Dr. Ben Carson: Your right to own a semiautomatic should depend on where you live

posted at 3:21 pm on March 4, 2013 by Allahpundit

Via the Right Scoop and Mediaite, a point of divergence from conservative orthodoxy by CPAC’s newest scheduled speaker. The urban/rural distinction was actually a key part of Breyer’s dissent in the Heller case five years ago that established an individual right to bear arms under the Second Amendment:

[H]andguns are not only popular tools for crime, but popular objects of it as well: the FBI received on average over 274,000 reports of stolen guns for each year between 1985 and 1994, and almost 60% of stolen guns are handguns… Department of Justice studies have concluded that stolen handguns in particular are an important source of weapons for both adult and juvenile offenders. Ibid.

Statistics further suggest that urban areas, such as the District, have different experiences with gun-related death, injury, and crime, than do less densely populated rural areas. A disproportionate amount of violent and property crimes occur in urban areas, and urban criminals are more likely than other offenders to use a firearm during the commission of a violent crime… Homicide appears to be a much greater issue in urban areas; from 1985 to 1993, for example, “half of all homicides occurred in 63 cities with 16% of the nation’s population.”… One study concluded that although the overall rate of gun death between 1989 and 1999 was roughly the same in urban than rural areas, the urban homicide rate was three times as high; even after adjusting for other variables, it was still twice as high… And a study of firearm injuries to children and adolescents in Pennsylvania between 1987 and 2000 showed an injury rate in urban counties 10 times higher than in nonurban counties…

Finally, the linkage of handguns to firearms deaths and injuries appears to be much stronger in urban than in rural areas. “[S]tudies to date generally support the hypothesis that the greater number of rural gun deaths are from rifles or shotguns, whereas the greater number of urban gun deaths are from handguns.”… And the Pennsylvania study reached a similar conclusion with respect to firearm injuries—they are much more likely to be caused by handguns in urban areas than in rural areas.

Citations omitted. I’m a bit surprised that Democrats haven’t made more of urban/rural logic on guns, punctuated by the federalist approach that Carson endorses here. Obama and Biden pay lip service to it, periodically reassuring rural gun owners that no one wants to take away their hunting rifle or shotgun, but that argument’s hard to swallow when they’re pushing blanket bans on certain weapons nationwide from the seat of power in D.C. The smarter approach would be for O to declare that he doesn’t believe in a one-size-fits-all solution on guns and then call on Democrats to agitate for bans at the city and state level. That would kill some of the conservative pushback to gun control — most red-staters would have little to fear — while letting city dwellers live out their fondest confiscatory fantasies. There would be limits, obviously; the point of the Heller decision is that not even cities can ban handguns outright. But there are still a lot of blanks in Heller that will be filled in by federal courts over the next decade or two in terms of which weapons, precisely, can be regulated. Liberal energy would be better spent convincing cities to limit permissible handguns to revolvers than trying to put a dent in the country’s inventory of hundreds of thousands of AR-15s. After all, we’re already past the point of anyone besides Piers Morgan seriously believing that a new assault-weapons ban will prevent mass shootings. If you’re inclined to grab guns capable of doing lots of damage, you should be focused on semiautomatics generally rather than on scary-looking rifles that resemble M-16s. And the only way you’ll make a dent there is by stepping back from your national ambitions and respecting urban/rural differences on this subject.


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All Rs are fools.

Lookie here, the latest one who lost his brain, no not a R.

Schadenfreude on March 4, 2013 at 3:22 PM

The more you know, the more they blow.
NEXT!

RovesChins on March 4, 2013 at 3:22 PM

2016

can_con on March 4, 2013 at 3:23 PM

Really shot himself in the foot there. Pun very much intended.

CurtZHP on March 4, 2013 at 3:23 PM

Sorry that was meant to be 2016

can_con on March 4, 2013 at 3:23 PM

Yes, of course, the rights of Americans are geographical!

I feel so stupid.

