Quotes of the day

posted at 8:47 pm on March 8, 2013 by Allahpundit

The Senate has the power to restrain the executive branch — and my filibuster was the beginning of the fight to restore a healthy balance of powers. The president still needs to definitively say that the United States will not kill American noncombatants. The Constitution’s Fifth Amendment applies to all Americans; there are no exceptions.

The outpouring of support for my filibuster has been overwhelming and heartening. My office has fielded thousands of calls. Millions have followed this debate on TV, Twitter and Facebook. On Thursday, the White House produced another letter explaining its position on drone strikes. But the administration took too long, and parsed too many words and phrases, to instill confidence in its willingness or ability to protect our liberty.

I hope my efforts help spur a national debate about the limits of executive power and the scope of every American’s natural right to be free. “Due process” is not just a phrase that can be ignored at the whim of the president; it is a right that belongs to every citizen in this great nation.

I believe the support I received this past week shows that Americans are looking for someone to really stand up and fight for them. And I’m prepared to do just that.

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“Sen. Paul’s 13 hours on the Senate floor won’t have any practical effect on our policy and how we’re going after terrorists on a day-to-day basis,” a senior administration official told Yahoo News on condition of anonymity.

But didn’t Paul wring a letter out of Obama’s top lawyer, Attorney General Eric Holder, in which he effectively promised that Americans who aren’t lining up to take a shot at the Capitol with a grenade launcher (to paraphrase the senator) are safe?

In a word: No…

Holder didn’t use the phrase “actively attacking.” And administration officials privately agreed on Friday that “not engaged in combat” was the key phrase going forward. None of them agreed to define the expression on the record.

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“This has been slowly building, and when something is slowly building like this it’s hard to tell whether what has stayed a slow burn and a simmer will never move past that — and when it will suddenly burst into public view,” said Matt Miller, a former Justice Department spokesman.

“I would say they’re somewhat like stunned bunnies at this point,” said Kenneth Anderson, a law professor at American University and a Hoover Institution fellow…

“There is a little bit of whiplash,” said Miller. “Paul’s position has been pretty clear for a long time, but when I see others joining who had never before voiced any support for a civil liberties position, it’s obviously opportunism and a chance to be on the other side from the administration. That’s what drew them to the floor and onto Twitter.”…

“I do mind our party taking a position completely different than we had with President Bush,” Graham told POLITICO. “I didn’t hear any of these people say anything during the Bush administration. Where were they? I just think it’s politics. I think it’s creating a straw man, creating a situation that doesn’t exist.”

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But the real problem, as Paul made clear, isn’t the use of drones against US citizens on American soil; it is American foreign policy itself, under both this president and his predecessor.

His indictment was radical, sweeping, total, unconditional — and wildly overdrawn. Just to take one example, he said we are living in a state of perpetual and endless war, and used Iraq as an example — Iraq, from which we pulled out entirely in 2011. To listen to Paul, you’d think America was already a police state, and the planet its evil playground.

Yes, many people believe this, but that doesn’t make it true. It wasn’t true under Bush and it’s not true under Obama. Moreover, the logic of Paul’s view is that the United States is the aggressor in the war on Islamist terror rather than a bystander unwillingly drawn into a battle that has not yet been won.

Rand Paul, who turned 50 this year, is one of the most talented politicians of his generation. And one of the most dangerous.

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Yet the irony here is that while Republicans are excited by Paul’s stand, any decision to change the direction of the party’s take on foreign policy would contradict their desire to improve their electability after their defeat last November.

As much as Paul’s stand inspired Republicans and even generated respect from Democrats, they need to remember that most Americans support the drone policy. They may be sick of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, but they don’t share Paul’s disinterest in fighting the “perpetual war” against Islamists because they know the threat is real. They also know that the idea that the only legitimate fighting is being conducted on battlefields between soldiers is hopelessly outmoded.

Obama won re-election in part by bragging about killing Osama bin Laden and chiding Mitt Romney for his disinterest in the hunt for the arch terrorist. Moreover, if Republicans are foolish enough to follow Paul down the road toward embracing a form of isolationism, they will be branded as the weak party on defense and concede foreign policy as an issue to the Democrats for a generation.

Those who wish to save the GOP from this fate can’t let Paul speak for the party on these issues. But if they are to do it they will have to show at least as much guts as he did this week and avoid sounding, as McCain and Graham did yesterday, like cranky old men telling the kids to get off their lawn.

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The complaint against many GOP hawks is that they have been rash and too enamored of executive authority. They’ve been too Pollyannaish about the Arab Spring, say their critics. And while defense needs defending, they haven’t been very effective or creative in gaining savings that don’t impair national security. And there in his post-filibuster rant was McCain, with Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) in tow, reaffirming all those perceptions…

It is a mistake for conservative hawks is to view any limitation (constitutional, fiscal, real world) as a threat to their well-meaning effort to maintain U.S. influence in the world. In fact, it is only with respect for some limits on the executive, understanding of fiscal restraints and, most important, an appreciation for whom we are dealing with (friend or foe) that an internationalist foreign policy can be sustained.

