Video: “Walking Dead” getting closer to having something interesting happen

posted at 8:41 pm on March 11, 2013 by Allahpundit

Look on the bright side. Even though nothing interesting happened last night, the ethical dilemma for Rick over whether to hand Michonne over to the Governor is potentially interesting. And now that we know the two sides are going to war, we’re all but guaranteed that one or more major characters will be liquidated in the season finale. That’s interesting, right? But wait: Apart from Rick, who’s assuredly not being killed off, is there anyone else at this point who qualifies as a “major character”? He’s the only one whose death would feel like a major, show-changing blow. Normally Darryl would qualify but I feel like he’s had three lines total over the last five episodes and the plot hasn’t suffered much for it. Now that he’s reunited with Merle, what’s left for him to do? His journey from grimy hardboiled yokel to sensitive hero-protector was completed long ago. Come to think of it, Glenn doesn’t seem to do much of anything anymore either. Prediction: One of them will end up taking a bullet for his respective love interest and end up dying as she weeps over him in the season finale.

Actually, Carl’s death would be a major blow but I don’t think the writers are willing to go there. He’s more interesting alive, as a coming-of-age story in the zombie End Times, than as another dead relative to haunt Rick. Now, a question: Granting that the question of whether to hand over Michonne is potentially interesting, since Rick knows and we know and everyone else knows that the Governor fully intends to kill everyone in the prison no matter what happens with her, where exactly is the moral complexity here? You gain nothing by paying the danegeld in giving up Michonne. On the contrary, you lose a fearless warrior and you sow paranoia in the rest of the group that you’ll sell them out next. The only compelling solution to the problem under the circumstances would be for Rick to sell her out whereupon someone else in the group, probably Hershel, shoots him in the back because he’s no longer trustworthy. But that won’t happen. When you paint yourself in the corner by making the story of the zombie apocalypse a soap opera about a small bunch of characters, some of whom are bound to end up as indispensable, you have to accept your limitations.


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Was last night a baby step? Or a slip backwards?

It sure was a talk fest. Maybe they can rename it “The Talking Dead”.

cozmo on March 11, 2013 at 8:46 PM

Video: “Walking Dead” getting closer to having something interesting happen

What? They’re finally going to cancel it? About time.

SWalker on March 11, 2013 at 8:46 PM

I have to say, I am soooo glad I never started watching this snoozer.

Warner Todd Huston on March 11, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Actually, Carl’s death would be a major blow but I don’t think the writers are willing to go there. He’s more interesting alive, as a coming-of-age story in the zombie End Times, than as another dead relative to haunt Rick.

The baby. The baby is entirely expendable; her death would give the group the impetus it needs to leave the prison for the next season; it would feed into Rick’s everlasting guilt complex, and; it gives the Governor a cheap shot at revenge for the death of his own “daughter.”

Prediction:

Governor attacks the prison with the aid of the refugee group that Rick turned away. Rick’s group puts up a fierce defense, but the refugee group knows that there is a breach in the wall on the far side of the prison. The governor’s men break through there, capture some of the non-combatants who are still in the cellblock. The Governor then executes them, including the baby.

Rick’s group stages a counterattack, triumphs and kills the governor.

Andrea takes over Woodbury. She denies access to Woodbury to Rick and his group; they’ve grown too far apart. Now that the Governor is dead, Andrea is finally in control (which is what she always wanted), and forces Rick’s group into exile. With the baby dead, and the prison hopelessly compromised after the battle, Rick’s group moves on. Rick is more shattered than before.

I have not read the comics — this is just my best guess.

Revenant on March 11, 2013 at 8:49 PM

What? They’re finally going to cancel it? About time.

SWalker on March 11, 2013 at 8:46 PM

Yes. They’re going to cancel the highest rated cable TV drama. Because you don’t like it. Good call, bro!

MikeknaJ on March 11, 2013 at 8:50 PM

You forgot to mention the Glenn/Maggie sex scene.

Talk about filler.

sentinelrules on March 11, 2013 at 8:50 PM

You forgot to mention the Glenn/Maggie sex scene.

Talk about filler.

sentinelrules on March 11, 2013 at 8:50 PM

You forgot to mention that you’ll be here all week and to tip the waitress. ;)

kim roy on March 11, 2013 at 8:52 PM

In a parallel universe there’s a Conservative Hollywood. Their WD is so much better. They’ve read their Robinson Crusoe, the Aeneid, their histories of the founding of our early Colonial settlements; and we get to see the refounding of the USA. Survivors who have kept a memory of the past fare better than the ones who think history began on a Tuesday in January 2009.

dhimwit on March 11, 2013 at 8:54 PM

You forgot to mention the Glenn/Maggie sex scene.

Talk about filler.

sentinelrules on March 11, 2013 at 8:50 PM

Haha, yeah. I was watching that gratuitous scene WTH remote in hand ready to fast forward through it but though for sure that a walker was going to come through a door or that Merle was watching. But nothing happened and it was just gratuitous and pointless.

Charlemagne on March 11, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Someone from the prison will die but Andrea will save the day and re-join with Rick’s team in the end (or next seasons premier).

This season has been pretty boring if you ask me.

F15Mech on March 11, 2013 at 8:55 PM

since Rick knows and we know and everyone else knows that the Governor fully intends to kill everyone in the prison no matter what happens with her, where exactly is the moral complexity here?

This.

You forgot to mention the Glenn/Maggie sex scene.
….

sentinelrules on March 11, 2013 at 8:50 PM

One of the most unbelievable relationships on TV.

Last night had to be the worst episode to date. Talk about milking it.

