Joe Manchin doesn’t want the press asking about any of that gun stuff

posted at 6:31 pm on March 3, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

A relatively quick hit for Sunday evening comes to us from West Virginia. As we’ve covered on a number of occasions, formerly staunch Second Amendment advocate Senator Joe Manchin has apparently experienced some sort of “revelation” after the Newtown shootings, and has been in back room talks regarding at least some forms of new gun control legislation on the federal level. This has attracted an understandable amount of controversy with the generally conservative residents of his state and a matching amount of attention from the media. But for some reason, during a recent interview with the local paper, the topic never even came up.

Editor’s note: This question and answer session was permitted under the condition that The Journal would not ask questions regarding gun control legislation or the Second Amendment, as requested by the senator’s staff.

I only caught wind of this story when I saw it at Outside the Beltway. Doug Mataconis wasn’t impressed with the Senator’s tactics regarding media management.

The stipulation, though, strikes me as problematic. The few people who have commented on the article so far seem to be reacting quite negatively to it. I can understand why the Senator would want to avoid questions about gun control, though. He’s a pro-gun Senator from a pro-gun state who is part of a party that is pushing a gun control agenda. He is also rumored to be part of a bipartisan group of Senators talking behind the scenes about a compromise on universal background checks. He doesn’t want to be put on the spot. It’s not very honorable to put a condition like this on an interview, but it is understandable. What I don’t understand is why the newspaper would agree to these terms.

I’m a bit curious about that myself, but it’s not without precedent. When the Senator is ready to talk – about anything – that’s news for the local media market. If the choice is between getting the interview with the editorial board and having a topic put off limits or not getting the interview at all, there are times when they’ll agree to the restriction. But given what a hot topic this is across the country, and particularly in West Virginia, the paper doesn’t serve their subscribers very well by doing this. And the Senator himself isn’t doing any favors to his constituents by not addressing their valid concerns on a pertinent issue of the day.

The cone of silence routine generally doesn’t work very well for elected officials, but in Manchin’s case it might last a bit longer than it would for others. He first took office via a special election in 2010 and then was elected to a full term just last year. He’s not going to have to stand against the wheel again until 2018, so he may feel he’s got plenty of time to either clean this up or hope that the voters have short memories. I wouldn’t bet on the latter, though.


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The word “gutless” comes to mind. Or is Joey just being “flexible”?

GarandFan on March 3, 2013 at 6:35 PM

…Joe has no ba11s or bullets!

KOOLAID2 on March 3, 2013 at 6:36 PM

Editor’s note: This question and answer session was permitted under the condition that The Journal would not ask questions regarding gun control legislation or the Second Amendment, as requested by the senator’s staff.

Tilt. Game over.

petefrt on March 3, 2013 at 6:40 PM

Editor’s note: This question and answer session was permitted under the condition that The Journal would not ask questions regarding gun control legislation or the Second Amendment, as requested by the senator’s staff

…so they didn’t want to be journalists… just another mouthpiece

KOOLAID2 on March 3, 2013 at 6:44 PM

That’s what happens when you believe your Democrat is different.

HitNRun on March 3, 2013 at 6:47 PM

He’s a pro-gun Senator from a pro-gun state who is part of a party that is pushing a gun control agenda.

.
The folks I have known from West Virginia have tended to be very defensive about the “ignorant hillbilly” stereotype …

… unfortunately – they’ve proven the stereotype to be true by believing there is a Democrat who puts the people he represents before party loyalty.

Let.It.Burn

PolAgnostic on March 3, 2013 at 6:50 PM

When it comes time to vote on the Democrats’ liberty ending legislation du jour, Manchin will be Johnny-on-spot.

Just like all the other poseur moderate Democrats.

Curtiss on March 3, 2013 at 6:51 PM

Let’s help them:
Journal News: Senator, what is your positon regarding the 2nd Amendment?
Sen. Manchin:
Journal News: So, what classes of firearms would you prohibit, and why?
Sen. Manchin:
Journal News: Say that again?
Sen. Manchin:
Journal News: So you feel that restricting these kinds of arms will prevent more criminal activity?
Sen. Manchin:
Journal News: Can you provide us any facts to back up that assertion?
Sen. Manchin:
Journal News: What about the Veterans’ Heritage Firearms Act, which you co-sponsored? Is there anything in that which you regret?
Sen. Manchin:
Journal News: Are there others in your party who think as you do about this need to limit 2nd Amendment rights?
Sen. Manchin:
Journal News: Thank you, Senator, for your open and honest thoughts on these matters.

unclesmrgol on March 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM

FIRED, I say.

