Quotes of the day

posted at 10:01 pm on March 13, 2013 by Allahpundit

Bergoglio, 76, reportedly got the second-most votes after Joseph Ratzinger in the 2005 papal election, and he has long specialized in the kind of pastoral work that some say is an essential skill for the next pope. In a lifetime of teaching and leading priests in Latin America, which has the largest share of the world’s Catholics, Bergoglio has shown a keen political sensibility as well as the kind of self-effacing humility that fellow cardinals value highly, says his official biographer, Sergio Rubin.

Bergoglio would likely encourage the church’s 400,000 priests to hit the streets to capture more souls, Rubin said in an Associated Press interview. He is also most comfortable taking a low profile, and his personal style is the antithesis of Vatican splendor. “It’s a very curious thing: When bishops meet, he always wants to sit in the back rows. This sense of humility is very well seen in Rome,” Rubin said…

“Jesus teaches us another way: Go out. Go out and share your testimony, go out and interact with your brothers, go out and share, go out and ask. Become the Word in body as well as spirit,” Bergoglio said.

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The new pontiff is considered a straight shooter who calls things as he sees them, and a follower of the church’s most conservative wing…

Bergogolio’s selection of the name of Pope Francis is “the most stunning” choice and “precedent shattering,” Allen said. “The new pope is sending a signal that this will not be business as usual.”

The name symbolizes “poverty, humility, simplicity and rebuilding the Catholic Church,” Allen said.

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Tears and cheers erupted across Latin American on Wednesday as an Argentine cardinal became the first pope from the hemisphere, and many expressed hope that he help bring the church closer to the poverty-wracked region that is home to more Catholics than any other…

“It’s a huge gift for all of Latin America. We waited 20 centuries. It was worth the wait,” said Jose Antonio Cruz, a Franciscan friar at the church of St. Francis of Assisi in the colonial Old San Juan district in Puerto Rico…

Latin America has some of the world’s sharpest divides between rich and poor and Marvin Cruz, a Catholic at the Parish of the Miraculous in the Honduran capital of Tegucigalpa, said the pope’s “main challenge will be the fight against economic inequality.”

“His training as a Jesuit will allow him to take it head on,” Cruz said.

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Pope Francis is unique not just for being the first Latin American pope. He’s also the first Jesuit pope, possibly signaling a renewed emphasis on traditional Catholic theology by the church…

“I think you’ll find a man who is conservative theologically but very strong on matters of social justice,” Sheeran said…

The Society of Jesus is the largest religious order of men in the Catholic Church, according to church statistics, and the largest single order of Catholic priests. But there has never before been a Jesuit pope, reflecting both the order’s own reluctance to get deeply involved in church politics and its history as a polarizing force within Catholicism.

“I’m amazed (Francis) was selected,” Sheeran said, because “the Jesuits steer clear of getting high-ranking jobs like this.”

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Benedict was selected in 2005 as a caretaker after the momentous papacy of John Paul II, but the shy theologian appeared to show little inclination toward management. His papacy suffered from crises of communications — with Muslims, Jews and Anglicans — that, along with a sex abuse crisis that raged back to life in Europe in 2010, evolved into a crisis of governance…

Francis will have to help make the Vatican bureaucracy — often seen as a hornet’s nest of infighting Italians — work more efficiently for the good of the church. After years in which Benedict and John Paul helped consolidate more power at the top, many liberal Catholics also hope that the new pope will give local bishops’ conferences more decision-making power to help respond to the needs of the faithful.

The reform of the Roman Curia, which runs the Vatican, “is not conceptually hard,” said Alberto Melloni, the author of numerous books on the Vatican and the Second Vatican Council. “it’s hard on a political front, but it will take five minutes for someone who has the strength. You get rid of the spoil system, and that’s it.”

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Yet the new pontiff is in other ways a cautious choice — first, because at 76, he’s only two years younger than Benedict was when he was chosen in 2005, and while not exactly a ‘caretaker pope,’ is certainly a less risky choice than someone younger, who would have been expected to have a longer pontificate…

Cardinal Borgoglio may also have been a less radical choice than some other options — Milan’s Cardinal Angelo Scola, for instance — in terms of institutional reform.

