Loathsome nutritionist thinks loathsome nanny-state mayor doesn’t go far enough

posted at 2:01 pm on March 10, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

Michael Bloomberg has received more than a few broadsides for his seemingly endless parade of new, nanny-state laws designed to tell you how to live. (You know… for your own good.) And now he’s taking another shot across the bow from New York University professor and nutritionist Marion Nestle. But unlike most of the criticism that you’ve read here – or from other sane sources – Ms. Nestle feels that Bloomberg’s reign of lecturing simply doesn’t go far enough. Let’s take a look.

Barring any late legal surprises, Mayor Bloomberg’s 16-ounce cap on sugary sodas goes into effect on Tuesday, March 12. After that, restaurants, movie theaters, sports venues and food carts will not be permitted to sell extra-large portions of sugar-packed drinks.

Stay calm. This does not signal the end of democracy in America. This is not the nanny state gone out of control.

If we want Americans to be healthy, we are going to have to take actions like this – and many more – and do so soon.

First of all, I’ll find some common ground in this debate by agreeing with Dr. Nestle on one point. This is not the “end of democracy.” In fact, this is democracy in action… at its very worst. Leaving aside, for the moment, the fact that we don’t actually have a textbook “democracy” here, the scene playing out in the Big Apple is democracy taken to the extreme. It’s a lesson in what happens if you keep electing the same type of nanny-state, big spending, “government is the answer to all problems” types over and over again regardless of the consequences.

As to the second part of her assertion, yes… this is the nanny state gone out of control. But the professor disagrees.

So-called “nanny-state” measures – like bans on driving while drunk, smoking in public places and, now, selling absurdly large sugary drinks – help to level the playing field. Such measures are about giving everyone an equal opportunity to live a safer and healthier life.

At the moment, it is up to you to make healthier choices, but that’s not easy in the face of relentless soda marketing. Governments have a responsibility to provide healthier environments for their citizens.

Trying to design some sort of equivalency between drunk driving and buying soda is so far afield from reality as to be offensive, but the real question comes in the second paragraph. Trying to say that it’s difficult to make choices of beverages other than soda or heavily sweetened coffees is absurd. If you actually want to make the “healthy choice” in a beverage, you should probably drink water. Has anyone noticed a shortage of bottled water lately? If the real problem is “marketing” then you are assuming that the American people are so brainless, helpless and hopeless that they can not resist anything being pitched in television commercials and we need Big Brother to shield us. Why not just outlaw advertising for things you don’t agree with? (That’s probably next.)

So what are these “many more” things Professor Nestle thinks we need to be doing? Here are a few.

Close the loopholes. The city does not have jurisdiction over sales of sodas in convenience stores and supermarkets.

Fix the price differential. A 7.5-ounce can of soda costs twice as much per ounce as a two-liter bottle, and you can’t buy just one; it comes in an 8-pack. Price determines sales. If a 16-ounce soda costs a dollar, a 32-ounce soda should cost two dollars.

Tax sodas.

Remove vending machines from schools.

Restrict marketing of sodas to children.

Don’t let SNAP (food stamp) benefits be used for sodas.

Almost all of these proposals fall into two categories. They are either more regulations to restrict human behavior or – the wildly popular idea on the Left – using taxes to modify behavior by driving the price of things they don’t like to unaffordable levels. The latter is one which crops up all of the time with predictable results. When they can’t take away your guns, they want to tax the ammunition. Rather than trying to make tobacco illegal, they tax it until piracy takes over the market. And now, if they can’t ban soda outright, they’ll tax it until only the richest people can afford it. The next development after that, I assure you, will be the appearance of black market soda and a new parade of citizens being dragged into court over nonsense.

Welcome to New York. Now get out while you still can.


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Son of Foodtruck Thread.

Bishop on May 8, 2013 at 7:22 PM

I wonder if situations like this aren’t one of the reasons New York City is one of the slowest-growing cities in the United States, perhaps?

No Erika, I’m pretty sure the fact that New York is one of the most expensive/crowded cities in the country accounts for its slow growth

nonpartisan on May 8, 2013 at 7:24 PM

The one group that clearly suffers from the current system — the ticketed vendors — are often poorly paid immigrants without legal status and virtually no power.

So they are illegals ?
How do they pay their taxes then ?

burrata on May 8, 2013 at 7:30 PM

Spark Plug is going to be upset!

KOOLAID2 on May 8, 2013 at 7:32 PM

So they are illegals ?
How do they pay their taxes then ?

burrata on May 8, 2013 at 7:30 PM

…ask noforeskin…he’s a genius!

KOOLAID2 on May 8, 2013 at 7:33 PM

Liberal dumphole where the populace allows their elected mayor to decide what size sodas they can drink has egregious conflicting regulations? Wow, that is big news.

Bishop on May 8, 2013 at 7:35 PM

Just offer mobile abortion services along with the culinary delights and the regulations will disappear.

Be wary of any trucks serving dumplings though….

rw on May 8, 2013 at 7:35 PM

Son of Foodtruck Thread.

Bishop on May 8, 2013 at 7:22 PM

…woah!….1st…..I was almost going to warn you!

KOOLAID2 on May 8, 2013 at 7:35 PM

Return of Food Truck Thread and a true Bishop.

Anyone seen Pookie?

wolfsDad on May 8, 2013 at 7:35 PM

I wonder if situations like this aren’t one of the reasons New York City is one of the slowest-growing cities in the United States, perhaps?

No Erika, I’m pretty sure the fact that New York is one of the most expensive/crowded cities in the country accounts for its slow growth

nonpartisan on May 8, 2013 at 7:24 PM

Yes, because food trucks are central to economic prosperity and innovation. But don’t worry, Wall Street will come up with some new, highly ‘innovative’ derivative products to instigate another financial crisis. It’s only a matter of time before innovation is on the way…

bayam on May 8, 2013 at 7:36 PM

Spark Plug is going to be upset!

