Report: Bipartisan Senate group close to a deal on path to legal status for illegals

posted at 5:46 pm on March 11, 2013 by Allahpundit

I’m … not sure this is news. The chief objection from border hawks to the bipartisan plan announced in January was that it would grant probationary legal status to illegals on the first day, immediately upon passage. A path to citizenship would, if Rubio gets his way, be granted later after there have been measurable improvements to border security, but that’s a red herring. Citizenship for illegals is a fait accompli once legal status is granted; it’s purely a question of when. The mystery was whether he and Republicans would stick with that scheme, conditioning citizenship on better enforcement, or whether they’d wise up, take a tougher stance, and demand better enforcement before granting any legal status.

If the LAT is right, they caved. Illegals get probationary legal status right away, subject to the standard proposed requirements of paying a fine, having no criminal record, etc:

Eight senators who have spent weeks trying to write a bipartisan bill to overhaul immigration laws have privately agreed on the most contentious part of the draft — how to offer legal status to the nation’s 11 million illegal immigrants.

According to aides familiar with the closed-door negotiations, the bill would require illegal immigrants to register with Homeland Security Department authorities, file federal income taxes for their time in America and pay a still-to-be-determined fine. They also must have a clean law enforcement record.

Once granted probationary legal status, immigrants would be allowed to work but would be barred from receiving federal public benefits, including food stamps, family cash assistance, Medicaid and unemployment insurance…

Still undecided is how long illegal immigrants would need to wait before they could apply for permanent resident status and eventually become citizens. The delay for a green card probably would be 10 years or longer, the aides said.

Per Conn Carroll, it’s amazing that after two months of media heavy breathing about the “Gang of Eight” and their big bipartisan compromise on comprehensive reform, this is the only major issue they’ve actually agreed on so far. Nothing yet on border security, nothing yet on guest workers, nothing yet even on citizenship and how long it’ll take. The singular point of agreement is how quickly illegals get legal status. Result: Pretty darned quickly. Mickey Kaus has a post today wondering if comprehensive reform can stand up to intense scrutiny if/when the Senate finally takes it up as its top priority. I actually agree with Carroll in thinking we’ll never reach that point, at least not with the Gang of Eight bill as a starting baseline. If it takes 10 weeks to agree on probationary legal status, how long will it take for a truly difficult issue like visas?

I do agree with Kaus, though, that Obama sincerely wants to pass immigration reform in the next two years. There’s a theory that O would rather sabotage the Gang of Eight, watch negotiations fall apart, and then demagogue the hell out of the GOP in hopes of getting Latinos to turn out en masse next year and hand the House back to the Democrats. Then he can pass immigration reform, and a whole lot more, with his new Democratic Congress. Two problems with that. One: Obama wants to share “credit” with Republicans on immigration if possible because, for the GOP, “credit” is more likely to turn into blame. If a bipartisan bill passes, the Democrats get most of the credit with Latinos because it’ll be a Democratic president whose administration produced reform. Meanwhile, pro-reform Republicans will have to deal with a backlash among their base, which means GOP infighting and, maybe, some opportunities for Dems to claim that Republican voters are hostile to Latinos notwithstanding congressional Republicans’ support for the bill. If, by contrast, comprehensive reform passes through a Congress controlled by Democrats in 2015, the backlash among border hawks falls squarely on the Dems in 2016. Essentially, he needs the GOP on this so that they can serve as a lightning rod.

Two: There’s no compelling reason to think Democrats can retake the House next year even if comprehensive reform collapses this summer. Obama and OFA will try their hardest to use it to mobilize Latinos, but having yet another immigration failure happen on a Democratic president’s watch will complicate that. Plus, with so many House districts already safely red, the threat of a pro-amnesty backlash doing much damage is minimal. O might console himself with the thought that if he’s serious about passing something before he leaves office, he’s got a decent shot of doing that in 2015-16 even with the House still in Republican hands. The GOP will be eager to build some sort of goodwill with Latinos before the next presidential election; for just that reason, the conservative base will probably be more forgiving of a bad compromise two years from now than they are now. But that’s an awfully risky bet for Obama to make given changing political currents. If he wants to finally set those millions of illegals on the path to becoming Democratic voters, best to seize the semi-opportunity he has now with Marco Rubio as his point man.


