Video: Falklands vote about as close as you’d expect

posted at 10:41 am on March 12, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

The Falkland Islands held a plebescite yesterday to make a statement on self-determination, and a statement they delivered. When asked whether they chose to remain in the United Kingdom as a self-governing territory or opt for any other status, 1,514 people voted to remain British. They barely edged out the alternative, squeaking past by just … 1,511 votes:

Falkland Islands voters decided by an overwhelming 99.8 percent margin Monday to keep their government just the way it is: a British Overseas Territory.

Of the 1,517 valid votes cast in the referendum, only 3 islanders voted “no” to the question: “Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?” One vote was somehow lost. …

The ballot didn’t consider any alternatives, such as full independence or some sort of political relationship with Argentina. The Falkland Islands Government had said that if a majority said “no,” they could explore alternatives in a second vote later.

It’s not as if the people shrugged off the question, either:

Elections officials reported a 92 percent turnout among the approximately 1,650 Falkland Islands voters eligible to cast ballots in the referendum. International election observer Juan Henao said the process was completely normal.

That result sends a strong message to the UN and other nations attempting to force the UK into bilateral negotiations with Argentina over the fate of the islands, which are almost 300 miles from Argentina’s coast — but which sit near potentially significant oil and gas fields:

British officials have rejected Fernandez’s call for negotiations, saying the people of the Falkland Islands have chosen to be British and “have a right to self-determination as enshrined in the U.N. Charter.”

“There are three parties to this debate, not just two as Argentina likes to pretend. The islanders can’t just be written out of history,” read a statement from the British Foreign Office.

“As such, there can be no negotiations on the sovereignty of the Falklands Islands unless and until such time as the islanders so wish.”

And the Islanders most pointedly do not wish:

On its official website, the Falklands government rejects as false the Argentinian government claim that a civilian population was expelled by Britain in 1833 and argues for the inhabitants’ right to choose their path.

“We are not an implanted population,” the government says. “Our community has been formed through voluntary immigration and settlement over the course of nearly 200 years. … We are no more an implanted population than are the various populations of South America whose ancestors arrived as immigrants from Europe — we arrived here as part of the same process and pattern of migration.”

The islands are economically self-sufficient, the government says, except for the cost of defense needed as a result of “the claim made by an aggressive neighbour.”

CNN quotes an Islander as suggesting that Argentina wants to provoke another conflict to distract Argentinians from the disastrous policies of the current government, which is basically what happened in 1982. In any event, the Argentinians have already insisted that the plebescite is invalid and insist that they will ignore it — and that should make for some interesting moments at the UN.


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Apparently McCain, Graham, and Rubio have dual citizenship.

Daemonocracy on March 12, 2013 at 10:42 AM

Too bad for those longing to live in the Maldives…

CDeb on March 12, 2013 at 10:43 AM

Methinks it would be cheaper for Britain to move another brigade to the Falklands now than to have to land one against a defended coast.

Or just station another nuc sub on permanent patrol around the Islands with orders to shoot on sight. After the General Belgrano disaster for the Argentinians, only their air force did anything. And air power is never going to occupy territory.

Vanceone on March 12, 2013 at 10:44 AM

Jeez who were the 3. The local village idiots.

Oil Can on March 12, 2013 at 10:44 AM

We are no more an implanted population than are the various populations of South America whose ancestors arrived as immigrants from Europe

Send all Hispanics back to Spain. Brazilians go back to Portugal. Then I’ll entertain discussions about who owns what in America.

rbj on March 12, 2013 at 10:44 AM

The 3 who voted no were chained to crab traps at low tide and left to die.

Bishop on March 12, 2013 at 10:44 AM

“We are not an implanted population,” the government says. “Our community has been formed through voluntary immigration and settlement over the course of nearly 200 years. … We are no more an implanted population than are the various populations of South America whose ancestors arrived as immigrants from Europe — we arrived here as part of the same process and pattern of migration.”

Wow. HAHAHAHAHAHA!

-Israeli Jews.

Ben Hur on March 12, 2013 at 10:47 AM

Good for them. Rule, Britannia!

thebrokenrattle on March 12, 2013 at 10:47 AM

Well then it wasn’t UNANIMOUS, was it…in fact there was dissent…and dissent is the highest form of Patriotism…ergo, the Maldives belong to Argentina.

And since Britons are polling people to see what they think, when is Cameron going to put the EU on the ballot?