At some point McCain begins to hurt more than help that endeavor. If you want to promote pro-life views you better not nominate Richard Mourdock, and if you want to win adherents to a responsible but robust foreign policy. . . well, let’s just say it is better to have a spokesman who doesn’t scare the living daylights out of the public.

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Rand Paul is not moving public opinion on this point or even Republican opinion on this point. Rather, public and Republican opinion on this point has already moved, but is currently being falsified because no one ever wants to admit they’re wrong, and Rand Paul is offering people an opportunity to express their real opinion.

And that could wind up working out badly for the hawks, as McCain expects, because people might just be seduced into just doing a 180 on their Idealism — moving from “we will make any sacrifice to make the world safe for democracy” (a sentiment as noble as it is false) to a new completely-opposite Idealism of pacifism. But in both cases they’re as Idealistic and Noble as they can possibly be. So it’s an attractive thing.

I actually don’t believe in Paulian pacifism and do believe in the need and justification for American intervention on a limited basis and in pursuit of a limited number of objectives.

If McCain also believes that — and of course he does — he would be wise to stop making the choice between the Ron Paul doctrinal peacenikism and the McCain Interventions Incorporated model.

Because McCain will lose, and so will the concept of interventionism itself.

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Two years ago in this space, I noted that the U.S. secretary of education, who doesn’t employ a single teacher, is the only education minister in the developed world with his own SWAT team: He used it to send 15 officers to kick down a door in Stockton, Calif., drag Kenneth Wright out onto the front lawn, and put him in handcuffs for six hours. Erroneously, as it turned out. But it was in connection with his estranged wife’s suspected fraudulent student-loan application, so you can’t be too careful. That the education bureaucracy of the Brokest Nation in History has its own Seal Team Six is ridiculous and offensive. Yet the citizenry don’t find it so: They accept it…

Do you remember the way it was before the war on terror? Back in the Nineties, everyone was worried about militias and survivalists, who lived in what were invariably described as “compounds,” and not in the Kennedys-at-Hyannisport sense. And every so often one of these compound-dwellers would find himself besieged by a great tide of federal alphabet soup, agents from the DEA, ATF, FBI, and maybe even RRB. There was a guy called Randy Weaver who lost his wife, son, and dog to the guns of federal agents, was charged and acquitted in the murder of a deputy marshal, and wound up getting a multi-million-dollar settlement from the Department of Justice. Before he zipped his lips on grounds of self-incrimination, the man who wounded Weaver and killed his wife, an FBI agent called Lon Horiuchi, testified that he opened fire because he thought the Weavers were about to fire on a surveillance helicopter. When you consider the resources brought to bear against a nobody like Randy Weaver for no rational purpose, is it really so “far-fetched” to foresee the Department of Justice deploying drones to the Ruby Ridges and Wacos of the 2020s?

I mention in my book that government is increasingly comfortable with a view of society as a giant “Panopticon” — the radial prison devised by Jeremy Bentham in 1785, in which the authorities can see everyone and everything. In the Droneworld we have built for the war on terror, we can’t see the forest because we’re busy tracking every spindly sapling. When the same philosophy is applied on the home front, it will not be pretty.

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There has been a major, major shift here. There’s more to it than you can see inside the power structure in Washington, inside the Republican Party. And for McCain now to come call these guys kooks and wackos illustrates exactly what’s wrong.

But here’s the substance of this. There is a fear among McCain, Lindsey Graham, and others who favor an interventionist foreign policy. Think of the neocons. Think of going into Iraq and not just securing Iraq, but building a democracy. Nation building, if you will. Think of the outbreak of the Arab Spring and the people on our side who thought, “Wow, this is wonderful. This is the outbreak of American democracy,” when it wasn’t. It was the exact opposite. Rand Paul, they’re asking themselves, is he his father’s son or is he on his own here? They’re worried that he’s his father’s son. They’re worried that Rand Paul is an isolationist. They’re worried that Rand Paul’s diatribe on drones really means that Rand Paul wants to bring the military home and not use it unless we’re attacked. He doesn’t like it being used in an intervention. This is what they fear. And as he succeeds in making a connection with the American people, they are worried, the neocons are worried that they are being undermined by this.

I’ll tell you why. Rand Paul made a connection with the American people. These other people do not. He made a connection. Therefore, he has the ability to influence and motivate people. I’m telling you what their fears are. They thought that Ron Paul was absolute nutcase, wacko. That’s why they’re calling Rand Paul a wacko, ’cause that’s what they thought of Ron Paul. Libertarian, fruitcake, nutcase, isolationist, shut down the US military, speak positively about Islamists, all this kind of stuff. They are afraid that’s who Rand Paul is, and they’re afraid that what Rand Paul was doing with this filibuster was not just speaking out against the use of drones on American citizens on American soil. They’re afraid that Rand Paul is actually setting the stage for building up public support to stop the interventionist usage of American military might and foreign policy all over the world. It’s a fear that they’ve got.

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They’re afraid that Rand Paul is actually setting the stage for building up public support to stop the interventionist usage of American military might and foreign policy all over the world. It’s a fear that they’ve got.