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Amnesty. Again.

BobMbx on March 11, 2013 at 5:48 PM

That picture.

Rubio sure has a bad choice in Senate cohorts.

portlandon on March 11, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Kill it with fire.

El_Terrible on March 11, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Permanent minority status and irrelevance to the GOP in 5, 4, 3, 2, …

OhEssYouCowboys on March 11, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Traitorous bastards, all.

Stoic Patriot on March 11, 2013 at 5:53 PM

Let it burn.

cdog0613 on March 11, 2013 at 5:55 PM

And there you have it. This ‘Gang of Traitors’, led by enemy of the state Marco Rubio, will stop at nothing to ram through obama’s destructive agenda. If there was any lingering doubt about where Rubio’s loyalties lie, this should erase it – he is loyal to obama and sees his support of obama’s agenda as his path to OUR White House.

Pork-Chop on March 11, 2013 at 5:55 PM

NO.

ctmom on March 11, 2013 at 5:56 PM

Just build the fence!

bill glass on March 11, 2013 at 5:57 PM

Seal Border

Arrest & Deport ALL criminal aliens

Problem Solved

Discuss

D-fusit on March 11, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Permanent minority status and irrelevance to the GOP in 5, 4, 3, 2,

No, the minority status will be temporary….just long enough for the GOPs irrelevance to propel it into extinction.

For the Left, there is only room for one ruling party with only slight variation in degree of ideology allowed.

hawkeye54 on March 11, 2013 at 5:58 PM

If the LAT is right, they caved

Had to happen. They lust after those Hipanic voters so bad, they would sell their own mothers in the hope the GOP will be rewarded for its
largesse. I’d say the Hispanic demographic has the GOP right where they want them. Begging!

a capella on March 11, 2013 at 5:59 PM

If the LAT is right, they caved. Illegals get probationary legal status right away, subject to the standard proposed requirements of paying a fine, having no criminal record, etc:

Bam, 30 million shiny new Democrats, just like that.

Permanent minority status and irrelevance to the GOP in 5, 4, 3, 2, …

OhEssYouCowboys on March 11, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Yep. The party is clearly collapsing anyway, but this should ensure that by 2016 it effectively ceases to exist as Texas goes purple or even blue.

Doomberg on March 11, 2013 at 6:00 PM

Watch it not happen. I remember when Bush was close to it. It’s not slam dunk this issue

Flapjackmaka on March 11, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Just build the fence!

Mexico insists on being a major influence on our immigration policy, and I believe we should reciprocate by using Mexico as the ideal for our immigration policy and manage our southern border extactly the same way Mexico manages its southern border, and treat illegal aliens and foreign residents within with the exactly the same respect.

hawkeye54 on March 11, 2013 at 6:02 PM

This had better end Rubio’s presidential ambitions.

Clears the path for Rand Paul though.

gh on March 11, 2013 at 6:03 PM

So they are legal aliens?

tomas on March 11, 2013 at 6:05 PM

F*ck them all.

Midas on March 11, 2013 at 6:06 PM

Barry is writing his Legacy now. 1. Healthcare forming the basis of signgle payer 2. LGBT civil rights 3. Immigrant rights and citizenship.

think LBJ/FDR. He will be lauded thru history…in the top 5 or 6 prezies…at lest. He will also be seen as the prezy who rescued the economy from a near fatal collapse.

r keller on March 11, 2013 at 6:06 PM

Time for Lucy and the football, once again. Any promise of border and immigration enforcement from Obama isn’t worth the the Post-It it’s written on; we couldn’t even get Bush to take border security seriously. It’s almost as if these d-bags want the GOP to go the way of the Federalists and Whigs. Is Rubio trying to become the thinking man’s Jeb Bush? Spare me, amigo. These people really stink.

Travis Bickle on March 11, 2013 at 6:12 PM

So they are legal aliens?

Pledge your eternal loyalty to the Left and commit to serve the democrat party as a grateful, humble and faithful servant and lifetime member and its full citizenship, baby!!

hawkeye54 on March 11, 2013 at 6:13 PM

If the LAT is right, they caved. Illegals get probationary legal status right away, subject to the standard proposed requirements of paying a fine, having no criminal record, etc:

I have often called the GOP the Stupid Party.

