Video: “You’re on your own”

posted at 10:01 am on March 6, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Project Veritas is back on the gun-control beat with a brand new video out today.  With gun-control advocates insisting that Americans don’t really need firearms for personal protection because we have police forces to act as instant-response armed guards, PV went undercover to talk with actual police officers about the reality of police response.  Unlike the politicians that want to volunteer them for guard duty, the police in the videos are a lot more realistic about the limits of police response — even if they are creative about alternative solutions to firearms in an emergency:

“Go get some bleach. Go get ammonia,” one officer instructed. Yet another officer instructed the undercover journalist to, “lock yourself in a bedroom” and “start yelling and screaming.”

Don’t we all have bleach and ammonia on hand in case we need it in an attack? By the way, the problem with the bleach-ammonia solution is that if you try them together, you’re as likely to kill yourself in the chemical-weapons result of the mixture, a mistake I once made on my first job while cleaning up after hours in a pizza joint (fortunately, we got rid of it immediately).  That’s almost as bad as Joe Biden’s advice, as one police officer explains at about the five-minute mark.  Instead, several police officers suggested — ta da! — getting a permit to carry a firearm, presumably without firing warning shots through the door.

In the video, Sheriff David Clarke of Milwaukee County, Wisconsin reminds us that we are truly “on our own.” He’s back in the news today, too, responding to the Milwaukee chief of police, who kept rudely interrupting a US Senate hearing to mock a gun-rights advocate:

Milwaukee County Sheriff David A. Clarke Jr. has fired another salvo in his ongoing clash with Milwaukee Police Chief Edward Flynn over guns, law enforcement and public safety.

In a letter to a Republican member of the U.S. Senate, Clarke has issued an apology “on behalf of my constituents” for Flynn’s blunt Capitol Hill testimony last week in support of an assault-weapons ban.

The sheriff accuses Flynn of being “embarrassing” and “rude,” and hostile to gun rights in the letter, sent to South Carolina’s Lindsey Graham, a member of the judiciary committee that heard Flynn’s testimony.

“Please do not see (Flynn’s) arrogance as exemplary of the people of Milwaukee County,” Clarke writes. …

Flynn has called Clarke an attention-seeker, and has criticized Republicans in Congress and gun groups for opposing new firearms restrictions. At a Senate judiciary hearing last week on a bill banning new sales of military-style assault weapons, Flynn was an aggressive, outspoken witness , sparring at one point with Graham, who opposes the ban.

“The way you have conducted yourself on Capitol Hill personifies statesmanship,” Clarke wrote to Graham. “Regardless of your political party or political views, a very certain amount of dignity and respect comes along with being an elected official in our representative democracy,” Clarke wrote.

The sheriff accuses Flynn of “shamefully” trying to shout Graham down during the hearing. Flynn interrupted Graham as the GOP senator was questioning another witness, and the two talked over each other at several points.

Be sure to watch all the way through to the end of the video for Clarke’s recitation of average response times to reports of violent crime, too.  Katie Pavlich certainly noticed the fifty-nine minute average response time to a report of a sexual attack.  I worked in the burg-fire alarm industry for nearly twenty years, so none of this surprises me, nor should it anyone else.  The police are not in the business of personal protection; they investigate crimes, and cities try to establish enough of a police presence to indirectly deter some amount of crime, but that’s all they can do. Nor should we desire to live in an environment where the police are everywhere all at once, for reasons of cost, privacy, and liberty.  The police have a tough enough job as it is.

It’s not up to the police to defend us from attack — it’s up to us to do so for ourselves, which is one big reason why we have a Second Amendment right to arm ourselves.


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The longest I have ever seen a thread go up without a comment.

Bmore on March 6, 2013 at 10:12 AM

“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

workingclass artist on March 6, 2013 at 10:12 AM

Preach it Ed!

Imrahil on March 6, 2013 at 10:13 AM

“When every second counts, the police are only minutes away.” Thank God for the 2nd Amendment.

indypat on March 6, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Apparently common sense is never a consideration in this.

Bleach and ammonia. Mmmmkay.

tru2tx on March 6, 2013 at 10:15 AM

Very scary stuff.
God bless Project Veritas for the work they do and Sheriff Clarke for his bold truth!