CW on March 11, 2013 at 8:57 PM

Ugh, blogger wants major character killed every episode. Man, people are just hard to please these days.

The two things I liked about the episode was the hidden gun the Gov had taped to the table, keeping tensions high during a long conversation. Smart move. Even better was the conversation with Daryl and the other guy. That goes deeper than most of the story. Two guys who have a lot of the same problems and needs, but these crazy circumstances make them enemies.

Then you had plenty on baseball bat crushing, Rambo knife throwing, arrow piercing zombie killing to satisfy the gore crowd.

Dongemaharu on March 11, 2013 at 8:59 PM

Big action next week..look forward to it

sadsushi on March 11, 2013 at 8:59 PM

Hate it all you want but it is doing excellent in the ratings and viewers have increased significantly from last year. It’s a hit, whinos!

Blake on March 11, 2013 at 9:02 PM

The two things I liked about the episode was the hidden gun the Gov had taped to the table, keeping tensions high during a long conversation. Smart move.

Didn’t Herschel have a gun taped to his stump?

Even better was the conversation with Daryl and the other guy. That goes deeper than most of the story. Two guys who have a lot of the same problems and needs, but these crazy circumstances make them enemies.

Dongemaharu on March 11, 2013 at 8:59 PM

Wasn’t Martinez part of the group that slaughtered the Army Reserve guys? He’s not exactly someone I would want to get to know.

Blake on March 11, 2013 at 9:05 PM

Ugh, blogger wants major character killed every episode. Man, people are just hard to please these days.

The two things I liked about the episode was the hidden gun the Gov had taped to the table, keeping tensions high during a long conversation. Smart move. Even better was the conversation with Daryl and the other guy. That goes deeper than most of the story. Two guys who have a lot of the same problems and needs, but these crazy circumstances make them enemies.

Then you had plenty on baseball bat crushing, Rambo knife throwing, arrow piercing zombie killing to satisfy the gore crowd.

Dongemaharu on March 11, 2013 at 8:59 PM

It was an interesting episode for the reasons you gave with the only silly part being the sex scene.

The previous episode bringing back Morgan was fantastic – a bit of a warning to Rick on what one future could be, perhaps?

Still leagues ahead of most things on TV.

kim roy on March 11, 2013 at 9:05 PM

Marchonne is not gonna let herself be given up that easily, she seems too savvy for that.

I can see her and Merle teaming up, perhaps.

There are so many ‘what ifs’ in this story, too many things left unsaid and undone…

Glenns’ character has been just filler of late…

If the baby was killed, that would be the end of Rick.

And the zombies just keep coming and coming.

Somthing spectacular has to happen to hook us in for more…

Somthing unthinkable…

Somthing so evil and devious…

I don’t know what that could be!

I like the show!

Scrumpy on March 11, 2013 at 9:06 PM

I’m seeing the baby dying as well. It’s just too impractical to have a group surrounded by danger having to practice noise discipline also toting along an infant who could start crying at a moment’s notice.

Last night’s episode wasn’t that bad. Short on splatter but there was some real character development. It was like the early rounds of a heavyweight prize fight where they’re just feeling each other out before they start throwing haymakers. Plus we get to see if Rick is snapped out of it enough to see through the Governor’s ploy, or if Herschel (or Carl!) needs to shoot him in the back for all their sakes.

And if Daryl dies we riot!

alchemist19 on March 11, 2013 at 9:06 PM

Rick does not needed to hand over Michonne, she has earned the right to choose if she wants the mission. She is not Rick’s prisoner or his ward to protect. If she does what the other one did in the Comics the Governor will not be around in the next season. In the comics they has more core characters to kill then the TV show. They might say there are “red shits” in the core group but there might not be.

When they wrote this season they wrote it for 13 episodes and then AMC gave them 16. They needed to stretch some episodes.

tjexcite on March 11, 2013 at 9:09 PM

I can’t imagine them spending next season at the prison. They could take over Woodbury but it’s less safe than the prison.

Blake on March 11, 2013 at 9:10 PM

$20 says Martinez off’s the governor, the only two people who want to have a war are Rick and Phillip

RizzyG on March 11, 2013 at 9:12 PM

It was an interesting episode for the reasons you gave with the only silly part being the sex scene.
kim roy on March 11, 2013 at 9:05 PM

Can’t disagree on that. I was rolling my eyes. “Yeah ok, they got the horn for each other.” Sex scenes are definitely filler. Luckily, the ones with the Governor and Andrea were just implied.

By the way, the lesson of Andrea couldn’t be more profound. Well-intentioned person tries the bi-partisan way, only to get screwed over and possibly make things worse. How often do we see this in politics?! Er, I mean how often do Republicans go down this road?

Dongemaharu on March 11, 2013 at 9:12 PM

The battle will rage. And M will get captured/cut off from thethe group rather than killed outright. The hanger will be whether they try to rescue/save her and the dilemma between Hershel and Rick.

Or maybe not.

Jason Coleman on March 11, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Scrumpy on March 11, 2013 at 9:06 PM

Michonne. Michonne.

I suspect Tyreese will be the one to kill the guv. Him or Andrea.

Lanceman on March 11, 2013 at 9:16 PM

Lanceman on March 11, 2013 at 9:16 PM

Hi!! Good to see you :-)… Hope all is well with you!

If anyone, I would say Andrea will kill him, she almost did!

