House GOP ready to support clean CR for FY2013?

posted at 1:01 pm on March 2, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

In all of the hysteria over the sequester this week, almost all of it from the White House and amplified by the media until Arne Duncan blew up the strategy, we missed this interesting little tidbit on the long game.  The Hill reported on Thursday that House Republicans have begun to form a consensus that the sequester reductions will be as good as it gets in this budget year, and are ready to consolidate those gains in the final six months of the budget year:

Conservative House Republicans on Wednesday signaled support for their leadership’s plan to pass a six-month government-funding measure that would reflect the budget cuts from the sequester.

The stamp of approval — mixed with only tepid skepticism from a few members who have bucked Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) in the past —increases the likelihood a government shutdown will be avoided after March 27, when the current stopgap funding bill runs out.

There had been suggestions that the House should escalate the fight in the CR battle by either making more substantial cuts than the sequester imposed — such as those were — and defund ObamaCare, which would have stopped the budget process cold.  Instead, it looks as though conservatives are going to bide their time on other priorities, and declare victory on the sequester alone for FY2013:

“The fact is that if we get the CR at the post-sequester level that is a big win,” said Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), a conservative leader who recently stepped down as the head of the Republican Study Committee.

He and other conservatives said they could support the legislation even if does not defund “ObamaCare” or the requirement that insurance plans cover contraception.

“I support the approach,” RSC Chairman Steve Scalise (R-La.) said Tuesday.

“I think all or most conservatives will be on board with doing that,” said Rep. Raúl Labrador (R-Idaho), who is also looked at as a leader of the party’s right wing.

So what will they want out of the CR fight, other than the post-sequester status quo, which may be a tough hill to hold anyway?  Mitch McConnell identified the next goal in his reaction to the all-for-show meeting with Barack Obama yesterday:

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., vowed that he’d “not be part of any backroom deal” on the sequester and that he would “absolutely not agree to increase taxes.”

The next goal is normal-order budgeting, and an end to the fiscal cliffs created by Harry Reid’s no-budget strategy.  The House wants to push ahead soon on a new CR in order to force the Senate to produce its own version through normal order, rather than having John Boehner and Harry Reid meet in a White House cloakroom with Barack Obama hovering overhead.  That starts with this CR and then moves into the FY2014 budget debate next month. If Republicans can keep taxes off the table and the sequestration reductions in the rate of increase in place, that will be an incremental but still significant win.  The position of the conservatives on the upcoming CR strategy is designed to give Reid no excuses in following the proper budgeting procedure.

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Continuing resolutions; fiscal cliffs; sequestration; raising the debt ceiling. All of these things keep happening because CONGRESS STILL HASN’T PASSED A BUDGET. The one thing they are required to do in the Constitution, and they are failing horribly. And ignorant voters keep re-electing these idiots.

We’re doomed.

RoadRunner on March 2, 2013 at 1:06 PM

If Republicans can keep taxes off the table and the sequestration reductions in the rate of increase in place,

Ed must be an Aerosmith fan.

Dream on.

BobMbx on March 2, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Conservative House Republicans on Wednesday signaled support for their leadership’s plan to pass a six-month government-funding measure that would reflect the budget cuts from the sequester

…WHAT FLUKEN BUDGET?…are they talking about?…WHAT BUDGET?????????

KOOLAID2 on March 2, 2013 at 1:07 PM

Conservative House Republicans on Wednesday signaled support for their leadership’s plan to pass a six-month government-funding measure that would reflect the budget cuts from the sequester.

Wrong move. Another CCR to allow continued, un-Constitutional, unbudgeted feral government to continue to assault America … Great. Just great.

The stamp of approval — mixed with only tepid skepticism from a few members who have bucked Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) in the past —increases the likelihood a government shutdown will be avoided after March 27, when the current stopgap funding bill runs out.

Just force an actual budget and let Barky and the dems shut the feral government down, already. Enough.

Of course, I don’t expect anything close to this out of the cowardly, stupid House GOP … but they are in control of the purse strings and THEY are responsible for allowing this feral government to continue unchecked for the past two+ years.