WV you better fire this idiot!

TX-96 on March 3, 2013 at 6:54 PM

Weasel is weasel

RAGIN CAJUN on March 3, 2013 at 6:57 PM

Just goes to show you that Manchin’s answer really is, “I’ll vote for the indonesian to take your guns”

wildcat72 on March 3, 2013 at 7:00 PM

Editor’s note: This question and answer session was permitted under the condition that The Journal would not ask questions regarding gun control legislation or the Second Amendment, as requested by the senator’s staff.

Epic FAIL… and “the Press” wonders why they are held in low/no regard…

Khun Joe on March 3, 2013 at 7:04 PM

What a responsible newspaper would have done is refuse that condition, and if the Senator would not sit for the interview, run a front-page story on how the people’s Senator would not do an interview that included 2A questions. Make it a very in-depth story about Manchin’s gun-rights stances in the past, and include all his public remarks since Sandy Hook, as well as the press reports of a back-room bargain. Then reiterate that the Senator now flatly refuses to discuss this matter in a public forum. That is what ACTUAL JOURNALISTS might do. Still, I suppose we have to give the paper some measure of credit for the “Editor’s Note.” Most media would just skip it, nothing to see here…

unclejack on March 3, 2013 at 7:07 PM

There is no “press”, there’s just a large gaggle of wormy little lap dogs willing to compromise their entire value system just to be in the presence of these sorry politicians.

rplat on March 3, 2013 at 7:12 PM

What a responsible newspaper would have done is refuse that condition, and if the Senator would not sit for the interview, run a front-page story on how the people’s Senator would not do an interview that included 2A questions. Make it a very in-depth story about Manchin’s gun-rights stances in the past, and include all his public remarks since Sandy Hook, as well as the press reports of a back-room bargain. Then reiterate that the Senator now flatly refuses to discuss this matter in a public forum. That is what ACTUAL JOURNALISTS might do. Still, I suppose we have to give the paper some measure of credit for the “Editor’s Note.” Most media would just skip it, nothing to see here…

unclejack on March 3, 2013 at 7:07 PM

…wonder what the paper’s web site is?…POS.com?

KOOLAID2 on March 3, 2013 at 7:13 PM

The word “gutless” comes to mind. Or is Joey just being “flexible”?

GarandFan on March 3, 2013 at 6:35 PM

The words “leftist commie puke” also come to mind.

bgibbs1000 on March 3, 2013 at 7:22 PM

That’s what happens when you believe your Democrat is different.

HitNRun on March 3, 2013 at 6:47 PM

Bingo

jnelchef on March 3, 2013 at 7:24 PM

unclesmrgol on March 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM

Well done. He struck me as kind of evasive in his answers.

arnold ziffel on March 3, 2013 at 7:26 PM

He’s a pro-gun Senator from a pro-gun state who is part of a party that is pushing a gun control agenda. He is also rumored to be part of a bipartisan group of Senators talking behind the scenes about a compromise on universal background checks.

Party and privilege before principle, promises and constituents’ wishes.

He hardly a pro-gun Senator. He’s a Dem who’s stuck in a pro-gun state. Joe Manchin is the Bart Stupak of 2nd Amendment issues.

Dusty on March 3, 2013 at 7:28 PM

He bought the media hype that this issue was a real winner for the dems.Then he found out otherwise.Now he has to put his game face on,juke for awhile and see what’s in it for him for his vote.If he can bring home enough bacon he might be forgiven by enough people when he votes for it.

docflash on March 3, 2013 at 7:43 PM

The A-holes went silent on Obamacare just before it was passed with bribes in a back room. This is beginning to smell very badly.

DDay on March 3, 2013 at 7:53 PM

…wonder what the paper’s web site is?…POS.com?

KOOLAID2 on March 3, 2013 at 7:13 PM

Hold that thought and click through the link Jazz provides. Notice how prominently the disclaimer is displayed at the top of the page where the interview is printed.

Then scroll down to the comments and notice what the liberals are saying about that prominent display.

