Lindsey Graham to GOP senators: Funny how you guys didn’t worry about drones under Bush

posted at 4:01 pm on March 7, 2013 by Allahpundit

Via Mediaite, here’s why I said in the McCain post that I didn’t share Mollie Hemingway’s receding cynicism. I trust that Paul would have the same objections to drone policy under a Republican president. I trust that Mike Lee would too. Beyond that, things get iffy. Glenn Greenwald has a point here:

Graham’s the right guy to challenge Paul because he is, in his own way, as nonpartisan on executive counterterrorism power as Paul is. If I understand him correctly, he ends up arguing at the end here that “enemy combatant” status is itself sufficient to justify a drone strike on a U.S. citizen on American soil whether or not he’s carrying out an attack at the time. This is the same guy who once lamented that we couldn’t rein in Koran-burning on grounds that, and I quote, “Free speech is a great idea, but we’re in a war.” This is not a guy who worries overly much about constitutional niceties when it comes to the military doing its job on counterterrorism. It’d be nice, at least, though, if he managed not to distort Paul’s point in the process. Paul’s not worried about Obama targeting noncombatants; what he’s saying is that there should be special protocols when dealing with “enemy combatants” if they’re American citizens and within reach of law enforcement here in the U.S. His point about Jane Fonda being theoretically targeted is that the definition of “enemy combatant” can be murky and potentially easily abused; to this day, the hard evidence that Awlaki was more than a propagandist and actually an operational leader is classified. Paul’s trying to draw at least one bright-line rule to limit the president’s power to unilaterally execute American citizens: In very narrow circumstances — U.S. citizen on U.S. soil who’s not presently engaged in an attack — you’ve got to send in the FBI to try to pick him up, not a Predator armed with Hellfires to take him down. Compared to the amount of anti-drone agitation in wider libertarian circles, Paul’s request here is actually conspicuously modest. He’s not asking for drone attacks in Pakistan and Yemen to end. He’s not even asking, as Graham is quick to note, that Obama quit firing at American-citizen jihadis overseas. He wants some acknowledged limit on executive power and he chose the strongest conceptual ground on which to ask for it.

But look. Graham’s not really worried about Paul’s drone position here. What he’s worried about is a sea change inside the GOP caucus towards the isolationist view of the war on terror. I can imagine the look on his face when he saw Marco Rubio, the great interventionist hope, head to the floor yesterday afternoon to lend Paul a hand. (Rubio’s not going to make it easy for Paul to paint him as the GOP’s next crazed superhawk in 2016.) After 11 years of war it’s doubtless true that isolationism has more fans among Republicans than at any time in the last few decades; to see a member of the Paul family suddenly the party’s new hero must be a nightmare for McCain and Graham. As Ace puts it:

Now it’s possible they’re suspicious of Rand Paul and think he’s carrying water for his father’s Doctrinaire Pacifism but under the false flag of a much more narrow issue on which he has the right; that is, they think he’s trying to move opinion to the Doctrine Pacifist camp in the typical way the Pacifists and anti-American agitators do it, to wit, seizing one one particular grabby issue at a time.

I have to confess I have the same suspicion. I do believe Rand Paul is his father’s son.

So do I, and so I think do lots of mainstream conservatives, which is why Graham’s worries are overblown. The cynicism-inducing question from last night’s Senate insurrection is how many of them mean it and how many of them pitched in simply because it was an irresistible chance to publicly humiliate Obama on a basic constitutional question. The retail politics of it were so winning that I actually thought McCain and Graham might themselves swing by to offer some sort of tepid endorsement of minimal executive accountability. Didn’t happen, but I also don’t think Paul’s stand presages any tidal shift in the Republican caucus. Anyone believe, if O orders a raid on Iran’s reactors tomorrow, the GOP as a body will react with paleocon laments about imperialism and U.S. aggression? Graham’s not really talking to Paul and Mike Lee here (note his persistent backhanded compliments of Paul at the beginning for being a principled libertarian), he’s simply warning the rest that he knows grandstanding when he sees it and is prepared to call them on it if they keep it up.