After years of embarrassing sexual abuse and financial scandals, anyone stepping into the role of pope knows sweeping administrative reform is needed — even those inside the Curia who will fight hardest for the status quo publicly say they support it — and the new pope has also spoken of the need to clean house, saying, “We have to avoid the spiritual sickness of a self-referential church.”

But since Cardinal Borgoglio never worked inside the Vatican, he’s seen as less likely than some other candidates were to overhaul the way its government functions, and doesn’t, the thinking being that to truly reform the Curia, it helps to know how it works.

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My only provisional thoughts are these. First, whatever correlations of factions and forces within the conclave produced this result, Bergoglio won relatively swiftly, which — joined to his runner-up status last time, in a conclave that had a very different slate of cardinal electors — suggests a man with deep reservoirs of support and goodwill among his fellow prelates. Even if he was a compromise choice of some sort, his fellow electors were clearly quite happy to make it. If the new pope makes bold moves, and especially moves that ruffle feathers in the Roman court, it will reflect his confidence in that support. On the other hand, if he does prove more of a caretaker figure, it will be a sign that a supermajority of his fellow cardinals had much less interest in institutional change than the pre-conclave press accounts suggested.

Second, the choice of a Latin American makes a great deal of sense on paper, since Latin America is in many ways the place where the different experiences of global Catholicism converge. The region shares a New World experience with North America, a long record of church-state entanglements with Western Europe, a history of colonial exploitation and stark extremes of wealth and poverty with sub-Saharan Africa. The Latin church faces the same challenges from secularism and sexual liberation as the church in the developed world, and the same explosive growth of Pentecostalist and prosperity-oriented Christian alternatives as the church elsewhere in the global South. A pontiff from the region is thus a natural choice, in ways that an African or Asian pope might not have been, to move the church’s focus away from Europe and North America (and especially Europe) in some ways without cutting the Vatican off from the trends, issues and crises facing the church in a secularizing West.

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But the other way to look at the dawn of this papacy is that it is one more in the pile of recent Catholic novelties and mediocrities. He is the first Latin American pope, the first Jesuit to be pope, and the first to take the name Francis. And so he falls in line with the larger era of the church in the past 50 years which has been defined by ill-considered experimentation: a “pastoral” ecumenical council at Vatican II, a new synthetic vernacular liturgy, the hasty revision of the rules for almost all religious orders within the church, the dramatic gestures and “saint factory” of Pope John Paul II’s papacy, along with the surprise resignation of Benedict XVI. In this vision, Benedict’s papacy, which focused on “continuity,” seems like the exception to an epoch of stunning and unsettling change, which—as we know—usually heralds collapse.

There are reasons to believe that Pope Francis is a transitional figure, unlikely to affect major reform at the top of the church. He is not known as a champion of any theological vision, traditional or modern. He is just two years younger than Pope Benedict was upon his election eight years ago. He has deep connections to Italy, but little experience with the workings of the Vatican offices. A contentious reading of Pope Francis’ rise is that Benedict’s enemies have triumphed completely. It is unusual for a one-time rival in a previous election to triumph in a future one. And there is almost no path to Bergoglio’s election without support from curial Italians, combined with a Latin American bloc. Low-level conspiracy theories already flourish in Italy that Benedict’s resignation was the result of a curia determined to undermine his reforms. This election will only intensify that speculation. An older pope who does not know which curial offices and officers need the ax, will be even easier to ignore than Benedict…

Of course, the papacy has offered surprises in the past. Catholic tradition holds that the papacy was built on a mediocre man, St. Peter, who was once described as “a shuffler, a snob, a coward—in a word, a man.” Pope Francis is now the man at the head of a Church impaired by immoral clergy, negligent bishops, and a moribund intellectual and spiritual life. God help him.

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kingsjester on March 29, 2013 at 6:57 AM

amen

and a blessed weekend to you and yours…

cmsinaz on March 29, 2013 at 6:59 AM

morning joe crew loving dear leader’s speech on gun control this am…

puhleeze…

cmsinaz on March 29, 2013 at 7:12 AM

strawmen!!!!!

-dear leader

cmsinaz on March 29, 2013 at 7:13 AM

I can’t say anything to you that I want to say to you about that. That post. :) And me saying this about not being able to say anything is probably silly, but . . . I just want you to know . . . I think you’d probably want to know . . .