It’s in the Constitution, right?

OhEssYouCowboys on March 4, 2013 at 3:24 PM

phased in confiscation.

tommyboy on March 4, 2013 at 3:24 PM

Next.

Kataklysmic on March 4, 2013 at 3:26 PM

1) So much for Carson in 2016; and
2) I agree completely; let’s also restrict certain people’s right to speech based on where they live, their 4th amendment rights, and the right to trial by jury, on the same basis.

What happens to people when they become candidates?!?

JFKY on March 4, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Well, let’s look at this in a + manner, shall we?

We can start culling the GOP herd, really fast and really soon and really hard.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 4, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Dr. Ben Carson: Your right to own a semiautomatic Constitutional Rights should depend on where you live

VorDaj on March 4, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Constitutional rights are non-negotiable and liberals have proven their lust for one size fits all policy.

Besides, urban liberals really just want to disarm the rest of us.

Daemonocracy on March 4, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Dr. Ben Carson: Your right to own a semiautomatic should depend on where you live

Uh no, no it should not.

Sacramento on March 4, 2013 at 3:26 PM

The more you know, the more they blow.
NEXT!

RovesChins on March 4, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Eh, that’s why I like to wait and see how the “new faces” of the day perform before passing judgment. It’s why I haven’t joined in the calls of “Cruz for president!” Remember how great Christie looked in the first six months after he was elected?

Very disappointing to hear this from Carson but I was never emotionally invested in him to begin with.

Doomberg on March 4, 2013 at 3:27 PM

i know this is o/t, but just too funny…for those of you in twitterdom MM launched a new hashtag

#justsaynotoJebBush2016

r keller on March 4, 2013 at 3:27 PM

If they ban guns in the cities then the lawful black folks won’t be able to defend themselves from the gangbangers who attack them the most.

Urban gun bans are racist!!

HotAirian on March 4, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Jackalope…gosh why are all Republicans so freaking stupid?

PierreLegrand on March 4, 2013 at 3:28 PM

The next GOP brainchild will tell us that:

The right to worship is geographical, too!

I can’t wait!

Doin’ The Snoopy Dance

OhEssYouCowboys on March 4, 2013 at 3:29 PM

a point of divergence from conservative orthodoxy by CPAC’s newest scheduled speaker

A point of divergence from conservative orthodoxy?

No this is not what it is. It is a point of convergence with fascist policy.

VorDaj on March 4, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Sure. Then we can have another liberal jump up and blame another state for their high homicide rates.

ButterflyDragon on March 4, 2013 at 3:29 PM

For dumbasses in the R party…folks in urban area’s deserve weapons to protect themselve. The police sure aren’t obligated to protect you aside from cleaning up the mess and catching the guy who murdered you.

PierreLegrand on March 4, 2013 at 3:30 PM

Translation: Guns don’t kill people, cities kill people.

NickelAndDime on March 4, 2013 at 3:30 PM

Gosh, Dr. Carson, why did you have to make that statement? I had such hope for someone that might help us but the more you speak, the more disappointed I am in you.
L

letget on March 4, 2013 at 3:30 PM

FAIL

MoreLiberty on March 4, 2013 at 3:31 PM

I respect Dr. Carson, but I couldn’t disagree with him more on this. We’re not talking about some federal subsidy. This is the Constitution. Rural and urban residents should not be treated differently.

Doughboy on March 4, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Get the feeling that Allahpundint thinks the 2nd amendment protects the right to hunt.

PierreLegrand on March 4, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Dr. Ben Carson: Your right to own a semiautomatic should depend on where you live

That’s the Second Amendment.

The Fifteenth Amendment would obviously be applied the same way.

Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

The right of blacks to vote should depend on where they live?

sharrukin on March 4, 2013 at 3:31 PM

punctuated by the federalist approach that Carson endorses here

You can put lipstick on a pig but it’s still a pig.

