Quotes of the day

posted at 10:21 pm on March 6, 2013 by Allahpundit

Kentucky Senator Rand Paul’s hours-long, multi-senator filibuster of John Brennan’s CIA director nomination has accomplished a rare feat: questions about targeted killing and the drone program have vaulted from the fringes to the forefront of Washington conversation, and it’s lasted nearly an entire day.

Civil libertarians have, finally, arrived.

“You would hope that the question of whether the president can on his own authority kill citizens in the U.S. would have come to the forefront as soon as it was floated,” said David Boaz, executive vice president of the libertarian Cato Institute. “But it seems like it took this particular circumstance to get people talking about it.”…

“Amazing that it’s a Republican,” Shank said.

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Sen. Rand Paul just offered to end his filibuster and allow a vote on CIA nominee John Brennan if he could get a vote tomorrow on a non-binding resolution regarding drone killing of US citizens on US soil. But Assistant Majority Leader Dick Durbin objected to allowing a vote on the resolution. So Paul resumed speaking.

Paul’s resolution said it was the sense of the Senate that “the use of drones to execute or target American citizens on American soil who pose no imminent threat clearly violates Constitutional rights” of due process.

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When an administration official claims that there are no viable reports of civilian casualties, belief is beggared. That’s either a lie or hopeful blindness. So many people read into the strategy have admitted casualties. And a growing number of officials, including the former Director of National Intelligence, Dennis Blair, think parts of it are counter-productive. The former commanding general of the Joint Special Operations Command, Gen. Stanley McChrystal, is another critic. Neither opposes “targeted killing” of confirmed terrorists. Both find fault with the political-military policy that institutionalizes it.

What is that policy? No one knows. Really. We don’t. No one can explain it beyond a vague mumble about al Qaeda.

But the president is busy with other things.

He ought to change his priorities…

Obama needs to get this right. It can’t be done entirely in secret.

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Sen. Rand Paul’s filibuster will inevitably fail at its immediate objective: derailing John Brennan’s nomination to run the CIA. But as it stretches into its sixth hour, it’s already accomplished something far more significant: raising political alarm over the extraordinary breadth of the legal claims that undergird the boundless, 11-plus-year “war on terrorism.”…

Paul sometimes seemed to object to the specific platform of drones used against Americans more than [he] did the platform-independent subject of targeted killing. But Paul actually centered his long monologue on the expansive legal claims implied by targeting Americans for due-process-free execution: “If you get on a kill list, it’s kind of hard to complain… If you’re accused of a crime, I guess that’s it. … I don’t want a politician deciding my innocence or guilt.” Paul threw in criticisms of other aspects of the war on terrorism beyond targeted killing, from widespread surveillance of Americans to the abuses of state/Homeland Security intelligence “fusion centers.”…

It would be foolish to presume that Paul’s moment in the spotlight heralds a new Senate willingness to roll back the expanses of the post-9/11 security apparatus. Rubio, for instance, stopped short of endorsing any of Paul’s substantive criticisms of the war. But Paul did manage to shift what political scientists call the Overton Window — the acceptable center of gravity of discussion…

Paul’s filibuster posed a challenge to the Senate more than it does Brennan or President Obama. “Is perpetual war OK with everybody?” he asked.

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RAND PAUL’S STAND against John Brennan’s nomination as CIA director is doing the right thing for the wrong reason. Brennan has a reputation inside the intelligence community for “failing upward” and would likely not be a stellar DCI. But Sen. Paul’s objection — that Obama might use drones to kill Americans on U.S. soil — is actually dangerous. In reality, you want the president to be able to kill Americans who are attacking civilians without a court order. Does any body really think that Lincoln have gotten a warrant every time the confederates took a shot at federal property. Should George Washington have had to get a judge’s approval to fire on the rebels in the 1794 Whiskey Rebellion? When people take up arms against our country, they are making war on us–not engaging in criminal activity. If Sen. Paul’s prevails, they will have all of the protections of criminal law–and the public will have none of the protections of military force. Hardly a good bargain.