Rush is dead on right here……they, (the old bulls), are afraid. Jazz said the other day: “Perhaps everything is just more extreme these days.”

You want to see “extreme”??? Stand by, and watch the RINOs begging for support in this next election cycle. It won’t be pretty.

Rovin on March 8, 2013 at 9:43 PM

Shabbat Shalom! To you ALT!!!

Scrumpy on March 8, 2013 at 9:44 PM

SparkPlug on March 8, 2013 at 9:37 PM

We’ll use another example. Bill Ayers and the gang planning the attack on Ft. Dix, off limits. Bill Ayers and gang planting bombs (this is hypothetical since some of them offed themselves making the bombs) at Ft. Dix, drone target gold.

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2013 at 9:45 PM

Wish I could barf all over the crease of his pants…

Scrumpy on March 8, 2013 at 9:37 PM

It just so happens, I can arrange that for you. ; )

Bmore on March 8, 2013 at 9:45 PM

I’m for gun free zones on drones.

SparkPlug on March 8, 2013 at 9:45 PM

Resist We Much on March 8, 2013 at 9:43 PM

Dang! Do we think this is urgency brought on by the filibuster? He might want to rethink that much exposure.

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2013 at 9:46 PM

Bmore on March 8, 2013 at 9:45 PM

I thank you in advance!! :-)

Scrumpy on March 8, 2013 at 9:48 PM

I wonder if Sen. McCain would have been okay with a drone taking out Maj. Nidal Hasan during his attack on Ft. Hood? He is an American citizen that I believe would have qualified as an enemy combatant and the danger was imminent. I think that would be legal, not some doofus sitting in a coffee shop planning stuff on his computer.

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2013 at 9:34 PM

But that was a case of work-place-violence

And that’s the danger- if the President can define who is a danger to the homeland and who is not, and in secret, we’re all in danger. And there is no law.

Oh, and McCain is an idiot.

Curtiss on March 8, 2013 at 9:48 PM

All my tweets are on hot air. I don’t use twitter.

SparkPlug on March 8, 2013 at 9:48 PM

I’m for gun free zones on drones.

SparkPlug on March 8, 2013 at 9:45 PM

What about mine?

cozmo on March 8, 2013 at 9:50 PM

Jackalope on March 8, 2013 at 9:43 PM

Yes I know and I always appreciate the corrections. I think that many times I am typing the way I speak.

Bmore on March 8, 2013 at 9:50 PM

INC on March 8, 2013 at 9:45 PM

That in itself was disgusting.

0 could have used that money to keep the WH open for schoolkids tours.

That the man has such gall, really irks my ire!

Scrumpy on March 8, 2013 at 9:50 PM

Curtiss on March 8, 2013 at 9:48 PM

The long and the short of it Curtiss!! Well said :-)

Scrumpy on March 8, 2013 at 9:50 PM

I just keep picturing the opening scene from terminator…

And find a need to break out my salvation army bought Constitutional law books to study due process.

And wonder why in a representative republic I feel the dire need to do as much. Is it the history books that spark my fear?

I think so.

wolly4321 on March 8, 2013 at 9:50 PM

McCain mentioned former Sen. Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.), who died in 2010 at age 92, while still in office.

“Unfortunately, we remember people as they are rather than the way they were,” he said. “I revered Sen. Robert Byrd. Sen. Robert Byrd, when I first came to the Senate, he knew the Senate, he was the toughest guy, he was – I mean, he was fair, he was incredible. You know, the last I remember of Robert Byrd is he’s sitting there in his seat in the Senate, in a very unfortunate physical condition.

“I think two years from now is the time to think whether I would want to run for office again,” McCain said.

“I do think that I have seen individuals, men, who were at the top of their game and stayed to the point where they were not only not at the top of their game, but they were kind of objects of our sympathy. I don’t want to be one of those.”

lol..You won’t be an object of any sympathy here,now or ever. Your service & the POW torture you endured-yes- other then that buh bye. Just retire and feed the birds-drink bud light all day with your fat mouthed daughter.

As for wacko birds with mega phones..he has been holding a pretty big media mega phone for years. Including lots of name calling and insults to citizens and the party-hobbits,bigots& now wacko birds. Takes one to know one Johnny.

bazil9 on March 8, 2013 at 9:50 PM

Oh, and McCain is an idiot.

Curtiss on March 8, 2013 at 9:48 PM

Yeah he is. Obviously I don’t want any president to have that kind of “flexibility”, especially one that leaves his ambassadors without security.

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2013 at 9:51 PM

bazil9 on March 8, 2013 at 9:50 PM

I wonder if he even knows how much he is dispised right now?

It’s past time he was put out to pasture…

Scrumpy on March 8, 2013 at 9:52 PM

Scrumpy on March 8, 2013 at 9:50 PM

I saw a link at the Weekly Standard that said the WH employs three calligraphers for a total of I think it was $250K+

Now what do they do all day? Why do we need them?

I can see maybe the Library of Congress or The Smithsonian employing one calligrapher who could be loaned to other branches, but there are numerous fonts that can be used.