VorDaj on March 4, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Finally, the linkage of handguns to firearms deaths and injuries appears to be much stronger in urban than in rural areas. “[S]tudies to date generally support the hypothesis that the greater number of rural gun deaths are from rifles or shotguns, whereas the greater number of urban gun deaths are from handguns.”… And the Pennsylvania study reached a similar conclusion with respect to firearm injuries—they are much more likely to be caused by handguns in urban areas than in rural areas.

Let’s cut to the chase – what they’re reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally saying is that blacks should have no Second Amendment right.

Right?

RIGHT?

OhEssYouCowboys on March 4, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Funny, I didn’t see that written in the second amendment.

stenwin77 on March 4, 2013 at 3:33 PM

And of course, like clockwork, his name is now mud. What a dirty RINO. /

changer1701 on March 4, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Translation: Guns don’t kill people, cities blacks kill people.

NickelAndDime on March 4, 2013 at 3:30 PM

OhEssYouCowboys on March 4, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Carson very well might self destruct on specific policy the way Herman Caine did. We’re so starved for black conservatives who can articulate the ideology effectively that we end up jumping on certain bandwagons too soon.

Daemonocracy on March 4, 2013 at 3:35 PM

First obamacare introduces the idea of healthcare rights depnding on age (I.e. death panels). Now the big idea is rights to own a gun as a function of where u live? I long for the good ole’ days when rights were simply a function of your individuality. I guess that was just too easy.

beselfish on March 4, 2013 at 3:35 PM

So, Rosa Parks SHOULD have to sit at the back of the bus, depending on where she lives. Ok! Have fun, CPAC.

joejm65 on March 4, 2013 at 3:35 PM

Dr. Ben Carson: Your right to own a semiautomatic should depend on where you live

That’s the Second Amendment.

The Fifteenth Amendment would obviously be applied the same way.

Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

The right of blacks to vote should depend on where they live?

sharrukin on March 4, 2013 at 3:31 PM

If he is to be logically consistent he would have to answer yes, but then I don’t think this man is so bright after all.

VorDaj on March 4, 2013 at 3:35 PM

And of course, like clockwork, his name is now mud. What a dirty RINO. /

changer1701 on March 4, 2013 at 3:33 PM

TODAY it is, he just said your constitutional rights depend on where you live in the US…Bloomberg has fewer RIGHTS than I do.

You think that is smart politics and a just reading of the US Constitution?

JFKY on March 4, 2013 at 3:35 PM

I’m not counting him out yet. With a bit of education maybe he can ‘evolve’.

jawkneemusic on March 4, 2013 at 3:36 PM

The land is truly full of fools, from the president on down.

She deserves to go under, much faster than Rome.

Schadenfreude on March 4, 2013 at 3:36 PM

Seems to me an urban environment where people are packed together like cockroaches is exactly the type of place where you’d want to ensure the right to defend yourself.

clearbluesky on March 4, 2013 at 3:36 PM

Yes, of course, the rights of Americans are geographical!

I feel so stupid.

It’s in the Constitution, right?

OhEssYouCowboys on March 4, 2013 at 3:24 PM

let’s also restrict certain people’s right to speech based on where they live, their 4th amendment rights, and the right to trial by jury, on the same basis.

JFKY on March 4, 2013 at 3:26 PM

I have a lot of respect for Dr. Carson, but for him to suggest that our Constitutional rights are dependent upon geography is a deal-breaker for me to consider him as a potential candidate.

ITguy on March 4, 2013 at 3:36 PM

The takeaway from that study seems to be we should ban cities as a clear and present danger to life.

irongrampa on March 4, 2013 at 3:37 PM

I think this man was educated way beyond his intelligence.

VorDaj on March 4, 2013 at 3:37 PM

“Your right to own a semi-automatic should depend on where you live.”

Let me finish that for you…

If you live in the United States, then you have that right. If you live in a country without the 2nd amendment or similar provision, then you don’t.

Wasn’t that easy?