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Israel’s highest court wrestled with the same issue in 2006, ruling that it was legal for the military to kill a terrorist even if that terrorist was engaged in ordinary, everyday activity, though that power was carefully circumscribed and not to be used if other means are available.

It is the function being performed by a person, not their physical distance from the battlefield (e.g. in a café), that defines that person as a combatant.

The U.S. government wants the power to target people, including U.S. citizens, who are unlawful combatants disguised as civilians. It likely has that power under the Constitution.

Sen. Paul is confusing the issue somewhat by suggesting that the government wants the power to target people who are definite non-combatants. He is right that the Constitution does not grant that power, and that individual liberties come first regardless. But he is wrong about the distinction between combatants and non-combatants, which is really the core of the problem.

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This filibuster excites me for the same reasons — a return to the Old Ways, the ways that actually work, the way American politics is actually supposed to be conducted, with Senators offering thoughtful defenses of their positions and, above all, insisting that this nation is We the People not We the Ministers & Lesser Bureaucratic Warlords of Whatever Current Government the Public Has Had the Folly to Install In Office.

I don’t entirely agree with Rand Paul, at least if he’s arguing for an absolute bar– the Terrorist On His Way To Deliver a Working Nuke to NYC obviously (to me anyway) merits a unilateral exercise of prophylactic lethal force (assuming time won’t permit regular order to be followed).

But this filibuster is bigger even than that issue (which is itself large). This filibuster is about the basic character of a Democratic Republic, and restoring that character to good working order.

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Tea Party groups are already rallying to the cause. The conservative group FreedomWorks issued a statement Wednesday afternoon calling for other senators to “Stand with Rand.”

The NRSC also tweeted support of the filibuster, asking followers to “stand with us…

The support of other Republicans has the potential to boost Paul’s political standing.

One of his biggest political hurdles, should he run for the presidency, is appealing to mainstream conservatives wary of his libertarian foreign policy streak. The backing of his Senate Tea Party compatriots (and others) on this high-profile filibuster could help him do just that.

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But if Paul is waiting for an official White House response to his efforts, it seems he won’t be getting one anytime soon.

For now, the White House tells POLITICO, it has nothing to say.

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I’ve been multitasking, checkin in/out here. So the filibuster is over? Did we win any victories big or small?

Jackalope on March 7, 2013 at 1:27 AM

Jackalope on March 7, 2013 at 1:27 AM

#1 on twitter … world-wide, apparently (i don’t tweet)

gh on March 7, 2013 at 1:29 AM

Chrissy

Rusty Allen on March 7, 2013 at 1:31 AM

thatsafactjack on March 7, 2013 at 1:22 AM

dear jackie, i’m tired. rand wore me out but i beg to differ. to me it’s about the right to privacy. i don’t want any drone anywhere near me or mine for any reason. in fact i’m working on an rpg designed to take out any drones within 500 miles of my current location. I will call it the First Response Eradication Device.

fred

jrsrigmvr on March 7, 2013 at 1:31 AM

Just saw a Volkswagen ad on TV that referred to the “Lamestream media.”

And they said Palin was an idiot. How’s that Hopey Changey workin’ for ya?

John the Libertarian on March 7, 2013 at 1:33 AM

jrsrigmvr on March 7, 2013 at 1:31 AM

Information mining via drone is another subject that needs to be addressed in those regulations and protocols that I mentioned, Fred. The fact is that I believe we still have a right to privacy, on the internet, the telephone and in our homes and businesses, and that the authorities should be required to get a warrant to perform any kind of search, including those mentioned. I’m hopeful that this is another aspect of the debate that gets addressed thanks to the events of this evening, however, I’m afraid that the freedoms we knew are going to be abridged to some degree, and I’m already pressuring my congressmen to address this issue and prevent as much of it as possible.

thatsafactjack on March 7, 2013 at 1:36 AM

SWalker on March 7, 2013 at 1:19 AM

That is news to me … I thought modern drones were invented in the 1990s by the israelis … I’ve been wrong before. However, it rings a bell.

gh on March 7, 2013 at 1:24 AM

Not entirely mistaken, the drones used by the police during the 70, 80′s and 90′s, were little more than remote control model airplanes. There were no computerized self control capabilities, that’s what the Israel’s did. The code I was writing back then was PIC logic for the RC servomotors.

