Anthony Kennedy: We need to solve tough issues through democratic compromise, not through the Supreme Court
posted at 11:21 am on March 7, 2013 by Allahpundit
Granted, he’s speaking in broad philosophical terms here. And granted, the logic of democratic compromise necessarily doesn’t apply if the Equal Protection Clause has been violated. But when the guy whom everyone thinks will be the swing vote on the Court’s big gay-marriage case says something like this — in the heart of the state where Prop 8 was passed, no less — it’s news.
At the very least, if he is inclined to strike down Prop 8, this is an odd message about judicial power to be pushing right now:
U.S. Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy said Wednesday that congressional lawmakers need to maintain the nation’s balance of power by being able to compromise, expressing concerns that the high court is increasingly the venue for deciding politically charged issues such as gay marriage, health care and immigration…
“I think it’s a serious problem. A democracy should not be dependent for its major decisions on what nine unelected people from a narrow legal background have to say,” Kennedy said. “And I think it’s of tremendous importance for our political system to show the rest of the world — and we have to show ourselves first — that democracy works because we can reach agreement on a principle basis.”…
The associate justice appointed by President Ronald Reagan has often been the swing vote on split decisions. He said he’s concerned that too many decisions of social and political importance are being shifted to the high court, particularly in an era of “litigation explosion.”
He’s talking there about congressional gridlock, not state governments diverging in their approach to a contentious social issue, but the point about unelected judges deciding democratic disputes applies to both circumstances. Kennedy, in fact, has waxed rhapsodic about state sovereignty and the virtues of federalism in opinions before, most notably the Lopez case from 1995 which struck down a law passed by Congress on grounds that it violated the Commerce Clause(!). Per what he said yesterday in Sacramento, maybe he’s inclined to let the states work through gay marriage on their own. Especially since, per this new bipartisan survey from Freedom to Marry, popular sentiment on the subject is in flux:
Exit polls and other surveys from last year’s election suggest that resistance to same-sex marriage is shrinking and mainly concentrated among certain segments of the population: older people, white evangelical Christians and non-college-educated whites…
The disparity was even greater among religious groups, broken down along racial lines. White evangelical Christians opposed same-sex marriage by nearly 3 to 1. But every non-evangelical group — other white Protestants, white Catholics, Hispanic Catholics, African American non-evangelicals and Jewish voters — expressed support for such unions by double-digit margins.
Meanwhile, African American voters who described themselves as evangelical or born again were narrowly divided, with 45 percent saying their state should recognize same-sex marriage and 47 percent saying it should not.
So maybe there’s a solution here that’ll satisfy both Kennedy’s federalist/democratic impulses and his sympathy for gay rights: Give the public some time to continue wrestling with this issue, since federalism and democracy increasingly are leading to more rights for gays. (Even in California: The same public that enacted Prop 8 now says, to the tune of 61 percent, that gays should be able to marry.) The big caveat on federalism, though, is that the Lopez case dealt with the federal government imposing its authority on the states while gay marriage deals with the state government imposing its authority on the individual, which implicates the Bill of Rights. In fact, just a year after he sided with the states in Lopez, Kennedy wrote the majority opinion in Romer v. Evans striking down a Colorado law that singled out gays to deny them protected-class status. And if, as he said yesterday, he’s worried about the U.S. being an example to the rest of the world, he may well decide that a big Court ruling for gay rights is more important than letting democracy play itself out for another decade or two. But still — any tea leaf coming from him that points to majority rule instead of judicial fiat is an interesting one, especially at this particular moment.
Exit question: How confident are we that, even if Kennedy votes to uphold Prop 8, another conservative justice won’t side with the liberals to strike it down? Kennedy was supposed to be the fifth vote for ObamaCare last year, remember. In the end, it was Roberts. This time too?
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CycloneCDB on April 10, 2013 at 6:03 PM
I think this is a big waste of time by socons and I am one of them. Establisment Repubs are selling out the whole base and the whole movement on gun rights, fiscal principles, and immigration. Socons should just feel like one of the movement. Even if they affirm it; they will still sell you out; get used to it..
melle1228 on April 10, 2013 at 6:07 PM
Who in their right mind would ever think black voters would consider the GOP because of the gay marriage issue when Dems are feeding them affirmative action and food stamps while catering to every silly racial grievance they can come up with?