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SparkPlug on May 13, 2013 at 1:06 AM

Good evening, Spark. It’s wonderful to see you… and to see that your on the job, too. You’re a good man, Spark. :)

thatsafactjack on May 13, 2013 at 1:08 AM

the basis of their worldview is malicious. And that can not be forgotten.

tom daschle concerned on May 13, 2013 at 1:04 AM

Indeed. A prosperous people are difficult to control, making prosperity anathema to their designs.

wolfsDad on May 13, 2013 at 1:09 AM

I made some films.

Licked a window pane, left a film.
Sneezed, left a film on my puter screen.

SparkPlug on May 13, 2013 at 1:09 AM

Axe, hows your affair with you-know-who going? Hot and torrid, I suppose. Don’t get swept off your feet, young man. ;-)

tommy71 on May 13, 2013 at 1:10 AM

Sneezed, left a film on my puter screen.

SparkPlug on May 13, 2013 at 1:09 AM

That will stain, Pippin.

Axe on May 13, 2013 at 1:10 AM

williamg on May 13, 2013 at 12:53 AM

You might be a redneck if:

Your grandmother keeps a spit cup on the ironing board.

You’ve ever been too drunk to fish.

A relative’s last words were: “Hey ya’ll… watch me try this.”

You’ve fished from a boat while it’s moving down the highway.

You think a Volvo is part of the female anatomy.

viking01 on May 13, 2013 at 1:10 AM

The first thing to go thru you mind is also teh first thing to hit the ground when you get swept off your feet.

tom daschle concerned on May 13, 2013 at 1:11 AM

KCB on May 13, 2013 at 1:05 AM

Goodnight, Ken. I may not be able to make it tomorrow. I’m still working… I only got a break for a few minutes this evening in between issues. Sleep well. :)

thatsafactjack on May 13, 2013 at 1:11 AM

thatsafactjack on May 13, 2013 at 1:08 AM

Thanks MG. You are the best MG in the galaxy. There was a fire in a train engine so I put it out. Smoke was coming out of a big pipe too.

People complained when I put it out. Not sure why they got their wet panties in a wad.

SparkPlug on May 13, 2013 at 1:11 AM

Axe on May 13, 2013 at 1:10 AM

It was filmed in 3D.

SparkPlug on May 13, 2013 at 1:12 AM

I made some films.

Licked a window pane, left a film.
Sneezed, left a film on my puter screen.

SparkPlug on May 13, 2013 at 1:09 AM

Thank you for not mentioning your chair.

(ducks ashtray)

viking01 on May 13, 2013 at 1:14 AM

I’ve got to go.

Goodnight, Paladin. Thanks for looking after the Glade. :)

thatsafactjack on May 13, 2013 at 1:14 AM

See me with PJ 8D

tom daschle concerned on May 13, 2013 at 1:15 AM

So whats the official topic? Yawn!

tommy71 on May 13, 2013 at 1:16 AM

Goodnight, Paladin. Thanks for looking after the Glade. :)

thatsafactjack on May 13, 2013 at 1:14 AM

You are welcome. I will be large and in charge while you are gone.

Is Paladin my new code name or something?

SparkPlug on May 13, 2013 at 1:16 AM

Axe, hows your affair with you-know-who going? Hot and torrid, I suppose. Don’t get swept off your feet, young man. ;-)

tommy71 on May 13, 2013 at 1:10 AM

If you are referring to my affinity for our lawyer, she’s still as perfect as she was yesterday, thus the one moment that is life continues as one might expect, and a man might find value in something otherwise absolutely inexplicable.

It was filmed in 3D.

SparkPlug on May 13, 2013 at 1:12 AM

. . . 3d staining . . .

Fascinating.

Axe on May 13, 2013 at 1:17 AM

Nite, Jackie.

tommy71 on May 13, 2013 at 1:17 AM

Axe, lawyers are sharks. They’ll cut you up, and eat your heart out. Just a word of warning. ;-)

tommy71 on May 13, 2013 at 1:19 AM

My next film will be thick with suspense but not a gooey chick flick.

SparkPlug on May 13, 2013 at 1:19 AM

cozmo on May 12, 2013 at 9:58 PM

I like to respond to trolls. It’s fun to watch them implode. I’m just a people (so to speak) watcher.

