Quotes of the day
posted at 10:41 pm on March 5, 2013 by Allahpundit
Senate Republicans involved in touchy negotiations to overhaul immigration laws reaffirmed their commitment Tuesday to establishing a path to citizenship for those now living in the United States illegally — despite a surprising defection on the key issue from former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush…
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), a member of the group, said he was “surprised” by Bush’s proposal, particularly since it comes from a governor who had long been out front on the need for an immigration overhaul and is well-liked in the Hispanic community…
“From a policy point of view, I don’t think it’s the right approach. I don’t like the idea of having millions of people here for their entire life without being able to assimilate into America,” he said. “From a political point of view, we’ve got 55 Democrats sent and a 72 percent support for a path to citizenship. It’s just not practical to think we’ll be able to pass any bill in the United States Senate without a path to citizenship.”
Bush’s new position is also substantially to the right of that of Sen. Marco Rubio and the so-called Gang of Eight. Their proposal, still in outline form, would “create a tough but fair path to citizenship for unauthorized immigrants currently living in the United States..” Under the Bush proposal, there would be no path for those who came here illegally as adults.
It is not clear how Bush’s new plan will play politically. Opponents of the Gang of Eight proposal particularly object to its “immediate legalization” measure, which would, on its first day in effect, legalize all illegal immigrants who have not committed serious crimes. The Bush proposal also has a legalization provision, although it would require illegal immigrants to first plead guilty to the crime of entering the United States illegally. But the path to citizenship is thought to be an absolute essential for Democrats supporting the Gang of Eight plan. Their ultimate hope in immigration reform is to create millions of new Democratic voters out of those who are currently in the country illegally. That wouldn’t happen under Bush’s plan.
Beyond the details of competing plans, Bush’s new proposal could have an effect on his relationship with Rubio. The Florida Republican senator is showing signs of getting ready for a 2016 presidential run, and Bush, in interviews for the new book, is declining to rule out running himself. That means the two friends and political allies could be on a collision course. Many Republican insiders have thought it impossible that both men would run in ’16, but it’s not clear what might happen.
That Rubio now must convince Bush to swing left on immigration represents an ironic role reversal for the two Florida politicians. Just a few months ago, it was Rubio who publicly opposed a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants and Bush who explicitly favored the idea.
“I thought about that issue a lot and [went] back and forth on it before I signed on to my principles and I just concluded that it’s not good for the country in the long term to have millions and millions of people who are forever prohibited from becoming citizens,” Rubio told reporters on his way to a Senate vote. “That hasn’t worked out well for Europe.”
The stunning reversal by one of the Republican Party’s leading champions of immigration reform and Hispanic outreach, at least in part, comes down to a colossal political miscalculation.
When Bush and co-author Clint Bolick were writing the book during the 2012 presidential campaign, the GOP was veering far to the right. Republican nominee Mitt Romney had staked out a hardline position against illegal immigration, blasting his primary rivals as pro-amnesty and promoting “self-deportation” for undocumented workers. Bush sent the book to the printer before Christmas – weeks before a handful of Senate Republicans embraced a sweeping overhaul that, like the proposals backed by Bush’s brother, former President George W. Bush, would allow illegal immigrants to earn citizenship.
In other words, Bush’s party unexpectedly moved a lot faster than the book publishing world…
“He sent the book to the printer at a time when he was anticipating the direction of the debate tilting against citizenship. It is clearly contrary to what he has said before,” said Marshall Fitz, director of immigration policy at the liberal Center for American Progress. “In hindsight, Americans have always judged severely efforts to deny citizenship to classes of people. Is this really the GOP’s path out of the political wilderness?”
Bush’s aside about the beliefs of “mainstream” conservative movement gestures toward what Frank Sharry, executive director of the America’s Voice Education Fund, claims is the primary reason for the governor’s new position.
“It was aimed at paving the way for a run for president,” Sharry said. “He decides to shoot out what he thought would be the middle of the debate, and a somewhat progressive position.”…
“It just seems to me that Jeb Bush is rusty,” said Sharry. “He is going to be an outspoken proponent [of a path to citizenship] again by the end of the week.”
The point of this supposedly less generous form of amnesty, which has been floated by others as well, is to con Republican skeptics into backing an amnesty bill by creating the pretense of compromise. Such an approach would permit GOP House members to say they were sticking it to Obama by voting for something he supposedly opposes.