And the sequester pretend cuts are a joke. How about cutting funding for full departments? For BarkCare (since you rat-bastids don’t have the cojones to even try to act as if you are thinking about a repeal). For lots of administration goodies … Cut, cut, cut and force a budget, dammit!

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 2, 2013 at 1:08 PM

…DO NOT FUND…A N Y T H I N G…!!!!

KOOLAID2 on March 2, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Guess we will just have to wait and see if the r’s will hold firm on this also? I would imagine bho is already planning a daily AF1 get out of dc to slam the r’s on what he wants and plans to continue the r blame!

Also, if this isn’t done before bho heads to Israel near the end on the month, will he have to use ‘autopen’ again if he isn’t here? Funny how he seems to be no where in sight to sign some things?
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letget on March 2, 2013 at 1:11 PM

The only thing the GOP Congress knows how to do is get suckered by the dems.

I’m ready for a third party because I see no difference in the outcomes of the 2 that seem to have the power.

SayNo2-O on March 2, 2013 at 1:12 PM

It’s a shame that elected officials don’t have to meet the same standards regarding dereliction of duty as an 18 year old Marine Corps Private. Harry Reid would have been booted a long time ago.

BKeyser on March 2, 2013 at 1:13 PM

I think this is the best strategy for the GOP to take. And lemme just add, all the low info voters I know, from work to all those on facebook blame republicans entirely for the extreme (their words) budget cuts we just got. Obama is blameless and the GOP are the villains. Pathetic.

Jack_Burton on March 2, 2013 at 1:14 PM

The only thing the GOP Congress knows how to do is get suckered by the dems.

I’m ready for a third party because I see no difference in the outcomes of the 2 that seem to have the power.

SayNo2-O on March 2, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Libertarian? Constitution?

thebrokenrattle on March 2, 2013 at 1:15 PM

Just force an actual budget and let Barky and the dems shut the feral government down, already. Enough.

How does one “force” a budget, on the Senate…please enlighten us oh Parliamentarian Guru?

JFKY on March 2, 2013 at 1:15 PM

Conservative House Republicans

That’s as oxymoronic as:

Liberty Loving Liberals.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 2, 2013 at 1:20 PM

How does one “force” a budget, on the Senate…please enlighten us oh Parliamentarian Guru?

JFKY on March 2, 2013 at 1:15 PM

By passing one in the House and refusing to pass a CR. It ain’t rocket science. It ain’t even model rocket science.

The House CONTROLS THE PURSE STRINGS.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 2, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Well geeze , we sure don’t want to do anything
to upset anybody now do we ?

Lucano on March 2, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Gee, how about holding out for an actual budget? This is all kabuki.

CantCureStupid on March 2, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Has anyone informed the Congress that they are the owners of our Country’s check book? Trying to blame spending on anyone else is futile. There are 1300 funded federal agencies and I’m sure there isn’t a politician in DC that would mention any of them to cut.

mixplix on March 2, 2013 at 1:28 PM

JFKY on March 2, 2013 at 1:15 PM

And the point is to force the Senate to actually consider and vote on a budget – the one the House sends up. The Senate can attach amendments and trash it all they like, but they have to bring it to a floor vote and then there can be discussions on a final budget. This is how these things actually work and have been this way for well over 200 years … until the Indonesian Dog-Eater’s reign and helped along by Weeper Boner’s pathetic tenure, particularly.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 2, 2013 at 1:29 PM

We really are in a bad place here. The only barrier to unfettered Obama tyranny is the republican house. Yet they fold like a cheap suit whenever the going is moderately tough. At the same time, expressing that displeasure in the 2014 election would lead to a Nancy Pelosi return to Speakership and unfettered democrat tyranny — carbon taxes, gun confiscation, agenda 21, you name it, it will be implemented and the democrat public relations arm (the MSM) will dutifully promote the party line to the masses.

Bottom line, we can’t let the dems take the house but somehow we have to get republicans with spines.