Cindy Munford on May 13, 2013 at 1:21 AM

The Whole of the Moon

Schadenfreude on May 13, 2013 at 1:23 AM

Jackie…..you are just SO COOL!

williamg on May 13, 2013 at 1:23 AM

Sometimes this place gets kinda empty

tom daschle concerned on May 13, 2013 at 1:24 AM

I’ve got to go.

Goodnight, Paladin. Thanks for looking after the Glade. :)

thatsafactjack on May 13, 2013 at 1:14 AM

I’m following you out. :) I’ll see you in the email world. :)

Someone, please ask God to send an angel to pick up his passed out angel and take her to bed. She worked herself silly again and nodded off. She does that when trolls are afoot.

*whispers ‘night sophie’*

Hope all moms had a great mom’s day! :) INC — hope your boy appreciated the gingerbread!

Night, everyone.

Axe, lawyers are sharks. They’ll cut you up, and eat your heart out. Just a word of warning. ;-)

tommy71 on May 13, 2013 at 1:19 AM

She can do with it whatever she’d like. Nothing, anything, everything. Hers. :) I realized recently that I was never in any sort of steering posture. And I trust her with it more than I trust me with it, anyway. She’s amazing.

And a total nougat, you know.

*shrug*

I just dig her.

My next film will be thick with suspense but not a gooey chick flick.

SparkPlug on May 13, 2013 at 1:19 AM

Think Noir. Mine involves a psychiatrist in a horse mask, deep space transmissions, a tin-foil helmet made from Dr. Pepper cans, voices in the dark, and angst.

Axe on May 13, 2013 at 1:34 AM

And all I can think, is how fking depressing is that.

tom daschle concerned on May 13, 2013 at 1:39 AM

Cozmo can put his pants back on and we can all return to the reality that we aren’t in control. I can’t wait till this corporeal world rips itself apart.

tom daschle concerned on May 13, 2013 at 1:52 AM

Axe, lawyers are sharks. They’ll cut you up, and eat your heart out. Just a word of warning. ;-)

tommy71 on May 13, 2013 at 1:19 AM

You mean my ex is a lawyer?

Well, that would explain a WHOLE lot….

BlaxPac on May 13, 2013 at 2:01 AM

Related Posts:

Issa: Hillary is “not a target”
ABC: Petraeus called final Benghazi talking points “useless” the day before Rice’s full Ginsburg; Update: Transcript added

Douglas Macgregor (retired Army colonel and author of “Breaking the Phalanx): “Petraeus is a remarkable piece of fiction created and promoted by neocons in government, the media and academia, How does an officer with no personal experience of direct fire combat in Panama or Desert Storm become a division CDR in 2003, a man who for 35 years shamelessly reinforced whatever dumb idea his superiors advanced regardless of its impact on soldiers, let alone the nation, a man who served repeatedly as a sycophantic aide-de-camp, military assistant and executive officer to four stars get so far?

How does the same man who balked at closing with and destroying the enemy in 2003 in front of Baghdad agree to sacrifice more than a thousand American lives and destroy thousands of others installing Iranian national power in Baghdad with a surge that many in and out of uniform warned against? Then, how does this same man repeat the self-defeating tactics one more time in Afghanistan? The answer is simple: Petraeus was always a useful fool in the Leninist sense for his political superiors and that is precisely how history will judge him.”

VorDaj on May 13, 2013 at 2:38 AM

Diana West: “There is more at work here than a foundationally flawed strategy. In its drive to win Islamic hearts and minds, COIN doctrine has become an engine of Islamization inside the U.S. military. To win a Muslim population’s “trust,” U.S. troops are taught deference to Islam — to revere the Quran; not to spit [or pee] toward Mecca (thousands of miles away); and to condone such un- or anti-Western practices as religious supremacism, misogyny, polygamy, pederasty and cruelty to dogs. Our military has even permitted Islamic law to trump the First Amendment to further COIN goals, as when ISAF commander Petraeus publicly condemned an American citizen for exercising his lawful right to freedom of speech to burn a Quran.

This explains why the reports that CIA director David Petraeus went before the House Intelligence Committee in September and blamed a YouTube Muhammad video for the deadly attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, sounded so familiar. Whatever his motivation, it was all too easy for Petraeus to make free speech the scapegoat for Islamic violence. But so it goes in COIN-world, where jihad and Shariah (Islamic law) are off the table and the First Amendment is always to blame. If there is a lesson here, it is simple: A leader who will betray the First Amendment will betray anything.

