:56 PM
As a resident of the Great State of Texas, I would like to welcome all gun and accessories manufactures, and may G-d bless you.
DDay on March 15, 2013 at 1:57 PM
I can try. I equate the term “liberal” with whatever else they’ve called themselves over the years.
darwin on March 15, 2013 at 1:58 PM
Don’t know why this surprises anyone.
This is the goal.
This is by design. The Democrats want this stuff. Of course they know what they are doing. Speculating otherwise is ridiculous.
The goal is the disarmament of the American people – period.
catmman on March 15, 2013 at 1:58 PM
Cabelas has jillions of Syntec mags available, racks and bins and hooks full of them, and only $24.99 each.
I wouldn’t pay $8 for one but Cabelas has them, all you can carry.
Bishop on March 15, 2013 at 1:58 PM
No, they wan’t proclaim any such thing. They will instead say that they need to do more. And that’s because, like taxing and spending, it’s never enough. They will always want more laws and more restrictions and infringements on right and freedoms. It’s in their DNA. They cannot help it. They cannot be reasoned with…only defeated. Fight or comply.
trapeze on March 15, 2013 at 2:00 PM
Don’t rub it in. It will only make the folks in those less free states madder.
Yes, but it doesn’t make you a law breaker. Unless you buy something that is actually banned.
cozmo on March 15, 2013 at 2:00 PM
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I like your thinking, but it won’t work. If an illegal alien is aiding and abetting common, law-abiding, American citizens with being armed, the Feds will eventually find out, and that illegal alien will be searched.
listens2glenn on March 15, 2013 at 2:02 PM
Statist fools.
Good thing my handgun of choice holds 19 rounds, and I took Joey Bite Me’s advice and bought a new tactical shotgun. Time for a new gun safe…
Polish Rifle on March 15, 2013 at 2:03 PM
Inane arguments trying to diminish the civil disobedience argument of Trapeze aside, he has a point that is valid beyond the borders of Colorado. The institutional ignorance of the lessons of prohibition is astonishing.
LooseCannon on March 15, 2013 at 2:04 PM
I think a few folks here made that observation when the law was first mentioned on HotAir. Unless you make the magazine so short it *can’t* be converted, it will fall under this ban. And, since that won’t work in most magazine wells, they will have to end up being machined out of a solid piece of metal from the base to whatever point only allows the number of rounds that will be legal. This will increase weight of the weapon and change its handling characteristics, as well as change the ease of doing a magazine swap.
Bug? I agree with others here that it is probably a feature.
GWB on March 15, 2013 at 2:04 PM
That’s gonna put a bit of a crimp in the tourist trade in Colorado, too. People with CCLs from states that are honored by Col. are not going to buy smaller-capacity mags just to pass through Col.; and leave their standard-capacity mags at home. In all probability, they’ll just decide to bypass Col. on the way to a sane state for vacation.
Solaratov on March 15, 2013 at 2:05 PM
I will buy whatever I want not because I am a lawbreaker but because I am a free man with God given rights. There are innumerable examples in history of immoral laws. Complying with an immoral law is not a choice I will take.
trapeze on March 15, 2013 at 2:06 PM
The reality is that we surround them. They do live in our communities, so perhaps they’ll get their wish one day.
Polish Rifle on March 15, 2013 at 2:07 PM
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Crocodile tears.
listens2glenn on March 15, 2013 at 2:07 PM
Recall ‘em
Spade on March 15, 2013 at 2:07 PM
Every year I travel to co with a group of my friends to snow board for a week, never again. Our money will go to Wy or Ut.
If you are a conservative that does business in these lefty anti American states shame on you.
traye on March 15, 2013 at 2:10 PM
This was not done on purpose. The woman who purposed the bill is a flaming moron. She was convicted of grand larceny on the 70′s, shop lifting in the 90′s and as recently as 2011 had over a grand in outstanding driving violations. Rhonda Fields is a freakin dunce and a life time criminal who should not be writing law. But of course she’s from Aurora and the people of Aurora vote based on skin tone and not intellect or character.
jawkneemusic on March 15, 2013 at 2:13 PM
More tourism for Wyoming and Utah I reckon.
forest on March 15, 2013 at 2:14 PM
I understand, they are synonymous with those other terms – Communist, Socialist, Fascist, Proggie, Authoritarian control freaks..