AZfederalist on March 2, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Continuing resolutions; fiscal cliffs; sequestration; raising the debt ceiling. All of these things keep happening because CONGRESS STILL HASN’T PASSED A BUDGET. The one thing they are required to do in the Constitution, and they are failing horribly. And ignorant voters keep re-electing these idiots.

We’re doomed.

RoadRunner on March 2, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Actually the House has passed a budget each year as required by law. It is the Senate which has not, and Obama who has failed to meet the statutory deadlines for budget submissions.

Adjoran on March 2, 2013 at 1:33 PM

…h/t to SparkySequester Molesters !

KOOLAID2 on March 2, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Actually the House has passed a budget each year as required by law. It is the Senate which has not, and Obama who has failed to meet the statutory deadlines for budget submissions.

Adjoran on March 2, 2013 at 1:33 PM

That’s right, but then the House has folded every year and allowed the unbudgeted spending to continue with one CR after another, along with never even trying to hold Barky responsible for missing the administration deadlines. Barky demonstrates clear contempt of Congress by not following the law and submitting his budgets (which have all gone down to unanimous votes against – the ones that have been brought up – which is truly un-Precedented and one of the most pathetic displays of inept “governance” in all of recorded history.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 2, 2013 at 1:36 PM

The position of the conservatives on the upcoming CR strategy is designed to give Reid no excuses in following the proper budgeting procedure.

Are you saying, Ed, that Reid had excuses, legitimate or otherwise, for not following budget procedure for the last four years?

If so, what were those excuses?

I dont think democrats had to come up with any excuse for not doing their job for the last four years, because neither Republicans nor the media called them on it.

Cavalry on March 2, 2013 at 1:41 PM

And this is not a proposal for a “clean CR”. It’s a proposal for a cowardly, emasculated CR. If the GOP is even considering any sort of CR they would have to attach major concessions from the America-hating left to it – like repeal of BarkyCare which is already wreaking major damage even before it goes into effect. Of course, the GOP’s idea of a major concession is something like that retarded sequester that they crowed about when passing it for raising the debt limit to allow Barky and the dems to continue their asininity with our money and our descendants’ money only to turn around and run scared from the sequester the minute it appeared to have to go into effect (as we ALL knew that the super-committee was a total joke that only the dimmest among us would have bet anything on).

This is a proposal for a “cowardly CR” by a group that loves to cave to the most inept, incompetent, dumbest people on the planet. Even the French laugh at the surrender-monkeys in the GOP.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 2, 2013 at 1:48 PM

The only thing the GOP Congress knows how to do is get suckered by the dems.

SayNo2-O on March 2, 2013 at 1:12 PM

This assumes facts not in evidence primarily, that the GOP oppose Democrat increases in spending. I have seen no believable evidence to that effect.

SWalker on March 2, 2013 at 1:49 PM

By focusing on Congress or even the president, we may be focusing on the wrong thing for long term success. As long as the communists (and let’s be honest here, that’s what we have) are in control of the media and the educational industry, nothing is going to improve. Without being able to get a message that is at worst neutral to free market, constitutional principles and better actually promotes constitutional principles to the average low information voter, those voters will continue to vote for the candidate the communist press and education establishment promote. This needs to be job one.

AZfederalist on March 2, 2013 at 1:50 PM

AZfederalist on March 2, 2013 at 1:50 PM

I would agree that there is an underlying principle that needs to be addressed before we can even BEGIN messaging something to the American people.

Right now the Alinsky tactics of demonizing opponents has placed a wall between the Republicans and the people who don’t already agree with them. That wall is maintained by Obama lying about Republicans being basically evil. The Republicans have to IMHO completely shut down the political discourse and ONLY discuss things like the President saying Republicans want “dirty air and dirty water”

The focus has to be 100% on the Alinsky tactics so the press is forced to report the impasse in Washington is Obama demonization of Republicans.

Only a halt to political discourse and forcing a discussion of the President is that going to stop and until that happens Republicans can do nothing to advance ANYTHING with the part of the country they need to try and reach.

Conan on March 2, 2013 at 2:03 PM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on March 2, 2013 at 1:48 PM

The fact a government shutdown isn’t on the menu for a UnAmerican continuation of the 2009 budget is really a “win”

How pathetic.