To clarify it is not the party it is the leadership and clowns like on this committee. They are truly Stupid or they are simply in the GOP to make the GOP fail take your choice.

2010 proves what works. What messaging should be used and 2006 made it very clear that Immigration is hated by the GOP base which is the heart and sole of the GOP. The leadership is a narrow special interest group that represents at best 20% of the party.

Steveangell on March 11, 2013 at 6:16 PM

are civics lessons racist?

tomas on March 11, 2013 at 6:16 PM

I’ll never take any of these spineless fools seriously until the borders are secure.

In other words, I’ll never take any of these spineless fools seriously. They care nothing for our security and our future — only their own.

hillbillyjim on March 11, 2013 at 6:17 PM

Why the hell would I be more forgiving in two years time? I am already only marginally connected to the GOP, and a back stab of this degree will leave me completely disengaged with them. They are not going to earn the votes of illegal aliens, they will not earn the votes of welfare dependent low wage earning never graduate high school Hispanics either! Particularly if they are insulted by the argument that the ones here legally actually want those here illegally to be given what they earned the hard way.

astonerii on March 11, 2013 at 6:17 PM

Once granted probationary legal status, immigrants would be allowed to work but would be barred from receiving federal public benefits, including food stamps, family cash assistance, Medicaid and unemployment insurance…

Yeah. Sure.

Rational Thought on March 11, 2013 at 6:18 PM

are civics lessons racist?

Yes. And its racist to even ask.

hawkeye54 on March 11, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Once granted probationary legal status, immigrants would be allowed to work but would be barred from receiving federal public benefits, including food stamps, family cash assistance, Medicaid and unemployment insurance…

No problem. Many of our caring and compassionate states, treasuries flush with lavish amounts of taxpayers’ cash, will gladly ignore or waive these restrictions, in a generous and humanitarian gesture.

hawkeye54 on March 11, 2013 at 6:21 PM

the bankruptcy of America is about to get on the high speed toll road…

burserker on March 11, 2013 at 6:26 PM

I predict a coming wave of cave-ins. This will be in response to Obama’s outreach, which has triggered (as Obama knew it would) the fear-of-success phobia and innate sense of unworthiness in the GOP following the Republicans accidental “victory” from the sequester fallout. The GOP is so utterly stricken with inferiority (and fear of the media) that they feel they must atone for making Obama look bad. Obama has never reached out in his entire presidency — not until he was in a weak position — and the anti-Machiavellian nitwits in the GOP have no idea what’s really going on.

The GOP will now embrace the chance to save Obama’s ass to assuage their conscience and in desperate hopes the media will FINALLY like them. Of course, we all know what will really happen.

rrpjr on March 11, 2013 at 6:26 PM

Seal Border

Arrest & Deport ALL criminal aliens

Problem Solved

Discuss

D-fusit on March 11, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Better yet seal DC.

bgibbs1000 on March 11, 2013 at 6:26 PM

This country is already the United States of Mexico. We have been taken over without a shot being fired. Politicians think they are just getting votes. How wrong they are.

tomas on March 11, 2013 at 6:26 PM

How about conditioning citizenship on obeying the law?

How ’bout that?

It’s illustrative of the whole ridiculousness of the entire discussion that we’re not even talking about that.

Obeying the law is old fashioned I guess…

catmman on March 11, 2013 at 6:26 PM

Will this finally open people’s eyes about Rubio? That he’s not who many conservatives think he is. That he’s a puppet of the GOP Establishment that sound great making speeches and rode the Tea Party bandwagon to help him get elected. Don’t be fooled by charlatans

journeymike on March 11, 2013 at 6:27 PM

20 years from now we get to do it all over again gaining another 30 million new citizens overnight.

Lean forward! Makes it easier to see the abyss waiting for us.

Bishop on March 11, 2013 at 6:29 PM

I have often called the GOP the Stupid Party.

To clarify it is not the party it is the leadership and clowns like on this committee. They are truly Stupid or they are simply in the GOP to make the GOP fail take your choice.