INC on March 8, 2013 at 9:53 PM

INC on March 8, 2013 at 9:53 PM

Yeah I commented on that yesterday.

0′s need them cuz either of them only write in ‘Eubonics’!!

o-O

Scrumpy on March 8, 2013 at 9:55 PM

Does anyone else here have the same ‘fear’? That Rand will turn out to really be his fathers’ son?

Personally, I don’t not at this point.

Scrumpy on March 8, 2013 at 9:43 PM

No, I don’t…and I am a brutal, long-time, on-the-record, bona fide, almost Homer-Simpson-shaking-my-fist-at-the-sky-like critic of Paul Pot and the Paulistinians.

And, I’ll tell you this, if I were given a choice between “making the world safe for democracy through some good, old-fashioned American interventionism and nation-building” and “The Mo Doctrine,” I’m going with the latter.

What was one of the things that McCain said during the 2008 campaign that alarmed many people (granted, it was taken somewhat out of context): The line about keeping troops in Iraq for 100 years. Americans don’t want troops in Iraq or Afghanistan, etc, for 100 years. A growing number don’t even want them in South Korea or Japan or Germany either.

Besides, I think that fiscal constraints are going to put an end – for a long while, at least – American forays around the world.

At the end of the day, does anyone think that we are better off because we “liberated” Libyans, but “abandoned” Syrians?

The Muslim world hates us even more because Libya is an oil-state and Syria is not-so-much. Where did we use military power? Which people did we decide to “save”?

Sadly, none of this seems to register with McCain.

Resist We Much on March 8, 2013 at 9:56 PM

INC on March 8, 2013 at 9:45 PM

This could have been held at the White House. I hear it has banquet rooms, chefs, fancy China, silverware, etc.

bw222 on March 8, 2013 at 9:56 PM

Holder didn’t use the phrase “actively attacking.” And administration officials privately agreed on Friday that “not engaged in combat” was the key phrase going forward. None of them agreed to define the expression on the record.

None of them agreed because these decisions are sooper sekrit. They can change from hour to hour, just as the stories about what happened in Benghazi did.

The administration is relying on lawyerly weasel words to hide their agenda.

Instead of zapping BinLaden’s son-in-law, who was released from Turkey via Jordan, with a drone, the AlQaeda consigliere was whisked to NYC for a civil trial. The precedents of how we treat alien combatants has been re-written from here on out. For “enemies of the state” as Obysmal and Holder define them, there won’t be that same opportunity apparently.

BTW I do not have the sense that Sen. Rand Paul is an isolationist. I think that he was redirecting America’s attention to insisting on accountability and limits on executive power. The Senate has the right to oversight and clear, unequivocal explanations.

onlineanalyst on March 8, 2013 at 9:56 PM

They have 3 calligraphers, cuz 2 need to write and one has to double check all spelling and punctuation then form and style!!

;-D

Scrumpy on March 8, 2013 at 9:57 PM

“I do think that I have seen individuals, men, who were at the top of their game and stayed to the point where they were not only not at the top of their game, but they were kind of objects of our sympathy. I don’t want to be one of those.”

Take a long look in the mirror Mr. McCain….you’ve hit rock bottom. Sympathy? Most of the nation has been laughing AT you for two days.

Rovin on March 8, 2013 at 9:58 PM

Scrumpy on March 8, 2013 at 9:55, 9:57 PM

:)

I used to dabble in calligraphy. Who knew that I should have worked on it as a professional skill for the 21st century!

INC on March 8, 2013 at 9:58 PM

Yes I know and I always appreciate the corrections. I think that many times I am typing the way I speak.

Bmore on March 8, 2013 at 9:50 PM

And I feel 13 years old, teasing you because I like you.

Jackalope on March 8, 2013 at 9:58 PM

This could have been held at the White House. I hear it has banquet rooms, chefs, fancy China, silverware, etc.

bw222 on March 8, 2013 at 9:56 PM

Ha ha!

But then he wouldn’t have been able to have the six-block show of pomp and circumstance!

INC on March 8, 2013 at 10:00 PM

And I feel 13 years old, teasing you because I like you.

Jackalope on March 8, 2013 at 9:58 PM

I thought you were 13?

cozmo on March 8, 2013 at 10:01 PM

Resist We Much on March 8, 2013 at 9:56 PM

I tweeted you. I figured I should practice. True I could have just asked you here, but I need to learn better about the tweety.

Bmore on March 8, 2013 at 10:01 PM

Resist We Much on March 8, 2013 at 9:56 PM
And, I’ll tell you this, if I were given a choice between “making the world safe for democracy through some good, old-fashioned American interventionism and nation-building” and “The Mo Doctrine,” I’m going with the latter.

Can’t say as I disagree with you on that score hon, I’d pick the latter too!!

You are strong on every point… :-)

Thanks so much for replying!

Scrumpy on March 8, 2013 at 10:01 PM

I’m not one of those “military industrial complex” nutjobs. But will someone with a better platform please follow the money on mclame. He does nothing for this state. He is 100% in bed with the money. I am sure of it.

wolly4321 on March 8, 2013 at 10:01 PM

Giant spiders are invading Florida. It was on drudge.