Russ in OR on March 4, 2013 at 3:38 PM

With fame comes exposure.

Too bad Obama was never exposed, until now.

Schadenfreude on March 4, 2013 at 3:38 PM

And, ya know, urban schools provide a far worse education than suburban or rural schools, sooooooooooooooooooooooo:

The urban youth should be prohibited from attending school.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 4, 2013 at 3:38 PM

His point about firearms is rather juvenile and not thought out.

Dusty on March 4, 2013 at 3:38 PM

I knew it was matter of time before HA posters turned on Carson

There has never been one conservative person that most of the posters here don’t eventually despise

N Korea might work out better for y’all:)

Redford on March 4, 2013 at 3:38 PM

And of course, like clockwork, his name is now mud. What a dirty RINO. /
changer1701 on March 4, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Oh that is right we are supposed to simply accept this sort of nonsense. Let’s be inclusive…eh? I say why not simply vote for a Democrat in the first place and get to utopia right off the bat? This constant drip drip drip of accepting each of these idiots small steps towards fascism is annoying…let’s just vote Democrat!

PierreLegrand on March 4, 2013 at 3:39 PM

He’s right. If you live in America, you should have a right to own them. If you don’t, then who cares?

RSbrewer on March 4, 2013 at 3:39 PM

It does depend on where you live. If you live in the USA, you have a right to own a semi-automatic weapon, among other types of weapons.

The Rogue Tomato on March 4, 2013 at 3:39 PM

He’s right. If you live in America, you should have a right to own them. If you don’t, then who cares?

RSbrewer on March 4, 2013 at 3:39 PM

GMTA

The Rogue Tomato on March 4, 2013 at 3:40 PM

I would much prefer criminals in urban areas to use semi-automatic weapons as opposed to firing shotgun shells that will have more likelihood of collateral damage.

can_con on March 4, 2013 at 3:40 PM

The doc should zip it while he is ahead.

texasgoat on March 4, 2013 at 3:40 PM

I have a lot of respect for Dr. Carson, but for him to suggest that our Constitutional rights are dependent upon geography is a deal-breaker for me to consider him as a potential candidate.

ITguy on March 4, 2013 at 3:36 PM

My respect for him, especially as an intellect, has gone from high to non-existent. He may be a genius at surgery, although I am begging to wonder, but outside of that, certainly when it comes to the United States Constitution and logical thinking, he seems to be an ignoramus.

VorDaj on March 4, 2013 at 3:41 PM

If he is to be logically consistent he would have to answer yes, but then I don’t think this man is so bright after all.

VorDaj on March 4, 2013 at 3:35 PM

I agree, but we keep doing this.

General Petreaus.
Collin Powell.
Codi Rice.
Herman Cain.

I wonder who will be next months rising star?

sharrukin on March 4, 2013 at 3:41 PM

I’m not counting him out yet. With a bit of education maybe he can ‘evolve’.

jawkneemusic on March 4, 2013 at 3:36 PM

Are you serious? Look Cain was a disaster, in my book, because fundamentally he wasn’t serious about the job of being POTUS. The whole I don’t have a National Security Philosophy/I’m going to “wing” the Idea of the Right of Return. These were simple, fundamentals that you need to have considered before you even run…

So now we have another candidate who is equally unserious. You can debate about the scope of the 2nd Amendment and what might be “compelling state interests” and Reasonable Time, Place and Manner Restrictions on the right to keep and bear (just like we debate limits of the 1st), HOWEVER you really haven’t thought thru the issue if you think that you can limit someone’s constitutional rights based on their location!? I mean this is fairly simple stuff…how much or how fast you may depreciate an asset is a technical question for which many, reasonable, answers are possible, but the fact that the US Constitution applies to all citizens, equally irrespective of location, in the US, really isn’t that sort of question or issue.

JFKY on March 4, 2013 at 3:42 PM

The doc should zip it while he is ahead.

texasgoat on March 4, 2013 at 3:40 PM

That horse has left the barn and is now in the next country, not next county, next country.