JellyToast on March 6, 2013 at 10:16 AM

..tghe response that didn’t make this piece as the LEO who said lock yourself in a room, strip naked, bend over, and kiss your asss goodbye because we’ll be finishing up at Duncan Donuts.

The War Planner on March 6, 2013 at 10:17 AM

What to do while waiting for the police? Urinate.

NotEasilyFooled on March 6, 2013 at 10:18 AM

If I ever have to move to Milwaukee, I will make a pointed effort NOT to reside in city limits.

Bitter Clinger on March 6, 2013 at 10:19 AM

Apparently common sense is never a consideration in this.

Bleach and ammonia. Mmmmkay.

tru2tx on March 6, 2013 at 10:15 AM

..castle doctrine says you are legally allowed to put a round though the perp if you fear for your life. If he gets dead then it’s O.K. But, if he gets maimed by some citizen throwing some Clorox in his face, then he is slip-and-fall fodder and owns you for the rest of your natural life.

The War Planner on March 6, 2013 at 10:20 AM

According to the statists, the best response when someone breaks into your home is to piss your pants. Because that’s all they can do.

rbj on March 6, 2013 at 10:22 AM

Libs like to tell us to ‘let the police do their job, they’ll protect you, that’s why they are there’.

Well, just try and SUE your local police department when they AREN’T THERE to prevent a crime.

Of course the libs never mention that.

GarandFan on March 6, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Four numbers I call to protect me and mine here at home. Guaranteed to work. I promise. 1911. Works well out of home also. ; )

Bmore on March 6, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Milwaukee Police Chief Edward Flynn

This is truly frightening to me. There are too many politically connected people in positions of authority in this country.

IF, a big IF, it comes to pass that the people are are responding to tyranny with firearms, what side are the police going to take? Friend or foe of the populace??

FOWG1 on March 6, 2013 at 10:24 AM

Will it make my hollow points more effective if I dip them in bleach?

dentarthurdent on March 6, 2013 at 10:27 AM

If you don’t possess — let alone exercise — the natural right to defend yourself, it follows then that your life is of inconsequential value, and you (generally, in a preventable attack) deserve whatever harm — including death — comes to it as a result.

ShainS on March 6, 2013 at 10:27 AM

Sheriff David Clarke, Doctor Ben Carson… It is like a breeze of fresh air to hear these sorts of rational, sensible comments. Comments that your gut tells you are so necessary, so self-evident, and so lacking in most current life. So unlike the utter cr@p that spews from the mouths of the entrenched political class (of BOTH persuasions) and their media rumpswabs.

bofh on March 6, 2013 at 10:28 AM

When seconds count, police are just minutes away.
Unfortunately in some cases, I’ve wished they were more than just a few minutes away.

smfic on March 6, 2013 at 10:29 AM

It’s not up to the police to defend us from attack — it’s up to us to do so for ourselves, which is one big reason why we have a Second Amendment right to arm ourselves.

I don’t think there was a “police force” back when the Second Amendment was written.
The Second Amendment was written to protect ourselves from politicians like Obama and the progressives. Notice they are the ones trying to “control” the guns. Meaning they want to take away your god given right to protect yourself from tyranny.

Cold dead hands…..

redguy on March 6, 2013 at 10:29 AM

Surprised they didn’t say to pee on the perpetrator. Or vomit on them. For some magical reason, pee and vomit are now supposed to make the violent rapist so repulsed that he’ll drop that weapon/knife and run away in disgust.

sydneyjane on March 6, 2013 at 10:29 AM

The longest I have ever seen a thread go up without a comment.

Bmore on March 6, 2013 at 10:12 AM

…THIS…was a 24 Bishop thread!
…by the way!…liking your talent!
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AND FLUKE Flynn!

KOOLAID2 on March 6, 2013 at 10:30 AM

I want:

A propane bottle,
With a metal air horn on it,
With an ignitor,
And fine sand dispenser into the throat.

Sound, fire and blinding sand.
Anything else I need?

tomg51 on March 6, 2013 at 10:31 AM

If you don’t possess — let alone exercise — the natural right to defend yourself, it follows then that your life is of inconsequential value,

From the Left’s point of view, that is true.

hawkeye54 on March 6, 2013 at 10:31 AM

Apparently common sense is never a consideration in this.

