Jay Carney “contradicts” Obama: No, actually, it was the White House who canceled public tours

posted at 7:21 pm on March 13, 2013 by Allahpundit

The GOP cut this clip earlier, now I’m seeing people tweet it as proof that Carney and Obama can’t get their story straight on who’s to blame for the cynical “Fireman First” decision that canceled White House tours over sequestration. O said that decision wasn’t up to the White House; Carney says it was. Aha! But wait. Unless I’m misunderstanding, all Carney’s saying is that the Secret Service forced the White House’s hand. They decided they couldn’t afford to staff the building for tours until the budget cuts are lifted; the White House then had no choice but to cancel the tours due to lack of security. They’re both blaming the Secret Service ultimately. O, because of his severe allergies to any responsibility for bad developments, is just being a little more forceful about it.

The question isn’t whether he and Carney are contradicting each other, it’s whether the nonsense about the Secret Service being forced by cuts to cancel the tours is true. A former agent tells Breitbart.com that it isn’t:

Bongino, who served 12 years in the Secret Service including five years working directly at the White House before leaving to run as a Republican for U.S. Senate in Maryland, said Obama is lying because the Secret Service does not make such decisions.

“The Secret Service does not make political decisions,” Bongino said. “The Secret Service makes security decisions. His statement that it was a Secret Service decision internal budget decision–and keep in mind, I’m not speaking for the Secret Service, I’m speaking from experience of being with them. All he’d have to do is cancel one or two of his political trips and his Martha’s Vineyard vacation, which two years ago I was on and helped coordinate, he would save that money times ten. There was just no way this was a sound decision. To insinuate this is the first administration where the White House social office and the Executive Office of the President had no role in cancelling public tours at the White House, that he was the first president who was left out of the decision, is absolute nonsense.”…

Bongino said the Secret Service is not correcting Obama because the agency has “a great, elite group of guys and they’re always going to take it on the chin.”

Elsewhere in Secret Service news, agents will presumably accompany “observant Catholic” Joe Biden to Rome at great public expense for the new pope’s installation. Note to Francis: Ask Joe his thoughts on whether life begins at conception. That’ll get the conversation rolling.


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No, actually, it was the White House who canceled public tours.

Ah, the old let’s blame the building and see if they buy it, trick.

viking01 on March 13, 2013 at 7:22 PM

Elsewhere in Secret Service news, agents will presumably accompany “observant Catholic” Joe Biden to Rome at great public expense for the new pope’s installation. Note to Francis: Ask Joe his thoughts on whether life begins at conception. That’ll get the conversation rolling.

Be a real hoot if he excommunicated Joe in person.

Might as well throw on San Fran Granny Rictus while he’s at it.

BigWyo on March 13, 2013 at 7:24 PM

That’s “The White House” and not Obama. Obama again is not responsible. Obama will fix it now that he’s found out about it for the first time. /s

Drained Brain on March 13, 2013 at 7:24 PM

“Overtime pay cuts”

BooFlukingHoo!

jawkneemusic on March 13, 2013 at 7:25 PM

Note to Francis: Ask Joe his thoughts on whether life begins at conception. That’ll get the conversation rolling.

You little grenade thrower, you! :)

ThePrez on March 13, 2013 at 7:26 PM

Liberals get played. What a stupid bunch.

CW on March 13, 2013 at 7:27 PM

Elsewhere in Secret Service news, agents will presumably accompany “observant Catholic” Joe Biden to Rome at great public expense for the new pope’s installation. Note to Francis: Ask Joe his thoughts on whether life begins at conception. That’ll get the conversation rolling.

Un-freakin-believable. They’re taking food away from hungry children and denying them vaccines and closing the white house, yet Mr. GardenVarietyWifeSlap is going to Rome. What a bunch of jerks.

Jackalope on March 13, 2013 at 7:28 PM

At this point….
What difference does it make.

Electrongod on March 13, 2013 at 7:28 PM

At this point….
What difference does it make.

Electrongod on March 13, 2013 at 7:28 PM

Thread winner for this thread and every other.

fight like a girl on March 13, 2013 at 7:30 PM

All he’d have to do is cancel one or two of his political trips and his Martha’s Vineyard vacation,

Laugh of the day.

Be a real hoot if he excommunicated Joe in person.

Might as well throw on San Fran Granny Rictus while he’s at it.

BigWyo on March 13, 2013 at 7:24 PM

Not quite exommunication, but no Mass:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/03/13/Francis-no-communion-abortion

we should be conscious that people cannot receive holy communion and at the same time act or speak against the commandments, in particular when abortions, euthanasia, and other serious crimes against life and family are facilitated. This responsibility applies particularly to legislators, governors, and health professionals.”

rbj on March 13, 2013 at 7:35 PM

Lack of demand, not lack of funding.

Flange on March 13, 2013 at 7:35 PM

Who the hell cares?

bgibbs1000 on March 13, 2013 at 7:35 PM

Who’s to blame for this administration’s problems? The Secret service, the CIA, Republicans…they take blame for nothing! They seriously make my blood boil

sadsushi on March 13, 2013 at 7:38 PM

It’s what they do. It’s a distraction for the people to get worked up about, while Obama polishes his niblick.