Mark1971 on April 10, 2013 at 6:11 PM
The gop is dead under the current leadership!!!!!
And no resurrection in sight.
God help us.
PappyD61 on April 10, 2013 at 6:12 PM
Social issues aren’t the only planks that have been jettisoned. Support for the Second Amendment, opposition to tax hikes, a firm stand against amnesty, never voting to fund Obamacare, etc.
steebo77 on April 10, 2013 at 6:12 PM
DEAD
DEAD
DEAD
DEAD
PappyD61 on April 10, 2013 at 6:13 PM
+1
gwelf on April 10, 2013 at 6:13 PM
If the GOP loses just 10% of it’s social conservative backers, they will never win another national election. Can you imagine if the Dems were to evolve their
position on climate change or abortion to enlarge their tent? They’re not that
stupid.
rich8450 on April 10, 2013 at 6:14 PM
Exactly! The whole party platform has been sold out to the highest bidder. Why wouldn’t they turn on socons if they think it will bring them votes. Funny, will be interesting to see the southern strong holds turn that are largely social conservatives.
I mean if I am going to choose between Dem and Demlite might as well go with the party that gives out free stuff..
melle1228 on April 10, 2013 at 6:16 PM
I’m probably as socially conservative as it gets and I question why we do this. The dems don’t exactly run on partial birth abortions, insane spending and open borders but we know thats what they are for. We are not going to outlaw abortions but we can certainly get federal dollars out of it and require paternity tests and police reports for rapes and incest for the 0.01% outliers.
Go fiscal responsibility, go constitutional and get serious. The rest is fluff.
DanMan on April 10, 2013 at 6:17 PM
The GOP Establishment supports all the inroads to one big centralized federal government. The only platform the elites support is supreme power for them and complete obedience and compliance from the base.
hawkeye54 on April 10, 2013 at 6:17 PM
As long as the free stuff lasts. When that party is over, and it will eventually be over, there’s gonna be a whole lotta turmoil.
hawkeye54 on April 10, 2013 at 6:19 PM
The difference though is that if Dems did this, they wouldn’t lose any votes. No pro-abortion leftist will EVER vote Republican. After all, Obama was supposedly against gay marriage but that had nil effect. Leftists are interested in power, which is why they win elections and lie like rugs.
COnservatives are interested in principles which is why they lose elections.
theblackcommenter on April 10, 2013 at 6:19 PM
Why we do what? Like I have said a million times, most socons are socons in reaction to the liberal left. It is no accident that the moral majority rose to power some time after the Roe v. Wade decision. It is the left’s unwilling to respect the 10th amendment on issues and use the federal governement and the judiciary as their own private mafia that makes socons socns. If Massachusetts and California want to become Stalingrad; I could care less, but I don’t want Tennessee to be taken down with it. As long as Dems continue to push THEIR SOCIAL AGENDA through the court and the federal government on me; I will continue to fight by using my social values as a counter-balance.
melle1228 on April 10, 2013 at 6:21 PM
You cannot possibly be as socially conservative as it gets.
INC on April 10, 2013 at 6:22 PM
Also on the table for discussion:
RNC To Discuss and Vote On Common Core Resolution
MM’s commentary on this: Rotten to the Core: Conservatives spearhead drive at RNC meeting to stop Common Core
Her twitter for updates:
https://twitter.com/michellemalkin/stop-common-core
INC on April 10, 2013 at 6:25 PM
There’s a moderate v. conservative war on Common Core as well: Jeb Bush has been enabling Erne Duncan on Common Core.
INC on April 10, 2013 at 6:26 PM
the social cons are the deadweight of the party and they’ve allowed the democratic party the power it now enjoys
the social cons should just shut the hell up and vote for the republicans instead of trying to hold them hostage
nonpartisan on April 10, 2013 at 6:26 PM
Awww look the troll is trying so hard…
melle1228 on April 10, 2013 at 6:30 PM
Example # 1 for 3rd Party.
portlandon on April 10, 2013 at 6:31 PM
Screw the GOP. Let that party die as quickly as possible. It is worthless (since we already have America-hating dems who represent everything the GOP slime are for). We need a conservative party that holds the Constitution in high regard. The GOP must go … and go quickly.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 10, 2013 at 6:32 PM
3rd party just means Democratic rule from here on out
nonpartisan on April 10, 2013 at 6:32 PM
so you’re willing to cede control to democrats forever?
social conservatives cannot win without the other parts that make up the republican party
nonpartisan on April 10, 2013 at 6:33 PM
I have to disagree with you here, AP. A tremendous amount of women are single-issue on abortion/reproductive rights. A tremendous amount of blacks voted for Obama because of his skin color. A tremendous amount of gays are only interested in SSM.