Bleach and ammonia. Mmmmkay.

tru2tx on March 6, 2013 at 10:15 AM

I bet that the majority of the police in this video would not be following their own advice while their off duty.

And as for holding the phone up to your face and talking and screaming… I don’t remember the details but I do remember several years back, there was a case of a woman murdered as she’s talking to 911. The call goes on and on and you can hear the police tell the victim “tell him you’re talking to the police..” and you hear her screaming and the man assaulting her in her home. She was raped and murdered. But the crime went on for like 20 minutes or more.

It’s a freaking sad day in America. Cops out right telling you to basically lock your doors, fall on the floor and suck your thumb. Be a victim. Be a casualty. Be a statistic. “You are not smart enough or good enough to carry this awesome weapon of power that we carry… the gun. If we were to allow you to carry this awesome weapon.. you might think we are equals.”

In truth, the gun is the great equalizer. It is the simplest device to operate. You point it and pull the trigger. The gun does the rest. And that is why the libs hate it. It equalizes all men and all women.

“The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference – they deserve a place of honor with all that’s good”
– George Washington

JellyToast on March 6, 2013 at 10:32 AM

Piers Morgan tut-tutting about harsh rhetoric?

What Piers said he’d like to do to Jeremy Clarkson:

“I’d replace the buzzers with a machine gun and just take them all out and do the public a massive favor”

I don’t really think he would do it but only because he would be afraid to go to prison. Judging by his demeanor while saying it, I do not believe there is a moral concern about killing people he disagrees with. A true progressive.

forest on March 6, 2013 at 10:34 AM

Bmore on March 6, 2013 at 10:23 AM

I prefer 38. There are fewer numbers to dial.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 6, 2013 at 10:34 AM

They should have told her to stick a finger down her throat to induce vomiting. /typical leftist f***tard.

Thomas More on March 6, 2013 at 10:34 AM

Jelly Toast: You mean this?

annoyinglittletwerp on March 6, 2013 at 10:37 AM

And on the other side of the coin, the Proppressives are pushing hard for Gun Registration (and then CONFISCATION):

Dems pushing for their background-check bill: Coburn needs to “s–t or get off the pot”
http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2013/03/06/dems-pushing-for-their-background-check-bill-coburns-needs-to-s-t-or-get-off-the-pot/comment-page-1/#comment-2288231

Galt2009 on March 6, 2013 at 10:37 AM

I know HPD recommends concealed carry. Another thing I know. Houston police typically move out of town when they retire. They know the police force is being gutted. Our mayor hss grabbed the camera bug. Cameras don’t file crime reports, thus the streets are considered safer.

DanMan on March 6, 2013 at 10:38 AM

…..and by the way, they weren’t allowed to have guns in Venezuela.

Tater Salad on March 6, 2013 at 10:38 AM

Bleach and ammonia. Right.

When I was in high school, one of our more decerebrated English teachers (who could have been the real-life model for Mr. O’Neill in Daria) thought it would be cool for us to do “commercials”, TV-style, for “products”. One kid demonstrated this incredible new cleaning agent. Yes, he mixed chlorine bleach and ammonia right in the classroom.

We had to evacuate that entire wing of the building and open all the windows to let the high concentration of chlorine gas (worthy of the Somme in 1916) disperse. On the plus side, the fire department’s paramedics determined that nobody got a big enough dose to require hospitalization.

FTR, I had been in the restroom answering a call of nature, and got back to the classroom just in time to see him pour the two liquids from two unlabeled plastic bottles into a Tupperware bowl. One whiff told me what was going on in the bowl, and I beat everyone else to the exit.

“Advice” like this is stupid and dangerous enough that whoever gave it should be suspended, pending a psychiatric examination.

clear ether

eon

eon on March 6, 2013 at 10:38 AM

I don’t think there was a “police force” back when the Second Amendment was written.

Nope. Local law enforcement was usually hit or miss, if a community could afford to pay for it, usually one or two law “enforcers” with part time or volunteers to assist. Otherwise, it was in the hands of citizens, and not generally hampered with certain legal protections afforded alleged law breakers today.