SparkPlug on March 8, 2013 at 9:42 Pm

The female galinipper (Psorophora ciliata), a very large mosquito with hairy legs, feeds day and night and are common in Florida.

Sounds like Moochelle. maybe she laid some eggs.

bazil9 on March 8, 2013 at 10:02 PM

I thought you were 13?

cozmo on March 8, 2013 at 10:01 PM

Thank goodness I’m past those middle-school years!

Jackalope on March 8, 2013 at 10:03 PM

Truth be known. The reason I am doing the photoshop thingy is because unlike many here at HA I am not very good at serious commenting. In pictures I can communicate a bit better. They both take effort. So far the reception to the new way of communicating I have elected to use here has been positive. ; )

Bmore on March 8, 2013 at 10:04 PM

Okay, but you may not like it. Fore warned. Supper down at the White house.

Bmore on March 8, 2013 at 9:06 PM

THAT has to viral…!

*clinky!*

:)

Seven Percent Solution on March 8, 2013 at 10:04 PM

Sounds like Moochelle. maybe she laid some eggs.

bazil9 on March 8, 2013 at 10:02 PM

Photoshop request? Interesting visual with Easter on the way and all. Hmmm………. ; )

Bmore on March 8, 2013 at 10:05 PM

http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2013/03/air-force-drone-airstrike-summary-030813/

Catch this! Off of Drudge…

AF removes RPA airstrike number from summary…

Scrumpy on March 8, 2013 at 10:05 PM

Dang! Do we think this is urgency brought on by the filibuster? He might want to rethink that much exposure.

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2013 at 9:46 PM

Especially when you consider the fact that he, ostensibly, was going on these shows to promote his new book on immigration – WHICH HE BASICALLY DISOWNED THE DAY AFTER IT WAS PUBLISHED.

Resist We Much on March 8, 2013 at 10:06 PM

Seven Percent Solution on March 8, 2013 at 10:04 PM

*clinky!* 7%, anyone you’d like to add? At least we all finally know how he gets his lips that way. ; )

Bmore on March 8, 2013 at 10:06 PM

Quote:

On Feb. 20, two days before the metadata indicates the scrubbed files were created, Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., sent a letter to Brennan saying that he would filibuster the nomination over concerns about using RPA strikes inside the U.S., a threat he carried out for over 12 hours on March 6 (Brennan was confirmed the next day).

That same day, Sen. Lindsay Graham, R-S.C., told a crowd in South Carolina that strikes by American RPAs have killed 4,700 people.

“Sometimes you hit innocent people, and I hate that, but we’re at war, and we’ve taken out some very senior members of al-Qaida,” Graham was quoted by the Patch website as saying.

Unquote…

What’s going on here eh?

Scrumpy on March 8, 2013 at 10:07 PM

Truth be known. The reason I am doing the photoshop thingy is because unlike many here at HA I am not very good at serious commenting. In pictures I can communicate a bit better. They both take effort. So far the reception to the new way of communicating I have elected to use here has been positive. ; )

Bmore on March 8, 2013 at 10:04 PM

Ramirez is brilliant with pictures :)

Jackalope on March 8, 2013 at 10:09 PM

Roveschins..been a while.
How many chins you up to now?
Keeping up on removing the funk between the folds?

bazil9 on March 8, 2013 at 9:29 PM

I cherish my neck crust.
The more Fox pays me, the more chins I have to feed.

RovesChins on March 8, 2013 at 10:09 PM

Bmore on March 8, 2013 at 10:04 PM

You DO articulate rather well my good chap!!

Just lovin’ all the images you do!! ^5

Scrumpy on March 8, 2013 at 10:10 PM

To listen to Paul, you’d think America was already a police state, and the planet its evil playground.

Amazing how many smart people are overstating or understating what he said, or plain missing the point.

I got no sense that Paul felt this or was suggesting this. Rather, what Paul did so well was to tap into the widening feeling that we’re on a trajectory to this reality, that the prevailing mindset of government is stretching and consolidating power beyond any previous norm, to the point where we can all imagine such a world. Because we can, and because we are right to.

I haven’t ever seen a political leader basically riff on the notion and reality of liberty under duress, not like this. It was tonic. By doing this, by confining his conversation just to the matter of drones, Paul deftly addressed profound national anxieties the Establishment obviously cannot grasp.

rrpjr on March 8, 2013 at 10:10 PM

Bmore & Scrumpy: Thanks.

B, I tweeted you. So practise “checking your feed.”

Resist We Much on March 8, 2013 at 10:11 PM

Go with it Bmore. But I disagree slightly. Your posts in words are just fine, too.

wolly4321 on March 8, 2013 at 10:12 PM

Does anyone else here have the same ‘fear’? That Rand will turn out to really be his fathers’ son?

Personally, I don’t at this point.

Scrumpy on March 8, 2013 at 9:43 PM

He’s clearly not as nutty as his father. But as a worst case scenario, it’s still better than Obama or the Establishment GOP.