John the Libertarian on April 10, 2013 at 6:35 PM
There’s far more to the platform than the section AP quoted.
INC on April 10, 2013 at 6:35 PM
Yeppers troll is trying overly hard..
Quick Allah put out a bad picture of Obama or some butt porn so it will get distracted….
melle1228 on April 10, 2013 at 6:36 PM
I want a national divorce. The dems have already destroyed America and rendered what’s left the American Socialist Superstate. The damage they and their Indonesian have wrought is irreparable.
I have nothing in common with any of these leftist slime, nor with the GOPers who collude with them and want them to be in a separate nation. They can fashion whatever third-world hell-hole they want but I won’t live in it.
I’m not a social conservative, Einstein.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 10, 2013 at 6:36 PM
Well and then there is the LIV who vote for no other discernable reasons other than the fact that someone told them that Repubs were racists etc. etc..
melle1228 on April 10, 2013 at 6:37 PM
The section on the First Amendment and religious freedom is also relevant.
INC on April 10, 2013 at 6:37 PM
I think a lot of folks are missing the real issue. Conservatives are nearing a decision point on whether to stay with the Republican Party. Either the GOP takes action to reassure them that the party still shares principles… or all of the speculation about a new party (or two) takes on more credibility.
As for the yahoos who immediately clamor that that would just guarantee the Democrats continued power, my question is – exactly how do you think that would be any different than where things are now and seemingly would remain anyway, under GOP leadership?
fabrexe on April 10, 2013 at 6:38 PM
nonpartisan, who s/b nobrain, is liberal4life, claiming to be ‘objective’.
You are the biggest dummy on the board.
Schadenfreude on April 10, 2013 at 6:38 PM
The GOP has had some pretty crappy chairs: Giliespie, Mehlman, Duncan and Steele; but Priebus will probably go down as the worst ever.
We mock Debbie Downer, but even she isn’t dumb enough to alienate her own base.
bw222 on April 10, 2013 at 6:39 PM
Then you better be nicer to the socons.
Telling them to shut up and vote Republican isn’t an option anymore.
portlandon on April 10, 2013 at 6:39 PM
Actually DanMan has a point that needs to be considered, as a libertarian conservative I also struggle with where the line should be with government involvement in social issues. For the record I’m an Episcopalian by choice, just as other Christians are Baptist, Mothodist, or Catholic by choice. I don’t want “Baptist” legislation anymore than they want “Episcopal” legislation.
,therefore I always consider the fewer laws there are the better.
Tater Salad on April 10, 2013 at 6:40 PM
No, I think we are all aware of that that is the real issue. I just think that at this point that having the GOP ‘reaffirm” the party platform means nothing. Look, they haven’t just sold out the socons, they have sold out about everyone lately. It doesn’t matter what the platform says- the GOP establishment who are in power don’t care. They only care about swinging so that they can retain power and if that means stepping on grassroots, tea party, socons and any new conservatives to retain power – who cares what the platform says. I don’t think they get how shaky the party actually is, but I think come 2014 and 2016; they will- Of course, socons will get blamed, but it won’t only be us not voting for them.
melle1228 on April 10, 2013 at 6:41 PM
Then you should be against SSM, because it will only increase government overreach.
INC on April 10, 2013 at 6:42 PM
Life and marriage are not mere peripheral issues that can be set aside and retain anything approaching conservatism.
INC on April 10, 2013 at 6:44 PM
You’re right, I’m against the federal government taking any sort of stand on SSM; either to declare it as a “right” or the effort to pass a Constitutional amendment against.
Tater Salad on April 10, 2013 at 6:46 PM
The Dems never could have accomplished the destruction of the country without RINO help – from Specter and the Maine b!tches voting for the stimulus to Snowe and Collins voting bills out of committee to McCain and his sock puppet Miss Lucy supporting gun control and amnesty.
bw222 on April 10, 2013 at 6:47 PM
Kudos for at least pretending that this is a bug to you and not a feature. *golf clap*
Kataklysmic on April 10, 2013 at 6:48 PM
Good lord, the Republican Party is skilled at only one thing . . . walking on their privates with with golf shoes.
rplat on April 10, 2013 at 6:49 PM
I don’t think that’s been the direction of the language. The aim has always been to affirm marriage.