From Wikipedia, and notice the last sentence:

The first local modern police department established in the United States was the Boston Police Department in 1838, followed by the New York City Police Department in 1845. Early on, police were not respected by the community, as corruption was rampant.

hawkeye54 on March 6, 2013 at 10:39 AM

This is how the Pro-tyranny Gun grabbers ‘Think’:

Make your own Gun Free Zone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhgzcioPet8&feature=player_detailpage

Just put up a sign and the Criminals and the Government will just leave you alone…..

Galt2009 on March 6, 2013 at 10:41 AM

They should have told her to stick a finger down her throat to induce vomiting. /typical leftist f***tard.

Thomas More on March 6, 2013 at 10:34 AM

Just tell the bad guy that you are menstruating.

VegasRick on March 6, 2013 at 10:41 AM

MUST SEE VIDEO – African Americans Against Gun Control Release Powerful Ad Against Democratic Jim Crow Laws…

video at link:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/03/must-see-video-african-americans-against-gun-control-release-powerful-ad-against-democratic-jim-crow-laws/

workingclass artist on March 6, 2013 at 10:42 AM

We’re from the government and we’re here to help, after you’re dead, or raped, or you don’t have any possessions.

Speakup on March 6, 2013 at 10:43 AM

We really are on our own:

Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html?_r=2&
Published: June 28, 2005

WASHINGTON, June 27 – The Supreme Court ruled on Monday that the police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm, even a woman who had obtained a court-issued protective order against a violent husband making an arrest mandatory for a violation.

Colbyjack on March 6, 2013 at 10:46 AM

workingclass artist on March 6, 2013 at 10:42 AM

To be ‘African-American’-one has to be born in AFRICA. You can be WHITE and be ‘African-American’.
I salute my fellow patriots who just happen to be black-but let’s drop the PC BS!

annoyinglittletwerp on March 6, 2013 at 10:47 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on March 6, 2013 at 10:34 AM

True but you’ll need at least one of these to keep up. ; )

Bmore on March 6, 2013 at 10:48 AM

This should get the last of the holdouts that think the police are on our side and worthy of respect.

oceansidecon on March 6, 2013 at 10:49 AM

What I love about this video is how these cops, all of them packing heat, sitting in a police station amongst dozens of other cops, are sitting behind reinforced desks and speaking through bulletproof glass.

So what they are saying is that, even with all the guns and training and force of numbers, they are not safe without building themselves a bunker.

And yet, the common citizen is supposed to be comfortable sitting behind an eighth of an inch of luann plywood with nothing to defend themselves but harsh language.

Haiku Guy on March 6, 2013 at 10:51 AM

I suppose my guns can be used for self defense, but that’s not why I have them.

My guns’ primary purpose is protection from a tyrannical government. They either don’t understand the purpose of the 2nd amendment or they refuse to admit it and work tirelessly to distract us by debating the defense and hunting issues…in my opinion they are red herrings.

All able bodied CITIZENS without a criminal history should be encouaged to own firearms.

freedomfirst on March 6, 2013 at 10:57 AM

I worked in the burg-fire alarm industry for nearly twenty years, so none of this surprises me, nor should it anyone else

What the heck have you not done Ed? Or should I say MacLeod? I have my suspicions…..

29Victor on March 6, 2013 at 10:57 AM

Bmore on March 6, 2013 at 10:48 AM

I need some of those. Thanks for the reminder.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 6, 2013 at 10:58 AM

Sheriff David Clarke, Doctor Ben Carson… It is like a breeze of fresh air to hear these sorts of rational, sensible comments. Comments that your gut tells you are so necessary, so self-evident, and so lacking in most current life. So unlike the utter cr@p that spews from the mouths of the entrenched political class (of BOTH persuasions) and their media rumpswabs.

bofh on March 6, 2013 at 10:28 AM

Ben Carson is no friend of the second amendment. Didn’t you get the memo? Carson’s stock has really plummeted at hotair over the past few days.

hatecraft on March 6, 2013 at 10:59 AM

In today’s world, the criminal will come back and sue you for staining his clothes.

hillsoftx on March 6, 2013 at 10:59 AM

workingclass artist on March 6, 2013 at 10:42 AM

To be ‘African-American’-one has to be born in AFRICA. You can be WHITE and be ‘African-American’.
I salute my fellow patriots who just happen to be black-but let’s drop the PC BS!

annoyinglittletwerp on March 6, 2013 at 10:47 AM

I posted the relevant link to Gateway Pundit & the video using his headline.