Curtiss on March 8, 2013 at 10:12 PM

To listen to Paul, you’d think America was already a police state, and the planet its evil playground.

Does he think Obama is going to kill innocent citizens like some kind of tyrant?

“I don’t question the president’s motives. I don’t think the president would purposely take innocent people and kill them. I really don’t think he would drop a Hellfire missile on a cafe or a restaurant like I’m talking about. But it bothers me that he won’t say that he won’t …. This decision to let this go, to let this nomination go without an answer is a big mistake for us. If we do this, if we let this nomination go without a debate, without significant opposition, without demanding more answers from the president, the problem is, is we’re never getting any more answers …. Our rights are gradually eroding. I think they are gradually slipping away from us. I think the understanding of the Constitution as a document that restrains your government, that restrains the size and scope of your government has been lost on a lot of people, and I think it’s something we shouldn’t give up on …

“When we’re talking about changing the way that we adjudicate guilt, changing the way we decide someone’s life or death, it’s too important just to say, oh, Mr. President, go ahead and do it and as long as you tell me you have no intent of breaking the law or no intent of killing Americans.

“It just simply isn’t enough.

“I, frankly, don’t think he will be killing people in restaurants tonight or in their house tonight. But this is about the rule of law. It isn’t so much about him. It isn’t so much about John Brennan …. This is about the body of the Constitution. It’s about our respect for it. And it’s about whether or not we will hold these principles so dear that we’re willing to try to enjoin a debate to try to get both sides to talk about this and to try to admit because we don’t want people to be killed who are innocent in America. We want to have the process that has protected our freedoms for a couple hundred years now to remain in place, and we’re unwilling to diminish that simply because of fear.”


Cliffs Notes for the Filibuster: Rand Paul in His Own Words

Resist We Much on March 8, 2013 at 10:13 PM

Paul deftly addressed profound national anxieties the Establishment obviously cannot grasp.

rrpjr on March 8, 2013 at 10:10 PM

Oh I believe they grasp it alright.

They just didn’t figure on millions of americans having grasped it!

If one listens to the left, we are all deaf dumb daft as well as blind! Amongst other things…

Scrumpy on March 8, 2013 at 10:14 PM

Resist We Much on March 8, 2013 at 10:06 PM

Oppsie! Sounds like we might get some fine examples of nothing being said out of both sides of his mouth.

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2013 at 10:15 PM

He’s clearly not as nutty as his father. But as a worst case scenario, it’s still better than Obama or the Establishment GOP.

Curtiss on March 8, 2013 at 10:12 PM

Very good point. I just shake my head and cry. Honey Boo Boo’s family wouldn’t do any worse than Barry and Mav.

arnold ziffel on March 8, 2013 at 10:17 PM

Bmore on March 8, 2013 at 10:04 PM

You aren’t an either or talent, you excel bother verbally and artistically. And you are having fun.

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2013 at 10:17 PM

They have 3 calligraphers, cuz 2 need to write and one has to double check all spelling and punctuation then form and style!!

;-D

Scrumpy on March 8, 2013 at 9:57 PM

Well, maybe that spellchecker calligrapher can moonlight over at the communications office:

White House: “Lez Gits Dems Chilluns Edjumicated!”

Resist We Much on March 8, 2013 at 10:18 PM

Oppsie! Sounds like we might get some fine examples of nothing being said out of both sides of his mouth.

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2013 at 10:15 PM

As the Bush family’s Charlie Crist, he does an excellent job of that.

Resist We Much on March 8, 2013 at 10:20 PM

Resist We Much on March 8, 2013 at 10:18 PM

Giggle giggle :-D

Scrumpy on March 8, 2013 at 10:20 PM

bazil9 on March 8, 2013 at 9:50 PM

I wonder if he even knows how much he is dispised right now?

It’s past time he was put out to pasture…

Scrumpy on March 8, 2013 at 9:52 PM

Right now?:)
If he does, he doesnt care. He’s sooo mavickery..and proud of it.
The only thing that stopped me from literally hurling when I voted for him-rather..against Barry- Was Palin. I went to her rallies..not his.
Lets ponder back to the debates long ago when he stood their railing against water boarding and got his angry red face on..and lashed out at his opponents who supported it. His sanctimonious look- Hey! I am John McCain-a son of Admirals, a combat vet-ex-pow..I am the authority!
FF to now..killing is cool..just no water boarding and enhanced interrogation tactics please. Trust us in DC my friends.

Election time..he comes on strong about the border-slaps on his Navy cap and walks the border in AZ for an ad…laughable.
Where is he on the 500 + illegals just released in his state? Yawn..
Pasture is right..time to chew his cud outside of DC.
.

bazil9 on March 8, 2013 at 10:21 PM

B, I tweeted you. So practise “checking your feed.”

Resist We Much on March 8, 2013 at 10:11 PM

Ha! You spelled practice wrong. I feel redeemed! Lol! ; ) The copy of T & T I just posted here is modestly better I think. See if you think so.