There’s no compromise involved, of course, because the point of the amnesty push is to give illegal aliens legal status so they can stay here legally the rest of their lives — the nature of that status is just a detail. But the strategy had, and still has, promise. Time swallowed the fairy tale that the proposal isn’t amnesty, and acknowledged that Bush’s goal in floating the proposal is to “soften the ground for the Party to move to the center on the issue” — i.e., vote for amnesty. Likewise, the New York Times comically described it as a “middle-ground option”.
But then today Jeb blows it by recanting his position in his brand new book, saying “we wrote this last year.” In other words, “Last year I thought I had to pretend to support a less generous form of amnesty to dupe my fellow Republicans, but now that the Democrats, my allies on immigration, are in a stronger political position, I can stop pretending.”
And people are talking about him for 2016? Give me a break.
If Jeb Bush decides to convert his media tour into a presidential bid in a couple years, he won’t have to look far for a campaign staff: The well-funded education foundation he runs out his office in a Miami hotel is stacked with former political operatives, a large communications team, and a rapidly growing staff whose work stretches into 40 states…
“The chatter is he’s up to something,” said Florida Democratic operative Christian Ulvert. “He has a robust staff and has positioned himself on policy issues. You can safely say his eyes are focused on some form of higher office.”…
Another Republican, who has worked with Bush for years and requested anonymity to speculate about his plans, said that he is more serious about running than national pundits have acknowledged.
For some Republicans, Mr. Bush would be the prohibitive favorite if he chose to run for president in four years. And with a political and financial base in Florida, Mr. Bush would probably make it hard — if not impossible — for Mr. Rubio to run at the same time. (Both men heap praise on each other, suggesting that they would not run at the same time.)
But if Mr. Bush were to run and win the Republican nomination, it is possible he could face Hillary Rodham Clinton as the Democratic nominee. That would set up a second Bush-Clinton race 21 years after his father lost his re-election bid to Bill Clinton.
“We’re going to face a very formidable opponent on the other side if it’s Secretary Clinton,” said John Weaver, a Republican consultant who supports moderate candidates. “We have to put our ‘A team’ out there, and that begins with Jeb Bush.”
Via the Daily Caller.
“I have supported both – both a path to legalization or a path to citizenship – with the underlining principle being that there should be no incentive for people to come illegally at the expense of coming legally,” he said. “Today the only path to come to this country other, than family re-unification, is to come illegally. We need to create another category of legal immigration where there is actually a line. So if you could create that through a path to citizenship I would support that.”
“I’ve always felt that you could not deal with 11 million people and say, ‘See you later,’” he said later.
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Please don’t inject reality into this.
tgharris on May 14, 2013 at 10:50 PM
There are 3 cities on the Libyian coast with airports of note. Benghazi is one of them, easternmost. If you were flying in weapons heading east,, what would you pick? Tripoli is all the way west. 120 miles or so from Tunisia.
Stevens had dinner that night with who?
They were running guns, folks.
Security was kept low as to not draw attention.
wolly4321 on May 14, 2013 at 10:52 PM
You’ll have to pardon Babs Boxer. Just like Pelosi, Botox is taking it’s toll.
GarandFan on May 14, 2013 at 10:56 PM
“There is no distinctly American criminal class – except Congress.” – Mark Twain
Dr. ZhivBlago on May 14, 2013 at 10:59 PM
And what is your point?
Such a fact would work to excuse the lies and put the exposure on CIA.
Helps Hillary and POTUS.
No?
IlikedAUH2O on May 14, 2013 at 10:59 PM
I detested the dumb remark about Sandra Fluke during the last campaign.
If Rushbo wants to call a woman a derogatory name….just lookie here.
IlikedAUH2O on May 14, 2013 at 11:01 PM
holy fluck you are an idiot.
tom daschle concerned on May 14, 2013 at 11:06 PM
What the hell is she wearing? She looks like she’s about to lead a Jazzercise class.
And she’s an idiot.
LASue on May 14, 2013 at 11:12 PM
You really don’t get it, do you?
No, it doesn’t help them. How would it?
CIA? Yea,. They are all complicit and shifting blame in a shell game.
Jihad is legitimate as a tenet of islam? Who said that?
These gubmint agencies may be fighting each other in the aftermath, but they started out in concert with each other. when it falls apart they isolate and blame each other.
Look at f&f. Same thing. Blame game.
wolly4321 on May 14, 2013 at 11:19 PM
Lies, bullshxt, lies, distractions, lies, propaganda, lies, Boxer, and lies.
Kenosha Kid on May 14, 2013 at 11:35 PM
Where’s a fire hose when you need it?