2010 proves what works. What messaging should be used and 2006 made it very clear that Immigration is hated by the GOP base which is the heart and sole of the GOP. The leadership is a narrow special interest group that represents at best 20% of the party.

Steveangell on March 11, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Since I don’t believe they are stupid I choose they are simply in the GOP to make the GOP fail. The stupid ones are those who continue to fall for it, ie the voters.

bgibbs1000 on March 11, 2013 at 6:30 PM

Republicans, as a whole, have nothing to gain from amnesty in any way shape or form, and yet they persist.

If the Republicans were smart they would completely change the debate.

For example…

Propose an easier path to citizenship for H1B holders. Pay $X in taxes and you are given an expedited process. Also, throw in that if you are here illegally you can *never* gain citizenship and a hefty cash penalty for you and anyone that employs you.

Republicans aren’t going to get the illegals’ votes, but they could do better with legal aliens. Why not force the issue in a way that might peel off the latter from the Democrats?

18-1 on March 11, 2013 at 6:31 PM

As if it’s really only 11 million, and that any of them will vote for Republicans. Yeesh, Rubio.

Dongemaharu on March 11, 2013 at 6:31 PM

Obama cannot be trusted. McCain cannot be trusted.

pat on March 11, 2013 at 6:33 PM

As if it’s really only 11 million, and that any of them will vote for Republicans. Yeesh, Rubio.

11 million is lowballing, and with a deal in the works many more will be scrambling across the border. Eventually, if the deal becomes a reality, I expect the real number to exceed 44 million, along with the demise of the GOP.

hawkeye54 on March 11, 2013 at 6:33 PM

Please primary the Gang of Ocho!

FloatingRock on March 11, 2013 at 6:34 PM

11 million is lowballing, and with a deal in the works many more will be scrambling across the border. Eventually, if the deal becomes a reality, I expect the real number to exceed 44 million, along with the demise of the GOP country.

hawkeye54 on March 11, 2013 at 6:33 PM

FIFY.

bgibbs1000 on March 11, 2013 at 6:37 PM

Just build the fence!

bill glass on March 11, 2013 at 5:57 PM

Make it a moat filled with sharks with lasers on their heads, and I’m all for it.

Seriously, no sarc tag.

Laura in Maryland on March 11, 2013 at 6:38 PM

if we don’t ID at the voting booths, the democrats will never lose a national election again. nothing an illegal loves more than some free shiit from the govt

burserker on March 11, 2013 at 6:38 PM

Seal Border

Arrest & Deport ALL criminal aliens

Problem Solved

Discuss

D-fusit on March 11, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Better yet seal DC.

bgibbs1000 on March 11, 2013 at 6:26 PM

Indeed although it would be truly horrible if DC were Nuked it would leave the country off better most likely. DC is truly corrupt.

Steveangell on March 11, 2013 at 6:40 PM

Destroying America for transitory personal Power.

Like chopping a hole in a lifeboat to let water under the bottom boards leak out.

20 million new Dem voters and the end of the U.S., ho!

profitsbeard on March 11, 2013 at 6:41 PM

Report: Bipartisan Treasonous Senate group of scumbags close to a deal on path to legal status for illegals

These fvckers ought to be stripped of their citizenship and deported along with the illegals they represent.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 11, 2013 at 6:41 PM

That sound you hear are the bells tolling the death knell of the GOP.Amnesty, the cause of death!

redware on March 11, 2013 at 6:50 PM

There is no deal, but if there is, Rubio is done. He would kill himself worse than Rick Perry in the primaries. The thing with Perry is though he insulted his own base, in state tuition for children of illegals is nothing compared [b]amnesty[/b] (and that is exactly what this is). Unlike Perry, Rubio has zero accomplishments to fall back on and very little of a record to create trust. The only reasons he is even mentioned as a future leader is because of his boyish looks and the color of his skin – he is the GOP’s Obama.

Rubio allied with the wrong people, he’s going nowhere. Ted Cruz is the real deal, Rubio is a fraud. Rand Paul displayed what a real leader is all about, Rubio is an opportunist. Bobby Jindal makes the case for conservatism every day he is Governor in Louisiana, Rubio jumped on the McCain train.