VorDaj on May 13, 2013 at 3:04 AM

Canop SOS

We had high winds last night and
early this morning we had a huge
bang which shook our house,and i
think a massive lightening strike
hit our area,which blew out and
toasted and fried our computer and
fridge,and nieghbours lost there tv’s
modems,and other household appliances

And so,im typing on a sh*t computer,
that takes too long to be worth while!

The bang,sounded like a micro-Siberian
meteor bang,i dont know what the origin
is yet!

Talk to you all when im Operational again!

Take care,and keep da faith,from Canada!

Canopfor:)

canopfor on May 13, 2013 at 3:05 AM

canopfor on May 13, 2013 at 3:05 AM

I hope you get your computer back on-line from the mysertious micro-Siberian meteor bang.

We need your links down here in the states to function normally.

Hope your fridge gets back on-line so you can have cold beer again proto.

SparkPlug on May 13, 2013 at 4:33 AM

“Unfortunately,” she added, “the word extremist was used which isn’t not as crystal clear as terrorist.”

Liberal lexicon…

extremist” def: any who believe in God, family values, gun rights and the constitution.

patriot” Def: any who actively oppose and seek to destroy the above.oppose

Don L on May 13, 2013 at 4:34 AM

“Unfortunately,” she added, “the word extremist was used which isn’t not as crystal clear as terrorist.”

Liberal lexicon…

“extremist” def: any who believe in God, family values, gun rights and the constitution.

“patriot” Def: any who actively oppose and seek to destroy the above.oppose
Don L on May 13, 2013 at 4:34 AM

Fixed–jus woke up…zzzz.

Don L on May 13, 2013 at 4:36 AM

hit the wrong button on the alarm clock last night, woke up one hour earlier than needed to….

ugh…wheres the coffee?

cmsinaz on May 13, 2013 at 5:18 AM

so the squirrel for today???

gotta avoid irs and benghazi scandals (but don’t call them scandals)

ahhhh david cameron visiting dear leader today, msdnc and cnn will focus on this visit today

cmsinaz on May 13, 2013 at 5:21 AM

What’s incredible about dem-tards is how they claim that all of this is political and is an attack on the cover up girl, poor little Hillary Whitewater.
Sorry losers, but, covering up a matter as important as this in the midst of a close election was purely political.

kregg on May 13, 2013 at 6:04 AM

mika going with irs story first…

cmsinaz on May 13, 2013 at 6:07 AM

it looks like the msdnc will focus on the irs to avoid talking too much about benghazi…

cmsinaz on May 13, 2013 at 6:10 AM

how many times will they say this is a bush apointee

cmsinaz on May 13, 2013 at 6:11 AM

joe giving advice to the admin on what to do about irs and benghaz-need to aggressively get out front of this…

a little late with that advice, no?

cmsinaz on May 13, 2013 at 6:27 AM

It’s time to initiate a Select Committee.
http://spectator.org/archives/2013/05/13/next-the-benghazi-select-commi

onlineanalyst on May 13, 2013 at 6:31 AM

onlineanalyst on May 13, 2013 at 6:31 AM

yepper

cmsinaz on May 13, 2013 at 6:36 AM

how many times will they say this is a bush apointee

cmsinaz on May 13, 2013 at 6:11 AM

So far the only water carriers appear to be the game change boys. Mika is speechless. They are having Pickering on later and I would assume the WH is calling in the new questions and answers during this commercial break.

CTSherman on May 13, 2013 at 6:40 AM

Michael Goodwin lays the hammer down in the NY Post today.

http://bit.ly/17hr0QS

ted c on May 13, 2013 at 6:40 AM

CTSherman on May 13, 2013 at 6:40 AM

heilman is a true tool of this admin…cripe…pickering coming on later? oh yeah, softball questions defending his actions…

cmsinaz on May 13, 2013 at 6:43 AM

Shortly after, when violence in the Middle East was raging, President Obama in partnership with Hillary Clinton spent $70,000 in taxpayer money on a commercial that aired on Pakistani television apologizing for the “video.”

The American Embassy in Islamabad, in a bid to tamp down public rage over the anti-Islam film produced in the U.S., is spending $70,000 to air an ad on Pakistani television that features President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton denouncing the video.