Basically what the Israeli’s did was to make the Drones mobile airborne platforms that did not need the operator to be in direct line of sight of the drone.

Things like flight turbulence and loss of radio signal can cause a simple RC aircraft to crash. That is the brilliance of the Israeli innovation, the Drone’s now have the ability on-board to make flight corrections that used to require a human operator.

SWalker on March 7, 2013 at 1:37 AM

thatsafactjack on March 7, 2013 at 1:36 AM

Jackie: I’m quite sure we’re on the same page. Today’s filibuster boiled down was simply a defense of the fifth amendment. Taking out someone while bypassing the fifth is just unacceptable. Due process is one of the cornerstones of America and for that I support Rand 100%.

Next up I want a record breaking filibuster defending the second. Who will step up? After what I saw today I think Cruz should be #1 and rand can run interference. Would make for a tuff choice in 2016 Huh.

Fred

jrsrigmvr on March 7, 2013 at 1:47 AM

Impressive! I hope more people start waking up and see that our Republic is slipping away. Hooray for the Tea Party!

Kini on March 7, 2013 at 1:48 AM

I was monotasking. That’s doing just one thing. Try it. Its almost impossible.

SparkPlug on March 7, 2013 at 1:51 AM

thatsafactjack on March 7, 2013 at 1:36 AM

Jackie: I’m quite sure we’re on the same page. Today’s filibuster boiled down was simply a defense of the fifth amendment. Taking out someone while bypassing the fifth is just unacceptable. Due process is one of the cornerstones of America and for that I support Rand 100%.

Next up I want a record breaking filibuster defending the second. Who will step up? After what I saw today I think Cruz should be #1 and rand can run interference. Would make for a tuff choice in 2016 Huh.

Fred

jrsrigmvr on March 7, 2013 at 1:47 AM

Indeed, well said Fred… ;)

SWalker on March 7, 2013 at 1:51 AM

besser tot als rot on March 7, 2013 at 12:59 AM

…lighten up!…or light up!

KOOLAID2 on March 7, 2013 at 1:53 AM

I was monotasking. That’s doing just one thing. Try it. Its almost impossible.

SparkPlug on March 7, 2013 at 1:51 AM

Wanker, doing one thing at a time is a piece of cake pie, try doing nothing at a time, that take some very serious concentration and nerves of pure titanium… ;p

SWalker on March 7, 2013 at 1:53 AM

SparkPlug on March 7, 2013 at 1:51 AM

Wanker, doing one thing at a time is a piece of cake pie, try doing nothing at a time, that take some very serious concentration and nerves of pure titanium… ;p

SWalker on March 7, 2013 at 1:53 AM

Oh yea, and it’s called Noneotasking… ;p

SWalker on March 7, 2013 at 1:54 AM

SWalker on March 7, 2013 at 1:54 AM

Hey that’s a good one. Noneotasking. Try doing that just nonce.

SparkPlug on March 7, 2013 at 1:59 AM

So…

Rusty Allen on March 7, 2013 at 2:00 AM

SWalker on March 7, 2013 at 1:54 AM

Hey that’s a good one. Noneotasking. Try doing that just nonce.

SparkPlug on March 7, 2013 at 1:59 AM

Somethings should probably be left to the professionals… ;p

SWalker on March 7, 2013 at 2:04 AM

Everyone crapped out.

