Obama to Israeli TV: Iran’s a “year or so” away from having a bomb
posted at 7:28 pm on March 14, 2013 by Allahpundit
The AP headlines this story, “Obama says Iran a year away from nuclear weapon.” Read the excerpt below. Is that what he’s saying, or is he saying that it would take them a year to build one if/when they get eventually cracking full-bore on weaponization? Prediction: When 2013 comes and goes without any resolution, diplomatic or military, to Iran’s bomb program, Obama will adopt the latter interpretation of what he said here as proof that he never meant to set a deadline.
Besides, this is a red herring. Netanyahu’s position has always been that, for obvious reasons, the red line can’t be the day that Iran finally has a working bomb. The true red line is when Iran attains “breakout capacity,” i.e. a stockpile of highly-enriched uranium around which a bomb could be built quickly if need be.
“Right now, we think it would take over a year or so for Iran to actually develop a nuclear weapon, but obviously we don’t want to cut it too close,” he said. “So when I’m consulting with Bibi (Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu) as I have over the last several years on this issue, my message to him will be the same as before: ‘If we can resolve it diplomatically that is a more lasting solution. But if not I continue to keep all options on the table.’”…
“What I have also said is that there is a window, not an infinite period of time, but a window of time where we can resolve this diplomatically and it is in all of our interests” to do this, he said. “They (Iran) are not yet at the point, I think, where they have made a fundamental decision to get right with the international community … I do think they are recognizing that there is a severe cost to continue on the path they are on and that there is another door open.”
Just for fun, I went digging through our archives for various expert assessments in the past about how soon it might be before Iran has a bomb. The earliest I found is this Telegraph piece from 2006 citing a think tank who thought an Iranian bomb was “inevitable” (which is likely true) without setting a timeline. A year later, the UN’s nuclear agency concluded that Iran could have a bomb in a year given their installation of 3,000 uranium centrifuges. Another UN report issued a year after that claimed that Iran already had enough uranium to make a bomb but that it hadn’t been enriched to weapons-grade yet. Then, in late 2009, Ehud Barak reportedly told Israeli media that Iran would have the technical capacity to build a bomb within weeks and would likely have a device by 2011.
Skip ahead to August 2012 and Haaretz reported, again via Barak, that the new U.S. National Intelligence Estimate on Iran’s bomb progress showed that Tehran was closer than thought. A few weeks later, a think tank alleged that Iran was two to four months away from having the fissile core needed for a warhead (although it would be many months after that before they could build the warhead itself). But then something changed: Barak said Iran had pulled back from the brink of weaponization by using some of its uranium for civilian purposes. A new Israeli intelligence estimate said they wouldn’t have a bomb until 2015 at the earliest. Iran itself announced just last month that it was converting some uranium to reactor fuel, which shrank their potential bomb supply. None of which is to suggest that any of these assessments were necessarily wrong when given. There’s a lot in play here — sabotage efforts by the U.S. and Israel to slow the program down (e.g. Stuxnet), the debilitating effect of sanctions on Iran’s access to nuke materials, Tehran’s fitful, sporadic interest in negotiations, and of course changing strategic calculations in the post-Arab Spring Middle East. The point is, either we’ve been BS-ed on the timeline all along, which I doubt, or it’s hard to predict from one year to the next just how much progress Iran will have made 12 months later. Which O is counting on, of course. He’d never let himself get pinned down on a deadline to scramble the jets the way it sounds in the excerpt.
Speaking of changing strategies, read this juicy WaPo piece from a few days ago about the jihadist bromance between Iran and Al Qaeda falling apart as they end up on opposite sides of the sectarian black hole in Syria. Iran’s evidently going all in on behalf of Assad: They’re stepping up their arms supply to Damascus and, per Israel’s chief of military intelligence, they now have 50,000 men — no typo — in Syria, with eventual expansion to 100,000 possible. One would think that would make them more eager to build a bomb ASAP. The bomb is their insurance policy that, even if things go badly in Syria, none of their enemies will dare try to destabilize the regime at home. But maybe it’s not as simple as that. Maybe, between the economic squeeze from sanctions and their massive military investment in the Alawites in Syria, they just don’t have the money at the moment to keep the nuclear program rolling at full speed. Priorities.