The State Department said Thursday the embassy had compiled brief clips of Obama and Clinton rejecting the contents of the movie and extolling American tolerance for all religions into a 30-second public service announcement that is running on seven Pakistani networks. Obama and Clinton’s comments, which are from previous public events in Washington, are in English but subtitled in Urdu, the main Pakistani language.

Remember—Hillary and Obama made a video of THEIR OWN, to respin their bullsh!t about the Video….

It’s baaad to lie, but to have your sh!t translated into Urdu has got to be a whole new level or something.

ted c on May 13, 2013 at 6:43 AM

ted c on May 13, 2013 at 6:40 AM

good linky

ted c on May 13, 2013 at 6:43 AM

you won’t hear that on the lsm anytime soon…even though they were lauded back then by their lapdogs

cmsinaz on May 13, 2013 at 6:46 AM

I have met guys who work the overnight shift at 7-11, selling Slurpees and Camels to insomniacs who have more introspection than a lot of people in the mainstream media. – Bernard Goldberg “Benghazi, the White House and the Main Stream Media: the Ties That Bind” My take.

kingsjester on May 13, 2013 at 6:49 AM

the embassy had compiled brief clips of Obama and Clinton rejecting the contents of the movie and extolling American tolerance for all religions into a 30-second public service announcement that is running on seven Pakistani networks.

How does Pakistan like being lied to???

ted c on May 13, 2013 at 6:51 AM

kingsjester on May 13, 2013 at 6:49 AM

great take KJ

ted c on May 13, 2013 at 6:50 AM

issa seems too squishy for me, he likes to talk, but his walk is less desirable…

cmsinaz on May 13, 2013 at 7:01 AM

kingsjester on May 13, 2013 at 6:49 AM

…the Scott Pelley mea culpa is something positive!

KOOLAID2 on May 13, 2013 at 7:04 AM

issa seems too squishy for me, he likes to talk, but his walk is less desirable…

cmsinaz on May 13, 2013 at 7:01 AM

I agree somewhat. He does like to talk and thinks that just by “getting the information out there” that something positive will happen. In some instances, yes. However, he fails to close the deal time and again.

ted c on May 13, 2013 at 7:07 AM

cmsinaz on May 13, 2013 at 7:01 AM

Thank you!

KOOLAID2 on May 13, 2013 at 7:04 AM

Yes, it is. We’ll see how the CBS higher-ups react to his statement.

kingsjester on May 13, 2013 at 7:09 AM

Obama is going to be speaking at 11:15 from the Rose Garden.
Should be interesting.

CTSherman on May 13, 2013 at 7:17 AM

Yepper Ted

Speaking at 11:15?…..spin spin spin…don’t blame me

cmsinaz on May 13, 2013 at 7:23 AM

Obama is going to be speaking at 11:15 from the Rose Garden.
Should be interesting.

CTSherman on May 13, 2013 at 7:17 AM

is he going to reiterate how offended he is regarding Benghazi just as he did to Mitt Romney in debate #2??? And, by offended, he means that any suggestion that he was off screwing around wasn’t doing his job is just plain offensive, nevermind the 4 dead Americans.

ted c on May 13, 2013 at 7:24 AM

Speaking at 11:15?…..spin spin spin…don’t blame me

cmsinaz on May 13, 2013 at 7:23 AM

trying to “get out in front” of the news cycle and to reorient his lapdogs for the upcoming week.

ted c on May 13, 2013 at 7:26 AM

Obama is going to be speaking at 11:15 from the Rose Garden.
Should be interesting.

CTSherman on May 13, 2013 at 7:17 AM

is he going to reiterate how offended he is regarding Benghazi just as he did to Mitt Romney in debate #2??? And, by offended, he means that any suggestion that he was off screwing around wasn’t doing his job is just plain offensive, nevermind the 4 dead Americans.

ted c on May 13, 2013 at 7:24 AM

I foresee him making a statement and not taking any questions. He’s a coward.

The outrageous outrage on Morning Joe is pure Kabuki theater.

Naturally Curly on May 13, 2013 at 7:29 AM

http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/13/flashback-romney-donor-vilified-by-obama-campaign-then-subjected-to-2-audits/

enemies list.