JFKY on March 12, 2013 at 10:48 AM

I visited the Falklands a few years ago. The locals have the mavericky attitude that is similar to the Aussies. I enjoyed them very much. I was surprised at how boggy the land was there. My favorite picture that I took was of penguins looking at the people who were looking at them and taking pictures. They let the tourists get really close to the penguins. It was kind of fun.

karenhasfreedom on March 12, 2013 at 10:50 AM

Wow. HAHAHAHAHAHA!

-Israeli Jews.

To be fair, the Falklands were UNINHABITED, after an “unfortunate incident”, prior to the British immigration, unlike Palestine prior to 1948. (I am not criticizing the formation of Israel, merely pointing out that the facts on the ground were a bit different.)

JFKY on March 12, 2013 at 10:51 AM

Clearly, Argentina needs to take a page out of the Dem playbook and figure out how to lard the voter rolls with sheep and penguins.

Happy Nomad on March 12, 2013 at 10:59 AM

The Native American population that would later form the core of Argentina could not navigate much past where they could see the shore, so settlement and trade with the Falklands was impossible until Europeans with sextants and other means of stellar navigation could go far enough offshore to reliably get to the Falklands and back. There was no displaced and conquered native population that could arguably be a legacy of colonialism.

Sekhmet on March 12, 2013 at 11:00 AM

Send all Hispanics back to Spain. Brazilians go back to Portugal. Then I’ll entertain discussions about who owns what in America.

rbj on March 12, 2013 at 10:44 AM

You couldn’t send most Hispanics back to Spain short of at gunpoint. Spain is another socialist mess in the first place, and they would view the Mexicans as unskilled products of a drug-ridden cesspit.

MelonCollie on March 12, 2013 at 11:01 AM

Ausflüchten! – er, ¡Prevaricaciones!

Seth Halpern on March 12, 2013 at 11:02 AM

I wonder if Obama will still refer to them as the Malvinas?

ratherbskiing on March 12, 2013 at 11:06 AM

Yeah – but what about the Maldives?

-Obama

CycloneCDB on March 12, 2013 at 11:07 AM

You couldn’t send most Hispanics back to Spain short of at gunpoint. Spain is another socialist mess in the first place, and they would view the Mexicans as unskilled products of a drug-ridden cesspit.

MelonCollie on March 12, 2013 at 11:01 AM

Correct. Even the Spanish wouldn’t accept the Mexicans. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of groups like La Raza who claim SW America as Mexican, when they are the descendents of nasty guys like Hernan Cortes. And to cut to the chase, modern humans displaced Neanderthals, so let’s all go back to a small patch of land in Africa.

rbj on March 12, 2013 at 11:09 AM

So when do the Maldives get their referendum on whether they want to continue to be an independent nation in the Indian ocean, or belong to Argentina? Pres. Obama wants to know. s/o

simkeith on March 12, 2013 at 11:09 AM

Jeez who were the 3. The local village idiots.

[Oil Can on March 12, 2013 at 10:44 AM]

They favor independence; drill, baby, drill; and a massive military buildup.

Dusty on March 12, 2013 at 11:15 AM

I am sure Obama’s reelection vote in 2016 will be higher, now that the bar has been set…

Khun Joe on March 12, 2013 at 11:15 AM

OMG. That is so funny. Not knowing the situation, I was figuring something like 2 to 1, or even 3 to 1. Not better than 500 to 1!

Admittedly, the phrasing of the question favored this result. A different poll question might have brought down the ratio to something like 100 to 1, or even 50 to 1, or 25 to 1. But still.

Next poll of …
Residents of Bermuda — do you want to remain under the UK?
Residents of Texas — do you want to become part of Mexico? (Don’t ask if you want to leave the union, the US … that’s a loaded question! Might get 25% who want to form their own country).

Paul-Cincy on March 12, 2013 at 11:18 AM

Correct. Even the Spanish wouldn’t accept the Mexicans. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of groups like La Raza who claim SW America as Mexican, when they are the descendents of nasty guys like Hernan Cortes.

rbj on March 12, 2013 at 11:09 AM

Duly noted.

MelonCollie on March 12, 2013 at 11:20 AM

Falkland Islands voters decided by an overwhelming 99.8 percent margin Monday to keep their government just the way it is: a British Overseas Territory.

Elections officials reported a 92 percent turnout among the approximately 1,650 Falkland Islands voters eligible to cast ballots in the referendum. International election observer Juan Henao said the process was completely normal.