Conan on March 2, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Lol, still whining bout the Republican House. What about the sequester? Didn’t the House hold tough? And you were all whining that they’d cave. Lol. Jeez, you’re used a pessimistic attitude, ain’t you? Let it burn, and the like. Really mature! When the Republican House held fast to the sequester despite negative coverage by the MSM, never saw the so called pub whiners praise the steadfastness of our House pubs. Lol. And now, here we go again.

tommy71 on March 2, 2013 at 2:05 PM

tommy71 on March 2, 2013 at 2:05 PM

I wonder what your complaints would be if the Republicans used 60 Senators and a Republican House to pass a completely partisan budget years ago with all kind of cuts democrats would hate to their favorite clients and then after they LOST the House because the public deemed them out of control forced it to be the budget forever with no budget even suggested by the Republican Senate and there was nothing the left could do unless the democrats wanted to shutdown the government and get the wrath of the American people who wanted their government checks.

Wonder how much you would be wailing tommy71 about the return of yearly budget negotiation for the CURRENT elected leaders. Can’t even image the wailing about dictatorship and imperialism.

Conan on March 2, 2013 at 2:14 PM

Send a budget to Senate and then DENY ANY OTHER FUNDING UNTIL THAT BUDGET PASSES.

No more backroom deals.
No more kicking the can down the road.

If the government of the United States of America cannot see fit to abide by the law I don’t see why the rest of us have to kowtow to it either.

He rules and laws have meaning or they don’t.

Skywise on March 2, 2013 at 2:14 PM

The House wants to push ahead soon on a new CR in order to force the Senate to produce its own version through normal order, rather than having John Boehner and Harry Reid meet in a White House cloakroom with Barack Obama hovering overhead.

Although I wanted a shutdown I can at least take comfort (hopefully) that we have seen the last of the Obama-Boehner meetings. Why anyone would think anything could come out of that is beyond me. Obama is just out to pimp himself and give speeches after the meeting is over. He literally is useless and should be ignored for the next four years by the GOP congress.

William Eaton on March 2, 2013 at 2:17 PM

Correction I meant to say GOP House above…

William Eaton on March 2, 2013 at 2:18 PM

If I were to express what I truly think of our elected “representatives” not only would I be banned from this site, but the guys in black uniforms with the nazi-like helmets and jackboots would be at my door, and I would be history.

HiJack on March 2, 2013 at 2:18 PM

The msm will slam the sequester EVERY few MINUTES for MONTHS!

The crack team at abc news is now reporting that 3.5 million people on extended unemployment insurance are ALL getting their free government handouts cut by 9%! They will constantly trumpet this OBAMA decision as the fault of the Republicans.

Gee, I wonder why Obama did not reduce the number of weeks instead of sticking it to as many people as possible? Could it be as simple as trickle down socialist misery where everyone shares the pain of a FAILED government?

Look for Boehner, and the Democrats, to pass a nice clean CR that increases the debt ceiling by 2 trillion and restores all of the spending.

Freddy on March 2, 2013 at 2:19 PM

What about the sequester?

tommy71 on March 2, 2013 at 2:05 PM

It’s “sequestration”, you grammar-retardant imbecile. Just because the MSM and the dolts in Congress don’t understand the English language doesn’t mean you have to broadcast your ignorance to the rest of us.

HiJack on March 2, 2013 at 2:23 PM

Low info,voters also blame the GOP for the need for the continuing resolution. How do we break through to them?

Jack_Burton on March 2, 2013 at 2:28 PM

In all of the hysteria over the sequester this week, almost all of it from the White House and amplified by the media

But I was told that the only fearmongering on this was coming from Rush Limbaugh!

Del Dolemonte on March 2, 2013 at 2:29 PM

- IF – a clean CR is the tactic that Repulbicans want to employ, they need to make that public early & often.