Bend over, citizen, it is time for your audit.

ted c on May 13, 2013 at 7:29 AM

The problem Obama has, is the fact, that Americans, thanks to last week, Americans have already smelled the smoke and are beginning to see the fire.

If he is his usual imperious self today, more folks will not buy it.

kingsjester on May 13, 2013 at 7:33 AM

Yup ted c….Valerie has probably sent out a mass email

Chuckie Todd thinks IRS will hurt Obama in 2014 than Benghazi

cmsinaz on May 13, 2013 at 7:37 AM

***

The outrageous outrage on Morning Joe is pure Kabuki theater.

Naturally Curly on May 13, 2013 at 7:29 AM

The Gingrich-Bernstein exchanges were hilarious. Gingrich made Bernstein look like a see-no-evil fool. Bernstein gave only the pat “this IRS targeting is bad” line, but definitely wants to compartmentalize the problem in Cincinnati, Ohio. It was great to see Gingrich laugh at Bernstein saying that Bernstein had no trouble going after an entire administration 40 years ago but now wants to limit the IRS inquiry to a few people in Cincinnati. Then, it was enjoyable to watch Scarborough point out that the IRS scrutiny was concentrated in the politically important state of Ohio.

All the while, it was great to watch Mika squirming during all the back and forth.

BuckeyeSam on May 13, 2013 at 7:40 AM

Checking into see what the headlines are this a.m. Thanks to all who post here. Thanks to those who watch MJ so I don’t have to watch it.

Friday was something. Wondering what surprises this day will bring.

esr1951 on May 13, 2013 at 7:41 AM

http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/13/flashback-romney-donor-vilified-by-obama-campaign-then-subjected-to-2-audits/

enemies list.

Bend over, citizen, it is time for your audit.

ted c on May 13, 2013 at 7:29 AM

I was just about to link that story, Ted. You can be damn sure the IRS has been targeting individuals for their political beliefs as well.

Even the lowest-information voters out there hate the IRS, even if they don’t pay taxes. An apology just won’t do.

Naturally Curly on May 13, 2013 at 7:41 AM

Good Morning HA’ers.

Benghazi cover-up, IRS targeting honest Americans, sequestration….

What won’t be be talking about this week?

Happy Nomad on May 13, 2013 at 7:42 AM

BuckeyeSam on May 13, 2013 at 7:40 AM

Great recap, Sam! I think it was the most fun I’ve ever had watching Morning Joe.

Naturally Curly on May 13, 2013 at 7:44 AM

thanks to last week, Americans have already smelled the smoke and are beginning to see the fire.

kingsjester on May 13, 2013 at 7:33 AM

Oh I don’t know about that KJ. Never underestimate the stupidity of the low informations. They still have not tumbled to the fact that the truth does not require 12 revisions.

Happy Nomad on May 13, 2013 at 7:45 AM

ASk yourselves this, citizens, did any of Friday afternoon’s garbage get better smelling over the weekend????

yah, me neither…

ted c on May 13, 2013 at 7:45 AM

Michael Goodwin lays the hammer down in the NY Post today.

http://bit.ly/17hr0QS

ted c on May 13, 2013 at 6:40 AM

Thanks for the link. It’s the best description I’ve seen in the MSM of the debacle and cover up.

“But there should be a special place in hell for the scores of insiders from the White House, the CIA, the Pentagon and the State Department who knew all along that the administration screwed up, that there never was an anti-video demonstration and that four Americans had been sacrificed on the career altars of Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton.”

Basilsbest on May 13, 2013 at 7:48 AM

Yup ted c….Valerie has probably sent out a mass email

Chuckie Todd thinks IRS will hurt Obama in 2014 than Benghazi

cmsinaz on May 13, 2013 at 7:37 AM

Sadly, you may be right. Foreign affairs, pfft. Non-ideological voters will follow the media in thinking Obama had nothing to do with it. The IRS is what I call a solid 60% or 65% issue. I don’t doubt some liberals feel conservatives deserved the IRS shakedown, but many Americans simply won’t stand for that. And that’s a fact.

Did you notice how Todd was steering the fingerpointing to State rather than the White House? From what I’ve seen, the CIA’s crime is rolling over and playing dead after the 11 revisions. That opens questions about what anyone was holding over Petraeus and why his subordinate ultimately signed off on the whitewashed version. But the division of responsibility between the White House and State deserves some extensive fleshing out. Obama may not have been in the room, but I’m convinced Valerie Jarrett was and she was undoubtedly in ongoing contact with Obama.