INC on April 10, 2013 at 6:53 PM
It already is affirmed via the current tax code, which is almost the only place marriage is dealt with on a federal level. I’m for the status quo; no change of the definition, nor constitutional amendment to affirm.
Tater Salad on April 10, 2013 at 6:58 PM
The aim of the language in various resolutions has been to affirm the status quo, if you were, in the face of those who want to redefine it. It’s not enough to sit back and say I’m for the status quo.
INC on April 10, 2013 at 7:12 PM
They sold me and my fiscal brethren out during Bush’s first term and haven’t tossed me a bone since. Don’t worry though, there’s plenty of room in the back of the bus for all of us. :)
alchemist19 on April 10, 2013 at 7:34 PM
What if “those who want to redefine it” are the voters, as in Washington, Maine and Maryland this past November?
cam2 on April 10, 2013 at 8:09 PM
There was a rep I forget his name on Greta who was asked why the don’t sopeana the survivors of Benghazi and he said “Ask leadership”. you can bet your bottom dollar that Obama told Boehner to lay off on Benghazi or else and he caved.
Conan on April 10, 2013 at 8:15 PM
Don’t worry.. I’ll sit by ya honey.. :)
melle1228 on April 10, 2013 at 8:20 PM
Tell these Big Government Social Cons to take a hike.
We all know they’d love Obama if he were anti-abortion and hated gays. They’d be fine with the socialism.
DRayRaven on April 10, 2013 at 8:36 PM
You need to get together with nonpartisan; you are as ridiculous as that troll.
melle1228 on April 10, 2013 at 8:43 PM
Yep, and this is also going to be the key to gaining the votes of all those traditionally minded Catholic Hispanics.
Mr. Arkadin on April 10, 2013 at 8:50 PM
And the number of times that Republicans have gone into black neighborhoods with their message on social issues is…?
The problem with Republican outreach to minorities is that it often takes this form.
Stoic Patriot on April 10, 2013 at 8:57 PM
Didn’t they just reaffirm them at the Republican National Convention last August? They kept all the social issues in the party platform.
http://www.gop.com/2012-republican-platform_home/
The problem is the moderate squishes who want to cave in and “compromise” with the DemocRATS, and the establishment types who encourage them in their squishiness.
This social con is very close to leaving the R Party altogether, and becoming an “independent” voter.
JannyMae on April 10, 2013 at 9:02 PM
Yes, because if you support traditional marriage then you HATE GAYS, and you don’t care one iota about fiscal issues.
When we all take a hike because of dishonest a-holes like you, good luck winning another national election.
JannyMae on April 10, 2013 at 9:04 PM
Amen!
JannyMae on April 10, 2013 at 9:06 PM
I have just given up talking to people like him. I could tout my wonderful gay cousin whom I love immensely, but then it looks like I am using the “some of my best friends are gay” line. It ultimately doesn’t matter because people like DR have us all pegged in his little mind and no amount of arguing with him is going to change his mind. He has said much worse on AceofSpades about socons, so this is him being nice.
melle1228 on April 10, 2013 at 9:10 PM
Yes, they did. After observing the waffling of the last month or so, this letter is holding their feet to the fire.
Schlafly wrote a letter to Priebus on March 1st. She signed this one, and I’d bet she was a prime mover in writing it. She’s never been one to sit back while the moderates waffle and weave.
INC on April 10, 2013 at 11:01 PM
The beauty of anonymous posting is that you can post such ignorant drivel with a clear conscience. Someone of a more intellectual bent would curb their typing as they considered the demise of the Whig party as the Republican party seized the Presidency from the Democrats by the 2nd election… less than 8 years… and forever smashed one of the planks of the Democrat party… SLAVERY.
And even though the Democrats fought against the Republican Civil Rights through segregation and the KKK, they completely lost that ideological battle until they had nothing left but to try and rewrite history to hide their shame of defeat.
So I would be careful about cheering the demise of the GOP…
Unless you’re one of those idiots that refuse to learn from history…
dominigan on April 11, 2013 at 1:24 PM