Daemonocracy on March 11, 2013 at 6:54 PM

Isn’t rand paul on board the amnesty train? Why yes, yes I think he is…

astonerii on March 11, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Oh, hell, did I just type that out black and white on the internet for all to read? Damn, I am supposed to shut the f^ck up, sit the hell down and just let that slide…

astonerii on March 11, 2013 at 6:56 PM

Not only does the Rand Paul plan have amnesty, but path to citizenship!

astonerii on March 11, 2013 at 6:59 PM

Then there is how Rand Paul plans to make it work, shutting down all legal immigration while we accommodate the illegal aliens who jumped the line and have been lining their pockets taking jobs from citizens and taking welfare payments.

astonerii on March 11, 2013 at 7:00 PM

But not to be outdone by the likes of John McCain, he argues that he is the person to get it done, because all his sycophants are unwilling to question his conservativeness!

astonerii on March 11, 2013 at 7:01 PM

if we don’t ID at the voting booths, the democrats will never lose a national election again. nothing an illegal loves more than some free shiit from the govt

Which is why the DoJ will fight voter ID. Adding millions more solid dems will probably make that fight moot and the dems can enjoy perpetual majority, and eventual single party status. We have too many of our own citizens who love that free government stuff too. Add millions more newly legalized getting it and the nation is doomed.

hawkeye54 on March 11, 2013 at 7:02 PM

“Bi-partisan means that some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out,” – George Carlin

journeymike on March 11, 2013 at 7:03 PM

Look, I respect Rand Paul’s floor speaking filibuster! If you are going to filibuster, that there is how you do it! But I am not on board the man’s Cain Train yet. I still think that the destination is Ron Paultardville.

astonerii on March 11, 2013 at 7:04 PM

, along with the demise of the GOP country.

hawkeye54 on March 11, 2013 at 6:33 PM

FIFY.

bgibbs1000 on March 11, 2013 at 6:37 PM

Yup. As planned by our leftist statists in both parties. Demise of our Republic the goal.

hawkeye54 on March 11, 2013 at 7:04 PM

If the GOP goes along with amnesty I will QUIT the party. My family didn’t border-jump!

annoyinglittletwerp on March 11, 2013 at 7:08 PM

In which Rubio kills his chances for President in 2016.

Look, Republicans – I’m really sick of all you idiots talking about “a path to citizenship.”

We already have one of those. It’s called our existent legal immigration process. If you are operating outside that framework, you are doing nothing more than kicking sand in the face all of the people doing it right way.

No breaks for illegals. America is founded on the rule of law. You can either respect that or change the law, but you cannot ignore the law and do an unlawful thing outside it.

BKennedy on March 11, 2013 at 7:11 PM

There will be amnesty. And gun control. The GOP has appeasement fever, and the only answers is more cave-ins.

rrpjr on March 11, 2013 at 7:11 PM

If the GOP goes along with amnesty I will QUIT the party. My family didn’t border-jump!

I’ll have to consider doing the same. Sadly, I see them as ones really quitting the party.

hawkeye54 on March 11, 2013 at 7:19 PM

Not only does the Rand Paul plan have amnesty, but path to citizenship!

astonerii on March 11, 2013 at 6:59 PM

Do you have a link to the Rand Paul plan? I wasn’t aware that he has a plan. Frankly, I think he sounds too much like an amnesty supporter but I’ve also noticed that, at least one time I heard him talk about it, he couches his language a bit, saying that “if people want to become American”.

Also, I’ve read that the Gang De Ocho plan is probably going to include a mandatory biometric national ID, which I suspect Rand Paul will oppose.

FloatingRock on March 11, 2013 at 7:21 PM

Confirming my pledge never to vote GOP again.

Hucklebuck on March 11, 2013 at 7:24 PM

hawkeye54 on March 11, 2013 at 7:19 PM

My paternal grandfather was an immigrant. HE followed the rules. Guess some animals are more equal than others.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 11, 2013 at 7:24 PM

Burn, baby, burn.