RobertMN on May 14, 2013 at 11:49 PM
Low information voters will hear her and believe her, and repeat it ad nauseum. That’s why the democrats lie perpetually even after the truth comes out. They know the lies will be long-lived, because the media supports the lies and ignores the truth.
The Rogue Tomato on May 14, 2013 at 11:57 PM
Barbara Boxer would be the dumbest person in the Senate, but she’s been bumped back by Patty Murray, Klochubar, and Babs Mikulski. Between the four of them, if brains were beans, they don’t have enough to make a bee fart.
Clearly funding wasn’t the issue, and just as clearly Boxer and Democrats are desperate to derail the investigation because of what it is certain to turn up. Because if the mountains of paper and dozens of witnesses Obama is blocking Congress from seeing were in any way helpful to him, or proved he was telling the truth, they would already be out.
Adjoran on May 15, 2013 at 12:03 AM
TDC- yep.
wolly4321 on May 15, 2013 at 12:12 AM
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The only mistake ( maybe ) he made is not inquiring whether Ms Fluke was campaigning for herself, as well as others.
If she was including herself in the number of “needy” college girls, then the shoe F I T !
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Conservative radio talk-show hosts should have no boundaries on them for using legitimate words in common usage, whether others deem it to be too vulgar or not.
listens2glenn on May 15, 2013 at 12:28 AM
..what an absolutely horrid piece of of flesh this creature is; a festering pile of pig afterbirth decaying in the 103 degree afternoon Barstow sun is more appealing than she. A rancid, fetid mound of cow diarrhea attracts a smaller swarm of flies than she. Reminds me of a dumpster full of used Kotexes, she does..
..I want to vomit.
The War Planner on May 15, 2013 at 12:37 AM
OK. Calling a law student a “slut” during a presidential campaign in front of 20 million listeners must make sense to some people but I am sure not one of them.
She wanted freebies. I really didn’t care about her sex habits and using that term just generated a lot of heat and very little light on the real subject.
IlikedAUH2O on May 15, 2013 at 12:48 AM
Bingo! Yep, MSNBC and the rest have a new video and needn’t worry about any truth in it.
IlikedAUH2O on May 15, 2013 at 12:51 AM
Turkish embassy person.
And our people ask for more security and the high and mighty decline it, over and over.
Still makes no sense.
IlikedAUH2O on May 15, 2013 at 12:57 AM
About Boxer: I didn’t know that donkey squeeze could talk.
hamradio on May 15, 2013 at 12:59 AM
Every now and then, Babs (Oops, that’s Sen. Babs) has to demonstrate to the world how truly stupid she is.
Today she did just that.
Another Drew on May 15, 2013 at 1:49 AM
Oh, Babs will go down with the ship. She’s a fanatic.
mojo on May 15, 2013 at 1:50 AM
Pathetic.
Delusional.
Democrat tool.
profitsbeard on May 15, 2013 at 2:34 AM
Shameless stupidity. And a reflection on her seriousness as a Senator.
pat on May 15, 2013 at 2:38 AM
Charlene Lamb testified in sworn testimony to Congress that budget was not a factor in cutting the security arrangements in Libya. She said it was a policy decision to go with a “lighter footprint” in a “laughably naive notion that if we were weak enough, nobody would see us as a threat so they wouldn’t attack us”. Ok, maybe I made up the “laughably naive” part, but the rest of it is true.
Boxer is, as usual, being dishonest.
crosspatch on May 15, 2013 at 4:18 AM
The Benghazi embassy was intentionally left to fly in the wind and everyone who is paying attention recognizes this. Boxer’s screeching is but the sound of nothing but stupid usery and I’d bet she knows this herself.
Whether it was a Hillary-plan or an Obama one handed down by indirect suggestions or direct nastiness on the lawn or across the street from the WH in that Islam-associated coffee shop, it was certainly an intentional act to reduce-deny security protections to that embassy location — or to the staff associated with the place (either/or, personnel or location, “what does it matter”).
Lourdes on May 15, 2013 at 4:35 AM
If the only way to get this jackass out of the Senate is to give California back to Mehico, I say “Let’s do it!”
olesparkie on May 15, 2013 at 6:03 AM
There are many worthy nominees for absolute dumbest member of Congress (both houses), but Boxer seems to always find a way to justify her perpetual inclusion on that list.
If want to know why California will sink into the Pacific long before any earthquake forces the issue, look no further than who they keep electing: Queen Pelosi, Gov Moonbeam, their entire state legislature, and yes, Barbara Boxer.
NeoCon_1 on May 15, 2013 at 7:09 AM
Barbara,
Let’s say for a minute that you are correct and that it is completely the GOP’s fault that there was less money for diplomatic security at the time of the Benghazi fiasco.