I was like, do it girl do it!! Lol…

Scrumpy on March 11, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Scrumpy on March 11, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Still pissed over the election. And to top it off, this nonsense presents itself

Lanceman on March 11, 2013 at 9:20 PM

I played the Walking Dead on my phone today, its like the show, 95% of the time nothing happens. Big excitement today, I built a fence.

rob verdi on March 11, 2013 at 9:20 PM

I have never watched the show, but every time I see this local commercial, I wish I’d jumped on the bandwagon at the start!

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on March 11, 2013 at 9:22 PM

You forgot to mention the Glenn/Maggie sex scene.

Talk about filler.

sentinelrules on March 11, 2013 at 8:50 PM

No Condom! We got another baby on the Way!

Bulletchaser on March 11, 2013 at 9:23 PM

Piss off, haters. This show is 10x better than Keeping Up with the (Long name family) and all the rest of the garbage out there. The last 3 episodes Glenn was very poorly dealing with Maggie’s being violated by the Gov; the sex scene was the closure on that.

Last weeks episode was Carl and Michonne bonding, which was significant.

Rather than go on and write a book here, I’ll just sum it by saying that there needs to be equal parts character development and plot advancement. If you don’t have the former, you don’t care about the latter. Unless you’re one of those action-movie lovers where a car chase turns into a boat chase turns into Arnold in an fighter jet blowing up a bridge, in which case, you aren’t the target audience for TWD. Don’t like it, don’t watch it.

Jackalope on March 11, 2013 at 9:24 PM

How to watch Walking Dead

1. DVR half a season

2. Wait until the second half gets close to the end

3. Watch the first half season episodes at second or third speed. Stop for what you find interesting. So 12 hours will take closer to 6, depending on what you like.

4. DVR the second half. Repeat the week before the finally.

5. Watch Finally.

6. Done

Now, you just saved countless hours of your life from watching the most meandering, repetitive, uncompelling, overhyped storylines since Lost.

7. You’re welcome. Place tips in the jar.

budfox on March 11, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Lanceman on March 11, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Ditto! So much stuff going on it all irks my ire!!

Yeah, are they really that dumb? Or what?

You have been missed my friend, pop in to the qotd if you’ve a mind to!

Scrumpy on March 11, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Comic book Andrea would kill TV Andrea. TV Andrea sucks

Jackalope on March 11, 2013 at 9:25 PM

No reason to hand over Michonne since the governor is going to attack anyway, either now (which we know from the final scene at Woodbury this episode) or later on as he simply can’t stomach anyone else existing outside his control. The only way any of the group can survive him is if they shot Rick and handed Merle and Michonne over to him for “dental work”. Since that’s not going to happen, we’re back to war.

As for the baby, I figure she’s toast. The governor kills her in the comics and since being on the run with a squirming zombie dinner bell crying all the time is impractical, toast. I keep thinking Hershel’s younger daughter is ripe for the ax. Any one of the other major characters but Rick might go for the shock factor.

jnelchef on March 11, 2013 at 9:26 PM

I am gonna be pissed if there isn’t all hell breaking lose on the show next week. It’s been 3 weeks of pretty much nothing.

If you are the writer who do you have kill the Governor?

Rick: Obvious choice, leader vs leader.

Andrea: Perfect betrayal while showing she still has loyalty to the other group.

Maggie: Revenge for the way she was treated.

Glen: Boyfriend revenge.

Michone: The first one who really knew what the guy was about.

Merle: Another type of ultimate betrayal.

Carl: Getting whacked by a kid is the ultimate in humiliation.

The Notorious G.O.P on March 11, 2013 at 9:28 PM

By the way, the lesson of Andrea couldn’t be more profound. Well-intentioned person tries the bi-partisan way, only to get screwed over and possibly make things worse. How often do we see this in politics?! Er, I mean how often do Republicans go down this road?

Dongemaharu on March 11, 2013 at 9:12 PM

Most action characters and superheros are usually conservatives. They very rarely wait for the government to save them.

The Atlantic has a discussion about the series and places it into political talk and this was interesting:

Allow me to introduce another subject into the mix: The show’s increasingly obvious political conservatism. Andrea, the civil-liberties lawyer of dubious character, ventures to the prison from Woodbury on a misguided mission to make peace between Rick and the Governor. Andrea, like any good liberal, believes that dialogue between two warring parties will inevitably lead to understanding and compromise. “I cannot excuse or explain what Phillip has done but I am here trying to bring us together,” she tells Rick, who answers, “There’s nothing to work out. We’re going to kill him.” This exchange echoes a common debate we have in post-9/11 America: Can we come to agreement with Iran/the Muslim Brotherhood/the Taliban — take your pick. These debates are interesting, in part, because, though we can have our obvious suspicions (as I do) about the incapacity of, say, the Iranian regime to compromise with the United States, we cannot know with 100 percent certainty whether such compromise is, in fact, impossible, because we have only an imperfect understanding of Iran and its leaders.


Jeffrey Goldberg link here

It wouldn’t surprise me if there is an honest conservative tinge to the show, though, with how irritating they made Dale and ineffectual Andrea.

kim roy on March 11, 2013 at 9:29 PM

I’ll add, Rick was hoping Hershel would talk him out of handing Michonne over but I think Carl is the one who would tell Rick to pound sand on that. Now that he sees Michonne as part of the group, he won’t allow her to be sacrificed. He’s pretty black and white at this point.

jnelchef on March 11, 2013 at 9:29 PM

Jackalope on March 11, 2013 at 9:25 PM

Not read the comic book…

I still think Andrea will off the guv…

If not her then Marchonne…

Scrumpy on March 11, 2013 at 9:29 PM

Scrumpy on March 11, 2013 at 9:24 PM

The wind was tooken from my sails. It will come back one day.