Update: I’ve been meaning to post this for a few days but it slipped my mind. Have a look at what Damascus looks like after two years of war. The capital was insulated from the fighting for a good long time after the rebellion broke out. Not anymore.
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Bish?
Jackalope on May 22, 2013 at 10:44 PM
First time for everything :)
Jackalope on May 22, 2013 at 10:45 PM
By the time socialist governments throw the net over their citizens, it is almost always already too late to escape.
Under Obama, the net is getting tighter. The IRS spied on average citizens who make up the nation’s Tea Party groups, among others identified as ‘Enemies of the State’. The same IRS hired by Obama to administer ObamaCare.
Yesterday when Tea Party groups protested in cross-country demonstrations, armed Dept. of Homeland Security agents were out in full force.
Barack Obama’s ‘Iron Curtain’ is descending on America.
VorDaj on May 22, 2013 at 10:46 PM
Fore!
bazil9 on May 22, 2013 at 10:47 PM
Obama fundamentally transforms America into a Fascist State (a brief primer)
There was a time when the IRS acted against Al Capone. Now, under Obama, the IRS acts like Al Capone.
There was a time when the DOJ fought crime syndicates. Now, under Obama, the DOJ is a crime syndicate.
There was a time when the FBI investigated crime syndicates. Now, under Obama, the FBI investigates for a crime syndicate.
There was a time when the ATF stopped Gun Running Gangs. Now, under Obama, the ATF is a Gun Running Gang.
There was a time when the TSA protected women’s privacy at airports. Now, under Obama, the TSA inspects women’s privates at airports.
There was a time when the DOD left no man behind. Now, under Obama, every man has to watch his own behind (double meaning applies).
There was a time when people in India dreamed of coming to America to get Health Care. Soon now, under Obama, people in America will dream of going to India to get Health Care.
VorDaj on May 22, 2013 at 10:49 PM
brutal QOTD
ted c on May 22, 2013 at 10:51 PM
Scrumpy doodles are you OK? Remember we are your friends. You can count on us.
SparkPlug on May 22, 2013 at 10:51 PM
Hi B9.
SparkPlug on May 22, 2013 at 10:51 PM
Jackalope, congrats!
B9, LOL!
INC on May 22, 2013 at 10:51 PM
Nazi Germany didn’t have an independent press and neither does Obama’s America.
VorDaj on May 22, 2013 at 10:52 PM
Hello my lil plum. xo
bazil9 on May 22, 2013 at 10:53 PM
Awww. Poor James Rosen… Poor Baby.. So you got roughed up a little huh? Thats what you get for pretending to be a main stream “journalist” instead of what you truly are which is a RNC /Tea party apologist.
HotAirLib on May 22, 2013 at 10:53 PM
I totally agree with you AP. Well said.
this is the most zealous administration in modern times when it comes to the pursuit of leakers.
SparkPlug on May 22, 2013 at 10:53 PM
Nice pic.
See no evil and hear no evil. Where is speak no evil? Funny thing is,those two fukheads have that covered as well.
arnold ziffel on May 22, 2013 at 10:53 PM
Good evening Raj Lagassee.
bazil9 on May 22, 2013 at 10:54 PM
Axe is Raj. hahaha.
SparkPlug on May 22, 2013 at 10:54 PM
Inc
;)
bazil9 on May 22, 2013 at 10:54 PM
Tis, of course, much better to be a jackalope than a jackanape like Obama and his accomplices.
VorDaj on May 22, 2013 at 10:55 PM
The State Run Media always thought they would be exempt from the White House facism. One who suffers from NPD loves no one but himself.
d1carter on May 22, 2013 at 10:55 PM
Axe is Raj. hahaha.