Cue the trolls to come and say Saddam Hussein was “re-elected” by the same margin and, therefore, his “re-election” was “completely normal”.

Bitter Clinger on March 12, 2013 at 11:23 AM

The non voters were the ones that didn’t like the choices so refused to vote.

TerryW on March 12, 2013 at 11:26 AM

This is ALL about oil and natural resources so the Brits will be set for decades to come.

…….the UK has territories all in the Atlantic.

Saint Helena, Tristan da Cunha, etc.

Bravo!!!

PappyD61 on March 12, 2013 at 11:27 AM

“We are not an implanted population,” the government says. “Our community has been formed through voluntary immigration and settlement over the course of nearly 200 years. … We are no more an implanted population than are the various populations of South America whose ancestors arrived as immigrants from Europe — we arrived here as part of the same process and pattern of migration.”

Wow. HAHAHAHAHAHA!

-Israeli Jews.

Ben Hur on March 12, 2013 at 10:47 AM

Israeli jews have an unbroken record of habitation of the Holy Land about 20 times longer.

Alberta_Patriot on March 12, 2013 at 11:30 AM

JFKY on March 12, 2013 at 10:51 AM

Any Jew that emigrated to the Yishuv or Israel during the same mass european migration referred to in the article, was joining an already existing Jewish community in existence for thousands of years.

The Jewish presence in Israel didn’t start with the Holocaust.

Just pointing out the usual Love Arafat, Hate Mugabi British hypocrisy.

Ben Hur on March 12, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Jeez who were the 3. The local village idiots.

Separatists. Full independence or nothing.

hawkeye54 on March 12, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Another recipient of Obama’s support (Kirchner) goes down in flames. The guy has a knack for picking losers.

CycloneCDB on March 12, 2013 at 11:31 AM

Exijo un recuento

WestTexasBirdDog on March 12, 2013 at 11:33 AM

Another recipient of Obama’s support (Kirchner) goes down in flames. The guy has a knack for picking losers.

CycloneCDB on March 12, 2013 at 11:31 AM

Tends to happen when one is a loser. (Unfortunately, not electorally.)

Bitter Clinger on March 12, 2013 at 11:34 AM

. Even the Spanish wouldn’t accept the Mexicans. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of groups like La Raza who claim SW America as Mexican, when they are the descendents of nasty guys like Hernan Cortes.

Even Mexicans don’t accept Mexicans. Those of European descent hold their noses up at mainly indigenous Mexicans. Just take a look at who get the high level jobs in Mexican business and media for example.

hawkeye54 on March 12, 2013 at 11:36 AM

It’s interesting how leftists insist on treating the Argentines as some sort of indigenous peoples that big mean Western bullies stole land from one day, as though the current population has lived there for thousands of years. Actual Spanish colonial history is virtually ignored. Argentina’s legal claims to the “Malvinas” have also been highly questionable at best.

We hear this same rhetoric in regards to Israel, too.

Doomberg on March 12, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Another recipient of Obama’s support (Kirchner) goes down in flames. The guy has a knack for picking losers.

[CycloneCDB on March 12, 2013 at 11:31 AM]

Breaking: Obama ranked 6th in Top 50 Most Inept People by Politics Illustrated.

Dusty on March 12, 2013 at 11:38 AM

To be fair, the Falklands were UNINHABITED, after an “unfortunate incident”, prior to the British immigration, unlike Palestine prior to 1948. (I am not criticizing the formation of Israel, merely pointing out that the facts on the ground were a bit different.)

JFKY on March 12, 2013 at 10:51 AM

Palestine was uninhabited by civilized man.

Seven Seas on March 12, 2013 at 11:40 AM

Palestine was uninhabited by civilized man.

Some of it still is.

hawkeye54 on March 12, 2013 at 11:47 AM

Jeez who were the 3. The local village idiots.

Separatists. Full independence or nothing.

hawkeye54 on March 12, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Confidence is high that at least one of the 3 is named “Wasserman” or “Schultz”.

BobMbx on March 12, 2013 at 11:48 AM

I am going to write to Argentina. For the price of a few brace of Polo ponies and a small fee from Citgo I’ll go to work on getting it back for them!

I shall just copy our text books on the general issue of white guilt, get some NEA teachers to go down and explain how Hispanics really deserve primacy in the whole hemisphere, then cover English pirates and the English exploitation of colonies>

the coup de grace will be TV programs and movies from our media showing that Anglo Saxons have impoverished the world with war and capitalism.