Mimzey on March 13, 2013 at 7:39 PM

The question isn’t whether he and Carney are contradicting each other, it’s whether the nonsense about the Secret Service being forced by cuts to cancel the tours is true.

That’s still in question? Of course the Secret Service didn’t have to cancel those tours. Presumably it was because of personnel and there is a 30-day notice period before such cuts go into place. We are l3 days into sequester.

Happy Nomad on March 13, 2013 at 7:41 PM

“The buck stops with YOU.” Barack Obama- July 13, 2012

TarheelBen on March 13, 2013 at 7:42 PM

That’s “The White House” and not Obama. Obama again is not responsible. Obama will fix it now that he’s found out about it for the first time. /s

Drained Brain on March 13, 2013 at 7:24 PM

The Limbaugh Theorem in practice – right before our eyes.

TarheelBen on March 13, 2013 at 7:45 PM

Regardless of who made what decision, give me the names of the agents who were let go as a result of this decision. Because if they don’t have names, the whole thing is bull. No pink slips, no savings.

JusDreamin on March 13, 2013 at 7:46 PM

You know, I don’t like this guy, Carney. I think he’s way out of his league…has been from the start. But I hope that doing the president’s bidding, whether it be the Benghazi tragedy, the blown out of proportion SEEEEEEquester, or just out and out lying to reporters and fudging the truth, that he somehow manages to survive this joke of an administration and is still able to find employment once their rule over the country is over. I’m sure he has a family to support and looks forward to the day when he doesn’t have to serve up this crap to reporters and the citizens every day.

scalleywag on March 13, 2013 at 7:50 PM

Who the hell cares?

bgibbs1000 on March 13, 2013 at 7:35 PM

I still care about the public tours. It’s still our Nation’s house even if Ogabe and Regime Media have transformed it into Berchtesgaden.

viking01 on March 13, 2013 at 7:51 PM

“The attacks on the Benghazi consulate were the result of a YouTube video…”

Seven Percent Solution on March 13, 2013 at 7:51 PM

Ever notice how when US forces are brought into a country they just “arrive”, but when they get to come home, Obama “brings” them?

drunyan8315 on March 13, 2013 at 8:02 PM

Who’s to blame for this administration’s problems? The Secret service, the CIA, Republicans…they take blame for nothing! They seriously make my blood boil

sadsushi on March 13, 2013 at 7:38 PM

Take it easy there bud! Your blood is guaranteed to boil for many more years to come. America is moving away from folks who think the way your crew does.

HotAirLib on March 13, 2013 at 8:03 PM

You little grenade thrower, you! :)

ThePrez on March 13, 2013 at 7:26 PM

Who you callin’ little?

wolfsDad on March 13, 2013 at 8:04 PM

Ever notice how when US forces are brought into a country they just “arrive”, but when they get to come home, Obama “brings” them?

drunyan8315 on March 13, 2013 at 8:02 PM

Actually we love it when Obama orders our troops to come home. I know that pisses off folks like you who can’t seem to see another country they do not want to invade.

HotAirLib on March 13, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Elsewhere in Secret Service news, agents will presumably accompany “observant Catholic” Joe Biden to Rome at great public expense for the new pope’s installation. Note to Francis: Ask Joe his thoughts on whether life begins at conception. That’ll get the conversation rolling.
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I do wonder,in light of the Cat 0 Strophic/End of the World
SeQuesterization,

does GaffeBiden really have to go!!

canopfor on March 13, 2013 at 8:12 PM

Troll boycott!

scalleywag on March 13, 2013 at 8:13 PM

And not one reporter thought to ask if the President was so upset about the sequester, why did he insist on it? And no one asked if there was something the President was willing to cut back on to allow the tours to continue?

hopeful on March 13, 2013 at 8:23 PM

Take it easy there bud! Your blood is guaranteed to boil for many more years to come. America is moving away from folks who think the way your crew does.

HotAirLib on March 13, 2013 at 8:03 PM

I know right? That whole “The Buck Stops Here” mentality nonsense in a President was just ridiculous! Who needs a Prezzy that takes personal responsibility and is accountable and doesn’t lie and fear-monger to score cheap political points. Yes, move away from that!!!

OH, and your Prezzy didn’t order the troops home…it was the Secret Service..you big dummy.

Sing it.HAL.

HumpBot Salvation on March 13, 2013 at 8:23 PM

Troll boycott!

scalleywag on March 13, 2013 at 8:13 PM

Concur.

Johnnyreb on March 13, 2013 at 8:24 PM

Wow… Just watching first five seconds make it look so obvious that he is totally lying… Reporters don’t see that?

doppiolover on March 13, 2013 at 8:26 PM

Take it easy there bud! Your blood is guaranteed to boil for many more years to come. America is moving away from folks who think the way your crew does.