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on March 11, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Look. I never watched it before a month ago. I was bored to death and just flipped the tele to The Green Mile Channel hoping to catch something good. It was a WD marathon. After one episode, I stayed up to the wee hours of the morning watching it.

Wait for a marathon. You MUST see it from the beginning.

Lanceman on March 11, 2013 at 9:29 PM

kim roy on March 11, 2013 at 9:29 PM

Dale getting bit was bogus. Darabont uses him in a lot of his movies.

Lanceman on March 11, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Rick’s conversation makes no sense:

1. The gov plans on killing them all whether they turn over Michonne or not.

2. Michonne is a valuable fighter and they need her.

Glenn is second in command most of the time and first when Rick is gone, so he is hardly “filler.”

Blake on March 11, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Either kill Andrea or have her kill the Governor.

John the Libertarian on March 11, 2013 at 9:34 PM

I’d off Glenn just because I want Maggie for myself. But his fight with the walker when he was tied to the chair was pretty epic.

John the Libertarian on March 11, 2013 at 9:35 PM

Amy and Judith and maybe Herschel will get whacked in the season finale.

Blake on March 11, 2013 at 9:36 PM

I have never watched the show, but every time I see this local commercial, I wish I’d jumped on the bandwagon at the start!

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on March 11, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Sign up for Netflix free preview, watch the first two seasons RIGHT NOW. You’ll thank me in 12 hours when you’re done. :)

alchemist19 on March 11, 2013 at 9:37 PM

Lanceman on March 11, 2013 at 9:29 PM

I hope the wind comes back!! :-)

Frustrating as it is, don’t give up eh?

I wish you all the best, God Bless you…

Scrumpy on March 11, 2013 at 9:38 PM

John the Libertarian on March 11, 2013 at 9:35 PM

Oh yeah that was pretty cool!!

Scrumpy on March 11, 2013 at 9:38 PM

Either kill Andrea or have her kill the Governor.

John the Libertarian on March 11, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Can we do both?

alchemist19 on March 11, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Thank you, Scrumper.

Lanceman on March 11, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Lanceman on March 11, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Always :-)

Scrumpy on March 11, 2013 at 9:43 PM

Screw the haters. Walking Dead season 3 has been awesome.

El_Terrible on March 11, 2013 at 9:50 PM

What? They’re finally going to cancel it? About time.

SWalker on March 11, 2013 at 8:46 PM

Yes. They’re going to cancel the highest rated cable TV drama. Because you don’t like it. Good call, bro!

MikeknaJ on March 11, 2013 at 8:50 PM

It’s an incredibly crappy show, that anyone likes it, only proves that they have the IQ of a Democrat. Ok, that might be a little low, a Zombies IQ then.

SWalker on March 11, 2013 at 9:59 PM

It’s an incredibly crappy show, that anyone likes it, only proves that they have the IQ of a Democrat. Ok, that might be a little low, a Zombies IQ then.

SWalker on March 11, 2013 at 9:59 PM

Dude, you’re just wrong on this.

Jackalope on March 11, 2013 at 10:07 PM

SWalker on March 11, 2013 at 9:59 PM

Hmmmmmph…

Scrumpy on March 11, 2013 at 10:07 PM

It’s an incredibly crappy show, that anyone likes it, only proves that they have the IQ of a Democrat. Ok, that might be a little low, a Zombies IQ then.

SWalker on March 11, 2013 at 9:59 PM

We prefer to call them walkers.

Lanceman on March 11, 2013 at 10:09 PM

Spoiler Alert!

Actually I have to say I did like what the Director was doing, putting everyone in pairs and letting the tension play out.

Matinez and Daryl were like two Sentries from different Armies stumbling on each other in the dark. At first they try to out impress one another, then they talk a little, share a cigarette, and then finally one says regretfully, “Well I guess our bastard commanding officers will be having us fight tomorrow and then the other says, “yep”….They part respectfully.

Hershel and the Gov’s Lieutenant was funny, because I couldn’t figure out what these guys would talk about, while avoiding the real issue. Hershel’s line, “Well, you should at least buy me a drink first!” snapped the tension just right, with the Lt. guy trying to figure out the joke, then getting it, then uncomfortably laughing…awesome.

Rick and the Gov faceoff was perfect. Rick, still clinging to reason, the Gov. as mad as a Hatter. That single grey eye in the sun is chilling.

Poorly done was the Maggie/Glen makeup scene. Their conversation was so stilted and poorly done, I began to think we were back in season one with another “Lori needs to talk relationship” beat. Glen got the crap beaten out of him, Maggie got her shirt taken off and terrorized for a few minutes. She should have been sucking the blood out of Glens bruises and thanking Glen for his strength. Instead she has a pity party on her bed while Glen fights pain and responsibility and kills a few walkers.

The Glen/Merle face-off was awful. Any of the other of the group should have been covering them and let Merle know if it went to blows he would never be getting up from a rifle round in the back.

Instead Glen got beaten AGAIN. Merle is too loose a cannon. He was fine making nice and being the enforcer for a madman, but the moment he is in a group that needs calm sage advice he challenges the third in command and attacks him. Note for Director: No gun person leaves 20 guns, grenades, boxes and belts of ammo, flares etc dropped on a table in a huge pile. People tease gun guys about their neatness with weapons as through it was a sickness. Let me tell you, Accidents happen that way. Sloppy gun handling and a trigger gets bumped and someone loses a leg or their life. With explosives it is even more important and Mr. Grenade is not your friend when his pin is pulled; whether it is pulled because you are ready to throw it or because some one snatched up a weapon (without checking I might add) from a mishmash pile and the pin comes out and the little handle goes “Sprong!”.