SparkPlug on May 22, 2013 at 10:54 PM
bazil9 on May 22, 2013 at 10:56 PM
Wow. This is quite a revelation. AP is a Latino immigrant now living in America. Interesting.
SparkPlug on May 22, 2013 at 10:57 PM
Shouldn’t you be goose stepping at some rally for Herr Obama? Being here would seem like a poor substitute.
VorDaj on May 22, 2013 at 10:57 PM
One day soon it will be Bill Keller’s phones we’re reading about. The courage of his convictions (if he has any) will disappear on that day.
Curtiss on May 22, 2013 at 10:58 PM
I thought he lived in New York City.
VorDaj on May 22, 2013 at 10:58 PM
yeah, it is getting a little chilly out their if you are journo. You remember the guy in St Louis that said the IRS hammered him after an Obama interview??? Well, fired today from KMOV
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/05/reporter-larry-connors-is-fired-was-targeted-by-obama-irs/
now most repeaters would not dream of crossing their guy…I mean, he’s it for them. But for the 10 percent who are actually independent minded, careful out there…it is getting cold
if you read his story, he was on a payment plan with the IRS due to back taxes owed…after interview…boom…they quit cooperating
r keller on May 22, 2013 at 10:58 PM
No member of the State Run Media can ever forget they are on his team…never cross the line or bad things will happen to you.
d1carter on May 22, 2013 at 10:59 PM
Rick Sanchez…? I thought a hurricane got him.
d1carter on May 22, 2013 at 11:00 PM
Me too. But this is a bombshell. Never before has he been so candid about his personal history. Its fascinating. Maybe he will tell us more tomorrow on QOTD.
SparkPlug on May 22, 2013 at 11:01 PM
Maybe we should call him Allah Pundito since he is latin.
SparkPlug on May 22, 2013 at 11:02 PM
The Godfather
thatsafactjack on May 22, 2013 at 11:04 PM
This is written by Craig Shirley, who has authored a couple of biographies on Reagan.
Why the IRS Went After the Tea Party Instead of Establishment Republicans
It’s a very enjoyable piece. Most of it is about the GOP establishment trying to co-opt outrage over the IRS targeting the Tea Party for their own gain.
And you thought you were the first person to tell the RNC, “Not one thin dime!” :)
That’s fascinating, and I haven’t seen it mentioned elsewhere. “If you’re not catching flak, you’re not over the target.” Obama obviously felt no threat from the good old RNC. :)
INC on May 22, 2013 at 11:04 PM
When this is all over maybe those two can do a black version of Dumb and Dumber.
slickwillie2001 on May 22, 2013 at 11:04 PM
&^%#^&&*$ raj
Axe on May 22, 2013 at 11:05 PM
Is my side kick Fire marshalette OK?
How are you?
SparkPlug on May 22, 2013 at 11:05 PM
The two men in that picture – shouldn’t those criminally insane mugs be on a wanted poster?
VorDaj on May 22, 2013 at 11:06 PM
What the hell is wrong with four in ten Americans?
Happy Nomad on May 22, 2013 at 11:06 PM
Making a few casts?
INC on May 22, 2013 at 11:06 PM
Ah-greed! Brutal like from Canada Free Press, by the way, Obama’s Iron Curtain…wow.
Jackalope on May 22, 2013 at 11:07 PM
I’m sorry, Spark. I haven’t heard from her. I’m hoping, just as you are, that she is well. :(
I am fine, Spark. Thanks for asking. I hope you’re well, too. :)
thatsafactjack on May 22, 2013 at 11:07 PM
You must not work with the public.
bazil9 on May 22, 2013 at 11:07 PM
VorDaj on May 22, 2013 at 11:08 PM
You must be really sweating the way Obama is alienating his biggest fan base with the larges megaphone. Just keep telling yourself how smart he is, it will make it all better.