I had no idea this wasn’t allowed at HotGas…

Thanks for politically correcting me.

*shrug*

workingclass artist on March 6, 2013 at 11:02 AM

Bmore on March 6, 2013 at 10:23 AM

I prefer 38. There are fewer numbers to dial.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 6, 2013 at 10:34 AM

9

dentarthurdent on March 6, 2013 at 11:03 AM

All this talk about self defense is now unnecessary.
Check the new thread with the libtard bimbo saying women don’t need to defend themselves if we just teach men not to rape. Problem solved – just teach criminals not to commit crimes….

dentarthurdent on March 6, 2013 at 11:08 AM

Universal Background Check AKA Firearms Registration & Why You Shouldn’t Comply
http://www.ammoland.com/2013/03/no-universal-background-check/#axzz2Mb6DGDx1

Washington, DC –(Ammoland.com)- As a result of recent criminal activities, the media is clamoring for a government solution. That solution being offered to the American public runs the gamut from creating “banned” firearms, to “banning” certain amounts of ammunition.

What we should be more concerned with is the politically correct term “universal background check” or “UBC”. This term is nothing more than a euphemism for firearms and human registration. It means prohibiting private firearm sales and transfers, so that even transfers between family members will go through federally licensed dealers and be recorded by the government, as are dealer sales. Ask yourself, how will this universal check be done? The political pundits will tell you it is merely about looking at your criminal record. Well, that sounds reasonable; we already do that for dealer sales. So why need a “new” kind of background check then? In truth, the UBC reality will be a thorough search of your medical records, your mental health records and of course your military service records. On the surface, all of this may sound benign and nothing we should fear as a people.

This type of legislation will lead to registration, which will be used for confiscation. An unarmed society is then at the mercy of those in power. If we learn from history, we know only one more inevitability can follow -extermination.

Colbyjack on March 6, 2013 at 11:17 AM

9

dentarthurdent on March 6, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Show off.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 6, 2013 at 11:19 AM

We really are on our own:

Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html?_r=2&
Published: June 28, 2005

WASHINGTON, June 27 – The Supreme Court ruled on Monday that the police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm, even a woman who had obtained a court-issued protective order against a violent husband making an arrest mandatory for a violation.

Colbyjack on March 6, 2013 at 10:46 AM

Yep. That can’t be stated enough.

This is how it’s supposed to be, anyway. The police are not armed guards. They don’t really stop crimes in progress and certainly aren’t around to stop crimes that are just about to happen. Police are around to arrest people after they have committed crimes and then the courts are supposed to take them off the streets for a good, long time – though the courts generally fail miserably at this task, thanks in large part to the despicable, lying scumbag leftists who rally for Tookie and Mumia and enjoy letting violent people who have committed and been found guilty of heinous crimes back onto the street to threaten society. We don’t arrest people for being suspicious. We arrest them for already having committed a crime.

Protection, in the here and now, is up to the individual.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 6, 2013 at 11:19 AM

workingclass artist on March 6, 2013 at 11:02 AM

Sorry. Me and my husband are big into taking back the language-and I see red when I see stuff like that. So-wee.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 6, 2013 at 11:20 AM

Here we go:

Report: Anti-government groups on rise
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/report-patriot-groups-on-rise-88487.html

The number of anti-government groups in the United States is at an all-time high and has increased 800 percent since President Barack Obama took office, according to a Southern Poverty Law Center report.

The SPLC identified 1,360 so-called patriot groups on the “radical right” in 2012, compared with only 149 in 2008. Much of the growth came in Obama’s first term, but there was a 7 percent jump from 2011 to 2012. The group, in its report on Tuesday, said it expects numbers to spike again in the wake of the Obama administration’s gun control proposals, noting a similar spike after the passage of the assault weapons ban in 1994.

