Newt gave up POWER because…

astonerii on March 5, 2013 at 12:41 PM

He was forced to.

Buttercup on March 6, 2013 at 9:32 AM

By the way, so did Romney. His approval rating was in the 30s and he was about to get hammered by Deval Patrick. Wouldn’t have looked good for that presidential run that humble ol’ Mitt never really wanted except, gosh darn it, the country just needed him and he had to bite the bullet or something.

I remember when it came up in the campaign. Newt told Pelosi to put up or shut up. So, feel free to tell me what is in those records. If there was anything that damaging, they would have already been released. My guess, is that they actually have information that damages the ethics committee more than Newt.

astonerii on March 6, 2013 at 10:45 AM

Exactly. Gingrich demanded or could have demanded that all records be unsealed. And I don’t even like Newt all that much. All it shows is the continuing bankruptcy of the ‘Bot Ethic.

He was forced to. That was the deal in order to keep his record of criminal behavior as Speaker sealed. It’s still sealed.
Have you considered writing fictional novels instead of rewriting history?

Buttercup on March 6, 2013 at 9:32 AM

He was cleared by the IRS. Where do you get your info, The Nation? Typical ‘bot, I guess. But don’t you dare suggest that anything in Romney’s financial dealings is anything less than Dudley-Do-right-esque.

He was forced to. That was the deal in order to keep his record of criminal behavior as Speaker sealed. It’s still sealed.
Have you considered writing fictional novels instead of rewriting history?

Buttercup on March 6, 2013 at 9:32 AM

Feel free to show the evidence then.

I remember when it came up in the campaign. Newt told Pelosi to put up or shut up. So, feel free to tell me what is in those records. If there was anything that damaging, they would have already been released. My guess, is that they actually have information that damages the ethics committee more than Newt.

Of course, like Jesus said. The person who has not broken a single one of the millions of laws in this nation can cast the first stone.

Newt gave up POWER because…

astonerii on March 5, 2013 at 12:41 PM

He was forced to. That was the deal in order to keep his record of criminal behavior as Speaker sealed. It’s still sealed.
Have you considered writing fictional novels instead of rewriting history?

Did they happen to mention the blistering lying attacks on Newt??

Bullhead on March 6, 2013 at 12:46 AM

A couple of us did. Romney? He never knew what was in the ads he said he approved of. Honorable man!

astonerii on March 5, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Oops. I forgot to close it out…
Romney should have loved Obamacare, it was imitation at it’s finest. An honorable man would not be so petty as to be upset that someone else accomplished what he himself wanted to.

Top reasons Romney hated Obamacare:
It was not named RomneyCare

Top reasons Romney should have loved Obamacare:
Was based on Romneycare.
Used the same smoke and mirrors of lowering the apparent cost of the program by using medicare dollars to fund it.
Used the same mechanism to force compliance, the mandate.
Will have the same religious freedom chilling effects as Romneycare in the form of tax payer funded abortions, forced access to abortions at all hospitals, forced access to birth control by religious institutions.
Empowers Planned Parenthood similarly.
A massive entitlement that transfers wealth from one group to another group, increasing government dependence for some while degrading freedom for others.
Increases costs dramatically with no commensurate benefit. Mostly by forcing people to buy prepaid healthcare plans rather than insurance policies which cover many advance planned events rather than unforeseen costs.

So it’s perfectly ok for one candidate to support mandates but not for another.

And what is it that separates these two?

Alberta_Patriot on March 5, 2013 at 2:56 PM

RomneyCare.

Well color me surprised that you are a massive hypocrite. Seems to be pretty much the way of the MORMON LIFE?

astonerii on March 4, 2013 at 2:58 PM

Alberta_Patriot on March 5, 2013 at 2:56 PM

Wow, what a vile little mouth you have on you. Is that how your parents raised you?
Is that an attack on the parents, or the individual?

So it’s perfectly ok for one candidate to support mandates but not for another.

And what is it that separates these two?

Well color me surprised that you are a massive hypocrite. Seems to be pretty much the way of the MORMON LIFE?

astonerii on March 4, 2013 at 2:58 PM

Alberta_Patriot on March 5, 2013 at 2:56 PM

When one does it to thwart the unconstitutional take over of the health care system and the other does it actually accomplish the unconstitutional take over of the health care system? I would argue they are diametrically opposed.