Obama has proven over & over that he will demagogue every Republican proposal by calling for “a balanced approach”. If Republicans want to make it crystal clear that they are seeking to eliminate governing by a monthly crisis cycle, then they are going to have to shout out with a unified voice – THIS IS NO WAY TO RUN A COUNTRY!.

pilsener on March 2, 2013 at 2:29 PM

HiJack on March 2, 2013 at 2:18 PM

To lift a line from Rush that he used after the election. “Events are going to have to change things not talk”

The low-information voter only knows direct pain to themselves and unless there is a painful crash and more importantly they blame the President and the Democrats for being in charge we are really doomed for this kind of politics.

It’s an open question whether the Obama political cult will break.

It didn’t for FDR who was seen as a God in 1937 by his followers when we had similar circumstances and was completely believed in every blame game thing he did.

FDR ended up on the dime in 1946 a year after his 4th term ended with his death and is worshiped in history books as our savior with double digit unemployment for every year up to WWII and sorry any idiot could have known what to do next after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor and the Nazi declared war on us so those years are silly to count as something no one else could have done.

FDR got away with ALL his left-wing extremism and that is a depressing thought.

Conan on March 2, 2013 at 2:31 PM

Another cave by Boehner and his RINO supporters. Just a day late after I predicted it yesterday.

bgibbs1000 on March 2, 2013 at 2:33 PM

Low information voters are called that for a reason. They don’t pay attention to information. No matter what the GOP does the low info voter will blame the GOP for all that is wrong. Nothing, no amount of info will change that.

bgibbs1000 on March 2, 2013 at 2:37 PM

Lol, still whining bout the Republican House. What about the sequester? Didn’t the House hold tough? And you were all whining that they’d cave. Lol. Jeez, you’re used a pessimistic attitude, ain’t you? Let it burn, and the like. Really mature! When the Republican House held fast to the sequester despite negative coverage by the MSM, never saw the so called pub whiners praise the steadfastness of our House pubs. Lol. And now, here we go again.

tommy71 on March 2, 2013 at 2:05 PM

…it ain’t over yet!…does your grade school go from kindergarten to fifth grade… or kindergarten to sixth grade?…I’m trying to figure out which grade school you go too …since some middle schools start in the sixth grade…and you’re not in middle school yet!
…you don’t take a nap after milk and granola bars do you?

KOOLAID2 on March 2, 2013 at 2:38 PM

There are no consevative repubs, they are satisfied with the status quo. According to the GOP, doing nothing is a “big win” for them. Pathetic.

Panther on March 2, 2013 at 2:40 PM

Bottom line, we can’t let the dems take the house but somehow we have to get republicans with spines.

AZfederalist on March 2, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Whatever, I’m over it. Clearly the republicans aren’t voting / acting with my best interests in their hearts any more then the democrats are. I don’t care if it’s john boehner or nancy pelosi destroying our country, and since the only thing I can do is vote… I guess I’ll have to vote against the people who promised me 100 billion dollars in REAL CUTS in year one (wayy back in 2010) then didn’t deliver and have since rubber stamped everything the dems have put forward.

Timin203 on March 2, 2013 at 2:40 PM

In all of the hysteria over the sequester this week, almost all of it from the White House and amplified by the media

But I was told that the only fearmongering on this was coming from Rush Limbaugh!

Del Dolemonte on March 2, 2013 at 2:29 PM

A+
(:->)

KOOLAID2 on March 2, 2013 at 2:42 PM

…increases the likelihood a government shutdown will be avoided after March 27, when the current stopgap funding bill runs out.

Whew, that’s a relief! Now the government can keep bleeding America dry in service to their cronies while Main Street circles the drain. Way to go, GOP! /

FloatingRock on March 2, 2013 at 2:43 PM

Pussies.