Good Show!

Bulletchaser on March 11, 2013 at 10:09 PM

AP, it’s gotten to the point where I can’t finish reading your posts about TWD. Opinions I disagree with are bad enough. But uninformed opinions just drive me up the wall. I realize you probably haven’t read the comic. You should at least familiarize yourself with it if you’re going to speculate about the TV show. Because it’s important. I’ve read Glen Mazzara won’t be returning as showrunner next season partially because of the comic. It’s important.

Scopper on March 11, 2013 at 10:19 PM

It’s an incredibly crappy show, that anyone likes it, only proves that they have the IQ of a Democrat. Ok, that might be a little low, a Zombies IQ then.

SWalker on March 11, 2013 at 9:59 PM

Spoken like a liberal….If you don’t agree with me then you are dumb.

The Notorious G.O.P on March 11, 2013 at 10:27 PM

My take.

Walkers/Libs. Feeding off the remains of a once thriving country.

The Govs group/RINOs. Attempting to eliminate possible allies and retake
control of things.

Ricks group/CONs. Just trying to stay alive to fight another day.

Lummox on March 11, 2013 at 10:32 PM

Great, no we’ve got everybody calling everybody else Liberal. Low blows, my friends.

Jackalope on March 11, 2013 at 10:32 PM

Not sure how Michonne will end up next to him, but she will kill the shyte out of the Gov.

LtGenRob on March 11, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Think of the Governor as Obama. He tells you he only wants Michonne/End Bush tax cuts for millionaires, and that if you give it to him, he’ll drop everything else against you and leave you alone.

Of course, we know its a lie. He’s still going to gun everyone down.

So what do you do? Gear up and prepare to fight.

El_Terrible on March 11, 2013 at 11:03 PM

No matter what you may think of “The Walking Dead”, it’s better than the Korean dramas or bad celebrity karaoke on Filipino television.

Thank G*d for the internet.

Timothy S. Carlson on March 11, 2013 at 11:06 PM

Think of the Governor as Obama.

El_Terrible on March 11, 2013 at 11:03 PM

I think of the Governor as that clown from ‘The Postman’.

A petty little man with delusions of grandeur in a post-apocalyptic world.

His comment to Rick “I was taking orders from a superior half my age and even lower IQ…”

To the Guv, it’s payback time. For all those pissants that ever talked down to him.

Lanceman on March 11, 2013 at 11:07 PM

It’s an incredibly crappy show, that anyone likes it, only proves that they have the IQ of a Democrat. Ok, that might be a little low, a Zombies IQ then.

SWalker on March 11, 2013 at 9:59 PM

So what does that say about the person who goes on a messaage board just to comment about how much they don’t like it?

Especially all the way into season 3.

John Deaux on March 11, 2013 at 11:11 PM

Maggie’s sister will die.
The baby will die
Darryl will die.

portlandon on March 11, 2013 at 11:14 PM

I think jnelchef’s prediction of the baby being killed is probably correct. But because no one’s emotionally invested in the baby, they’ll need to kill off one or two of the regulars (like they did at the end of Season 2). I wouldn’t mind seeing Meryl get off’ed, he deserves it.

If the Governor is still alive in the comics, he’ll still be around for Season 4. One of the other things I heard that happened in the comics is the Governor slicing off Rick’s arm or hand or something. Maybe they’ll work that into one of the final 3 episodes.

SheVee on March 11, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Glenn recently died in the comics, actually. But, of course, the comics are far ahead of the show. They’re scheduled to go to D.C. next if they follow the comics. They’re currently living in a settlement in Alexandria, Virginia in the comics. That’s where Glenn dies. He married Maggie, and she is currently pregnant with his child.

Daryl isn’t even in the comics. Neither is his brother. Hershel didn’t even lose his leg in the comics.

BigWillieStyles on March 11, 2013 at 11:22 PM

I’m amazed that there are so many that hate this show that are so nuanced on the ins and outs of it.
I don’t know why I dislike Honey Boo Boo, seeing as I have never watched a single episode. But then, I’m not nuanced on it either.

Lummox on March 11, 2013 at 11:32 PM

Yes, Daryl is still a “major” character (a major character does not have to have lines every single ep or appear every single ep), and as they’ve been on the show a long time now, so too are Hershel, Maggie, Glenn, and Carol.

I don’t think the group is as static as Allah Pundit makes it sound.

The show keeps replenishing the group by adding new people every so often.

They lost Dale, Shane, Ed, the guy with the mustache (left to die under a tree), and the lady at the CDC, but they later picked up Hershel and his daughters.

Rick’s group took on Axel and Oscar, who both died.

There’s no reason Morgan couldn’t join them.

I don’t mind the Carol character on her own, but the internet is absolutely over ridden (on other sites) by middle aged women who desperately want to see Carol become Daryl’s girl friend (a pairing that they dubbed “Caryl”), which I do not want to see happen, at all.

For that reason alone (the swooning over “Caryl” that is all over the internet on any blogs that discuss Walking Dead), I am hoping her character gets bumped off.

AP said,

When you paint yourself in the corner by making the story of the zombie apocalypse a soap opera about a small bunch of characters, some of whom are bound to end up as indispensable,

Who says any of them are indispensable? Seemy reasons above.

Michonne was introduced around the end of season 2.

Tyrese and his band of survivors could have been added to Rick’s group, and they were just introduced about three or four episodes ago.

Even if Rick’s present group all gets killed, he can make new friends in the ZA, and he’s made new friends here and there up to now.

Also, how else is one to put on a show about the ZA without a small bunch of survivors? There’s really no other compelling (note I used the word “compelling”) way to tell the story.