KOOLAID2 on May 8, 2013 at 7:32 PM

SparkPlug has some explaining to do!

Son of Foodtruck Thread.

Bishop on May 8, 2013 at 7:22 PM

Axe on May 8, 2013 at 7:38 PM

Fort Worth has a food truck park. Different trucks all the time, picnic tables, live music, restrooms, and beer. It’s awesome!

txhsmom on May 8, 2013 at 7:40 PM

A wild Food Truck Thread appeareth.

tom daschle concerned on May 8, 2013 at 7:42 PM

…woah!….1st…..I was almost going to warn you!

KOOLAID2 on May 8, 2013 at 7:35 PM

I put out a contract on myself.

Bishop on May 8, 2013 at 7:43 PM

Hard to start a food truck business; even harder to find an affordable place to live, there, as if anyone would want to.

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PatriotGal2257 on May 8, 2013 at 7:44 PM

even harder to find an affordable place to live, there, as if anyone would want to.

Pardon my being comma happy.

PatriotGal2257 on May 8, 2013 at 7:47 PM

bayam on May 8, 2013 at 7:36 PM

…the jacka$$…is braying EVERYWHERE today!

KOOLAID2 on May 8, 2013 at 7:50 PM

Another big problem in NYC that benefits the connected is rent control. If they did away with it, the property values would sink with all the added stock in the mix. It could even out eventually, but why take the chance when you can pay off the city council and stay safe?

PattyJ on May 8, 2013 at 7:51 PM

Yes, because food trucks are central to economic prosperity and innovation. But don’t worry, Wall Street will come up with some new, highly ‘innovative’ derivative products to instigate another financial crisis. It’s only a matter of time before innovation is on the way…

bayam on May 8, 2013 at 7:36 PM

Funny most of those food truck owners work harder and have been more innovative than you can ever dream of being.

CW on May 8, 2013 at 7:51 PM

ProgTard RegulaterTards OverDrive OverLoad RegulationNazi’s!!

canopfor on May 8, 2013 at 7:57 PM

Institute for Justice has been on this case in many cities:
http://ij.org/search?searchword=food+truck

JimK on May 8, 2013 at 8:01 PM

Pardon my being comma happy.

PatriotGal2257 on May 8, 2013 at 7:47 PM

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canopfor on May 8, 2013 at 8:01 PM

I put out a contract on myself.

Bishop on May 8, 2013 at 7:43 PM

So, the funny thing is that sounds like it would fit right in with standard labor logic.

Count to 10 on May 8, 2013 at 8:01 PM

No Erika, I’m pretty sure the fact that New York is one of the most expensive/crowded cities in the country accounts for its slow growth

nonpartisan on May 8, 2013 at 7:24 PM

Overregulation that stifles competition and adds artificial costs tends to cause prices to rise.

forest on May 8, 2013 at 8:05 PM

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canopfor on May 8, 2013 at 8:07 PM

Here in the Texas oil patch, there have also been food truck controversies, mainly over the battle between brick-and-mortar restaurants and the trucks they see as stealing their customers (though the trucks do most of their business by opening before sunrise to cater to the early-morning breakfast crowd). For now, the answer’s been to not kick them out, but to make sure they have both their health permits and are remitting sales taxes locally (one food truck was doing land office business, but their sales tax permit was for a town 75 miles away. So that city was getting the local share of the state’s 8 1/4 percent take without a single item being sold inside its borders).

jon1979 on May 8, 2013 at 8:14 PM

I put out a contract on myself.

Bishop on May 8, 2013 at 7:43 PM

Bishop:Were you smart enough to include the Bunker location!

Runs Like Hell!
(sarc):)

canopfor on May 8, 2013 at 8:20 PM

Overregulation that stifles competition and adds artificial costs tends to cause prices to rise.

forest on May 8, 2013 at 8:05 PM

There is also the fact that the concentration of rich liberals is so large there that they have a significant effect on to kinds of goods are available and competitive. So, it’s a fairly cheap place to find luxury goods, but an expensive place to find staples.

Count to 10 on May 8, 2013 at 8:33 PM

So that city was getting the local share of the state’s 8 1/4 percent take without a single item being sold inside its borders).

jon1979 on May 8, 2013 at 8:14 PM

OMG

CW on May 8, 2013 at 9:00 PM

Food truck threads rock.

TitularHead on May 8, 2013 at 9:46 PM

NYC…..IRONY headquarters of America!

The Media and elitists there make fun of the hicks and hayseeds with no brains yet….they have the cities that are headed headlong into bankruptcy, are killing their local economy, and elect the dumbest of the dumb political leaders devoid of common sense………and for the cherry on top…….they don’t even connect the dots.

Ugh!!

PappyD61 on May 8, 2013 at 10:08 PM

The one group that clearly suffers from the current system — the ticketed vendors — are often poorly paid immigrants without legal status and virtually no power.

Democratic policy hurting their illegal sacred cows? What a surprise!

thuja on May 9, 2013 at 8:48 AM

The problem with food trucks is that they squat on public property as part of their business model. Brick and mortar restaurants aren’t restricted by what they put outside on the sidewalks surrounding their locations yet pay property taxes (either directly or indirectly through rent) that benefit the city. Food carts take over the sidewalks yet don’t have to pay property taxes because they don’t have fixed locations.

blammm on May 9, 2013 at 9:54 AM

“NYC also hating on innovation,”…Hating on? Really? Has ebonics gone mainstream now?

rjh on May 9, 2013 at 11:18 AM

I think the worthless wind mills of death can be retired.

pat on May 12, 2013 at 3:07 AM