I suspect the newspaper has made its point at the same time as providing its readers needed information concerning his views on the sequestration.

Of course, the newspaper could have done a better job of providing background on the sequestration (aka Budget Control Act of 2011), including the fact that Senator Manchin voted for it.

unclesmrgol on March 3, 2013 at 7:55 PM

all leftists know that ‘loose lips sink ships’. Ds are very disciplined and hold their cards very close…they know that’s how they win.

r keller on March 3, 2013 at 7:57 PM

The press are really cheap wh*res.

SouthernGent on March 3, 2013 at 8:00 PM

I can understand why the Senator would want to avoid questions about gun control, though. He’s a pro-gun Senator from a pro-gun state who is part of a party that is pushing a gun control agenda. He is also rumored to be part of a bipartisan group of Senators talking behind the scenes about a compromise on universal background checks. He doesn’t want to be put on the spot. It’s not very honorable to put a condition like this on an interview, but it is understandable. What I don’t understand is why the newspaper would agree to these terms.

Of course, until this came up, the number of journalists who wanted to interview him about anything was exactly…zero.

Until he had an “epiphany” about gun control, Manchin was a nobody where the press was concerned. A supposed Blue Dog Dem from a very Red state; in DC insider terms, “what do we need him for?”

He briefly became the Flavor Of The Week when he suddenly decided to “get flexible” about the Second Amendment. But in the process, he found out that getting “in with the in crowd” inside the Beltway translated to “next election, you’re toast” back home in WV.

Now he’s stuck between a rock and a hard place. I’m not surprised he doesn’t want to talk about it. Or that the media is trying to help him CHA.

The people of WV need to remember this. The next time he comes to them demanding “six more years”.

clear ether

eon

eon on March 3, 2013 at 8:12 PM

Party and privilege before principle, promises and constituents’ wishes.

Dusty on March 3, 2013 at 7:28 PM

Yep. Leftist ideology uber alles

PatriotGal2257 on March 3, 2013 at 8:13 PM

It’s not very honorable to put a condition like this on an interview, but it is understandable. What I don’t understand is why the newspaper would agree to these terms.

I’m a bit curious about that myself, but it’s not without precedent. .

There is a simple explanation — Manchin is a democrat. The press are democrats, they will accept whatever conditions a democrat demands. It is an act of random journalism that they actually published the condition prominently. Had a republican demanded such a condition, you can bet the press would have made that the story and not even done the interview.

Good news is that the NRA does have a memory.

AZfederalist on March 3, 2013 at 8:13 PM

The Journal is a Conservative newspaper, owned by Odgen Publishing. The Nutting family, who owns Ogden Pubs, also owns the Pittsburgh Pirates and Seven Springs ski resort.

They should have refused Manchin’s conditions. Joe Flip-Flop being his usual self.

Philly on March 3, 2013 at 8:21 PM

Here’s the web site:

http://www.journal-news.net/

Philly on March 3, 2013 at 8:48 PM

So easy to mislead the voters, fire this tool next election .

losarkos on March 3, 2013 at 8:59 PM

Being a WV. transplant, having moved here in ’07. I’ve found out that the republican party is all but dead in this state. Our elected Repubs are all RINO’s. Since 1930 the Dem’s have had total control and kept the state in a race to the bottom with Miss. in every statistic.

Having said that, I can all but guarantee the hillbilly’s will vote for their “good ol’ boy Joe” in 6yrs. Having the 2nd worst education in the nation has always paid big dividends to the mis-informed WV. voters.
God help us, because the electorate won’t.

WV. Paul on March 3, 2013 at 10:36 PM

The word recall comes to mind.

Uniblogger on March 3, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Having said that, I can all but guarantee the hillbilly’s will vote for their “good ol’ boy Joe” in 6yrs. Having the 2nd worst education in the nation has always paid big dividends to the mis-informed WV. voters.
God help us, because the electorate won’t.

WV. Paul on March 3, 2013 at 10:36 PM

Both on the national stage, and here in Colorado; the Democrats are acting like they believe that because of either institutionalized vote fraud, or knowing of a “state of emergency” coming up, they believe that they don’t have to worry about the voters ever again. “The hillbilly’s” may not have to worry about voting him in for another 6 years. It may be done for them.

Subotai Bahadur on March 3, 2013 at 11:14 PM

…wonder what the paper’s web site is?…POS.com?