As much as I love zombies, it would be a bore having non stop zombie attacks on show after show (no characters), or small sketches of characters we don’t know well, different ones each week, fighting zombies each show.

TigerPaw on March 11, 2013 at 11:38 PM

It sure was a talk fest. Maybe they can rename it “The Talking Dead”.

cozmo on March 11, 2013 at 8:46 PM
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This season has been pretty boring if you ask me.

F15Mech on March 11, 2013 at 8:55 PM

That’s the same exact criticism people were leveling at the show season 2 on the farm, but people kept tuning in, and here we are in season 3, and it’s one of the top highest rated shows on tv, cable and network.

I have to say, I am soooo glad I never started watching this snoozer.

Warner Todd Huston on March 11, 2013 at 8:49 PM

How do you know it’s a snoozer if you’ve never watched it?

Andrea is finally in control (which is what she always wanted)

Revenant on March 11, 2013 at 8:49 PM

I never got that vibe from her.

The only ones who wanted to be in charge were Merle, Shane, and lately Glenn, and Rick announced they were no longer in a democracy.

But Andrea never cared about being in charge herself(not in the sense that she is power hungry). She spent a lot of time being afraid, and mourning over her sister, learning how to protect herself, etc.

You forgot to mention the Glenn/Maggie sex scene.

Talk about filler.

sentinelrules on March 11, 2013 at 8:50 PM

I didn’t care for that scene either, or much of their relationship in general, in season 2 or now.

The characters are fine separately, but their pairing feels false and doesn’t seem to add much to the story lines of the show.

TigerPaw on March 11, 2013 at 11:49 PM

Michonne. Michonne.

I suspect Tyreese will be the one to kill the guv. Him or Andrea.

Lanceman on March 11, 2013 at 9:16 PM

I wonder if Milton the (nerdy, scientist-like guy who wears glasses, advisor to Gov) will be the one to kill the Gov?

In the past show or two, Milton seems to be waking up to what an evil, crazy guy Gov is.

Milton was at first depicted as a pansy, cowardly kind of guy, too afraid to cross the Gov or stand up to him, but in the last show or two, he actually began questioning him on a few points, and Milton is willing to aid Andrea in her plots to get the Gov.

Every one wants to see one of the females (Michonne, Maggie, or Andrea) kill Gov, and the show’s writers seem to be setting up Rick or Merle for it, but I think Milton would be an interesting choice.

TigerPaw on March 11, 2013 at 11:58 PM

Darryl will die.

portlandon on March 11, 2013 at 11:14 PM

NO WAY Daryl gets killed off. He’s a major cult favorite…esp with the ladies. No way.

Jackalope on March 12, 2013 at 12:00 AM

Comic book Andrea would kill TV Andrea. TV Andrea sucks

Jackalope on March 11, 2013 at 9:25 PM

I haven’t read the comics, but I like TV Andrea just fine, other than she keeps picking horrible boyfriends.

TigerPaw on March 12, 2013 at 12:02 AM

AP, gotta disagree with you again here. Everything, except maybe for the gratuitous sex scene (though it was fun) has a meaning here. Don’t be so impatient for it to get there. The show’s not made like a microwave, it’s a slow cooker.

john1schn on March 12, 2013 at 12:18 AM

I haven’t read the comics, but I like TV Andrea just fine, other than she keeps picking horrible boyfriends.

TigerPaw on March 12, 2013 at 12:02 AM

I like her boyfriends just fine. They all end up dead.

john1schn on March 12, 2013 at 12:19 AM

kim roy on March 11, 2013 at 9:29 PM

Very interesting. Like a lot of great horror and science fiction the story is often an allegory of contemporary society to some degree. In this case, I think there’s a lot political subtext going on.

Whether the writer of the comic book is in any way conservative, I have no idea. Sometimes many of these writers stumble across conservative messages accidentally in service of the story or to sell it to red state America.

Dongemaharu on March 12, 2013 at 12:21 AM

Much as I love The Walking Dead, and much as I’ve loved and encouraged the HA threads about it, I can no longer read the comics.

I do not want to know what happened in the comic books. Those are spoilers. Just because it may not happen in the TV series makes them no less spoilers.

Thanks for nothin, fella who told what happened in the comics. That hadn’t occurred to me, and I didn’t want it to. I stopped reading there, and won’t read these threads again.

Alana on March 12, 2013 at 12:42 AM

Can no longer read the threads, I meant in my first sentence.

Alana on March 12, 2013 at 12:42 AM

Haha, yeah. I was watching that gratuitous scene WTH remote in hand ready to fast forward through it but though for sure that a walker was going to come through a door or that Merle was watching. But nothing happened and it was just gratuitous and pointless.

Charlemagne on March 11, 2013 at 8:55 PM

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Well watching the freakin show with 2 teenage boys- The damn remote was no where to be found. WTF ? Sex and zombies………who knew.
I don’t think my rant about an oversexed Hollywood and their soft porn gratuity for their audiences was as distracting as I needed it to be to compete with the lusty groaning and gyrations I had to endure in surround sound.

Is this where were going?

Archie Bunker was right. Carnival instinctuals is taking over.

FlaMurph on March 12, 2013 at 12:42 AM

FlaMurph on March 12, 2013 at 12:42 AM

It is TV-MA for a reason.

john1schn on March 12, 2013 at 12:52 AM

One of the most unbelievable relationships on TV.