Bmore on March 8, 2013 at 10:23 PM

It’s past time he was put out to pasture…

Scrumpy on March 8, 2013 at 9:52 PM

Thanks scrump, I’ve been waiting for a day and a half to play
fletcher’s but nobody gave me the lead in. I found this and it adds so much more to it.

Not now John/Fletcher’s memorial home.

http://youtu.be/LRIJygFeb3E

Fred

jrsrigmvr on March 8, 2013 at 10:23 PM

*clinky!* 7%, anyone you’d like to add? At least we all finally know how he gets his lips that way. ; )

Bmore on March 8, 2013 at 10:06 PM

Steve Kroft, Brian Williams, Wolf Blitzer, etc., etc., …

:)

*cliny!*

Seven Percent Solution on March 8, 2013 at 10:23 PM

bazil9 on March 8, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Right on young lady!!

Scrumpy on March 8, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Ramirez is brilliant with pictures :)

Jackalope on March 8, 2013 at 10:09 PM

I love his work! I have been following him since they tried to blackball him. Do you remember that incident?

Bmore on March 8, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Scrumpy on March 8, 2013 at 9:57 PM

They need to lose a calligrapher or two and get someone strong in phonics so he can stop mispronouncing things from the teleprompter.

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2013 at 10:25 PM

Ok RWM. Cliffnotes? On a 12 hour event?

You rock, bigtime.

Thank you. ;>).

wolly4321 on March 8, 2013 at 10:25 PM

Republican elites are a bunch of pussies?

Damn, who knew?

Speakup on March 8, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Have to go for a while… I’ll be back later if I can!!

God Bless and have fun!!

*swoosh*

Scrumpy on March 8, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Little 7% is recovering from the flu…

… Time to go be Dad.

Until next time…

Seven Percent Solution on March 8, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Resist We Much on March 8, 2013 at 10:20 PM

Now now, there is no reason to calling the poor guy Charlie Crist. He was actually a very good governor and I am sure a lovely man but the press will only allow Americans one dynasty and that is the Kennedys. And look what it has done for them.

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2013 at 10:28 PM

Good Night 7%, Tell little 7% to feel better. ; )

Bmore on March 8, 2013 at 10:28 PM

Our Embarrassment who squats in the White House
Scorned for eternity be whatever is his real name
May he get in full what to him does come
May his reign of law breaking soon be done
Put him in prison and only give him water and bread
Frog march him away to darkness
Thus delivering us from evil
Amen

Cheshire Cat on March 8, 2013 at 10:29 PM

Seven Percent Solution on March 8, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Ahhh, sorry to hear that, feel better Little 7%, it’ll get better before you get married.

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2013 at 10:29 PM

Truth be known. The reason I am doing the photoshop thingy is because unlike many here at HA I am not very good at serious commenting.

Bmore on March 8, 2013 at 10:04 PM

huh? I would disagree.

Photoshop request? Interesting visual with Easter on the way and all. Hmmm………. ; )

Bmore on March 8, 2013 at 10:05 PM

Could be amusing. :) Its on Drudge.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/story/21554128/mega-mosquito-galinipper-could-invade-florida-this-summer

Maybe she dyes galinipper eggs and stamps them with an O logo.
Notice in the article, they don’t like the city but rural area’s. I think it’s a plot. Skeeter warfare against those who cling to their guns.

bazil9 on March 8, 2013 at 10:31 PM

Resist We Much on March 8, 2013 at 10:18 PM

And to correct O’s grammar.

INC on March 8, 2013 at 10:31 PM

Sounds like Moochelle. maybe she laid some eggs.

bazil9 on March 8, 2013 at 10:02 PM

Haha. A hairy bow legged egg layer plopping on the white house lawn.

SparkPlug on March 8, 2013 at 10:32 PM

Cheshire Cat on March 8, 2013 at 10:29 PM

Darlin, we’ll be lucky if he doesn’t talk the goofy people of this nation into giving him a third term.

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2013 at 10:34 PM

Does anyone know where they are housing OBL’s son in law?
I’d like to send him John McCain wrapped in bacon.

RovesChins on March 8, 2013 at 10:35 PM

I love his work! I have been following him since they tried to blackball him. Do you remember that incident?

Bmore on March 8, 2013 at 10:24 PM

hmmmmmm….I do not remember that.

—-

This thread will have more of my attention now that it looks like the Blackhawks’ streak is ending.

Jackalope on March 8, 2013 at 10:35 PM

Ha! You spelled practice wrong. I feel redeemed! Lol! ; )

Bmore on March 8, 2013 at 10:23 PM

Nuh-uh! YOU spelled it wrong! It is practiSe, not practiCe. You also spell favour, neighbour, foetus, and labour wrong, too, but I just don’t call you out on it because you’re my chum and I don’t want to embarrass you! LOLOLOLOLOL!

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2013 at 10:28 PM

OK, I take it back.

“I was for a pathway to legalisation before I was against it or I was for a pathway for citizenship but now support a pathway to legalisation or something. Damn, I’m so confused.”

