Soda jerks: NYC health inspectors to deploy with 17-ounce measuring cups tomorrow; Update: NY judge invalidates soda ban

posted at 3:46 pm on March 11, 2013 by Allahpundit

In a sane world, the moment Bloomberg found himself special-ordering custom-sized government-issued drinking glasses for city bureaucrats would have been the moment the fever broke and he realized that his stunningly successful career in finance and politics had ended in ruin and insanity. But no, apparently this is happening. Tomorrow.

Coming next: Size regulations on cup manufacturers?

The Health Department will begin implementing routine inspections to make sure eateries, including sit down restaurants and fast food chains, are not selling sugary beverages in servings larger than 16 ounces.

Those inspectors will have specially ordered measuring cups to help them enforce the new rule, Deputy Health Commissioner Daniel Kass said in an affidavit recently filed as part of the legal challenge to Bloomberg’s anti-big-soda policy…

‘The measuring cups that we will be issuing … will be able to contain 17 fluid ounces,’ Kass said. Inspectors will issue violations when a cup is found to ‘clearly exceed’ 16 ounces ‘when measured in the inspector’s measuring cup,’ he added.

There’s a profitable comedy to be made, probably starring Ben Stiller or Seth Rogen, about the life of an overzealous New York City soft-drink inspector and his mission to clean up the mean streets one fluid ounce at a time. And if you live in the city and you’re thinking about voting with your feet, bad news — the nanny-in-chief’s hoping to take this thing global:

“Everybody across this country should do it,” said Bloomberg, who has already called for the state to bar sugary soda over 16 ounces in stores.

And, he suggested, the crusade might not even stop there.

“In fact, obesity is a problem around the world,” he said. “It’s getting to be as serious if not more so than smoking.”

He said tough moves are necessary because the obesity epidemic will “bankrupt” the healthcare system – and, he suggested, because fat people can’t do their jobs as well as those in better shape.

Here’s the city’s fact sheet (in PDF form) to help restaurants, coffee shops, and convenient stores figure out if they’re bound by the new regulations or not. As was clear from the very beginning, the most arresting thing about Bloomberg’s ban is how haphazard it is. Jacob Sullum at Reason has a nice short dissection of that. Case in point: A 20-ounce black coffee is okay unless it has more than “about as much as three teaspoons” of sugar in it, although if half or more of the coffee is composed of milk (i.e. a latte) then the restaurant can add as much sugar as it likes because the nutritional value of milk somehow magically neutralizes the sugar and makes that concoction healthy-ish. (Sullum notes that a 60-calorie black coffee at Starbucks with four spoonfuls of sugar is banned while a milky 640-calorie large hot chocolate with whipped cream is fine.) But mind you, these restrictions apply only to the restaurant. If you like your coffee black and want a pound of sugar in there, no problem; just add the sugar yourself instead of asking Starbucks to do it behind the counter and you’re golden.

Another example? Okay: Bowling alleys, which you might visit once or twice a year if you’re an average New Yorker, are strictly bound by the city’s new regulations because they serve prepared food. Not bound: The neighborhood 7-11, which isn’t similarly regulated by the health department. That means that the fabled Big Gulp, the scourge of Bloomberg’s dream of shrinking waist sizes by shrinking sugary drinks, is still A-OK. But then, that’s likely by design. This scheme, like so many other liberal regulatory schemes these days, needs to fail in its objective so that more aggressive regulation can be undertaken. It’s win/win for Bloomberg. If there’s a very minor bit of weight loss among New Yorkers, that’s proof that this is “working” but could work better if he clamped down a bit more. If it doesn’t lead to weight loss, that’s proof that he needs to clamp down a lot more to make a dent. The fact that the ban is arbitrary isn’t a bug, it’s a feature.

Update: Apparently there is still such a thing as “too arbitrary.” Wow:

The city is “enjoined and permanently restrained from implementing or enforcing the new regulations,” New York Supreme Court Judge Milton Tingling decided Monday.

The regulations are “fraught with arbitrary and capricious consequences,” the judge wrote. “The simple reading of the rule leads to the earlier acknowledged uneven enforcement even within a particular city block, much less the city as a whole….the loopholes in this rule effectively defeat the state purpose of the rule.”

Looks like Bloomberg will have to move immediately to Plan B: More comprehensive regulation.


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Either the FBI is stupid enough to believe Jahar that he was going there to party, or Jahar was stupid enough to believe Tamerlan that they were going there to party. You don’t head to NY with a pressure cooker, home made grenades, firearms, and undisclosed other explosives in a stolen car after killing a cop to party; especially after seeing yourself in FBI photos on national television.