Hucklebuck on March 2, 2013 at 2:47 PM

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If Republicans can keep taxes off the table and the sequestration reductions in the rate of increase in place, that will be an incremental but still significant win

You consider that significant. In 2009 a “one time” stimulus of 790 billion was passed. Somehow each year since then that amount has be included in the CR’s. Now a proposal to incorporate a 80 billion cut in the rate of increase is considered significant. Orwellian at its best.

chemman on March 2, 2013 at 2:51 PM

No new Dem stealth revenooooos!

onlineanalyst on March 2, 2013 at 3:00 PM

If Republicans can keep taxes off the table and the sequestration reductions in the rate of increase in place, that will be an incremental but still significant win

You consider that significant. In 2009 a “one time” stimulus of 790 billion was passed. Somehow each year since then that amount has be included in the CR’s. Now a proposal to incorporate a 80 billion cut in the rate of increase is considered significant. Orwellian at its best.

chemman on March 2, 2013 at 2:51 PM

…THANK YOU!

KOOLAID2 on March 2, 2013 at 3:01 PM

We are ruled by 536 Brave Sir Robins.

trigon on March 2, 2013 at 3:14 PM

Whatever, I’m over it. Clearly the republicans aren’t voting / acting with my best interests in their hearts any more then the democrats are. I don’t care if it’s john boehner or nancy pelosi destroying our country, and since the only thing I can do is vote… I guess I’ll have to vote against the people who promised me 100 billion dollars in REAL CUTS in year one (wayy back in 2010) then didn’t deliver and have since rubber stamped everything the dems have put forward.

Timin203 on March 2, 2013 at 2:40 PM

This is one of the problems the republicans have created for themselves. The fact is that as bad as Boehner has been; and he has been a friggin’ disaster, had Pelosi remained in charge you would now be paying $8 or more per gallon for gasoline and your electric rates would have skyrocketed due to implementation of cap and trade. Agenda 21 would be on the table. After Sandy Hook, there would have been immediate gun ban legislation passed through both houses of Congress and confiscation would not have been out of question.

The problem is Boehner has been so bad, that LiV’s and LiB’s like Tim here are willing to just give up and let the dems destroy everything come 2015. One thing for all of you LiB folks — you don’t have the luxury of standing on the curb watching the house burn down, you are in the house with the flames licking around you and you aren’t going to escape serious, if not fatal [to your freedom] damage. You are like being on a sinking boat laughing at those who put the hole in it. Yeah, they are going down because of their stupidity but you are going down with them. You might have the moral high ground, but in the end, you are just going to be another victim of the shipwreck

AZfederalist on March 2, 2013 at 3:18 PM

You consider that significant. In 2009 a “one time” stimulus of 790 billion was passed. Somehow each year since then that amount has be included in the CR’s. Now a proposal to incorporate a 80 billion cut in the rate of increase is considered significant. Orwellian at its best.

chemman on March 2, 2013 at 2:51 PM

This is the “messaging” that the GOP must shout.

The Dems have never let up on the meme that Big Oil gets preferential tax treatment. It’s time to call out the assorted green energy boondoggles that have gone bankrupt and bled our moneys dry. Point out the administration’s favored companies that not only pay not taxes but actually get rebates or credits.

onlineanalyst on March 2, 2013 at 3:19 PM

tommy71 on March 2, 2013

…I never use it…but I forgot this…/…(tommy71)

KOOLAID2 on March 2, 2013 at 3:24 PM

One point that the GOP continues to forget is that the Dems always “negotiate” from their pie-in-the-sky demands as a starting point. Why are these Repbulicans telegraphing their own humble goals.

For the last several years since the first stimulus gift, the CRs have built on that false foundation. For the Dems to demand a continuation of this charade and to call anything less a cut is the height of chutzpah. This is the method that the Dems always use when they scream about “cuts.”

Has Big Bird died yet? Are whole neighborhoods living under bridges and eating out of trash cans?

onlineanalyst on March 2, 2013 at 3:42 PM

Let the House pass a budget and send it to the Senate, no cr , and force the Senate to do their job. They can do it the old way by different sections and if the kitchen gets to hot, let it burn because Obama would(will) do it to them anyway. What cost is really too great to stop Obama?

tim c on March 2, 2013 at 3:47 PM

The House Republicans are all wimpy men and women. Where are the heroes? Where is the fight for what is right and true and good. Go hide in a corner, scaredy cats. Let principled, unafraid Americans take up the fight for our liberty and freedom. Go home, don’t run for office again.