Colbyjack on March 6, 2013 at 11:26 AM

Typical Liberal logic on display:

Cops, especially LAPD, are racist and most abuse their power. Cops are corrupt and hate poor people. Obviously the solution is to take guns away from individuals and hire more racist, corrupt, power-hungry police officers…so we can sue them for doing or not doing things that have no relation to actually protecting us.

weaselyone on March 6, 2013 at 11:32 AM

I have a Master’s Degree in Chemistry. If you dump a cupfull of Ammonia into a bucket containing Bleach, you’re going to get a pretty dangerous, and immediate, reaction. First you get a cloud of Chlorine gas and then a Cloramine gas and heat and Hydrochloric Acid… you could pass out, or get sick, pretty quickly; before you could reach an intruder with a concoction emitting billows of white toxic fog.

If the intruder has a gun, you’ll get shot first, of course. I have two brothers who have been Policemen for several years. Both told me the same thing: get a couple of pistols; teach everyone in the house how to use them; and have them available every night near your bed.

They said: “The Police do not protect you, they just clean up afterwards. Protect yourself and your family and worry about being prosecuted later, while you’re still alive.”

dahni on March 6, 2013 at 11:52 AM

My sister is a police officer and I asked her what she thought about self protection, she said not only should you have a firearm in the home but also carry one on you when you leave.

tommer74 on March 6, 2013 at 11:59 AM

workingclass artist on March 6, 2013 at 11:02 AM

Sorry. Me and my husband are big into taking back the language-and I see red when I see stuff like that. So-wee.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 6, 2013 at 11:20 AM

S’alright…We’re on the same side.

I probably shoulda used quotation marks.

;)

workingclass artist on March 6, 2013 at 12:01 PM

hawkeye54 on March 6, 2013 at 10:39 AM

An interesting series from the BBC is Copper. It deals with an Irish detective in a somewhat fledgling police force in 1864 NYC. It is post-Draft Riots. A rather interesting portrayal of police. (I love the one episode where the corrupt policeman dies because he is adulterating a murder scene – it’s a little lighter fare than some of the previous episodes.)

GWB on March 6, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Sorry. Me and my husband are big into taking back the language-and I see red when I see stuff like that. So-wee.
annoyinglittletwerp on March 6, 2013 at 11:20 AM

If you want to “take back the language,” start by saying “My husband and I…”

Pet peeve of mine.

Maddie on March 6, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Show off.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 6, 2013 at 11:19 AM

Also 12.

My wife wants to use 45 – but I’m trying to get her to start with 22 and work her way up.

dentarthurdent on March 6, 2013 at 12:09 PM

dentarthurdent on March 6, 2013 at 12:09 PM

I was gonna start with a .22-but that’s too low a caliber to CC in TX.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 6, 2013 at 12:34 PM

Utterly ridiculous. Bleach and ammonia are very dangerous chemicals, and only trained law enforcement officers and select maintenance/janitorial personnel should have access to them.

Personally, I keep several very effective joke-books in my house. If an armed person breaks in, I lock myself in the bathroom, and, while he’s preparing to blow the lock off (or possibly dissolve it with bleach), I will read him (or her) some of the funniest material. When he (or she) collapses in helpless laughter, I will then use the opportunity to escape along with my wife and children, and let the police do their thing. Also, if the person wets himself while laughing, I could ask a trained and licensed janitor to come by with some bleach or ammonia and clean my floort.

morganfrost on March 6, 2013 at 12:35 PM

“When every second counts, the police are only minutes away.” Thank God for the 2nd Amendment.

indypat on March 6, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Or in many cities, the police are hours or days away

krome on March 6, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Ask them what they want law-abiding, armed citizens on-scene to do if an LEO goes down and the bad guy is about to finish him off.

I bet they would repeat their ridiculous advice, rather than admit openly that they would prefer someone with a gun save them. No way you can let logic and common sense win, even if it costs you your life.

Christien on March 6, 2013 at 12:46 PM

I was gonna start with a .22-but that’s too low a caliber to CC in TX.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 6, 2013 at 12:34 PM

It’s a good starter weapon for someone with no shooting experience to get used to handling a gun. The experienced shooting trainers I know recommend starting with a .22 rifle first, then a .22 handgun, and then work your way up in calber so know you can handle the recoil.

dentarthurdent on March 6, 2013 at 12:56 PM

There is some additional iformation on the fallacy that liberals like to spout that “fewer guns = less crime.” How about 22 million more guns available in the U.S. in the years 200-2009 and yet crime (and murders) WENT DOWN. Check it out at Pesky Truth – “When Seconds Count”: http://peskytruth.wordpress.com/2013/02/25/when-seconds-count/

And another piece about a husband wishing he had a gun to defend his wife and daughter; http://peskytruth.wordpress.com/2013/01/31/you-hear-glass-breaking/

We have got to keep the pressure on our “representatives” to keep the gun-grabbers from disarming us.