One argues, the only way you can do what you want is if you impose mandates, because otherwise the entire healthcare system will collapse. Viewing that the mandate is such a disgusting and vile concept that Americans would never vote for in congress.

The other argues, mandates are the only moral way to deliver medical care to everyone. From each according to their ability, to each according to their need. We must take their freedom in order to force them to pay for other peoples “rights”.

You should be more careful and make sure you quote things properly… HACK.

Family Values according to Astonerii:

Andrew Breitbart
Wives: 1
“Progressive Enabler”

Mitt Romney
Wives: 1
“@#$%ing Mormon”

Newt Gingrich
Wives: 3 (keeps sticking his @#$% in women he isn’t married to)
“True Conservative”

Alberta_Patriot on March 5, 2013 at 2:50 PM

We are not discussing Family Values. It is nice that you want to bring it up, but making a false argument like this is a DISHONORABLE method. Is it me or does Romney just bring out the WORST in people who support him? You do Romney a great service by acting the way you do, because you will know them by their fruits as the saying goes. You are one of Romney’s fruits, and you are a DISHONORABLE puke, only willing to take short cheap shots.
Alberta_Patriot, being a Bigot psychologically projects this view on anyone he does not like. It is his way of coping with his inner demons I guess.
When he cannot win the argument through attempted slander and false shaming methods, he resorts to even more vile tactics of trying to change the context of the debate to more favorable to him context.

Andrew Breitbart
Actual accomplishments in life: 1
“Progressive Enabler” who gave cover to progressive Republicans to repeal Don’t Ask Don’t Tell in order to use the Military, our defense by the way, to institute social experimentation and destroy the traditional family which has allowed America to succeed remarkably.

Mitt Romney
Executive positions: 1
“@#$%ing Mormon” “Disgusting Progressive.” My Views are Progressive Romney ran to the LEFT of one Edward Kennedy in Progressive Utopia Massachusetts. Instituted the blueprint for Obamacare and argues it is a great system and should be a model for the entire nation. Attacked coal power generation plants, instituted a carbon cap and trade system which failed right out the door, but was not willing to give up his and fellow Malthusian John Holdren’s desire to destroy energy producers in the state and began work immediately on the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative. Has not one single conservative accomplishment on his record. Ran to be the Republican nominee for president, being one the most VILE and negative campaigners in recent history on the Republican side reversed course the moment he gained the nomination and became best friends forever with Obama and ran one of the most boring and opponent enabling campaigns to have ever been ran in the history of the world.

Newt Gingrich
Wives: 3 (keeps sticking his @#$% in women he isn’t married to)
“True Conservative” Has a conservative track record of ACCOMPLISHMENT. Architect of the 1994 Republican take over of the House of Representatives and head man promoting the Contract with America which propelled the Republicans to that accomplishment. Balanced the budget for the first time in modern history, government total spending = or < Government revenues. Instituted welfare reform, the first major reduction in the power of the federal government, well, since they got rid of prohibition.

While blinded with rampant RDS – StonerII also conveniently forgets how serial RINO Gingrich supports healthcare mandates,

Buttercup on March 5, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Of course the antidote to that is to pimp the progressive who signed O-care’s blueprint into law. No wonder you’re such a bitter butthurt squish.

ddrintn on March 5, 2013 at 1:09 PM

So it’s perfectly ok for one candidate to support mandates but not for another.

And what is it that separates these two?

Well color me surprised that you are a massive hypocrite. Seems to be pretty much the way of the MORMON LIFE?

astonerii on March 4, 2013 at 2:58 PM

Andrew Breitbart
Wives: 1
“Progressive Enabler”

Mitt Romney
Wives: 1
“@#$%ing Mormon”

Newt Gingrich
Wives: 3 (keeps sticking his @#$% in women he isn’t married to)
“True Conservative”

While blinded with rampant RDS – StonerII also conveniently forgets how serial RINO Gingrich supports healthcare mandates, amnesty, endorsed liberal Dede Scozzafava over Conservative Doug Hoffman in NY23 as well as a litany of progressive causes after resigning in shame as SOTH. Then good old Newton Leroy after giving up all that power in order to avoid prison had no choice but to go make a forture off of FreddieMac.