You all make me sick.

FastTalker on March 2, 2013 at 4:00 PM

FREEZE spending at current nominal dollars. Next year CUT nominal dollars by 1 per cent. Let the sky fall and life as we know it end.
For the paid for entitlement programs (Social Security and Medicare) just freeze at current nominal dollars – i.e. no COLA increases. Military and government pensions – also freeze. Welfare programs (i.e. Medicaid, Food Stamps, general welfare) should be frozen and then cut 1 percent until the budget balances with actual tax revenues.
Once the geniuses have a dollar in projected income (i.e. taxes), they can spend it.

Bernfp on March 2, 2013 at 4:54 PM

Lol, Conan and HiJack. And come on KA2, I know you, dude. ;-) And HiJack, recheck YOUR grammar.

tommy71 on March 2, 2013 at 4:58 PM

The reason the dhimocrapts don’t want a budget and wants to operate by continuing resolution, that is based on an inflated starting point of 2008 after the bailout and trillion dollar stimulus. By going to a CR, the trillion dollar stimulus becomes the baseline for the future spending. If the repubs go for a CR that is based on last years over-inflated spending (by a trillion dollars) we need to fire them, fire the dems, and run Boehner out of town on a rail. Who the heck does he think he’s kidding? He is not on the conservative side, he is incompetent. He should be immediately replaced, along with pelosi and reid.

Old Country Boy on March 2, 2013 at 6:46 PM

Many of the comments here reflect unfamiliarity with how the appropriations process works.

For example, there is no possibility of passing a Budget for the current year (Fiscal Year 2013). The House passed its budget resolution last spring. The Senate did nothing. At this point more work on the budget resolution is worthless.

Second, we are already five months into the Fiscal year. There is no possibility of passing any of the 12 Appropriations Bills for this year, since the Senate has passed none of them.

A clean Continuing Resolution would be a remarkably good outcome, because it would not contain a thousand or more pages of Congressional directives, most of which would be extremely difficult for government agencies to carry out with barely six months left in the year. And in most cases there are deadlines well before September 30 for initiating spending actions. If Congress were to tell an agency to start a competition for some new projects, it could not be done properly in that short a time.

A clean Continuing Resolution to cover the rest of the year would be a strong victory for conservatives in the Republican Party. It would prevent the Democrats from adding on all kinds of spending that would be included in a “dirty” CR.

Conservatives need to applaud the efforts of the House leadership to complete the current year with a clean resolution, and then start work in April on next year. Doing so will force the hand of the Senate, and will prevent Senators from adding on pet projects to brag about. This will especially benefit the Republicans challenging Senate Democrats up for election in Republican-leaning states in 2014.

Anyone who knows how the government works will confirm that this is the best outcome. Any other approach will waste huge amounts of time that needs to be spent on other longer-range issues.

Finally, passing a clean CR soon will undercut Obama’s criticism of the House Republicans, for the onus will be on the Democrats in the Senate to act and for the President to accept it.

rfhirsch on March 2, 2013 at 7:13 PM

rfhirsch – so does your recommendation mean any of the O’care fiasco will be strangled? Just askin’

I would like to see something strangling O’care.

Glad that Rs did not cave on sequestration (what an ugly word). For once – thanks!

MN J on March 2, 2013 at 7:40 PM

A CR at the FY 2012 rate will prevent some aspects of Obamacare from being implemented. Those that were not started last year may not get any money to start them this year.

The larger picture on O’care has to be addressed separately. If it were in the Continuing Resolution, then the Democrats in the Senate would be ready to add in other things that are not directly relevant to the appropriations for the last half of the year.

A clean CR will remove an issue that is taking up too much time in Congress, time that could be better spent working on longer-range problems.

The Republicans also did not “cave” on the Bush tax rates. They got 98% of them made permanent, something that was not possible with a Republican House, Senate and President. And the AMT problem was fixed, permanently, which is a big win for keeping tax rates low. The fix was previously done each year, which made planning difficult until the last minute. Now it is completely off the table. It would have been easy to do the annual fix once more but that would have left a big weapon in the hands of the Democrats.

rfhirsch on March 2, 2013 at 8:26 PM

How about they agree to a CR at FY 2007 spending levels?