Then we can have Hollywood types tell them about Saint Hugo Chavez, CIA martyr Salvadore Allende, and most important — Peron and Che Gueverra.

By the time I am through, they will be begging Joe Kennedy to come by and ask the A country for a place for them. Unless he is the next senator from Massachusetts and can run without Chavez help.

BTW, Hot Air and the media both missed this:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/lick_kennedy_is_oil_broken_up_AWRYmkrpkrsF4Nrwx4jlZL

IlikedAUH2O on March 12, 2013 at 11:52 AM

I get upset when posters on threads start with the hate of whole nations and religions. Well, some you can hate, but discuss it first.

So, please don’t hate the people from Argentina.

Many of them love the US.

They like horses and taught me and my daughter to ride.

I wish I could post a photo of her at age 11 flying over a pretty significant fence.

If they did to her what they did to Ann Romney, she would run them down or use her Winchester.

IlikedAUH2O on March 12, 2013 at 11:58 AM

I remember this short, but sharp, little war. I’ll never forget the footage of what looked like an Argentinian Skyhawk, shooting down a valley and targeting some anchored British ships. A British missile hit it and the whole thing just vaporized.

When I think of the Falklands, I think of that incident.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 12, 2013 at 12:07 PM

IlikedAUH2O on March 12, 2013 at 11:58 AM

I’ve seen a few travel shows, on Argentina. I think that the place looks gorgeous … and the European style of some of their architecture was both beautiful and fascinating.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 12, 2013 at 12:09 PM

Germany in 1938 was a beautiful place, full of nice people, too…but that doesn’t mean much in the scheme of things, does it?

The Chico‘s will go if sent, and many will be happy to go IlikedAUH2O, even if concerned about the eventual outcome.

I, personally, can’t see Argentina actually “trying” anything….much of the force they had has been gutted by austerity. I’m not sure, that even if Kirchner wanted to attack, that the Argentine military could accomplish much against the British force in and around Mt. Pleasant.

JFKY on March 12, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Of course the Argentinians will ignore the vote. It’s not like they want Democracy running rampant.

GarandFan on March 12, 2013 at 12:27 PM

When I think of the Falklands, I think of that incident.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 12, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Incident? We call that a “hit”.

BobMbx on March 12, 2013 at 12:42 PM

Jeez who were the 3. The local village idiots.

Oil Can on March 12, 2013 at 10:44 AM

The Maldivian People’s Popular Front

LoganSix on March 12, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Should we give Argentina back to Spain?

PappyD61 on March 12, 2013 at 1:05 PM

The Maldivian People’s Popular Front

LoganSix on March 12, 2013 at 12:52 PM

No, it’s the People’s Front of Maldives now.

Captain Kirock on March 12, 2013 at 1:25 PM

No, it’s the People’s Front of Maldives now.

Captain Kirock on March 12, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Splitters!

LoganSix on March 12, 2013 at 1:42 PM

Too bad for those longing to live in the Maldives

CDeb on March 12, 2013 at 10:43 AM

Well then it wasn’t UNANIMOUS, was it…in fact there was dissent…and dissent is the highest form of Patriotism…ergo, the Maldives belong to Argentina.

And since Britons are polling people to see what they think, when is Cameron going to put the EU on the ballot?

JFKY on March 12, 2013 at 10:48 AM

The Maldivian People’s Popular Front

LoganSix on March 12, 2013 at 12:52 PM

No, it’s the People’s Front of Maldives now.

Captain Kirock on March 12, 2013 at 1:25 PM

How cute. A bunch of stupid cnservative morons thinking they sound clever, but confusing places entirely on opposite sides of the planet. PATHETIC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maldives

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islas_Malvinas

I know, reading and getting basic proper nouns correct is so difficult, especially if you are a mouth breathing Mitt voter. But seriously you people look as dumb as the morons who confuse Austria and Australia. Maybe dumber because as least those ones have the first 5 letters in common, and every letter in the former is found in the latter.

Daikokuco on March 12, 2013 at 2:13 PM

As Dinesh D’Souza says, Obama hates Britain, this hatred being an inheritence from his Kenyan father’s anti-colonialism. So Obama will never support Britain in anything, even when Britain is clearly in the right.

Also, lefties can’t see that in a dispute between a poor browner people and a rich whiter people, that the rich whiter people may be in the right.