Cindy Munford on May 22, 2013 at 11:08 PM
The journalism community that’s supporting Rosen, including reporters from The New Yorker, The New York Times, and The Huffington Post…what are they pretending to be?
Answer like a good little Nazi, ok?
joejm65 on May 22, 2013 at 11:09 PM
Scarface
thatsafactjack on May 22, 2013 at 11:09 PM
VorDaj on May 22, 2013 at 11:09 PM
HAL’s already pricing brown shirts and thinking of ways to prove his loyalty. It’s a very small step for a very small man.
thatsafactjack on May 22, 2013 at 11:11 PM
By grabbing a ruler, I was able to discern a theme from only two points. :)
Just kidding. That’s not a ruler.
Axe on May 22, 2013 at 11:11 PM
HAL you’re a cartoon.
CW on May 22, 2013 at 11:12 PM
Good evening, Axefellow. I trust you’re well.:)
thatsafactjack on May 22, 2013 at 11:12 PM
I know approximately 1/3 of the country can look in two directions at once.
Axe on May 22, 2013 at 11:12 PM
Tired. :) You recharging?
Axe on May 22, 2013 at 11:13 PM
Folks let me introduce you to Exhibit A in douchebags. When Valarie Plame (whose association with the CIA was on her Facebook page) was “outed” as an agent, this kind of swine was screaming bloody murder.
A reporter that is doing his job. Not that big a deal if he doesn’t work for MSDNC. And extending “roughed up” to having the government call you a co-conspirator to get a warrant and including your parents as possible accessories.
HAL truly has become unhinged after all these scandals have become the main news stories.
Happy Nomad on May 22, 2013 at 11:14 PM
HAL says hello to his little friend each morning.
h/t J
bazil9 on May 22, 2013 at 11:14 PM
Yep. He skewered the RNC.
INC on May 22, 2013 at 11:15 PM
The two men in that picture – shouldn’t those criminally insane mugs be on a wanted poster?
VorDaj on May 22, 2013 at 11:06 PM
VorJay:Why yes,yes they should be!:)
canopfor on May 22, 2013 at 11:18 PM
Oh! I do. And it constantly amazes me the level of ignorance even among supposedly smart people.
Happy Nomad on May 22, 2013 at 11:19 PM
Scrumpy left this note earlier today. This is her emphasis:
So keep her in your prayers.
INC on May 22, 2013 at 11:20 PM
Seriously? I mean, honestly, HAL, I’m starting to think you are just trying to channel a true lib, you’re starting to sound like a bad parody. So fess up, are you really a libertarian trying to pull some chains? You need to get more real, you’re becoming a joke either way.
iurockhead on May 22, 2013 at 11:21 PM
Crimestory (Runaway)
Oh, yeah!
thatsafactjack on May 22, 2013 at 11:22 PM
Thanks for the heads up, INC. I will.
iurockhead on May 22, 2013 at 11:22 PM
Working on it, my friend. :)
thatsafactjack on May 22, 2013 at 11:22 PM
I’d hate to be HAL’s neighbor who irritates him because of the way the common area is kept in their homeless shelter. Easy pickings for denouncement to the government when the full force of transformational government takes effect.
Happy Nomad on May 22, 2013 at 11:25 PM
I am surprised it isn’t 5 out of 10. :) Half the people I meet are challenged..to say it nicely.
Well..”smart” can be defined many ways.
Many lack critical thinking and social skills..logic and common sense.
I know many “smart” people that are stupid. If that makes sense.
bazil9 on May 22, 2013 at 11:26 PM
Nah, it’s all good. Sure funny how Romney, McConell and Boehner didn’t take this stuff very seriously. And now we have McCain throwin elbows with Carney for head fluffer.
arnold ziffel on May 22, 2013 at 11:27 PM
Crap,thats
VorDaj,not VorJay,
sorry,for that BeSmirchment:)
canopfor on May 22, 2013 at 11:27 PM
So keep her in your prayers.
INC on May 22, 2013 at 11:20 PM
Done. Wow. TY.