Who knows what they could have done. They easily could have dropped pressure cookers on a subway, gotten off, and used their grenades and guns in a rampage elsewhere in NY. The idea that they were going to go clubbing is crazy.

eski502 on April 24, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Epic fail by this administration

cmsinaz on April 24, 2013 at 5:34 PM

While I understand that someone who is consider a threat to the U.S. should be on every list we have, I don’t understand why we wouldn’t put him on a list to give Russia (or whatever country) a heads up if he is on the move.

Cindy Munford on April 24, 2013 at 5:36 PM

“The CIA’s request came months after the FBI had closed a preliminary inquiry into Tsarnaev after getting a similar inquiry about him from Russian state security…”

9/11 was allowed to happen because the Clinton administration built a wall between the CIA and the FBI…

… President Bush took that wall down.

With ‘Fast and Furious’, Benghazi, and all the other shenanagins Obowma has been running pretty loose with the law, I have little doubt that the wall is back up…

… and as a result, another terror attack in the U.S. and Americans are dead.

Seven Percent Solution on April 24, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Which FBI manual do you get this from?

verbaluce on April 24, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Did you just ask a conservative to provide proof of their paranoid conspiracies?

lester on April 24, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Was the CIA simply being cautious by tossing his name into the pile because the Russians had flagged it or did something new come to light after the FBI stopped looking at him?

I demand a Congressional investigation into the matter.
WHO was that person in CIA who went against the unspoken fatwa of the sultan of DC and insisted on profiling a potential jihady ?
WHO ?
Oh BTW, the CIA lies
/Nazi Policei

burrata on April 24, 2013 at 5:45 PM

The FBI is not allowed to consider violent Islam in the context of any investigation it does regarding potential threats.

Jabberwock on April 24, 2013 at 4:58 PM

Which FBI manual do you get this from?

verbaloon on April 24, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Er, that was a memo sent out in October of 2011 ordering all FBI manuals to remove any references to the possibly of Islamists committing terrorism.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/04/20/Flashback-FBI-Training-Manual-Purged-References-To-Islamic-Terror

The FBI insists to CBS that they took all the required steps that were permissable under the law. However, around the same time the bureau interviewed Tsarnaev, changes in the FBI training manual took place as well. The FBI’s own departmental counter-terrorism analytic lexicon was purged of key words that could reference Islamic terrorism. Words like Muslim, Islam, Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, and sharia were not mentioned once in the FBI’s counter-terrorism lexicon afterwards.

The FBI initially denied the existence of the document in 2012 until PJ Media’s Patrick Poole posted the unclassified doc in May of that year. Congressman Louie Gohmert (R-TX) took the issue to the House floor and excoriated the administration for allowing the changing of the training manual to happen.

Del Dolemonte on April 24, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Gorelick…

Walls…

Some assembly required.

catmman on April 24, 2013 at 5:49 PM

Which FBI manual do you get this from?

verbaluce on April 24, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Did you just ask a conservative to provide proof of their paranoid conspiracies?

lester, it’s time for your violin lesson! on April 24, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Del Dolemonte on April 24, 2013 at 5:48 PM

You’re exceedingly stupid, Nessman.

F-

Del Dolemonte on April 24, 2013 at 5:50 PM

But he said investigators don’t believe the brothers were headed to New York to “continue what they were doing.”

Of course the NYC Marathon isn’t until next fall. They would have plenty of time to get ready. Let’s all party.

chemman on April 24, 2013 at 5:55 PM

And some more:

Fri, Oct 21, 2011

Deputy U.S. Attorney General James Cole confirmed on Wednesday that the Obama administration was pulling back all training materials used for the law enforcement and national security communities, in order to eliminate all references to Islam that some Muslim groups have claimed are offensive.

“I recently directed all components of the Department of Justice to re-evaluate their training efforts in a range of areas, from community outreach to national security,” Cole told a panel at the George Washington University law school.

-snip-

Dwight C. Holton, the U.S. Attorney in Oregon said he had spoken with Holder directly about the issue of the terror training materials. Holton is the federal prosecutor who announced the arrest of so-called “Christmas tree bomber” Mohamed Osman Mohamud in 2010. That announcement made no mention of Mohamud’s Muslim faith.