Now, explain how that results in the GOP being responsible for the Obama administration ignoring warnings of possible terrorist attacks in Egypt.
Next explain how the lack of funding caused the Obama administration to purposefully lie about the cause of the Benghazi attack and use the full weight of the U.S. Gov’t to go after someone for exerting his first amendment rights in making a video?
You see Babs, even assuming that your idiotic first claim is true, it doesn’t absolve Obama for incompetence and dishonesty.
Monkeytoe on May 15, 2013 at 7:32 AM
Point to Schumer, since he’s in charge of messaging. I can’t believe the Democrats are going here, but then this isn’t for normal people, this is for the low information voter.
bflat879 on May 15, 2013 at 7:52 AM
Another glowing example of the wisdom found in California politics!
Pardonme on May 15, 2013 at 7:56 AM
I bet he’s a Republican HACK! Investigate his political contributions!
/libstupidity (let’s!)
Axeman on May 15, 2013 at 8:01 AM
What difference does it make who cut security–whether it was Republicans and their voodoo cuts in the unpassed Ryan budget or some guys out for a walk one night who decided to cut security for the Libyan consulate.
Axeman on May 15, 2013 at 8:11 AM
As I said the first time they tried this: Democrats had claimed that the only reason that cons don’t like big government is that they can’t manage it like libs can. But now they say that without as much funding as they can theorize, they can’t allocate a minimum level of security for one of the hottest embassies on the planet.
Cutting funding is bad. Cutting funding is bad….the first word on Obamacare was to “bend the cost curve downward”. We were spending “too much” (for an aging populace?) on medical care.
Axeman on May 15, 2013 at 8:17 AM
The “repubs cut funding” must have gone out on journolist, or the super-double-secret meetings, or Valerie’s texts, or whatever. I’ve seen them trying that one quite a bit lately.
Boudica on May 15, 2013 at 8:27 AM
It was already stated by state that funding had no role. Running lies is bad enough. How stupid do you have to be to run a lie that the administration had debunked. Really really stupid Senator.
scboy on May 15, 2013 at 8:47 AM
lipstick on a hag…still a hag…a hag in a pantsuit
crosshugger on May 15, 2013 at 8:53 AM
Of all the scandals we get to choose from lately, it seems like Benghazi is the one they are freaking out about the most, and trying to act like they really don’t care about it. “No big deal, just rethuglicans hyper-partisan hysteria, move along…” But really, this is the one they are peeing their pants(suits) over.
Boudica on May 15, 2013 at 9:01 AM
Senile ‘ol biddy. I cannot believe Cali re-elected her. What a bunch of goofs out there.
jake49 on May 15, 2013 at 9:47 AM
Gee, another bad case of plastic face. Her face is as phony as the rest of her.
{^_^}
herself on May 15, 2013 at 10:13 AM
Barbara Boxer should thank her lucky stars for Maxine Waters, the only person keeping her from being the stupidest member of Congress.
Tyrone Slothrop on May 15, 2013 at 10:42 AM
It would be so worth going to jail for punching this woman in the face, but alas, I won’t. I wish North Korea would nuke California off the map.
F_This on May 15, 2013 at 12:42 PM
This is so F’in dumb. Even IF you grant that budget cuts could scale back security at some State Dept facilities abroad, is it even REMOTELY thinkable that we’d start with… say, I don’t know… oh, I know, facilities in a country that just had a civil war ?
Come on already. Are you really THAT dumb ? Or do you just think THAT little of the people of this country that this idea wasn’t dismissed immediately.
Give me a break.
So even IF budget cuts were a factor, wouldn’t that STILL lay at the feet of the incompetent members of the Obama administration that, faced with budget cuts for security, thought Benghazi and Libya were the places to save money ?
deadrody on May 15, 2013 at 4:30 PM
Barbara Boxer is part of the reason California is filled to the brim with unemployed illegal transient/migrant people from other places.
If the government weren’t spending so much money on GREEN ENERGY scams and filling the coffers of corrupt politicians it WOULD have enough money to fund the government departments that should be funded…i.e. like our military.
President Obama and his minions have been VERY,VERY bad boyz and gurlz…..They don’t just LIE, they believe their lies, they spread their lies and their lies have bankrupted our future and killed many in their path….AND they aren’t done folks! Expect the desperate to come unhidged!
ActinUpinTexas on May 15, 2013 at 5:03 PM
Do budget cuts cause talking points to change?
djaymick on May 15, 2013 at 8:27 PM
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