. . . putting it in a private email would just make this worse . . .

OK: Let it be put in the public record that if a day began with me jumping out in front of you with a sword and taking your hit, it would end with me entering heaven at a run, making for the throne of God, and asking him to quickly send someone else to pick up my sword and take my place. After that was done, I’d shower and go look around.

If that makes any sense to you at all. I’m trying to get at something I don’t fully understand. I’m not a woman. Silliness of medieval analogies, our relative skill with close combat, or your personal preference about whether I should or shouldn’t have done anything that stupid notwithstanding.

. . . not sure how else to say it.

Axe on March 29, 2013 at 2:24 AM

Thanks for sharing…I think. If you’ll grant me the indulgence, I will offer an expanded reply once I receive my copy of Rosetta Stone’s Axe-to-Austrian-to-English translator. :-))

Also, for what its worth, I pray for your weird English ass all the time. :)

You don’t have to love me like you do
But you do, but you do.
And I thank you.

You don’t have to ponder-n-’ply to me like you do
But you do, but you do.
And I thank you.

If you take your love to somewhere else
I wouldn’t know what it means to be baffled to death
You make me feel like I’ve never felt
Words so indescribable I have to holler to Rosetta Stone for help

You don’t have to squeeze me, but you do
But you do, but you do
And I thank you.

You don’t have to obsess about my witchy-woman-evil-lip-eye avatar, but you do
But you do, but you do
And I thank you…I think

Every day is something new,
You pull out your bag and your fine to-do
You got me trying new things, too
Just so I can keep up with you.

You don’t have to Harlem Shake me like you do
But you do, but you do
And my broken ribs don’t thank you.

You don’t have to quake it like you do
But you do, but you do
And, especially since it pizzes off the Iranian Mullans, I thank you.

All my life I’ve been shortchanged
Without your love baby, it’s a crying shame
And now I know what the sistas are talking about
When they say that they been turned out

I want to thank you
Thank you
Thank you, baby
Oh baby
Got to say

You don’t have to pray for me like you do
But you do, but you do.

You don’t have to love me like you do
But you do, but you do.
And, I thank you.

Thank you
Baby
Baby
Thank!
I’ve!
Got!
I’ve got to!
Thank you, baby!

{{Hugs4Real}}

Resist We Much on March 29, 2013 at 7:26 AM

Hey cmsinaz!

Congrats on that gay-a-day Senate edition win.

Happy Nomad on March 29, 2013 at 7:42 AM

i don’t get it

cmsinaz on March 29, 2013 at 6:54 AM

It stopped being in our hands a loooong time ago.

Cleombrotus on March 29, 2013 at 7:42 AM

GAYS GUNS AMNESTY!!!!

24/7/365

The media jihad continues!

PappyD61 on March 29, 2013 at 7:46 AM

Happy Nomad on March 29, 2013 at 7:42 AM

thanks :)

*curtsy*

cmsinaz on March 29, 2013 at 7:47 AM

Cleombrotus on March 29, 2013 at 7:42 AM

*sigh*

KJ has the take…

cmsinaz on March 29, 2013 at 7:47 AM

Nice collection of quotations regarding what’s coming.

I’ve commented twice before that I couldn’t get over the cluelessness and disbelief of Chris Wallace while hosting FNC’s Special Report on Wednesday night. Fred Barnes described the fears Christian churches had about a ruling that essentially would unleash gays to sue them for not performing SSM ceremonies and to push for having their tax-exempt status revoked. Wallace couldn’t believe that would ever happen.

I tend to think that SCOTUS will go narrow. Gays will undoubtedly pick up more states. But I think there will be some kind of overreach that finally galvanize some resistance. Gays wil do something stupid like publicly dump on some group of Christian children who are too young even to be involved in the debate. Just watch. In there hearts, most gays couldn’t give a rat’s a** about families and kids. They have to be some of the most self-centered, self-absorbed people around.

On a separate note, conservatives worried about the culture really need to examine what they’re consuming on TV. To be sure, everyone’s entitled to his or her guilty pleasure. But as soon as I start seeing a regular gay character who wields absolute moral authority, it’s over. Maybe I didn’t think hard enough about it at the time, but NYPD seemed to handle the administrative assistant’s character pretty well. But you couldn’t pay me to follow Will & Grace, and I simply won’t watch Modern Family (even though the Hispanic woman is great, and they guy who played Al Bundy seems funny too). Glee? Please. And while flipping channels earlier this week, I stumbled onto that series The New Normal. I went back and forth, but the episode evidently dealt with one of the partners either quitting or being terminated as a Cub Scouts leader. Spare me.