Buttercup on March 5, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Of course the antidote to that is to pimp the progressive who signed O-care’s blueprint into law. No wonder you’re such a bitter butthurt squish.

While blinded with rampant RDS – StonerII also conveniently forgets how serial RINO Gingrich supports healthcare mandates, amnesty, endorsed liberal Dede Scozzafava over Conservative Doug Hoffman in NY23 as well as a litany of progressive causes after resigning in shame as SOTH. Then good old Newton Leroy after giving up all that power in order to avoid prison had no choice but to go make a forture off of FreddieMac.

Buttercup on March 5, 2013 at 12:13 PM

No, I do not. Go back to October, November and December and look at my posts on Newt.
Romney is a die hard pro regressive governance individual that refuses to change course when pressured by conservatives in the party.
Gingrich on the other hand, when he gets off the reservation can be brought back into the fold.

The reason Gingrich supported mandates was because they were something that Democrats at the time were unwilling to implement and thus it stopped hillarycare and stopped the push for healthcare take over for over 15 years.

Newt never faced prison. After the actions of the House of Representatives was all over, the IRS came back and said there was nothing there at all. See, the investigation went on.

Newt gave up POWER because the House refused to move on and get anything accomplished, because NEWT was pushing them to relinquish power back to the people and the states, and they were not willing to allow him to do it. The last two items on the Contract with America were term limits and a balanced budget amendment.

The Republican House members refused to term limit themselves, knew that Gingrich would eventually get his way, and thus conspired with Democrats to stop it.

The Republican House members, finally getting the reigns of power were not going to give up the ability to rape future citizens through deficit spending. They wanted to be able to pay off their cronies, like the Democrats do, and thus they conspired with the Democrats to stop it.

History is not your friend.

It’s funny to see astonerii telling how he hates all Mormons and pumping up Gingrich while he conveniently forgets that Gingrich has had three times as many wives as Mitt Romney.

Alberta_Patriot on March 4, 2013 at 9:59 PM

While blinded with rampant RDS – StonerII also conveniently forgets how serial RINO Gingrich supports healthcare mandates, amnesty, endorsed liberal Dede Scozzafava over Conservative Doug Hoffman in NY23 as well as a litany of progressive causes after resigning in shame as SOTH. Then good old Newton Leroy after giving up all that power in order to avoid prison had no choice but to go make a forture off of FreddieMac.

Maybe we can support a REAL conservative in 2016.

DannoJyd on March 5, 2013 at 1:51 AM

Like who? I can’t think of any.

Romney spent more time and money destroying Gingrich in the primary, while surrendering to the REAL enemy, Barack Obama in the Presidential race.

And let me remind everyone, that the Hot Air staff was in the tank for Romney. Next time guys, back a winning Conservative, not a RINO wuss!

Remind me again, you were supporting the gay-marrying, baby-killing, military-backstabbing Gary Johnson, were you not?

Alberta_Patriot on March 5, 2013 at 1:59 AM

Take it up with the self proclaimed Mormon-hater who’s ____ing on Andrew Breitbarts grave for the sin of insufficient conservatism.

Alberta_Patriot on March 5, 2013 at 1:58 AM

You are quite the hate filled individual. Just look at all that projection.

Take it up with the self proclaimed Mormon-hater who’s ____ing on Andrew Breitbarts grave for the sin of insufficient conservatism.

Alberta_Patriot on March 5, 2013 at 1:58 AM

No, aiding and abetting the enemy. Being the man to let the barbarians in the gate. The man who pulled the Trojan horse through the city walls.
INFAMY for him.

SOME conservative causes, maybe. Others, like oh I don’t know… traditional families maybe? has shown absolutely no care or concern for. Gingrich has destroyed at least two traditional families that we know of.

Alberta_Patriot on March 4, 2013 at 9:59 PM

Gingrich was preyed upon by one of his teachers, his first wife. He has issues there.

Maybe we can support a REAL conservative in 2016.

DannoJyd on March 5, 2013 at 1:51 AM

Remind me again, you were supporting the gay-marrying, baby-killing, military-backstabbing Gary Johnson, were you not?