CW on March 11, 2013 at 8:57 PM

Actually it is one of the relationships that “do” makes sense.
They both clearly support each other,and love each other. And
outside the premarital activity, they are a stable couple who look really good together and have the same values. Another point,Glenn remember is the guy who has the best survival instincts and saved Rick. Since they are not really holding true to the comic book, he may and Maggie will make it to the end of the series alive.

dec5 on March 12, 2013 at 2:32 AM

Here’s my prediction. Rick’s posse takes sniper shots at Phil’s group at the time and place for turning over Michonne. Governor loses maybe 3 or 4 guys, goes back to town and displays the corpses to his town of cowards and lowlifes, gets them all riled up to attack the prison. They immediately march forth like a bunch of Wall Street Occupiers pouring out of Minas Morgul. All 50 of them or whatever. Battle commences on the field outside the prison, except that the Governor’s decidedly superior seige abilities turn the tide greatly in Woodbury’s favor. Team Rick loses one useful character and one useless one during the battle, Carol and Herschel probably. But then the Governor breaches the prison and immediately kills Amy, and the baby she was holding. This attrocity causes his own remaining forces to mutiny against him. Meanwhile, the Governors reckless tactics have broken down all barriers the the zombies, and the conflict itself has drawn the attention of every walker in a 5 mile radius. The remainder of the governor’s town is eaten by the zombies, and the zombies close in on the positions of Rick and his allies. End season.

Daikokuco on March 12, 2013 at 2:33 AM

BTW, It may be Merle that sacrifices himself for his brother and saves the group from the Governor. It would be a great way to redeem himself.

dec5 on March 12, 2013 at 2:35 AM

Here’s my prediction. Rick’s posse takes sniper shots at Phil’s group at the time and place for turning over Michonne. Governor loses maybe 3 or 4 guys, goes back to town and displays the corpses to his town of cowards and lowlifes, gets them all riled up to attack the prison. They immediately march forth like a bunch of Wall Street Occupiers pouring out of Minas Morgul. All 50 of them or whatever. Battle commences on the field outside the prison, except that the Governor’s decidedly superior seige abilities turn the tide greatly in Woodbury’s favor. Team Rick loses one useful character and one useless one during the battle, Carol and Herschel probably. But then the Governor breaches the prison and immediately kills Amy, and the baby she was holding. This attrocity causes his own remaining forces to mutiny against him. Meanwhile, the Governors reckless tactics have broken down all barriers the the zombies, and the conflict itself has drawn the attention of every walker in a 5 mile radius. The remainder of the governor’s town is eaten by the zombies, and the zombies close in on the positions of Rick and his allies. End season.

Daikokuco on March 12, 2013 at 2:33 AM

That is about what happens in the comic book.

dec5 on March 12, 2013 at 2:38 AM

Here’s my prediction. Rick’s posse takes sniper shots at Phil’s group at the time and place for turning over Michonne. Governor loses maybe 3 or 4 guys, goes back to town and displays the corpses to his town of cowards and lowlifes, gets them all riled up to attack the prison. They immediately march forth like a bunch of Wall Street Occupiers pouring out of Minas Morgul. All 50 of them or whatever. Battle commences on the field outside the prison, except that the Governor’s decidedly superior seige abilities turn the tide greatly in Woodbury’s favor. Team Rick loses one useful character and one useless one during the battle, Carol and Herschel probably. But then the Governor breaches the prison and immediately kills Amy, and the baby she was holding. This attrocity causes his own remaining forces to mutiny against him. Meanwhile, the Governors reckless tactics have broken down all barriers the the zombies, and the conflict itself has drawn the attention of every walker in a 5 mile radius. The remainder of the governor’s town is eaten by the zombies, and the zombies close in on the positions of Rick and his allies. End season.

Daikokuco on March 12, 2013 at 2:33 AM

I like this. I noticed Maggie with the sniper rifle with the bipod. Hope she gets a few.

Bulletchaser on March 12, 2013 at 3:09 AM

My favorite fast-forward serial. WD is a guilty pleasure as long as I can zoom thru the uniformly dismal and interminable “relationship” scenes. The setting and the zombies are very well done, and some of the characters are interestingly portrayed – Scott Wilson’s, Hershel, mainly. But I keep hoping that Andrea will get bitten and turn, just for the pleasure of seeing her head explode.

Randy

williars on March 12, 2013 at 7:12 AM

I got Netflix and watched the first season in one weekend after my son bugged the crap out of me. That way I was ready for season 2. It was definitely worth it and I’m a middle aged woman who shouldn’t find this stuff exciting.

What’s up with all the Asian B movies on Netflix. It seems their entire collection of movies is made up of crap no one would watch except in Chinatown.

jaimo on March 12, 2013 at 7:56 AM

Here’s what I’d like to see as to resolution for this season:

CARL ki**s the Governor.

Rick doesn’t, Michonne doesn’t, no, it’s CARL who does the deed. Protects his dad, protects his people. Carl does it.

Lourdes on March 12, 2013 at 8:06 AM

I’m still finding the character of Rick Grimes to be very interesting, not to mention very well performed by actor Andrew Lincoln.

It got more than a little threadbare as to enthusiasm and watchability when Rick was wandering the border of the Prison engaged in hallucinations or perhaps inspiration-by-delusional-visions…

…but the character is again engaging us in some astute (yet very subtle, granted) manipulations of all the rest of the characters and I’m finding this level of “supra-intrigue” taking place to be, well, intriguing as viewer.

I like Season 3 (this current one) and I now want the Governor to be as gone as everyone else. I liked the brief confrontation Rick made to the Governor in the last Episode, that (so Rick told him), he was nothing more than the town drunk ruining his yard or something like that.