I know 1st hand..when you have your own issues to deal with..don’t feel well..
A daily diet of negative shite doesn’t help.
Hopefully, a needed break. Concentrate on herself and something more uplifting for a while.
bazil9 on May 22, 2013 at 11:27 PM
Since the thread isn’t exactly burning up:
. . . Sketchbook now sporting a series of fixed pages for this-and-that. You can reach them from the icons in the upper right-hand corner. There is nothing there but skeletons at the moment, but I’ll be moving everything from here to there for awhile, and when they are filled out, they should have some minimal utility. Anyway, new icons should be appearing and new content appearing forthwith, in a series of updates.
I know what you are thinking. Who’s arrogant enough to think you’d want to go see some crappy, empty pages? Aha! –But I knew you wouldn’t want to go see them, see, so no arrogance was involved.
Axe on May 22, 2013 at 11:28 PM
Most people who believe themselves to be smart, aren’t.
*uptwinkles*
Axe on May 22, 2013 at 11:29 PM
Every Breath You Take – Police
thatsafactjack on May 22, 2013 at 11:30 PM
Speaking of piles of miscellaneous stuff, don’t miss this thing if you’ve never seen it.
Axe on May 22, 2013 at 11:32 PM
A fave of mine.
bazil9 on May 22, 2013 at 11:33 PM
Maan, I was so hoping you got caught in a crossfire or jacked in your blubber buggy while navigating home with your Ripple stash the other night. Oh well tomorrow is another day.
arnold ziffel on May 22, 2013 at 11:33 PM
You said that very well.
My work group has two types of workers. There are those of us that are older. And others that are in their 20s and early 30s. Apparently somewhere along the line critical thinking went out of style because these idiots are clueless. Not all but mosttly. And nothing pisses me off more than being lectured by a 24-year-old that the GOP is on a witchhunt.
On the positive side, I guess, is that we can still talk politics at work.
Happy Nomad on May 22, 2013 at 11:34 PM
God Bless each and every one of you!
Special thanks to Axe, Bmore, Jackie, Schad, Sparky, williamg, Fred, B9, ALT, Cozmo, canopfor, Sophie, Arnie, EG, angrymike and Marshfox along with Lila, INC Fallon and wolfsdad… :-)
God Bless you all, you have all been amazing, I have learned so much from each of you!!
See you on the flip side…
Stay Strong my friends and fight the good fight!!
Scrumpy on May 22, 2013 at 10:29 AM
So keep her in your prayers.
INC on May 22, 2013 at 11:20 PM
INC:
Thank-you for posting,wow,I hope Scrump is okay,
and,
Scrumpy,you too stay strong,and I hope,it all works
out for you,
from CANADA,with Love:)
canopfor on May 22, 2013 at 11:34 PM
Too cool, Axefellow. Quite like touring the museum before the collection is in place. It will be even more interesting to see what eventually lives in those spaces. Besides, it invokes our onboard creativity to imagine them filled. :)
thatsafactjack on May 22, 2013 at 11:34 PM
Photo Essay: No, They’re Not OK In OK
Resist We Much on May 22, 2013 at 11:34 PM
You never told me you liked them nice fellas. Me too, little sis.
arnold ziffel on May 22, 2013 at 11:36 PM
‘Toons of the Day: The Buck Stops Over There
Resist We Much on May 22, 2013 at 11:36 PM
bazil9 on May 22, 2013 at 11:36 PM
lol –Wow. Talk about seeing the best in something. :)
Thanks, graceful Jackie.
Axe on May 22, 2013 at 11:37 PM
Pat Caddell called the American press “treasonous.”
R.I.P, Andrew Breitbart.
John the Libertarian on May 22, 2013 at 11:38 PM
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Wow… You are a sad type of human aren’t you…
But I really do hope that you get to live in your fantasied Dictatorship/Totalitarian country… Just not here. The tide is turning and Obama’s being neutered right before your soon to be cryin eyes so… sleep tight.