VorDaj on March 4, 2013 at 3:43 PM

I knew it was matter of time before HA posters turned on Carson

There has never been one conservative person that most of the posters here don’t eventually despise

N Korea might work out better for y’all:)

Redford on March 4, 2013 at 3:38 PM

‘scuse me, Robert, but a conservative would never have suggested such a thing. A curtailment of a basic constitutional right based on where you live? That might fly in N. Korea, but not here.

CurtZHP on March 4, 2013 at 3:43 PM

And will we need “checkpoints” in those areas to keep owners of semi auto’s out?

d1carter on March 4, 2013 at 3:45 PM

I knew it was matter of time before HA posters turned on Carson

There has never been one conservative person that most of the posters here don’t eventually despise

N Korea might work out better for y’all:)

Redford on March 4, 2013 at 3:38 PM

And I knew that it was just a matter of time before an HA poster ate every bit of vomit that a CPAC speaker just spewed onto the floor.

Have a nice meal, and I hope that you like the chunks.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 4, 2013 at 3:45 PM

Why are we talking about this guy like he’s a serious candidate anyway? Has he seriouly announced such intentions?

CurtZHP on March 4, 2013 at 3:45 PM

Try this:

You Have No Right To Semi-Automatic Weapons Free-Spech In Large Cities

How does that sound?

Galt2009 on March 4, 2013 at 3:45 PM

Please continue to salivate over every melanine-rich person who strays off liberal plantation. All of them will disappoint you. Colin Powell, Condi Rice, Herman Cain, and even fearless Col. Allen West are blacks first, and Republicans second. Never forget it.

Archivarix on March 4, 2013 at 3:46 PM

There has never been one conservative person that most of the posters here don’t eventually despise

N Korea might work out better for y’all:)

Redford on March 4, 2013 at 3:38 PM

How so, Redford…oh I see you are saying North Korea hates Conservatives? OR, are you saying we should get in lock-step with the New Dear Leader?

I’m confused….

JFKY on March 4, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Your right for free speech is driven by locality.

Schadenfreude on March 4, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Local governments should be able to regulate the required level of safeguarding of the arms, but not their ownership itself. Of course, they shouldn’t be able to make the requirements so heavy they’re virtually banned. The federal government could perhaps define a few levels of security, and local governments can adopt the appropriate one.

As for his talk of God talking to him through his feelings… I hope it’s all some big metaphor.

ebrawer on March 4, 2013 at 3:46 PM

I agree, but we keep doing this.

General Petreaus.
Collin Powell.
Codi Rice.
Herman Cain.

I wonder who will be next months rising star?

sharrukin on March 4, 2013 at 3:41 PM

I fell for Cain, and still like him, but the other 3 have been on my hit list for many years.

VorDaj on March 4, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Galt2009 on March 4, 2013 at 3:45 PM

Geez, talk about our timing :)

Schadenfreude on March 4, 2013 at 3:47 PM

Oh that is right we are supposed to simply accept this sort of nonsense. Let’s be inclusive…eh? I say why not simply vote for a Democrat in the first place and get to utopia right off the bat? This constant drip drip drip of accepting each of these idiots small steps towards fascism is annoying…let’s just vote Democrat!

PierreLegrand on March 4, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Right, because him preferring not to have semi-autos in high crime urban areas basically makes him a Dem? Why does that cancel out everything else?

changer1701 on March 4, 2013 at 3:47 PM

I agree, but we keep doing this.

General Petreaus.
Collin Powell.
Codi Rice.
Herman Cain.

I wonder who will be next months rising star?

sharrukin on March 4, 2013 at 3:41 PM

I would add Marco Orwell Rubio, the Borker, to that list.

VorDaj on March 4, 2013 at 3:48 PM

I think trial by jury of peers should be practised in some locations and not others.

tom daschle concerned on March 4, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Maybe Bibles should be confiscated from certain, acceptable geographical areas of our great “Democracy.”