Rusty Allen on March 7, 2013 at 2:10 AM

Adios: vaya con dios

Fred

jrsrigmvr on March 7, 2013 at 2:10 AM

Scrumpy seemed upset and left.

Rusty Allen on March 7, 2013 at 2:12 AM

Everyone crapped out.

Rusty Allen on March 7, 2013 at 2:10 AM

Yup, and it’s still way early out here on the Left Coast… O_O

SWalker on March 7, 2013 at 2:12 AM

SWalker on March 7, 2013 at 2:12 AM

You in Cali?

Rusty Allen on March 7, 2013 at 2:14 AM

SWalker on March 7, 2013 at 2:12 AM

You in Cali?

Rusty Allen on March 7, 2013 at 2:14 AM

Well duh, where else would a former Rock Star live? Insane Diego Country baby… :)

SWalker on March 7, 2013 at 2:15 AM

SWalker on March 7, 2013 at 2:15 AM

Right on.

Rusty Allen on March 7, 2013 at 2:17 AM

COME BACK SCRUMPY.

We really like you.

SparkPlug on March 7, 2013 at 2:17 AM

SparkPlug on March 7, 2013 at 2:17 AM

Yeah, no kidding.

Rusty Allen on March 7, 2013 at 2:19 AM

SWalker on March 7, 2013 at 2:15 AM

Right on.

Rusty Allen on March 7, 2013 at 2:17 AM

Yup, a citizen of the Peoples Kleptocratic Marxist Republic of Kalifornia…. O_O

SWalker on March 7, 2013 at 2:20 AM

I like California. But I plan to retire to Arizona.

Rusty Allen on March 7, 2013 at 2:21 AM

I like California. But I plan to retire to Arizona.

Rusty Allen on March 7, 2013 at 2:21 AM

I would consider retiring elsewhere, but slaves have to be sold, and Kalifornia aint about to sell me while they think they can still get money out of me… O_O

SWalker on March 7, 2013 at 2:24 AM

Oh, and if ya’ll aint read my latest rant… Well why the hell not? It aint even go no maff in it… ;p

Those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end

SWalker on March 7, 2013 at 2:25 AM

Nothing on CNN. Incredible.

Rusty Allen on March 7, 2013 at 2:27 AM

Nothing on CNN. Incredible.

Rusty Allen on March 7, 2013 at 2:27 AM

About what? CNN only broadcasts the Propaganda that’s fit to broadcast…

SWalker on March 7, 2013 at 2:32 AM

Here’s a list of Senator’s supporting Sen.Paul’s filibuster.

The Republican senators who participated in the filibuster with Paul include, Sens. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), Mike Lee (R-Utah), Pat Toomey (R-Penn.), John Thune (R-S.D.), John Barrasso (R-Wy.), Tim Scott (R-S.C.), John Cornyn (R-Texas), Jerry Moran (R-Kan.), Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.).

Send them a note thanking them. Send the other GOP cowards that didn’t participate a note also.

Kini on March 7, 2013 at 2:32 AM

Here’s a list of Senator’s supporting Sen.Paul’s filibuster.

The Republican senators who participated in the filibuster with Paul include, Sens. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), Mike Lee (R-Utah), Pat Toomey (R-Penn.), John Thune (R-S.D.), John Barrasso (R-Wy.), Tim Scott (R-S.C.), John Cornyn (R-Texas), Jerry Moran (R-Kan.), Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.).

Send them a note thanking them. Send the other GOP cowards that didn’t participate a note also.

Kini on March 7, 2013 at 2:32 AM

Yes, we should always send OUR employees a note thanking them for showing up to work and dong their jobs.

SWalker on March 7, 2013 at 2:35 AM

Ok, well this thread seems to have gone the way of the Dodo Bird, so I guess I’m going to wander off and play guitar for awhile, ya’ll have a nice night… Peace out…. or something.

SWalker on March 7, 2013 at 2:40 AM

I’m impressed by Ron Wyden. He’s a good guy.