I just don’t think they deserve the positive connotations of that word.
Galt2009 on March 15, 2013 at 2:14 PM
I’ve lived in CO for decades. It’s where I operate my business. But when I retire I will return to the state I was born in and still own property in: Texas
trapeze on March 15, 2013 at 2:15 PM
This would be the only type of magazine not banned under this bill. One with a welded base plate.
http://www.cmctactical.com/product_44_detailed.htm
jawkneemusic on March 15, 2013 at 2:15 PM
In theory, you can keep what you already have. We’ll see how long it takes them to try to confiscate what’s already out there. I’ve got about 50 magazines that qualify as illegal under the new law – but all grandfathered – in theory, as the law is currently written.
The first impact of this bill will be Magpul packing up and leaving Colorado with their 600 employees (including subcontractors) and $85 Million in annual revenue; to be followed by several other gun industry companies who have said they will also leave. That’s something the state will definitely feel.
The other thing happening – my County Sheriff (Terry Maketa, El Paso County, CO) has already publicly stated he WILL NOT enforce that law. He will assume that ALL magazines were bought prior to the start date of the law, and are therefore legal to own, because there is no way to prove otherwise. He and the entire Colorado Sheriff’s association have already stated that they are against this and the law is not legally enforceable.
dentarthurdent on March 15, 2013 at 2:18 PM
Now that’s just silly. A 40mm grenade launcher? A bazooka like Feinstein is afraid people will buy? M-16 trigger parts, a drop in auto sear and a pre-ban lower receiver for an AR-15? Oh wait, that last is legal…if the drop-in auto sear was made before a specified year.
It is one thing to own a product that will no longer be sold to the little people of your state. Another thing to claim civil disobedience when you aren’t actually breaking any law.
cozmo on March 15, 2013 at 2:22 PM
Most of these Demtards are from the Denver-Boulder area – already heavily, probably irreversibly, Kalifornicated.
The Dem head of the state senate is a former cop from the Colorado Springs area – David Morse. There is already an effort underway collecting signatures for a recall on him. The problem with that, and the reason he even got elected to begin with, is his district covers the poor south side of the city and the Old Colorado City and Manitou Springs areas which are very “hippie / druggie” populated. The rest of the Colorado Springs area is hardcore Republican.
dentarthurdent on March 15, 2013 at 2:24 PM
You need to tell the Colorado Tourism Department this.
It’s kinda like the Doomsday Machine, in Dr. Strangelove:
The whole point of the Doomsday Machine is lost … if you keep it a secret! Why didn’t you tell the world, eh?
- Dr. Strangelove
The Doomsday Machine @3:47
OhEssYouCowboys on March 15, 2013 at 2:24 PM
Good move. Agree with OhEss – please let the Colorado tourism people know you’re going elsewhere and why.
dentarthurdent on March 15, 2013 at 2:27 PM
The leftist approach to legislation in America dictates Feeling Good about Doing Something Un-Constitutional and Intellectually Offensive. They are more than happy with all their bills and laws. Anything that brings society that much closer to destruction is a good thing to a lefty.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 15, 2013 at 2:32 PM
Morse only won by 300+ votes. While the libertarian stole 1,000+ from the republican. This was another case in which the Ron Paultards ruined an election for the republican.
jawkneemusic on March 15, 2013 at 2:36 PM
My letter to Hick:
Gov. Hickenlooper,
I am writing to urge you to veto HB13-1224 on the grounds that the language of the bill is written in such a way that creates confusion and can result in ordinary citizens being prosecuted notwithstanding their best efforts to comply with the law.