FY 2007 was the last budget passed by Republican House, Republican Senate, and Republican President (passed in 2006 for FY 2007), and the Democrats campaigned in 2006 on the premise that Republican spending and deficits were too high, and the promise that Democrats would practice “fiscal discipline” and “no more deficit spending”.

Remind Democrats of their own promises.

Over the past decade, the Republican controlled Congress took our nation in the wrong direction. Too many Americans are paying a heavy price for those wrong choices: record costs for energy, health care and education; jobs shipped overseas; and budgets that heap record debt on our children. For millions, the middle-class dream has been replaced by a middle-class squeeze…

Democrats are proposing a New Direction for America…

With integrity, civility and fiscal discipline, our New Direction for America will use commonsense principles to address the aspirations and fulfill the hopes and dreams of all Americans. That is our promise to the American people….

Our federal budget should be a statement of our national values. One of those values is responsibility. Democrats are committed to ending years of irresponsible budget policies that have produced historic deficits. Instead of piling trillions of dollars of debt onto our children and grandchildren, we will restore “Pay As You Go” budget discipline.

Budget discipline has been abandoned by the Bush Administration and its Republican congressional majorities. Congress under Republican control has turned a projected $5.6 trillion 10-year surplus at the end of the Clinton years into a nearly $3 trillion deficit– including the four worst deficits in the history of America. The nation’s debt ceiling has been raised four times in just five years to more than $8.9 trillion. Nearly half of our nation’s record debt is owned by foreign countries including China and Japan. Without a return to fiscal discipline, the foreign countries that make our computers, our clothing and our toys will soon be making our foreign policy. Deficit spending is not just a fiscal problem – it’s a national security issue as well.

Our New Direction is committed to “Pay As You Go” budgeting – no more deficit spending.

If we limit spending to FY 2007 dollar amounts, our future spending would be balance with revenue. Democrats promised that that is what they want, right? They really don’t want to continue their streak of the six worst deficits in the history of America, right? (FY 2008 – FY 2013 are the six worst deficits in the history of America, and the Democrats have held majority control of the budgeting process for all of those years.)

ITguy on March 2, 2013 at 10:01 PM

No more CRs.
No more funding for Obamacare.

AshleyTKing on March 2, 2013 at 11:54 PM

The best thing for the House to do is to send a budget with some big cuts to the Senate. Then state that they did their constitutionally mandated job and that there will be no further CR’s passed and then let it sit on Harry’s desk until he does his job. Work on educating LIV’s that Congress is comprised of the House and Senate and that the latter filed to vote on both previous budgets from the House and the President. All the while, government is not funded. non-essential government workers stay home. Funny, how the government has non-essential workers to begin with.

stuartm80127 on March 3, 2013 at 10:49 AM

17 trillion in debt and we are supposed to take the sequester as a victory.It must be standard operating procedure in the Congress for Republicans to leave their gonads at the door.

redware on March 3, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Debt-ceiling suspended till May 18…that’s the headline.

CR’s are for scumbags. No doubt Republicans will say OK to whatever. Wouldn’t surprise me if debt-ceiling remains untethered in perpetuity. Full-speed-ahead on the USS Japan Theory.

John Kettlewell on March 4, 2013 at 4:46 AM

Continuing resolutions; fiscal cliffs; sequestration; raising the debt ceiling. All of these things keep happening because CONGRESS STILL HASN’T PASSED A BUDGET. The one thing they are required to do in the Constitution, and they are failing horribly. And ignorant voters keep re-electing these idiots.

RoadRunner, you are right, we are doomed, but don’t blame everyone, blame the donkey heading up the Senate Majority. He is the one using the strategy of refusing to bring a budget to the floor. He may not like the budget passed by the House, but differences should be worked out in conference. Too bad he doesn’t trust his own caucus enough to permit that.

georgeofthedesert on March 4, 2013 at 1:25 PM