BuckeyeSam on May 13, 2013 at 7:50 AM

Obama is going to be speaking at 11:15 from the Rose Garden.
Should be interesting.

CTSherman on May 13, 2013 at 7:17 AM

Say…. Wasn’t that the place and time that eight months and one day ago the rat-eared coward and pig-in-a-pantsuit lied their asses off about what happened in Libya? Where we were given a purely fictional story about Libyans defending our ambassador from those involved in a spontaneous demonstration and rushing his still breathing body to a hospital in the aftermath of the “demonstration?” And just what good people these Libyans are.

Well somebody should ask the bastard about why he lied.

Happy Nomad on May 13, 2013 at 7:50 AM

ASk yourselves this, citizens, did any of Friday afternoon’s garbage get better smelling over the weekend????

ted c on May 13, 2013 at 7:45 AM

Well of course it didn’t. It was only Saturday when we learned that the whore who apologized on Friday for the IRS targeting honest Americans 2012 is named in a report saying they were doing it in 2011.

In all honesty, this is probably a bigger political problem for the rat-eared coward than the Benghazi cover-up. Even the low informations understand why this one is wrong.

Happy Nomad on May 13, 2013 at 7:54 AM

Obama is going to be speaking at 11:15 from the Rose Garden.
Should be interesting.

CTSherman on May 13, 2013 at 7:17 AM

Betcha it’s about the IRS thing. He’ll be all forceful and stuff. Anything to try to deflect from this scandal and of course Benghazi.

gophergirl on May 13, 2013 at 7:55 AM

That opens questions about what anyone was holding over Petraeus and why his subordinate ultimately signed off on the whitewashed version. But the division of responsibility between the White House and State deserves some extensive fleshing out. Obama may not have been in the room, but I’m convinced Valerie Jarrett was and she was undoubtedly in ongoing contact with Obama.

BuckeyeSam on May 13, 2013 at 7:50 AM

Nice marriage ya got there, General Petraeus…. be a shame if the lil’ wifey found about the buxom brunette that you’re bangin’ in Bagram…. hmmmm?

ted c on May 13, 2013 at 7:59 AM

Buckeye…. anyway chuckie can deflect he will

cmsinaz on May 13, 2013 at 8:00 AM

Great recap, Sam! I think it was the most fun I’ve ever had watching Morning Joe.

Naturally Curly on May 13, 2013 at 7:44 AM

I tuned in after they were mentioning that Shulman was a Bush appointee, so much of what I saw had Scarborough browbeating the liberals and looking to Gingrich for reinforcement. I agree, it was about the best half hour of MJ in years. Watching Mika being forced to read the timelines for the Obama administrations lies for both Benghazi and the IRS was delicious. And watching general agreement that Jay Carney is now a lying weasel was classic.

I’m betting Valerie Jarrett was screaming at her TV in the White House as she furiously tried to text Mika.

BuckeyeSam on May 13, 2013 at 8:00 AM

Betcha it’s about the IRS thing. He’ll be all forceful and stuff. Anything to try to deflect from this scandal and of course Benghazi.

gophergirl on May 13, 2013 at 7:55 AM

No, all it means is that the late Friday presser (of which the White House as yet to release a transcript) and Sunday Morning spin did nothing to change the dynamics of an administration quickly losing all credibilty.

The rat-eared coward had one thing going for him with the low informations. A belief that he had their backs. Now we find out that he was targeting honest and innocent Americans for political purposes. Not a good thing when “trust me” is all your administration has to offer up as an excuse for a lousy economy, high unemployment rates, and Obamacare.

Happy Nomad on May 13, 2013 at 8:00 AM

LOL, look at Drudge picking the perfect photo for the presser in the Rose Garden.

Marcus on May 13, 2013 at 8:01 AM

Well somebody should ask the bastard about why he lied.

Happy Nomad on May 13, 2013 at 7:50 AM

Agree but I’d bet he won’t be taking any questions on any of this for a while other than maybe a sit down with someone at NBC or one of the other lapdogs.