The bill calls for a ban on magazines which are “designed to be readily converted to accept” more than 15 rounds. From a legal standpoint there are several questions that arise: What does “readily converted” mean? How does one know whether a magazine has been designed to be converted? The end user can’t be expected to know the intent of the manufacturer in the design of an otherwise legal magazine. In exercising their Second Amendment rights, an individual should be able to tell at a glance whether or not a magazine is compliant or not
Allow me to provide a concrete example. Let’s say that the owner of a Smith and Wesson M&P 9mm firearm, which generally accepts a 17 round magazine, intends to purchase a new, compliant magazine. That person could purchase a 15 round magazine from S&W, however he or she would have no way of knowing whether this item will result in their prosecution because it’s impossible to know whether that item was “designed to be readily converted.” Congress has left this vital qualification undefined.
Citizens making a good faith effort to comply with the law should not be subjected to this level of uncertainty. I urge you to veto the bill so that honest and law abiding individuals are not put at risk of incarceration as a result of imprecise language in the current form of the bill.
Thank you,
Dead Hand Control on March 15, 2013 at 2:41 PM
At the rate they are headed with this I better start saving the horns off my cows. They might come in handy.
moo on March 15, 2013 at 2:44 PM
This crap bill also makes it illegal to transfer your legal standard capacity magazines (30 round AR-15, 20 or 25 round M1A) to your kin upon your death. How they planning on enforcing that?
As the idiot who drew up the bill (Rhonda Fields, progressive)said the other day, these magazines only have a place on the field of war. And, seeing that these control freaks are infringing on my natural rights, they have in effect declared war on me, therefore making Colorado a field of war, and thus demanding that I require said magazines.
If only the Colorado GOP was in the least bit an effective organization, the next election in 2014 on the state level would be a bloodbath for the democrat party, but as the last two elections have shown, the Colorado GOP is powerless against the entrenched out of state interests that have turned this state blue.
djtnt on March 15, 2013 at 2:46 PM
I’m not a troll, but I will say that the Colorado law specified how many rounds made it a “high capacity” magazine – I think it was 15. (Which is a HUGE magazine by liberal standards!)
Want to set a date, Bishop?* Though mine won’t be an AR, I’m pretty certain I have 30 round magazines.
* not set up a date! you’ll have to talk to Jetboy ’bout that.
GWB on March 15, 2013 at 2:46 PM
OK, I’ve beat this to death, but it seems more prescient every day:
“There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt.”
Dr. Ferris, from Rand’s “Atlas Shrugged”
iurockhead on March 15, 2013 at 2:46 PM
I have noticed that non of these bans include Tar and Feathers.
meci on March 15, 2013 at 2:53 PM
Colbyjack on March 15, 2013 at 2:54 PM
I thought I was speaking with a serious person. My mistake.
trapeze on March 15, 2013 at 2:57 PM
So, your intention is to have people think you are a bad boy when you really ain’t?
cozmo on March 15, 2013 at 3:02 PM
I think most of the county sheriffs in Colorado have stated that this particular law is unenforceable.
First of all, hi-cap magazines that are already in the hands of owners are exempt. Second, because of that pesky Commerce Clause in the US Constitution, this soon to be law cannot prevent a Colorado citizen from crossing their favorite state line and buying a dozen or three of the hi-cap magazines of their choice and taking them home.
These ‘gun-control’ bills are all political fluff. None of them would have had any detrimental affect whatsoever on Sandy Hook, or Aurora or Tuscon, or Columbine.
WestTexasBirdDog on March 15, 2013 at 3:03 PM
Thank for at least responding – I’ve asked these questions all over the web and no one can provide a definitive answer – because there is none.
Thing is, that number is arbitrarily set – same as the features of so-called ‘Assault Rifles’ – definitions that can easily be changed to eviscerate the right of self-defense.
Galt2009 on March 15, 2013 at 3:07 PM
It is completely enforceable, for its intended purpose.
Only the ignorant think this is a public safety issue. Its purpose is to punish non-liberals and businesses liberals do not approve of.