Garnet92 on March 6, 2013 at 1:07 PM

EDIT: that first date should be 2007 – sorry, phat pfingers.

Garnet92 on March 6, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Other household items you can use to defend yourself with:
Hairspray and lighter
Rubber band and paperclips
Rolling pin
Gardening sheers
Frying pan (especially if you heat it up first)

Who needs a gun, there are plenty of weapons around the house you can turn to first as you wait for the police…

/sarc

nextgen_repub on March 6, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Who needs a gun, there are plenty of weapons around the house you can turn to first as you wait for the police…

/sarc

nextgen_repub on March 6, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Eat a lot of Mexican food so you’re always armed and ready with a big ole burning jalapeno fart – should be enough to run off anyone…..

dentarthurdent on March 6, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Response times vary A LOT from agency to agency. Much of it, when it’s a “hot call,” depends on how close an officer just happens to be to the location of the call. So, if luck is on your side and an officer is only a block away, you may get a response time of 90 seconds.

Also keep in mind, it’s not from the time you call, it’s from the time the call is dispatched to the officer.

Realistically, a response time of 3 minutes from the time you call in a hot call (an in progress burglary, assault, etc.) is very, very quick. And 3 minutes is a world of time for bad things to happen to you and your.

That’s the reality of it, folks. Be prepared for it.

RedNewEnglander on March 6, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Eat a lot of Mexican food so you’re always armed and ready with a big ole burning jalapeno fart – should be enough to run off anyone…..

dentarthurdent on March 6, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Keep a Zippo handy, so you can light it. That’ll learn ‘em!

CurtZHP on March 6, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Realistically, a response time of 3 minutes from the time you call in a hot call (an in progress burglary, assault, etc.) is very, very quick. And 3 minutes is a world of time for bad things to happen to you and your.

That’s the reality of it, folks. Be prepared for it.

RedNewEnglander on March 6, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Depends. A Fort Carson soldier and his wife killed by a burglar a few weeks ago when they were walking back into their own house. Turns out their burglar alarm had gone off 45 minutes earlier – i.e. when the burglar broke in – but the police just didn’t respond because alarm systems have “too many false alarms”. 2 people dead because the police chose not to respond to an alarm.

dentarthurdent on March 6, 2013 at 1:57 PM

I will keep some bleach around, to clean up the blood from the holes that the little lead thingies did to him…shhhhhh!

rgranger on March 6, 2013 at 2:42 PM

Who needs a gun, there are plenty of weapons around the house you can turn to first as you wait for the police…

/sarc

nextgen_repub on March 6, 2013 at 1:12 PM

You forgot rigging paint cans on strings from the bannister… but most of those were familiar.

We’ll call it the “HOME ALONE DEFENSE MANUAL”… and we can pretend it’ll work.

gekkobear on March 6, 2013 at 2:48 PM

“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear household chemicals, shall not be infringed.”

ShadowsPawn on March 6, 2013 at 3:18 PM

Every one of these “officers” appearing on this tape should be forced to leave their weapons at the “station house” and go home unarmed, (like you and me). then we’ll see how fast they change their minds on the 2nd amendment rights….it’s very easy to tell someone they have no 2nd amendment rights, until it is YOU.

nonstopca on March 6, 2013 at 4:49 PM

As a resident of Milwaukee County, Sheriff David Clarke makes me extremely proud. Walker and Clarke are the salve for liberal fools like Tom Barrett and Flynn.

There is hope.

Polish Rifle on March 6, 2013 at 8:00 PM

What was not mentioned is to get your bleach and ammonia cannon, and put the bleach in the bleach side, and the ammonia in the ammonia side, and pump it up to 100 PSI, and proceed to kill your attacker.

Next week, we will discuss the oxygen and propane cannon, with Hank Hill.

bbhack on March 6, 2013 at 10:13 PM