“I want to be perfectly clear about this: training materials that portray Islam as a religion of violence or with a tendency towards violence are wrong, they are offensive, and they are contrary to everything that this president, this attorney general and Department of Justice stands for,” Holton said Wednesday. “They will not be tolerated.”

I think we’re done with this subject…

Del Dolemonte on April 24, 2013 at 5:55 PM

And here is the entire 2011 FBI unclassified document, removing those Naughty Words like “Islamist”. Enjoy!

http://www.scribd.com/doc/93235898/FBI-Counterterrorism-Analytical-Lexicon

Del Dolemonte on April 24, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Nice work, Del. lester got schooled… again.

John the Libertarian on April 24, 2013 at 6:06 PM

Undo the damage the Church Committee has done to Intelligence Organizations. The DHS and the FBI flat out CAN’T DO THE JOB.

Repeal the ban on CIA activities in the U.S.

It doesn’t matter how many Databases, how many different Departments there is: Luck and MSNBC is no way to fight a war on terror.

BDU-33 on April 24, 2013 at 6:07 PM

He partied in Cambridge after he and his bro detonated a few bombs, so I don’t find this unbelievable.

Buy Danish on April 24, 2013 at 5:30 PM

JMO, but it seems to me he tried to act “normally” in the days right after the bombing, whatever that meant for him, trying to avoid detection. But when their pictures were released and they knew it was just a matter of time before they would be apprehended, they shot a cop, stole a car, loaded up the car with guns and explosives, and were headed for NYC. I just don’t think it’s believable they were going to party.

mbs on April 24, 2013 at 6:08 PM

The idea that they were going to go clubbing is crazy.

eski502 on April 24, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Given that they had a bomb, guns and grenades it does seem unlikely that they were going to go clubbing, but they could have been intending to buy clubs en route.

YiZhangZhe on April 24, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Okay, which troll just got a new job? Is it verbaldouche or non-parmesan or Hotlips? — San Francisco Restores Taxpayer Funding for 6-Foot Tall Healthy Penis Mascot

slickwillie2001 on April 24, 2013 at 6:18 PM

verbaluce on April 24, 2013 at 5:32 PM

lester on April 24, 2013 at 5:43 PM

C’mon fellas, pick up your report cards, take them home and have mommy and daddy sign them.

BobMbx on April 24, 2013 at 6:20 PM

Report: Tsarnaev admits that he and brother were headed to New York; Update: To … party?
…in other words, they had WAY MORE American taxpayer welfare money to fund their islamofascist jihad, so why not do like most of the rest of the freeloaders and also party on our tax money?

TeaPartyNation on April 24, 2013 at 6:33 PM

“Party in NYC” is probably just a euphemism for “safe house”. Or do we really think he’d give a lead on the group funding their little jihad? Better to to let them think you’re insane than compromise the cell.

somewhatconcerned on April 24, 2013 at 6:35 PM

I think we’re done with this subject…
Del Dolemonte on April 24, 2013 at 5:55 PM

You offer a Breitbart link and then a bunch of stuff that doesn’t say/prove at all what you think it does…
Sure, we can be done.

verbaluce on April 24, 2013 at 6:37 PM

I just don’t think it’s believable they were going to party.
mbs on April 24, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Blow things up first, then party? Obviously he’s going to have to tell us where and with whom they planned to party, and where they planned to stay.

Buy Danish on April 24, 2013 at 6:39 PM

I understand killing infidels is ok under Islamic Jihad codes but isn’t partying supposed to be shunned under Islamic Jihad codes.

SparkPlug on April 24, 2013 at 6:48 PM

Which FBI manual do you get this from?
 
verbaluce on April 24, 2013 at 5:32 PM

 
Did you just ask a conservative to provide proof of their paranoid conspiracies?
 
lester on April 24, 2013 at 5:43 PM

 
And here is the entire 2011 FBI unclassified document, removing those Naughty Words like “Islamist”. Enjoy!
 
http://www.scribd.com/doc/93235898/FBI-Counterterrorism-Analytical-Lexicon
 
Del Dolemonte on April 24, 2013 at 5:59 PM

 
What an insightful post. That lester sure is a bright guy, and he’s 100% right about that topic.

rogerb on April 24, 2013 at 6:57 PM

Which FBI manual do you get this from?

verbaluce on April 24, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Did you just ask a conservative to provide proof of their paranoid conspiracies?

lester on April 24, 2013 at 5:43 PM

It’s time to pass on the one brain cell already? Oh, how time flies.

kim roy on April 24, 2013 at 7:01 PM

You offer a Breitbart link and then a bunch of stuff that doesn’t say/prove at all what you think it does…
Sure, we can be done.