Rusty Allen on March 7, 2013 at 2:40 AM

Night.

Rusty Allen on March 7, 2013 at 2:40 AM

Good morning Detroit!

Rusty Allen on March 7, 2013 at 3:05 AM

Hey Rusty. Just catching up on QOTD and the other Rand Paul thread. While the Conservative Young Guns were defending freedom, my weasel Sen was wining and dining with POTUS. Guess I’ll call his office later today to ask where he stands on drones killing Americans on American soil.

indypat on March 7, 2013 at 3:31 AM

Tweet from several hours ago from David Limbaugh that I just saw:

Then again, it might really send em over the edge if someone could read The Manchurian Candidate on the Senate floor.

Limbaugh family get-togethers must be something.

INC on March 7, 2013 at 3:49 AM

What happen today was historical, refreshing and it should wake up everyone to the fact our Republic is slipping away.

Last night, good night….

Kini on March 7, 2013 at 4:03 AM

BOOM! GOP Rep. Andy Harris obliterates head of CDC over reduction of vaccines due to sequester cuts

VIDEO MUST WATCH!

Kini on March 7, 2013 at 4:45 AM

The “white house” won’t say it. Cruz had to kick Holder in the balls several times in order to get him to mumble something semi-affirmative.

gh on March 7, 2013 at 12:31 AM

hee hee

garnkikaloid on March 7, 2013 at 4:52 AM

BOOM! GOP Rep. Andy Harris obliterates head of CDC over reduction of vaccines due to sequester cuts

VIDEO MUST WATCH!

Kini on March 7, 2013 at 4:45 AM

Owned. now only if they could take that partisan liar jacka** CDC director and throw him up against the nearest wall…

tom daschle concerned on March 7, 2013 at 5:06 AM

Does any body really think that Lincoln have gotten a warrant every time the confederates took a shot at federal property. Should George Washington have had to get a judge’s approval to fire on the rebels in the 1794 Whiskey Rebellion? When people take up arms against our country, they are making war on us

This bit by a guy named Miniter quoted over at Ricochet (via the link in this post) is just disgusting. Lincoln told the supreme court, Chief Justice Taney specficially to pound sand on habeus corpus. Lincoln rounded up newspaper editors/owners via federal troops for speaking ill of his policies. The Whiskey rebellion is hardly just about a bunch of farmers shooting taxmen either. Washington slinked away and let Hamilton and his cronies get their tax money, making most of the rules as they went along.

How about when the government takes up arms against the citizens? Attempts to ban/seize arms from peaceable, law-abiding people (who wish to defend themselves from criminals)? Sell/walk guns to drug lords who use the guns to kill innocents? Are they not making war on us?

oryguncon on March 7, 2013 at 5:10 AM

so is it officially over? what’s happening?

cmsinaz on March 7, 2013 at 5:45 AM

the trashing of rand paul to continue on morning joe I’m sure…

cmsinaz on March 7, 2013 at 5:48 AM

ahhh the trashing is well he put on a good show but it wasn’t the longest filibuster so nanny nany boo boo

cmsinaz on March 7, 2013 at 5:53 AM

I think that what Rand Paul is doing is great, however I wish he could have found a better hill to die on. Sure, theoretical drone strikes on US soil is outrageous. However, if he were going to use a good old timey filibuster I wish he would do it on the continuing resolution that the Donks are sure to try to use to hike taxes again or to block some new unconscionable “investment” idea or energy reduction measure.

MJBrutus on March 7, 2013 at 5:56 AM

mika is not on, so they are being kind to Paul…actually admire him for doing this…

color me surprised

cmsinaz on March 7, 2013 at 6:04 AM

My prediction: epic day of deep, deep concern (trolling) and character assassination.

With a dash of guilt by association, and racism for good measure.

tom daschle concerned on March 7, 2013 at 6:31 AM

I’ve been multitasking, checkin in/out here. So the filibuster is over? Did we win any victories big or small?