KOOLAID2 on March 3, 2013 at 7:13 PM

Hold that thought and click through the link Jazz provides. Notice how prominently the disclaimer is displayed at the top of the page where the interview is printed.

Then scroll down to the comments and notice what the liberals are saying about that prominent display.

I suspect the newspaper has made its point at the same time as providing its readers needed information concerning his views on the sequestration.

Of course, the newspaper could have done a better job of providing background on the sequestration (aka Budget Control Act of 2011), including the fact that Senator Manchin voted for it.

unclesmrgol on March 3, 2013 at 7:55 PM

I believe you’re right. It’s actually very Machiavellian of the newspaper to agree to the condition, then put the disclaimer that they had to agree to this condition at the very top of the story where it can’t be missed.

What good is it to successfully dodge embarrassing questions, if everybody in the world knows you’re dodging embarrassing questions?

There Goes The Neighborhood on March 3, 2013 at 11:58 PM

He is panning the sellout. just like coal, oil, and nuclear. He is just too stupid to know he is a pet.

pat on March 4, 2013 at 12:27 AM

Had the paper the courage,the top issue for the day (every morning) would have been why Joe Manchin is failing as a Senator because of his stonewalling on his support for gun control. He’ll come around when the votes are at risk. They might even get him to back off his complicit adventure with the confiscators in the White House and on the left everywhere–including the UN.

Don L on March 4, 2013 at 6:04 AM

Last I checked a Senator is elected by the people as their representative. He’s not a king or some type of noble. He’s a servant.

So Mr Manchin’s opinion as to how he will represent the people of his state, should never be “off limits”.

We call this type of tactic dishonest, evasive and disingenuous. It’s self-serving and more the product of someone who has something to hide than an honest representative.

I reserve equal, if not greater scorn for the Journal News. In letting the senator avoid one of our most important contemporary they’ve engaged in producing a propaganda piece, not journalism. If Mr. Manchin does not support the Second Amendment- what’s next on his list of freedoms he would like to remove from The Bill of Rights?

Marcus Traianus on March 4, 2013 at 7:29 AM

On The Press:

It’s mission…. is to stand guard over a nation’s liberties, not its shams and humbugs.

Mark Twain 1892

deimos on March 4, 2013 at 8:05 AM

I just took my NRA safety course yesterday. Over 3/4 of the participants were women. Not only did they show us how to safely operate a 12 gauge, they also showed us how to safely operate one of those EEEEVVVVIIIILLLL AR-15′s.

Good times. :)

J.H. on March 4, 2013 at 9:14 AM

He’s not going to have to stand against the wheel again until 2018, so he may feel he’s got plenty of time to either clean this up or hope that the voters have short memories. I wouldn’t bet on the latter, though.

Moot point. By 2018 this country will be unrecognizable.

bofh on March 4, 2013 at 9:21 AM

Gutless Journal editor – - you sent a reporter to an interview and agreed to not asking questions? Quit your job and join a PR firm. You’re not a journalist, you’re a political lackey.

DarthBrooks on March 4, 2013 at 10:30 AM

Not to be outdone by a Senator from WV, President Obama today instructed all media outlets to not ask him any questions.

BobMbx on March 4, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Gutless Journal editor – – you sent a reporter to an interview and agreed to not asking questions? Quit your job and join a PR firm. You’re not a journalist, you’re a political lackey.

DarthBrooks on March 4, 2013 at 10:30 AM

The journal is located where I live here in Martinsburg WV. The editor is new to the job. Less than 1 yr. and comes from N.Y. From the same paper that printed on it’s front page. The names and addresses of all Concealed Weapons permit holders. Nice to see that the editor doesn’t stray to far from his roots. Hope he’s got the guts to do the same here. I’m sure the hillbilly’s would give him a nice reception if he lives up to his libtard teachings.

There is only 3 things important to the hillbilly’s in WV. Church Guns and Alcohol. Mess with any of those 3 and they might get up and do something about it. Other than that this is a entitlement state thanks to over 80 years of Democrats in control.

WV. Paul on March 4, 2013 at 11:55 AM

Subotai Bahadur on March 3, 2013 at 11:14 PM

I see the same thing up here in Maine, even at the state rep level.

aceinstall on March 4, 2013 at 4:54 PM