Hucklebuck on March 11, 2013 at 7:25 PM

FloatingRock on March 11, 2013 at 7:21 PM

Drudge had a thing up about him and amnesty about three months ago maybe? Those were the bits I recalled from it.

astonerii on March 11, 2013 at 7:26 PM

Law of Unintended Consequences anyone?
What’s good for the Hispanic is good for the Asian…

What happens when lots of H1-B visa workers suddenly decide to stick around past their visa expiration date? Invite their cousins and siblings for a “visit”? The market for “good paying” jobs in IT and Medicine goes squishy with newly minted Asian-Americans.

They are watching this debate as closely as anyone.

kooly on March 11, 2013 at 7:41 PM

Drudge had a thing up about him and amnesty about three months ago maybe? Those were the bits I recalled from it.

astonerii on March 11, 2013 at 7:26 PM

Well if he supports amnesty when it counts then there is always Ted Cruz… assuming he withstands pressure from the establishment. I hope that now that McCain and Graham have attacked Rand that Rand will cease following their lead on amnesty and instead take a position more similar to his fathers during the ’12 election which didn’t include amnesty but is still reasonable and more in accord with what most people think.

The Democrats want amnesty because they want tens of millions of new world-socialist voters to vote for them. Democrat and Republican cronies both want to incentivize and encourage a new wave of illegal aliens to exploit. Probably the third government interest is all the lost tax revenue that many illegals don’t pay. The tax equality problem can be alleviated by replacing federal taxes with a national sales tax. That way everybody who lives in American will pay their fair share of taxes anonymously.

Just say no to fascist, nationalistic biometric ID’s and let’s solve the problem by replacing the income tax with a national sales tax instead.

FloatingRock on March 11, 2013 at 7:42 PM

Senator Paul fights for the Constitution – Rubio undermines it.

Panther on March 11, 2013 at 7:42 PM

Amnesty for illegals = victory for world-socialism over American freedom and liberty!

FloatingRock on March 11, 2013 at 7:44 PM

Help fight tax inequality, vote for candidates in ’14 and ’16 that will help us replace the corrupt US tax code with a much fairer and hard to corrupt national sales tax.

FloatingRock on March 11, 2013 at 7:48 PM

If this goes through, I’m calling Rand Paul and telling him to move to Texas and start campaigning for first POTUS of the Conservative States of America. Not joking, not kidding.

Another 20 million unwashed, unskilled, unscreened w3tbacks on the dole and the Demoncrats have effective one-party rule.

MelonCollie on March 11, 2013 at 8:30 PM

from border hawks to the bipartisan plan

So those who believe in the rule of law and in America are “hawks” and those who do not are “bipartisan”? To hell with that crap.

VorDaj on March 11, 2013 at 8:31 PM

Rubio is a Trojan Horse to Mexicanate America and an exceedingly obvious one. And his foreign policy views (we must support the “rebels”!) are those of a crackpot.

VorDaj on March 11, 2013 at 8:42 PM

In a time when the NBA chooses to celebrate “Hispanic Heritage Month” (quick and no peeking, name the top 10 Mexican NBA players of all time) and refers to “Los Lakers” and “El Heat”, what else should we expect? It’s all about marketing. The one good thing is that at my age I won’t live long enough to have to endure another of these travesties.

UnrepentantCurmudgeon on March 11, 2013 at 9:05 PM

Secure the borders first.

It’s only four simple words understood by almost any child, but our tireless servants in Washington DC just can’t understand them.

It would be very fun to know how many million phone calls, letters, Fax or emails Bush 43 received saying those four simple words. Do they keep track of such things and release such to the public?

RJL on March 11, 2013 at 9:38 PM

Speaking of illegal alien felons…..

From the current Selective Service brochure:

“Who must register? Male US citzens and immigrants, documented and undocumented, residing in the US and its territories must register if they are age 18 through 25.

What happens if I don’t register? Not registering is a felony.
Young men prosecuted and convicted of failure to register may be fined up to $250,000 , imprisoned for up to 5 years, or both.
Failure to register may also cause men to permanently lose eligibility for student financial aid, government employment,
job training, and US citizenship for male immigrants.”

So that means that every male illegal alien who has resided in the US any time during his life between ages 18 and 25 is a felon if he failed to register.

I wonder how many male illegal aliens have registered for the draft???