RalphyBoy on May 22, 2013 at 11:38 PM
:) I call them like I see them.
thatsafactjack on May 22, 2013 at 11:39 PM
At re-education camp would you be my pal? You are great. Maybe when I got the scurvy you could sneak me an orange.
arnold ziffel on May 22, 2013 at 11:40 PM
Wind Of Change – Scorpions
thatsafactjack on May 22, 2013 at 11:40 PM
But of course Bro..Cali Punk? What!?
Sweet.
I like a lot of stuff..doesnt always go over well here. :)
I love me some Rancid too.
Green Day early stuff before they sold out.
I will dig up an old fave I saw many times…let me go search.
bazil9 on May 22, 2013 at 11:41 PM
Since the thread isn’t exactly burning up:
Axe on May 22, 2013 at 11:28 PM
Axe:Speaking of hot:)
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CME AND RADIATION STORM:
A solar radiation storm is in progress on May 22nd following an M5-class explosion on the sun’s western limb. The source of the flare, which peaked at 1332 UT, was departing sunspot AR1745. SOHO coronagraphs observed a magnificent CME emerging from the blast site:
Video of ExPlodey:
Play the movie again. The speckles dancing across the image are caused by high-energy solar protons striking the CCD camera in SOHO’s coronagraph. Those protons were guided toward Earth by magnetic field lines that connect our planet to the blast site. The rain of protons is what forecasters mean by a “radiation storm.” This storm ranks S2 on NOAA storm scales.
Update (May 22 @ 5:30 PDT): Although the explosion was not squarely Earth-directed, the CME will likely be geoeffective. The expanding cloud appears set to deliver a glancing blow to Earth’s magnetic field on May 24th around 1200 UT. According to NOAA forecast models, the impact will more than double the solar wind plasma density around Earth and boost the solar wind speed to ~600 km/s. High-latitude sky watchers should be alert for auroras. Aurora alerts: text, voice.
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http://www.spaceweather.com/
canopfor on May 22, 2013 at 11:41 PM
That last picture in RWM’s essay is astonishing. Way more “perspective” than probably makes for a comfortable life.
http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2013/05/photo-essay-no-theyre-not-ok-in-ok.html
Axe on May 22, 2013 at 11:42 PM
Although tonight’s QOTDs are related to the Obama Scandalpalooza, I’m kinda surprised AP (especially) missed noting this quote:
Pope responding to atheist:
‘But I don’t believe, Father, I am an atheist!’
“Do good: we will meet one another there.”
whatcat on May 22, 2013 at 11:42 PM
Wind of Change
Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 11:42 PM
Will do!
22044 on May 22, 2013 at 11:43 PM
Good evening, Canopfor. :) I love aurora’s. Wish I was further north. Thanks. :)
thatsafactjack on May 22, 2013 at 11:43 PM
Absolutely
… and thanks for posting that; was somewhat confused by some of the conversation going on regarding her.
AZfederalist on May 22, 2013 at 11:45 PM
Take care Chrissy…..
KCB on May 22, 2013 at 11:46 PM
Oklahoma is somber and sorrowing. Donations from fellow Oklahoman’s continue to pour in to aid those suffering.
thatsafactjack on May 22, 2013 at 11:47 PM
Dam Collapse
Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 11:47 PM
In The Air Tonight – Collins
thatsafactjack on May 22, 2013 at 11:48 PM
7 Seconds…best band.
I saw them in small venues in HS and college.
Best times ever.
99 Red Balloons cover
Walk together
Rock Together
bazil9 on May 22, 2013 at 11:49 PM
Green Day early stuff before they sold out.
I will dig up an old fave I saw many times…let me go search.
bazil9 on May 22, 2013 at 11:41 PM
bazil9:PunkaRoo Music eh:)
London calling-The clash
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vHvzybkqfo
canopfor on May 22, 2013 at 11:49 PM
Crime and Punishment
Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 11:50 PM
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