Can someone tell me who appointed derelicts Pickering and Mullen as the chairs to the ARB? Was/is this a legislative or Executive appointment?

CTSherman on May 13, 2013 at 8:04 AM

MJ is repeating a WaPo story that 300 conservative groups were targeted. I thought it was only 25% of 300.

WTF is wrong with the Obama administration.

MJ is playing a Susan Collins interview on CNN yesterday. Now, they’re playing Issa on MTP.

The Obama administration is in trouble on this one.

WSJ says that other groups worried about spending, taxes, and government were targeted.

Scarborough is criticizing the NYT for calling the IRS issue a GOP cudgel.

If you notice the Dem elected politicians, they are rolling over on this without complaint. Only some liberal journalists are defending the Obama administration.

BuckeyeSam on May 13, 2013 at 8:06 AM

LOL, look at Drudge picking the perfect photo for the presser in the Rose Garden.

Marcus on May 13, 2013 at 8:01 AM

How embarrassing for Obama. (As if he could be embarrassed..)

esr1951 on May 13, 2013 at 8:08 AM

If you notice the Dem elected politicians, they are rolling over on this without complaint. Only some liberal journalists are defending the Obama administration.

BuckeyeSam on May 13, 2013 at 8:06 AM

That is because it is indefensible that the IRS is targeting groups for simply having “Tea Party” or “Patriot” in their titles. No Dem in elected office is going to defend the idea that our government is engaged in the tactics one would expect in Soviet Union or some South American dictatorship.

If I were Lois Lerner, I’d be dusting off the resume this morning because the biotch is going down to protect the higher-ups.

Happy Nomad on May 13, 2013 at 8:11 AM

LOL, look at Drudge picking the perfect photo for the presser in the Rose Garden.

Marcus on May 13, 2013 at 8:01 AM

The photo neglected to include Valerie Jarrett’s hand up Obysmal’s butt.

onlineanalyst on May 13, 2013 at 8:22 AM

Media: the Ties That Bind” My take.

kingsjester on May 13, 2013 at 6:49 AM

Well done.
If I haven’t told you lately-
I enjoy your blog posts.

A few here who also post.
I sometimes get more from those who
comment/link then the sites themselves.
Your time invested is appreciated.

Been wondering how you are..as you walk in the sluge I do with OB care. Diff angle..but still.
I added medicare products last year to my biz.
As this takes some shape-the blob
I foresee the future of the exchanges similar to that of Part C…at some point.
Hope your surviving.

bazil9 on May 13, 2013 at 8:27 AM

I’m tempted to believe that today’s Rose Garden will be full of bizz owners, in support of his statements extolling his latest jobs tour. (think drs in white coats)
Completely void of anything re the scandals surrounding him.
If I’m right about that, mehopes the press flips out over it.

pambi on May 13, 2013 at 8:47 AM

“Later in the morning, the President and Prime Minister Cameron of the United Kingdom will hold a joint press conference in the Rose Garden. The joint press conference is open press.”

AHHHH … I finally read the Drudge link, Weekly Standard.

pambi on May 13, 2013 at 8:50 AM

bazil9 on May 13, 2013 at 8:27 AM

I am well. Thanks for asking and reading my blog.

While I keep up with stuff, I did not renew my Health Insurance License. since last June, I have been the Marketing VP for a 100+ emplolyee corporation consisting of 4 compnaies. it’s all I can say grace over. :)

kingsjester on May 13, 2013 at 8:52 AM

kingsjester on May 13, 2013 at 8:52 AM

Congrats!!! :) So happy to hear that.
Smart move. I am branching out as well..
Maybe doing an entire 180 and leaving the biz
by next year. I have several thoughts..roads..
not sure yet which way I will go.
YW.

bazil9 on May 13, 2013 at 8:56 AM

“Later in the morning, the President and Prime Minister Cameron of the United Kingdom will hold a joint press conference in the Rose Garden. The joint press conference is open press.”

AHHHH … I finally read the Drudge link, Weekly Standard.

pambi on May 13, 2013 at 8:50 AM

Yeah, so did I. If the press lets him get away without asking any pointed questions they are signing their own death warrant.

Remember the outrage over that reporter shouting out a question in the Rose Garden during the campaign? Good times!

Naturally Curly on May 13, 2013 at 8:57 AM

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