verbaluce on April 24, 2013 at 6:37 PM

Let me help you wipe the drool off your shirt:

Go to Breitbart link. Look at article. WOOOO! More links in article, which include:

Washington Times

and

Official looking stuff

and

wow! a third link

You’re welcome.

kim roy on April 24, 2013 at 7:06 PM

Mayor Doomberg wouldn’t let them by a large soda.

alanstern on April 24, 2013 at 7:09 PM

You offer a Breitbart link and then a bunch of stuff that doesn’t say/prove at all what you think it does…
Sure, we can be done.
 
verbaluce on April 24, 2013 at 6:37 PM

 
Let me help you wipe the drool off your shirt:
 
Go to Breitbart link. Look at article. WOOOO! More links in article, which include:
 
Washington Times
 
and
 
Official looking stuff
 
and
 
wow! a third link
 
You’re welcome.
 
kim roy on April 24, 2013 at 7:06 PM

 
Now now, be nice. He’s owned up to having problems with long sentences before:
 
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/01/15/breaking-obama-to-announce-gun-control-proposals-tomorrow/comment-page-4/#comment-6649182
 
Who knows what to expect when you add in clickable links.

rogerb on April 24, 2013 at 7:15 PM

A cpl of radicalized murderous yahoos –
I don’t share your panic or your sweeping embellishments.
I see they had some successful explosions, but don’t grant them successful worldwide reverberations.

verbaluce on April 24, 2013 at 5:28 PM

Sweetie, a couple of terroristic acts, randomly done here and there and thus unpredictable, are purposely designed to panic the population and divert law enforcement.

Use your head for more than a hat rack.

onlineanalyst on April 24, 2013 at 7:15 PM

I understand killing infidels is ok under Islamic Jihad codes but isn’t partying supposed to be shunned under Islamic Jihad codes.

SparkPlug on April 24, 2013 at 6:48 PM

Yes, but you need to understand that all sins are forgiven to those who die in the cause of Islam. This is an important factor in understanding the Muslim mind.

Party and drugs = bad
Party and drugs + suicide bombing that kills kuffar = direct route to paradise.

Its a sacrificial offering by which Islamic sins can be forgotten, and the formula works for any sin, not just parties and drugs.

YiZhangZhe on April 24, 2013 at 7:19 PM

Was the CIA simply being cautious by tossing his name into the pile because the Russians had flagged it or did something new come to light after the FBI stopped looking at him?

Maybe the FBI and the CIA have different standards for assessing threats.

I’d need to see the chronology of events here, but did the Russian authorities hear back from the FBI with the neg dec on Tamerlan, so they appealed to the CIA to persuade the FBI to reverse their decision? It may not be something new that came to light. It may be that the Russians didn’t tell the FBI a reason which would clinch adding Tamerlan expecting that the FBI would find enough on theri own to add him to the list. How about a question here: Will Russian security tell the CIA things that they won’t tell the FBI?

Dusty on April 24, 2013 at 7:34 PM

I understand killing infidels is ok under Islamic Jihad codes but isn’t partying supposed to be shunned under Islamic Jihad codes.

SparkPlug on April 24, 2013 at 6:48 PM

Partying with women and drugs is allowed in islam as long as the moozie kills atleast onekafir.
If moozie doesn’t kill,he doesn’t get to party.
So if you ever see a moozie partying with women and drugs,know that the moozie is getting ready / planning a jihad against
kafir (s).
BTW, aren’t the Husseins partying in the WH tonite ?

burrata on April 24, 2013 at 7:38 PM

as the CIA simply being cautious by tossing his name into the pile because the Russians had flagged it or did something new come to light after the FBI stopped looking at him?

Allah

Tamerlan ran across either an informant or someone undercover.

And they didn’t tell the Feds, because they don’t tell them anything they don’t feel they shouldn’t be privy too.

budfox on April 24, 2013 at 8:03 PM

The FBI has got to get one of Big Sis’s pinging machines…

d1carter on April 24, 2013 at 8:40 PM

Tamerlan ran across either an informant or someone undercover.

And they didn’t tell the Feds, because they don’t tell them anything they don’t feel they shouldn’t be privy too.

budfox on April 24, 2013 at 8:03 PM

Given the REB administration’s slackass attitude about islamic terrorism, the Russians might be smart to develop their own network of informers in the Russian communities in the USA.

slickwillie2001 on April 24, 2013 at 8:42 PM

Given the REB administration’s slackass attitude about islamic terrorism, the Russians might be smart to develop their own network of informers in the Russian communities in the USA.

slickwillie2001 on April 24, 2013 at 8:42 PM

Funny you say that, because it does exist – to keep an eye on ex-pats who might want to finance “resistance” movements.