Maybe I’m backward, but I need better humor and better drama than is provided by characters obsessed with their sexual orientation. Vote with your feet and your remote.

BuckeyeSam on March 29, 2013 at 7:49 AM

cmsinaz on March 29, 2013 at 7:47 AM

I hate it when I’m right.

kingsjester on March 29, 2013 at 7:50 AM

…how do some of these people get elected?…good again kj!…I can get maybe one or two ‘good’ Letters To The Editor out per month…if my brain permits!…you do ‘IT’…all the time!

KOOLAID2 on March 29, 2013 at 7:51 AM

OT-

The rat-eared devil isn’t doing too well in his bracket picks this year. Indiana lost last night. So sad. We get his bracket picks well ahead of his budget submission and he delivers his usual level of incompetence.

Happy Nomad on March 29, 2013 at 7:54 AM

KOOLAID2 on March 29, 2013 at 7:51 AM

Thankyaverymuch!

kingsjester on March 29, 2013 at 8:04 AM

Some gay rights advocates will believe that society needs to punish and repress these beliefs. Just as we don’t let segregated schools enjoy tax benefits and deny racists the “right” to discriminate in hiring and promoting, shouldn’t we hand out the same treatment to those backward bigots who refuse to move with the times?

At Via Meadia, we think that’s wrong. The distinction we would draw is between those who promote violence and bullying, and those who dissent from the new laws on moral grounds…

Exactly where we will be headed. It’s already happening.

1. It’s a free country, X should not be illegal.

2. The Constitution prohibits X from being made illegal.

3. If the Constitution protects a right to X, how can it be immoral? Anyone who disagrees is a bigot.

4. If X is a Constitutional right, how can we deny it to the poor? Taxpayer money must be given to people to get X.

5. The Constitution requires that taxpayer money be given to people to get X.

6. People who refuse to participate in X are criminals.

7. People who publicly disagree with X are criminals.

The activists who cried out about supposed persecution will in time become the persecutors.

The same homosexual mob mentality we see in Sodom and Gomorrah is alive and well today in homosexual activists. It is the same spirit.

Just one video. Homosexual mob attacking a grandmother caught on the news.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Wo6ahRv8E

Here’s another story you probably never heard of. Mary Stachowicz Murdered by a homosexual because she shared her faith with him.

Of course, it’s not a hate crime when a homosexual murders a mother of four because she’s a Christian.
http://www.armyofgod.com/MaryStachowicz.html

JellyToast on March 29, 2013 at 8:22 AM

Damn se* all the time. I’m sick of hearing of the gheys. Economy? Jobs? Small businesses? National security? Nada. The darn culture is imploding. Its an American Idol generation. Seriousness, soberness and maturity are considered to be dull and boring. Yep, Pax Americana is coming to an end.

tommy71 on March 29, 2013 at 9:36 AM

BuckeyeSam on March 29, 2013 at 7:49 AM

Agreed. But most of what passes for entertainment on TV has been totally vapid for a long time now. When I’m not at work, my TV is off, maybe except for checking the weather forecast. And yeah, I do believe that what one watches on TV gets inside and affects a person stealthily, even when they insist it doesn’t.

I lost interest in anything on TV about 30 years ago. The last show I followed with any regularity was “The Cosby Show.” Really.

PatriotGal2257 on March 29, 2013 at 11:35 AM

Why did the man post assembly for a frequency display? This is not evidence of a worm. This has nothing to do with a worm. Its just a display.

SWalker . . . needs more medicine.

Wait — take nothing for granted. maybe I need more medicine.

*checks pulse*

Axe on March 29, 2013 at 4:59 AM

ROTFLMAO…. Apples have core’s, worms eat their way to the core, 6502 CPU for the Apple II… Clocks tell Time, in this case, they tell that the 6502′s time is long gone… :P “Too soon too soon” lol lol lol

SWalker on March 29, 2013 at 11:54 AM

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