So are the rest of us, Governor. :-)

wolly4321 on March 8, 2013 at 10:25 PM

I am accepting the “You Rock!” award on behalf of Conor Friedersdorf, who could not be here this evening. I would like to thank the Academy…

:-)

Resist We Much on March 8, 2013 at 10:36 PM

Okay, I’m back.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 8, 2013 at 10:36 PM

O/T @politico Jeb Bush will appear on ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, CNN and Univision this Sunday

Puke.

Resist We Much on March 8, 2013 at 9:43 PM

You left out Lifetime— “I Care, I’m Here for you America.”

arnold ziffel on March 8, 2013 at 10:37 PM

bazil9 on March 8, 2013 at 10:31 PM

I think I’ll try to make one up. In front of White house laying 0 logo’d eggs on the lawn. Maybe some protesters. Lol! ; )

Bmore on March 8, 2013 at 10:38 PM

Resist We Much on March 8, 2013 at 10:36 PM

Lol! I knew that was coming. Hey, at least I know what a spanner is, right? ; )

Bmore on March 8, 2013 at 10:39 PM

Okay, I’m back.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 8, 2013 at 10:36 PM

No your not…. ;p

SWalker on March 8, 2013 at 10:40 PM

RovesChins on March 8, 2013 at 10:35 PM

Ritz-Carlton?

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2013 at 10:40 PM

a quick Hi to the HA evening crew

y’all have fun

:)

cmsinaz on March 8, 2013 at 10:40 PM

Bmore on March 8, 2013 at 10:39 PM

I bet she pronounces aluminum funny.

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2013 at 10:41 PM

RovesChins on March 8, 2013 at 10:35 PM

In the WH basement discussing
how the Muz call to prayer is one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset and sharing a Kool.

bazil9 on March 8, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Holder didn’t use the phrase “actively attacking.” And administration officials privately agreed on Friday that “not engaged in combat” was the key phrase going forward. None of them agreed to define the expression on the record.

But next year..
If I am not “Actively” participating in health insurance..
The IRS will attack me..
Funny huh?

Electrongod on March 8, 2013 at 10:42 PM

McCain and Graham have violated Ronald Reagan’s 11th commandment said, “Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican.”

Kini on March 8, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Notice what it took for this administration just to affirm what’s made very plain in our Constitution, 13 hours of filibuster later, Eric Holder begrudgingly sends a very short almost terse two page answer, No, the DOJ may not subvert due process.

A terrible blow to those who want Obama to be a lot more like Hugo Chavez.

Speakup on March 8, 2013 at 10:42 PM

i think our foreign policy is really distorted by our energy policy. Pretend that we had the oil/nat gas/nukes that we well could have with some effort..we would be energy independent. That would seriously facilitate a neo-isolationism…imho.

honestly, it is imho too bad that we have chosen a different path to go down. One of international dependence. I think we pay a steep price for that. The implicit price of our energy is very high. perhaps our country can advance to that stage…but something tells me there’s lots of people who don’t want to…preferring to join in a new world order.

if rand paul has started that conservation, we’ll be much better off. We are too constrained by the internationalist sensibilities of the upper classes

r keller on March 8, 2013 at 10:43 PM

bazil9 on March 8, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Good evening B9 so very nice to see you this evening. ;)

SWalker on March 8, 2013 at 10:43 PM

“Unfortunately, we remember people as they are rather than the way they were,” he said. “I revered Sen. Robert Byrd. Sen. Robert Byrd, when I first came to the Senate, he knew the Senate, he was the toughest guy, he was – I mean, he was fair, he was incredible. You know, the last I remember of Robert Byrd is he’s sitting there in his seat in the Senate, in a very unfortunate physical condition.

That right there is another example of why you are a detriment to the country. Byrd was obviously unable to hold the position and make rational decisions that affect millions, yet you are in awe of him Mac.

arnold ziffel on March 8, 2013 at 10:43 PM

Kini on March 8, 2013 at 10:42 PM

I bet they didn’t like him either. According to gossip lore, the Reagans were very good friends with the first Mrs. McCain and did not embrace the shiny new model into D.C. society.

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2013 at 10:45 PM

I bet she pronounces aluminum funny.

Cindy Munford on March 8, 2013 at 10:41 PM

Hard to type that one to make it sound her way. Lol! Al-u-min-i-m….?

Bmore on March 8, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Kini on March 8, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Quandary. I guess I violate that rule every day whereas McCain and Grahamnesty are concerned. I guess that makes me a Reagan rule breaker and a bad R. Or does the rule only apply to pols?

Bmore on March 8, 2013 at 10:47 PM

No your not…. ;p

SWalker on March 8, 2013 at 10:40 PM

I’m a fig newton of my own imagination…and it’s “you’re”.
*runs like hell!*

annoyinglittletwerp on March 8, 2013 at 10:47 PM

John Podhoretz has a column featured in the HA news links bashing Rand Paul as dangerous. In the past 20 years, no group has been as dangerous to the U.S. and as destructive to the GOP as neocons like Podhoretz, Bill Kristol, John McCain and Lindsey Graham who want to commit U.S. resources for nation-building around the world.

bw222 on March 8, 2013 at 10:48 PM

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