Wonder what the gang of 8 and GOP “leadership” intends to do
with illegal alien felons?

fred5678 on March 11, 2013 at 10:13 PM

TRAITORS to the laws and sovereignty of the Republic they serve!!!!

They want more taxpayers……..so they can spend more!

They want more dependents on the Federal Teat so they can grow their power and influence.

And finally they want to payoff the debt they owe to business groups that bankrolled their miserable campaigns.

PappyD61 on March 11, 2013 at 10:41 PM

SEAL the freaking border!!!!

PappyD61 on March 11, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Is it possible that the gop has decided like Obama TO ABANDON the white working class voter and is going FULL TEATER?

Open borders……20 million with large families and free benefits for all….guess what?????

This will be THE LAST AMNESTY BILL. There won’t be a need to have another one.

Welcome to the Bush planned North American Union.

Don’t believe me????

Google it: Pacific Union, Latin American Union, etc.

PappyD61 on March 11, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Don’t worry about Rubio…he’s not natural born, anyway.

bill glass on March 11, 2013 at 10:49 PM

bill glass on March 11, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Eff off Birther!
*Not a Rubio fan-but I despise bither wackos even more.*

annoyinglittletwerp on March 11, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Groupthink cretins are ok, though?

bill glass on March 11, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Don’t worry about Rubio…he’s not natural born, anyway.

bill glass on March 11, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Well, that’s a relief. We all know there is no chance the People would ever elect a guy President whose parents weren’t both American citizens at the time he was born.

fadetogray on March 11, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Good one!

bill glass on March 11, 2013 at 11:36 PM

Attention all felons!!!!!!

From the current Selective Service brochure –

“Who must register? Male US citzens and immigrants, documented and undocumented, residing in the US and its territories must register if they are age 18 through 25.

What happens if I don’t register? Not registering is a felony. Young men prosecuted and convicted of failure to register may be fined up to $250,000 , imprisoned for up to 5 years, or both.

Failure to register may also cause men to permanently lose eligibility for student financial aid, government employment, job training, and US citizenship for male immigrants.”

So that means that every male illegal alien who has resided in the US any time during his life between 18 and 25 is a felon if he failed to register.

I wonder how many male illegal aliens have registered for the draft???

Wonder what the gang of 8 and GOP “leadership” intends to do
with illegal alien felons?

fred5678 on March 12, 2013 at 1:30 AM

Menendez is just putting the finishing touches on the provision that allows under-age immigrant sex with US Senators. He is proud to have had a hand in it.

The joke about illegals filing taxes is priceless!

Isn’t it great to see Senators getting along?

Well, no, not really. If Rubio wants any future he had better get out of there pronto.

virgo on March 12, 2013 at 4:07 AM

If a bipartisan bill passes, the Democrats get most of the credit with Latinos because it’ll be a Democratic president whose administration produced reform.

this is foolish. For the thousandth time – what credit are you talking about? Are you talking about Hispanics saying “yeah, republicans voted for that also” or are you claiming “credit” in the sense that you believe passing amnesty (which is all we are talking about here – no matter how you dress it up) will result in a change in the voting behavior of Hispanics?

Because if its the latter, once again, there is no evidence to support this theory and plenty of evidence to refute it. Hispanics did not start voting for the GOP after Reagan’s amnesty. Hispanics come from very left wing countries for the most part, where the party furthest to the right is still probably to the left of the Democrats. Hispanics are overwhelmingly fiscally liberal.

So, what is the belief that amnesty will result in Hispanics voting for republicans based on?

The question isn’t a political one. No matter what happens, these Hispanics, if allowed to vote, will vote overwhelmingly for the Dems, just as Hispanic voters in the U.S. already do.

Therefore, the question is pure policy. Does it make sense to give these people – poor, uneducated, unskilled – some form of legal status and therefore create an incentive for millions upon millions more poor, uneducated and unskilled people to migrate to the U.S. illegally?

The question answers itself. There is no compelling reason to give legal status at this point in time to the illegals already here. No political reason (which really shouldn’t be the driving force of a policy questions this big) and no national interest reason.

Monkeytoe on March 12, 2013 at 7:48 AM