Johnny 100 Pesos on March 12, 2013 at 2:28 PM

Too bad for those longing to live in the Maldives…

CDeb on March 12, 2013 at 10:43 AM

Well then it wasn’t UNANIMOUS, was it…in fact there was dissent…and dissent is the highest form of Patriotism…ergo, the Maldives belong to Argentina.

And since Britons are polling people to see what they think, when is Cameron going to put the EU on the ballot?

JFKY on March 12, 2013 at 10:48 AM

The Maldivian People’s Popular Front

LoganSix on March 12, 2013 at 12:52 PM

No, it’s the People’s Front of Maldives now.

Captain Kirock on March 12, 2013 at 1:25 PM

How cute. A bunch of stupid cnservative morons thinking they sound clever, but confusing places entirely on opposite sides of the planet. PATHETIC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maldives

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islas_Malvinas

I know, reading and getting basic proper nouns correct is so difficult, especially if you are a mouth breathing Mitt voter. But seriously you people look as dumb as the morons who confuse Austria and Australia. Maybe dumber because as least those ones have the first 5 letters in common, and every letter in the former is found in the latter.

Daikokuco on March 12, 2013 at 2:13 PM

Read the following, and tell us who’s stupid. Here’s a hint, you and your god.

Imbecile.

Obama Refers To Malvinas As Maldives

OhEssYouCowboys on March 12, 2013 at 2:45 PM

P.S.

Like shooting fish in a barrel.

I wonder, is there any fish known as the Red-Faced Fish?

Assuming arguendo that a Socialist can possibly be embarrassed, or humiliated.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 12, 2013 at 2:51 PM

Many thanks to the vast majority of Hot Air respondents for supporting us on this. Fact is that in the early 80s British blood was the price of driving out the illegal Argentinian invasion. UK opinion is almost unanimous on this – British people would condemn any attempt to even negotiate on this matter…end of story..

callingallcomets on March 12, 2013 at 2:57 PM

I know, reading and getting basic proper nouns correct is so difficult, especially if you are a mouth breathing Mitt voter. But seriously you people look as dumb as the morons…

Daikokuco on March 12, 2013 at 2:13 PM

Says the person who couldn’t catch not one, but two jokes running through a thread.

Somebody better take those bunny rabbits away from Lennie before he does something bad.

LoganSix on March 12, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Eureka!

Red Face Mac

OhEssYouCowboys on March 12, 2013 at 3:05 PM

LoganSix on March 12, 2013 at 3:00 PM

I’m, almost, embarrassed for the pitiful soul.

Except for the fact that imbeciles like it foisted Commander Transparent on us, I would be embarrassed.

However, I’m simply contemptuous.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 12, 2013 at 3:08 PM

Recount!

No problem, Argentina! Just hire Al Franken to come in and help you with the recount. It’s amazing where he finds votes!

NavyMustang on March 12, 2013 at 3:09 PM

callingallcomets on March 12, 2013 at 2:57 PM

There can’t be an Oceania without both of us!

;O)

OhEssYouCowboys on March 12, 2013 at 3:10 PM

Jeez who were the 3. The local village idiots.

Oil can

Three votes for Pat Buchanan!

Slyly using current pop culture reference ala Maureen Dowd ;)

deadman on March 12, 2013 at 3:45 PM

I despise the Cow of Argentina, with profuse apologies to all good cows.

Schadenfreude on March 12, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Daikokuco on March 12, 2013 at 2:13 PM

You leftoid drones (obots) really aren’t very smart, are you?

Here, it is a joke.

Your obamassiah – whom you worship and adore – said it out of sheer, unadulterated stupidity (and a desire to crap on England).

Solaratov on March 12, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Daikokuco on March 12, 2013 at 2:13 PM

Read the following, and tell us who’s stupid. Here’s a hint, you and your god.

Imbecile.

Obama Refers To Malvinas As Maldives

OhEssYouCowboys on March 12, 2013 at 2:45 PM

That was beautiful to watch.

A+

And Daily Kos Cuckoo also conveniently forgets that O’bama has also claimed in the past, with absolutely no correcting by his Kneepad Media, that:

1. The residents of Austria speak “Austrian” and

2. Hawai’i, the State he claims to have been born in, is located “in Asia.”

No wonder he keeps all of his grades a State Secret.

Del Dolemonte on March 12, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Daikokuco on March 12, 2013 at 2:13 PM

Raaaaacist!

malclave on March 12, 2013 at 7:46 PM