The citizens of Colorado will still be able to own the magazines. They just won’t be able to give that money to their fellow Coloradans.
cozmo on March 15, 2013 at 3:13 PM
If anyone seriously believes this was unintended, you haven’t paid attention to left-wing tactics.
They knew exactly what they were doing.
Idfaciam on March 15, 2013 at 3:23 PM
I’m sure every criminal will seriously study this new law and anticipate counting the rounds before they blast the living hell out of some lawful jerk.
mixplix on March 15, 2013 at 3:35 PM
guess i’ll only be taking skiing trips to New Mexico now
burserker on March 15, 2013 at 3:36 PM
I often wondered what motivated the Italians to kill Mussolini and hang him upside down in public view. I’m getting a pretty good idea why now.
44Magnum on March 15, 2013 at 3:41 PM
So, as a resident of a Free State, with a CCW permit, who has a brother living in Colorado…
I own my 16-round XD-9 magazine now, before the law goes into effect. Is my CCW magazine grandfathered in under this law if I go visit my brother? Or does that only apply to CO residents?
ksbsnowowl on March 15, 2013 at 3:44 PM
If Americans doesn’t wake up now you are gonna see an America without a Constitution. The lawmakers in Colorado are wolves stalking the hen house. One right after another slowly taken away.
karlinsync on March 15, 2013 at 3:52 PM
Unfortunately, this whole gun control move has become a contest. A contest to see who can pass the most stringent law and the 2nd amendment be damned. You see, these legislators are nothing but sheep and they will follow each other right off a cliff without even a second’s thought. We saw that in the Affordable Health Care Act when they didn’t even read the bill let alone try to comprehend what they were doing. This whole thing is a joke and the American people are the brunt of that joke.
Pardonme on March 15, 2013 at 4:03 PM
Ya that too. Which is why I think this recall effort could have a pretty good shot at succeeding.
dentarthurdent on March 15, 2013 at 5:03 PM
Yes you should be legal. All of the county sheriffs in Colorado are against this law, and some have already said they will not enforce it. The bill/law does actually say that the burden of proof that your magazine is illegal falls on the government. If you say you’ve had for years, THEY have to prove otherwise.
dentarthurdent on March 15, 2013 at 5:04 PM
In terms of killing sales of these magazines within Colorado, which I think is what you’re saying, yes it will happen.
In terms of being able to prove someone has possession of an illegal magazine (bought after the implementation date) – no it’s not enforceable, and mny sheriffs have stated that much. The burden of proof is on the state.
dentarthurdent on March 15, 2013 at 5:09 PM
Thanks to Magpul’s Boulder Airlift, I just got home to find 10 new 30 round magazines on my doorstep – yay.
dentarthurdent on March 15, 2013 at 5:12 PM
Are there NRA ads running in California highlighting the irony of a lifetime criminal who probably wouldn’t qualify for a concealed carry permit, is passing legislation targeting the rights of law abiding citizens?
Daemonocracy on March 15, 2013 at 5:13 PM
Freudian slip.
Daemonocracy on March 15, 2013 at 5:14 PM
:)
Still, I’ll probably bring a copy of my receipt to prove it… just in case.
ksbsnowowl on March 15, 2013 at 5:22 PM
Name the date and time, my friend.
Midas on March 15, 2013 at 5:39 PM
… oh, and after said silent stare, at a pre-appointed time, all of them doing their best “show me your war face” impression from ‘Full Metal Jacket’ would be effective, too.
Midas on March 15, 2013 at 5:40 PM
The various gun control bills in the Colorado legislature were most likely not written by the Democrats who introduced them.
More likely, they were written by Michael Bloomberg’s MAIG staff. And for them, the incoherence and ambiguity may be either incompetence or purposeful. You can’t tell with Nurse Bloomberg because he’s so far out in space.
Sen. Schumer introduced a bill in the Senate for the deceptively named “Universal Background Checks” with the identical language as the Colorado bill.
SPQR on March 15, 2013 at 5:44 PM
This.
+1,000,000
Joe Mama on March 15, 2013 at 7:12 PM
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