OhEssYouCowboys on March 4, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Shall.

Not.

Be.

Infringed.

How ’bout we try that out?

Huh? Whadaya say, there!

catmman on March 4, 2013 at 3:49 PM

You hear liberals claim all the time that cities with gun control have high rates of gun violence because guns are imported from other areas with lax gun control laws. So liberals have already rejected the idea of accepting regional differences.

And why aren’t we talking about letting geography determine abortion rights? Are Chicago and NYC libs willing to allow red states to ban abortion? Don’t think so.

The idea that constitutional rights aren’t universal is just asinine.

Mark1971 on March 4, 2013 at 3:49 PM

I fell for Cain, and still like him, but the other 3 have been on my hit list for many years.

VorDaj on March 4, 2013 at 3:46 PM

I never liked any of them, or Paul Ryan. I don’t like bandwagons until I know where they are going and all too often it isn’t anyplace you would want to be.

sharrukin on March 4, 2013 at 3:49 PM

The more you know, the more they blow.
NEXT!

RovesChins on March 4, 2013 at 3:22 PM

.
It can be phrased even more succinctly …

If the GOPe-media lets someone into the spotlight?

They have already been ‘vetted’ to insure they toe the GOPe line:

“EVERYTHING is negotiable.”

PolAgnostic on March 4, 2013 at 3:49 PM

Please continue to salivate over every melanine-rich person who strays off liberal plantation. All of them will disappoint you. Colin Powell, Condi Rice, Herman Cain, and even fearless Col. Allen West are blacks first, and Republicans second. Never forget it.

Archivarix on March 4, 2013 at 3:46 PM

What does their skin color have to do with it?

changer1701 on March 4, 2013 at 3:49 PM

From the headlines

Thomas Sowell…if only he was 20 years younger, the perfect President.

right2bright on March 4, 2013 at 3:01 PM

Schadenfreude on March 4, 2013 at 3:50 PM

Get the feeling that Allahpundit thinks the 2nd amendment protects the right to hunt.

PierreLegrand on March 4, 2013 at 3:31 PM

The whole point of the Second Amendment is to protect us from a government that has turned on its own people. Why is that so un-PC to state?

slickwillie2001 on March 4, 2013 at 3:50 PM

I would add Marco Orwell Rubio, the Borker, to that list.

VorDaj on March 4, 2013 at 3:48 PM

And Christie and Ryan, and…

sharrukin on March 4, 2013 at 3:50 PM

Talk about shooting off one’s mouth.
Damn, you got any toes left Dr?
Rights, which are God given are conditional?

Did someone actually argue that this guy would be a good choice for the Republican 2016 ticket?

CAN WE PLEASE STOP THE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION?

astonerii on March 4, 2013 at 3:50 PM

And will we need “checkpoints” in those areas to keep owners of semi auto’s out?

d1carter on March 4, 2013 at 3:45 PM

No we will need a wall to keep them in…we could just build a nice wall around urban areas…I believe there are a number former East German Engineers and Russian engineers that can help with advice, plans, and construction tips…well also need guards, and guard dogs, and some mines and booby traps might be helpful, too. And drones, lotsa drones…and some MRAPS to cruise the hi ways surrounding the walls, and a brushed sand strip between the wall and the hiway…WOW this is getting complex, lucky we have those East Germans to help!

JFKY on March 4, 2013 at 3:50 PM

Since the sole reason to oppose Dr. Carson’s statement is based on constitutional grounds, why aren’t more conservatives actively pushing for the ability to purchase fully automatic weapons?

Why have we given up that right?

Hostile Gospel on March 4, 2013 at 3:50 PM

Dr. Ben Carson: Your right to own a semiautomatic Constitutional Rights should depend on where you live

VorDaj on March 4, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Good thing we heard that now before the hype continued.