Rick’s cop-nature at it’s finest. But I still think it’d be an excellent moment in this story if it was Rick’s son, Carl, who appears to do the final deed as to the Governor. ::Blam::, Carl’s the man of the Season.

Lourdes on March 12, 2013 at 8:12 AM

Apparently nobody has picked up on the fact, that if the Gov and his leading guys are killed, then Rick has 40 something “red shirts” to drag around for more zombie munching fun.

BTW, if I was Rick, the second Martinze closed the door, I would have had Daryle put a crossbow bolt into the back of his head. What would Milton have done? Pee’d in his pants? Hershel could easily have taken him out, just projecting the violation and threat of his daughter onto Milton. Then Rick should dispatch the governor. Andrea or Meryl could have easily told Rick that there were only a handful of fighters in the town and only a couple of real leaders, which would now be dead.

Ohhhh, that’s right…. nobody talks to each other. Hey, here’s an important tid bit, the towns people can’t hit a standing walker from a barricade. The town’s people are a bunch of whiney sheep.

LoganSix on March 12, 2013 at 8:16 AM

I’ve read that the filmmakers advise us, the audience, not to expect the filmed rendition of this story to match or follow expressly the original tale from the comics of the same title.

BUT, in the comics, the only characters that survive to the start of Next Season (4) — that is, who don’t meet their end or wander off, whichever, at the end of this Season 3, are:

Rick, Carl, Andrea, Glenn, Maggie and MAYBE Daryl (though I’m not sure about Daryl from the comic story, however would like to see him continue throughout the Series).

The Governor dies and in the comic book tale, so do Carol, Herschel and Beth. I don’t know what they’re going to do with Daryl and Merle…

Lourdes on March 12, 2013 at 8:19 AM

I forgot Michone. She continues through to next Season, at least in the comic, or so I THINK.

Lourdes on March 12, 2013 at 8:20 AM

I got Netflix and watched the first season in one weekend after my son bugged the crap out of me. That way I was ready for season 2. It was definitely worth it and I’m a middle aged woman who shouldn’t find this stuff exciting.

jaimo on March 12, 2013 at 7:56 AM

This Series is best viewed ON DEMAND or on DVD/Netflix/purchased and without the commercial breaks that are on the live broadcasts on AMC.

Before Season 3 started, I watched (again) Seasons 1 and 2 on AMC ON DEMAND and that way watched the whole story through without breaks.

HOWEVER, by the next day when Season 3 premiered, I was entirely peaked on the gory violence, having forgotten how brutal so much of this is before I watched the first two Seasons ON DEMAND.

It’s just easier to enjoy the whole story straight through without the commercial breaks and waiting a week from one Episode to the next but then, all television Series are like that (Sopranoes, House, etc.).

Lourdes on March 12, 2013 at 8:24 AM

You gain nothing by paying the danegeld in giving up Michonne. On the contrary, you lose a fearless warrior and you sow paranoia in the rest of the group that you’ll sell them out next. The only compelling solution to the problem under the circumstances would be for Rick to sell her out whereupon someone else in the group

RICK WON’T DO THAT. He’s already taken Michonne into the group, as has the group itself accepted her. Even Carl, the most reticent among them, has found her an impressive and acceptable addition to their “people”.

Rick’s playing out scenarios by asking Herschel what he thinks about trading Michonne…that’s all Rick’s doing. But he won’t do that.

The Governor showed himself to be weak and flimsy with his huffy, egotistical insults to Rick in their “sit down” in the last Episode and Rick’s got the upper hand as to who is more confident, more capable, more decent, if such can be said about anyone at this point in the demise of humanity…

Lourdes on March 12, 2013 at 8:28 AM

Video: “Walking Dead” getting closer to having something interesting happen

What? They’re finally going to cancel it? About time.

SWalker on March 11, 2013 at 8:46 PM

There’s supposedly two more Seasons (4 and 5) to come.

Lourdes on March 12, 2013 at 8:29 AM

This season has been a huge improvement over Season 2 which was BORING! Michonne is a major character in the comics so I don’t see how she can be killed since they are loosely following the comic. My guess is Glenn is the major character that dies along with the Gov. Here’s a link to a Wiki for the comic and the TV show to compare the differences, spoiler alert of course.

Walking Dead Comic Series Characters

crazywater on March 12, 2013 at 8:48 AM

Video: “Walking Dead” getting closer to having something interesting happen
What? They’re finally going to cancel it? About time.

SWalker on March 11, 2013 at 8:46 PM
There’s supposedly two more Seasons (4 and 5) to come.

There’s no way in hell it gets cancelled. It’s the #1 rating cable show with 11-12 million viewers.

crazywater on March 12, 2013 at 8:50 AM

In the previous two Episodes (before this week’s Episode), did anyone else notice that Rick’s presence was somewhat diminished when Daryl was off with Merle (and not with Rick and group)?

Rick and group seemed so much less potent without Daryl with them.

And I realize how popular the character of Daryl is with the viewers so I question the notion of seeing Daryl ki**ed off with this Season (though his brother, Merle, gone would resolve that problem for the whole Series, Merle as Mad Dog agitator).

I think it’ll be Rick, Carl, Maggie, Glenn, Michonne, Andrea and possibly Daryl who’ll survive to Season 4.

Hershel and his daughter won’t make it, nor will Carol…from what I’m guessing.

Lourdes on March 12, 2013 at 8:55 AM

People who don’t like the boring talking parts and only want to see non-stop, meaningless action are either teenage boys or mongoloids. I’m so sorry, mongoloids. I’m so, so sorry.

Hannibal on March 12, 2013 at 10:15 AM

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