Jackalope on March 7, 2013 at 1:27 AM

I guess I’m now a twitter guy. I’ve had an account but never used it until last night.

Maybe this won’t be his last filibuster! :) Or the GOP’s! Now what excuse are they going to have? Rand Paul proved one Republican can make a difference! The elites and the lazy aren’t going to like this. Now they can’t whine as much “We’re in the minority. We’d stop that Democrat atrocity of a bill but it’s soooo hard to get anything done in the Senate. I guess we’ll have to compromise and give in”

And what about Boehner and Cantor? The old freaking guard! The only thing they are guarding is their biscuits!

JellyToast on March 7, 2013 at 6:34 AM

While I may not agree with all his political stands, I sure did with this one. I wish all the Republicans had his gumption.
My take.

By the way, I see the Concern Trolling has already begun.

kingsjester on March 7, 2013 at 6:40 AM

tom daschle concerned on March 7, 2013 at 6:31 AM

guaranteed

cmsinaz on March 7, 2013 at 6:43 AM

kingsjester on March 7, 2013 at 6:40 AM

nice one KJ

funny the lsm makes fun of rand for not filibustering as long as strom but they don’t mention what he was filibustering….hypocrites…

cmsinaz on March 7, 2013 at 6:46 AM

cmsinaz on March 7, 2013 at 6:46 AM

Thank you, ma’am

Our Blatant Trolls and Concern Trolls will be calling Rand everything but a child of God today, as we’ve already seen.

kingsjester on March 7, 2013 at 6:54 AM

“Is perpetual war OK with everybody?” he asked.

I’d have to know your definition of “peace” before I could answer that. A better question might be: “Is perpetually engaging your enemies OK?” or “Is perpetually defending freedom OK?”. Probably.

Lots of little wars are better than a big war, at this point in history.

Buddahpundit on March 7, 2013 at 6:59 AM

kingsjester on March 7, 2013 at 6:54 AM

yepper

cmsinaz on March 7, 2013 at 7:04 AM

YYYAAawwwnn….

Paul in a few hours…

Good for him.

Electrongod on March 7, 2013 at 7:13 AM

kingsjester on March 7, 2013 at 6:40 AM

Thanks for posting your thoughts-I always enjoy reading them. The disregard for the Constitution is breath-taking and ominous. If Rand Paul had not stood up for the fight, it would have been just another day in DC.

indypat on March 7, 2013 at 7:38 AM

Last night, good night….

Kini on March 7, 2013 at 4:03 AM

It was… Gives me hope.

Fallon on March 7, 2013 at 7:46 AM

My prediction: epic day of deep, deep concern (trolling) and character assassination.

With a dash of guilt by association, and racism for good measure.

tom daschle concerned on March 7, 2013 at 6:31 AM

Our people better push back hard on the attacks…

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LOL

What am I thinking? McCain, Graham et al are probably having breakfast at the White House this morning.

*shaking my head*

Fallon on March 7, 2013 at 7:50 AM

Our Blatant Trolls and Concern Trolls will be calling Rand everything but a child of God today, as we’ve already seen.

kingsjester on March 7, 2013 at 6:54 AM

We’re all children of God! It is a tough thing to remember when confronted with the parasites of the left and so-called conservatives who are anything but because of their willingness to cave on issues that they don’t care about instead of holding a consistent position based on principle. I literally have to pray to God daily not to hate these people.

Happy Nomad on March 7, 2013 at 7:51 AM

What am I thinking? McCain, Graham et al are probably having breakfast at the White House this morning.

Fallon on March 7, 2013 at 7:50 AM

Yeah McCain and his mini-me are just the kind of go-along to get-along “Republicans” that should be replaced.

Happy Nomad on March 7, 2013 at 7:53 AM

What am I thinking? McCain, Graham et al are probably having breakfast at the White House this morning.