It does beg the question – how did the Russians know about Tamerlan’s extracurricular interests in 2011, before he went to Dagestan?

Lot of Russians in MA. Armenians, Jews, Georgians, etc…wouldn’t be hard to put a watcher in the community.

budfox on April 24, 2013 at 9:00 PM

David wood explains so much in this video about why such Islamic terror happens and how Obama and many other Muslims try to mislead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SoXs-0_rHY&bpctr=1366853747

Chessplayer on April 24, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Probably wanted to visit the WTC site, to pay their respects to the fellow jihadists who died there. And then off to find something to bomb. If a jihadi can make it in New York he can make it anywhere.

farsighted on April 24, 2013 at 10:16 PM

farsighted on April 24, 2013 at 10:16 PM

Pretty certain they weren’t headed over to the Stonewall Inn over on Christopher Street to party.

coldwarrior on April 24, 2013 at 10:23 PM

What did the CIA know, or think they knew, about Tamerlan Tsarnaev in late 2011?

And how did they know it? The CIA does not operate within the US, where Tamerlan had been living the past 6-7 years.

And how did the Russians know enough about a guy who had been living in the US the past 6-7 years to consider him a threat to Russia?

So both the CIA and their Russian cuonterparts, agencies that do not theoretically concern themselves with what is going on within US borders, both thought in 2011 that Tamerlan was a potential threat.

And the FBI did not.

Sounds to me like Tamerlan must have had contact with foreign Islamist militants in 2011, and/or before that. The Russians say he met with some while in Dagestan/Chechnya in 2012.

Yet we are told by this admin there is no foreign connection or involvement in the Boston terrorist bombing.

This does not add up.

farsighted on April 24, 2013 at 10:32 PM

Russia or some other Muslim country,

HotAirLib on April 24, 2013 at 4:33 PM

Troll is even dumber than I thought.

farsighted on April 24, 2013 at 10:41 PM

How many billions do we spend on Intelligence?

Oil Can on April 25, 2013 at 12:05 AM

Troll is even dumber than I thought.

farsighted on April 24, 2013 at 10:41 PM

HAL could take tips from libfree on occasionally making sense.

MelonCollie on April 25, 2013 at 1:44 AM

Obama has always been an ardent apologist for imperialistic Islam.

Those who voted for him supported him in part because of this lickspittle, craven stance.

Whether out of cowardice in the face of a brutal, violent religious threat, or from a world-historical naivete about the murderous tenets of Mohammad, or possibly because they approve of Islam’s depredations against a West they hate for leaving them with case of post-colonial guilt.

A morbid, unhistorical form of self-loathing which gives the suicidal a kick by witnessing the big, bad “colonial” powers reap well-deserved “blowback” for their imperialistic “crimes”.

(Coyly overlooking all of the equal and worse imperialistic, misogynistic, incalculably cruel crimes committed by Islam during the past 1350 years, with its scorched earth policies which killed and enslaved millions from Mecca to Morocco, Spain to the Seychelles, Turkey to Timbuktu).

Obama has actively sought to geld America’s ability to fight militant, expansionistic, terroristic Islam.

Being a Quisling or a madman (there are no other choices) himself.

profitsbeard on April 25, 2013 at 1:52 AM

Is it my imagination, or, didn’t the MSM roll the Tsarnaev family out as non-muslim immigrants?

kregg on April 25, 2013 at 5:43 AM

As the smoke clears on this story it is beginning to look like Bill Clinton’s Jimmy Carter moment*.
Perhaps we should have left Melosovic alone?

*Carter deposed the Shaw of Iran for a “peaceful cleric” (a point of history missing from the movie Argo).

kregg on April 25, 2013 at 6:01 AM

Oh great, another ________ hearing. Didn’t we have one before Obama became a 2 term president?
 
HotAirLib on April 24, 2013 at 3:52 PM

 
Insert appropriate “Modern Voter” topic here. Suggestions include:
 
Benghazi
 
Fast and Furious
 
Budget
 
Employment
 
Annual nationwide gun death toll of urban black children vs. rare and isolated mass-shootings of whites
 
etc.

rogerb on April 25, 2013 at 2:10 PM

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