Enjoy CPAC Dr. Carson.

The US Constitution is not negotiable.

workingclass artist on March 4, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Seems to me an urban environment where people are packed together like cockroaches is exactly the type of place where you’d want to ensure the right to defend yourself.

clearbluesky on March 4, 2013 at 3:36 PM

Exactly. Is it possible that population density is a factor in this equation, Dr. Carson?

I live in a rural area and I’m anticipating a new trend if this is adopted: mass migration to designated rural areas by those who wish to own guns.

jix on March 4, 2013 at 3:51 PM

I believe that the 13th Amendment should depend on location as well.

tom daschle concerned on March 4, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Right, because him preferring not to have semi-autos in high crime urban areas basically makes him a Dem? Why does that cancel out everything else?

changer1701 on March 4, 2013 at 3:47 PM

Because constitutional rights aren’t optional.

sharrukin on March 4, 2013 at 3:51 PM

What does their skin color have to do with it?

changer1701 on March 4, 2013 at 3:49 PM

Because, many people over compensate for fear of being labeled racists and the moment a person of darker complexion says something approaching sanity, they immediate start talking about how great a choice for president they would be! It is not their color, but the actions of those who grade them based on their color.

astonerii on March 4, 2013 at 3:52 PM

Since the sole reason to oppose Dr. Carson’s statement is based on constitutional grounds, why aren’t more conservatives actively pushing for the ability to purchase fully automatic weapons?

Why have we given up that right?

Hostile Gospel on March 4, 2013 at 3:50 PM

You can buy and own fully automatic weapons.

tom daschle concerned on March 4, 2013 at 3:52 PM

Well, better to learn earlier rather than later that newest bandwagon candidate may turn out to be not quite the thing.

Missy on March 4, 2013 at 3:52 PM

I knew it was matter of time before HA posters turned on Carson
There has never been one conservative person that most of the posters here don’t eventually despise
N Korea might work out better for y’all:)
Redford on March 4, 2013 at 3:38 PM

Jeb is that you? Seriously though, how about Perry. I don’t get the feeling that he is despised here by most. There may be some arguments about electability but there are a lot of conservatives that most commenters appreciate here.

can_con on March 4, 2013 at 3:52 PM

It really does make you wonder if there’s isn’t some unknown, Stepford Wives-type place where fomerly decent conservatives suddenly throw it all away and embrace their inner Libtard…

catmman on March 4, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Ben Carson = Herman Cain without the chicks.

Mark1971 on March 4, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Doc, you should have quit while you were ahead.

Sheesh.

kingsjester on March 4, 2013 at 3:53 PM

I agree, but we keep doing this.

General Petreaus.
Collin Powell.
Codi Rice.
Herman Cain.

I wonder who will be next months rising star?

sharrukin on March 4, 2013 at 3:41 PM

This is what frustrates me, too. A month ago, we didn’t even know this guy existed, and because he slapped barack-the-squatter in the face ( in a very controlled environment), he’s the new savior of the GOP. I don’t think so.

MustLoveBlogs on March 4, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Maybe Bibles should be confiscated from certain, acceptable geographical areas of our great “Democracy.”

OhEssYouCowboys on March 4, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Sure…why not?

Maybe freedom of association should be restricted to certain geographical areas as well.

workingclass artist on March 4, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Dr. Ben Carson: Your right to own a semiautomatic should depend on where you live

This is not strike one for Dr. Carson, it’s “You’re Out”…
Some people just can’t seem to help themselves, they just have to be “Do Gooder’s“. Yes, my litmus test is your position on the 2nd amendment.

SWalker on March 4, 2013 at 3:53 PM

JFKY on March 4, 2013 at 3:50 PM

LOL, good thing Big Sis just bought a bunch of MRAP’s…

d1carter on March 4, 2013 at 3:54 PM

catmman on March 4, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Oh, very funny; and very apt!

MustLoveBlogs on March 4, 2013 at 3:54 PM

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