Fallon on March 7, 2013 at 7:50 AM

Oh they’re having “breakfast” all right, and afterwards they will head out for something to eat.

Bishop on March 7, 2013 at 8:01 AM

I have been pleading for months for ONE GOP’er to step forth with a hardened spine and steel testicles and to give it up for his Country. ONE.

Thank you Rand Paul, you are the first member of my political Hall of Fame post-2008.

hillsoftx on March 7, 2013 at 8:10 AM

I figure if even five percent of the Army Housewives/American Idol watching public was made aware of the slippery slope our govrnment is on then Paul’s filibuster was a huge success. Spread the word and Stand with Rand!!

dddave on March 7, 2013 at 8:35 AM

Next up I want a record breaking filibuster defending the second. Who will step up? After what I saw today I think Cruz should be #1 and rand can run interference. Would make for a tuff choice in 2016 Huh.

Fred

jrsrigmvr on March 7, 2013 at 1:47 AM

Or the first amendment…freedom of religion. As Rand talked about changing the definition of “imminent” to whatever the administration needs to accommodate the drone policy, the administration is also changing the definition of “religion” to “worship” – which means that your freedom of religion is confined to 4 walls of a church on a holy day. Same violation of the constitution.

I think with this administration, we can find violations of the entire Bill of Rights. GOP senators should take turns and do one of these every week.

monalisa on March 7, 2013 at 8:49 AM

Young bucks, new GOP power brokers join Paul…

… While old guard dines with Obama

Bmore on March 7, 2013 at 8:59 AM

indypat on March 7, 2013 at 7:38 AM

Thank you!

kingsjester on March 7, 2013 at 8:59 AM

Send them a note thanking them. Send the other GOP cowards that didn’t participate a note also.

Kini on March 7, 2013 at 2:32 AM

I also send my House Reps a note indicating they should learn from Rand Paul’s actions. The Constitution is above the Presidency AND their own office. Now is not the time for pretty speeches to the press or their constituents… now is the time for action. The House controls the power of the purse and I have not seen a single viable suggestion from the House Republicans to suspend funds for implementing Obamacare or the dozen or so agencies that trample the Constitution every day. I expect them to get off the bench and press forward and fight for their constituents. And if they won’t do it, I will work to find someone who will.

dominigan on March 7, 2013 at 9:59 AM

In followup, I hope everyone realizes that now is the time for Republicans Conservatives in the Senate AND House to press forward. Obama cannot defend multiple flanks. Now is the time to overrun his defenses and stop his agenda cold.

Contact your House members too!

dominigan on March 7, 2013 at 10:02 AM

Resist We Much on March 7, 2013 at 12:20 AM

Are you married? If you are not – I would Love to date you!

Either way – I Love you!

williamg on March 7, 2013 at 11:49 AM

Well I didn’t so sorry, and if I misread you I apologise also…

Scrumpy on March 7, 2013 at 1:00 AM

No worries :)

besser tot als rot on March 7, 2013 at 1:06 PM

So cool. I missed a good chunk of your dialogues last night but perusing the discussions proves that it was a grand night.

Thank you all, even if you disagreed with each other. It’s still a free land and the exchange of ideas is marvelous.

Special regards to Scrumpy and besser tot als rot. Scheisse happens but you are both wonderful people. Only good upon you and the land you cherish.

Schadenfreude on March 7, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Resist We Much on March 7, 2013 at 12:20 AM
Are you married? If you are not – I would Love to date you!

Either way – I Love you!

williamg on March 7, 2013 at 11:49 AM

…get in the back of the line!

KOOLAID2 on March 7, 2013 at 1:56 PM

Well I didn’t so sorry, and if I misread you I apologise also…

Scrumpy on March 7, 2013 at 1:00 AM
No worries :)

besser tot als rot on March 7, 2013 at 1:06 PM

…*smooch*…
(:->)

KOOLAID2 on March 7, 2013 at 1:58 PM

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