HotAirLib on March 13, 2013 at 8:03 PM
Actually we love it when Obama orders our troops to come home. I know that pisses off folks like you who can’t seem to see another country they do not want to invade.

HotAirLib on March 13, 2013 at 8:06 PM

…you have to sing…you don’t make sense! …keep your head down there…keep sucking!…come up for air when you can hit a note!

KOOLAID2 on March 13, 2013 at 8:29 PM

The must-see in DC is the Holocaust Museum.
More educational, enlightening and emotionally moving than the WH.

Don’t waste your time and money on the “National Aquarium” it was tiny and dull. Screaming children made us leave in less than 10 minutes.

kooly on March 13, 2013 at 8:30 PM

No Sh*t Sherlock,the Grand BackFire!!!

The Hill ‏@thehill

White House tour move backfires on Obama http://j.mp/YbUPcY by @amieparnes
============

March 13 2013-8:22PM ET

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/288055-tour-move-backfires-on-obama

canopfor on March 13, 2013 at 8:36 PM

…you have to sing…you don’t make sense! …keep your head down there…keep sucking!…come up for air when you can hit a note!

KOOLAID2 on March 13, 2013 at 8:29 PM

No coming up for air needed, it’s learned how to breathe out of it’s a$$.

VegasRick on March 13, 2013 at 8:47 PM

I think it was Mark Twain who said something like, “I always tell the truth so I don’t have to remember as much.”

Evidently that memory thing it gets exponentially complicated when there are multiple liars involved.

WestTexasBirdDog on March 13, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Are those 18 agents now layed off?

If not, the cost of those agents, and by default the tours, has not been affected in any way.

Liars. All of them.

BobMbx on March 13, 2013 at 8:57 PM

Stop blaming Obama for being stupid and then refusing to accept responsibility. He is a child behaving badly because the media allow him to get away with it.

2ndMAW68 on March 13, 2013 at 9:01 PM

WTBD
We think alike. Liars always get caught.
I learned that at eight years old.
I am happy to wait for it as it will come.

seesalrun2 on March 13, 2013 at 9:02 PM

Wascally Wepubwicans!

bill glass on March 13, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Jay Carney “contradicts” Obama: No, actually, it was the White House who canceled public tours

Well, at least they lie better on the big things.

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 13, 2013 at 9:54 PM

Remember during the Bush 43 years when the media obsessed over forcing W to admit his mistakes … yeah, good times.

heretic on March 13, 2013 at 10:36 PM

How bad dose this stink? Lets count the ways.

1. The cost of the secret service is paid by the Department of Homeland Security.
2. The purpose of the secret service is to keep a group of 6 grade kids from wandering about.
3. No agents were laid off, only transferred to the Eisenhower Executive Office Building and the Treasury Department.
4. Savings in theory are of 1480 over time hours per week at only $25.00/hour or only $37,000 per week.
5. White House tours are only available for 20 hours per week.
6. Actual maximum savings could only be $17,500 per week.
7. Secret service agents are not hourly employees.
8. Only Congressmen are punished by this since only congressmen arrange for the tours.
9. The White House office that coordinates the tours will still be fully staffed but with nothing to do. In 2012 the Government spent over $1,200,000,000.00 for Obama and family recreational activities. No cuts there.

jpcpt03 on March 14, 2013 at 3:51 AM

Well.. Papa Francesco is on record as saying that observant Catholic politicians who support abortion shouldn’t get Communion.

Illinidiva on March 14, 2013 at 7:40 AM

Can someone tell me why their is a White House Press Corps at the White House? They don’t seem to be doing a darn thing these days excepted gossiping at the water cooler.

SC.Charlie on March 14, 2013 at 7:43 AM

The differences in statements and numbers by all involved is indicative that they are making statements independent of each other. It is also indicative that the President is losing control of his organization. In other words “MissTwiLies Run & Hide CYA, (Misleading, Twists and Lies)” just waiting for the cover-up that is yet to get organized. Check the blocks over the next few weeks and see how close the list fits the governments view of reality.

( ) Convince the media to bury the story
( ) Preemptively distribute false information
(X) Claim that the “problem” is minimal
(X) Claim faulty memory
( ) Claim the accusations are half-truths
(X ) Withhold or tamper with evidence 
(X ) Prevent the discovery of evidence
(X ) Destroy or alter the evidence
(X ) Make discovery of evidence difficult
( ) Lie or commit perjury
( ) Block or delay investigations
( ) Claim executive privilege
( ) Delayed response to allegation 
(X ) Use biased evidence as a defense
( ) Select a biased blue ribbon commission or “independent” inquiry
( ) Secretly plant stories in the press
(X ) Retaliate against hostile media
( ) Threaten the press with loss of access
( ) Attack the motives of the press 
(X ) Claim no knowledge of wrongdoing
(X ) Blame an underling for unauthorized action
( ) Fire the person(s) in charge
( ) Reward cover-up participants 
( ) Little or no punishment
( ) Promote employees as a reward for cover-up
( ) Reemploy the employee after dust clears

jpcpt03 on March 14, 2013 at 12:22 PM