Romney: It was an exciting roller coaster ride, but the ride ends

posted at 12:41 pm on March 1, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

Last week, we learned that we’ll be hearing from Mitt Romney at CPAC on March 15, but in the meantime, Fox News snagged the Romneys’ first post-election interview to air this Sunday.


I’m inclined to agree with Byron York here: There’s a lot of residual anger out there over the shortcomings of Romney’s campaign machinery, but unseating an incumbent is also tough even in the best of circumstances. He bowed out gracefully from the public eye for awhile, took some time to reflect and let things simmer down, and I’m interested to hear what he has to say and further examine our mistakes.

Of course, Romney and his aides worked hard, but they were outplayed on many fronts by an Obama campaign that knew how to win.

A lot of the criticism directed at Romney is valid. He and his top advisers did make a lot of mistakes, big and small. But for a moment, perhaps, Republicans should appreciate one thing about Mitt Romney. After he lost, he has not disgraced himself and his party. And that is a lot more than can be said of the previous Republican presidential campaign. …

Romney lost and kept his mouth shut for a respectable period of time. His team hasn’t engaged in unseemly finger-pointing. And by staying out of the picture, he has allowed his party to begin the job of fixing its problems. Even in a bad situation, that’s still something to be thankful for.

Sidebar: I think David Weigel had a fantastic idea over at Slate for a way in which post-presidential candidate Mitt Romney could contribute to the national dialogue. The guy basically ran on his resume of solid business sense and managerial know-how; can I second that we give Detroit to Mitt Romney? The city is currently a hot mess of financial chaos, and it’s looking likely that Gov. Snyder is going to follow through on the state law that gives him the option to hire a fiscal-crisis emergency manager. Late in the game of the 2012 campaign, Team Obama started hitting Romney hard by purposefully misrepresenting his now-infamous 2008 “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt” op-ed, and although in this case we’re now talking about the municipality rather that the auto industry, how much of a sweetly glorious yet highly productive poke-in-the-eye would it be if Romney took over the city’s finances and managed to pull them back from the fiscal brink?


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Just get lost. Go do your retirement or whatever thing.

This wussy should have never run.

Charlatanic thugs can’t be beaten with silky gloves.

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 12:44 PM

The right enable the left’s dedicated Utopian tyrannies. Therefore I hate the Rs more than the Ds.

The Ds do what they say.

The Rs pretend and promise, and then scroom you, royally.

To Hades with them all.

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Ride my sausage roller coaster Mitt, you worthless waste of donation money. You were expected to fight – at least twice as hard as you did in Florida primaries – not to bend over and take it meekly up the wazoo.

PS: I do have a fleeing idea that your family well-being was threatened by the Chicago gang so you’d let them win, in which case I commiserate with you.

Archivarix on March 1, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 12:44 PM
Easy to call others wussies from behind a keyboard, isn’t it? Lighten up.

Late in the game of the 2012 campaign, Team Obama started hitting Romney hard by purposefully misrepresenting his now-infamous 2008 “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt” op-ed, and although in this case we’re now talking about the municipality rather that the auto industry, how much of a sweetly glorious yet highly productive poke-in-the-eye would it be if Romney took over the city’s finances and managed to pull them back from the fiscal brink?

That’s an excellent idea.

changer1701 on March 1, 2013 at 12:46 PM

One of his goofs said “there is no media bias in the US press” or some such. These are delusional people.

Get lost.

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 12:46 PM

The mistake was nominating Romney. Period. He should never have gotten through the primary process in the first place if conservatives were serious about winning.

gryphon202 on March 1, 2013 at 12:47 PM

, and I’m interested to hear what he has to say and further examine our mistakes.

Our Mistakes? OUR MISTAKES?????

portlandon on March 1, 2013 at 12:47 PM

The guy basically ran on his resume of solid business sense and managerial know-how; can I second that we give Detroit to Mitt Romney?

Absolutely frikkin not. Detroit had that chance and snubbed the one man who could save them. Let Them Rot.

HotAirian on March 1, 2013 at 12:47 PM

“our mistakes”

To Hell with you!!!

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Go away, Mitt.

You never should have run for our nomination because you never had any intention of winning.

Obama is not a “nice guy”. He isn’t a “smart guy”. He’s the jerk frontman puppet for malevolent forces that seek to remove the liberty from every American.

wildcat72 on March 1, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Our Mistakes? OUR MISTAKES?????

portlandon on March 1, 2013 at 12:47 PM

I know. Erika’s stock went down a few notches in my book, too.

gryphon202 on March 1, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Printing all your campaign materials in Reformed Egyptian Hieroglyphics was a real turnoff.

tom daschle concerned on March 1, 2013 at 12:48 PM

The guy basically ran on his resume of solid business sense and managerial know-how; can I second that we give Detroit to Mitt Romney?

Detrout, the broken latrine, will be taken over by the state.

The big cities in the US are Obama latrines now, full of rats in the slush.

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Absolutely frikkin not. Detroit had that chance and snubbed the one man who could save them. Let Them Rot.

HotAirian on March 1, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Give him DC after it falls into ruin and chaos after the feds default on the debt and the dollar is worth less than tree bark.

wildcat72 on March 1, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Sidebar: I think David Weigel had a fantastic idea over at Slate

Strike 2.

portlandon on March 1, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Yikes, just go a w a y.

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Living in Detroit, I wouldn’t wish being financial manager on anyone, even my worst enemy.

dpeters8 on March 1, 2013 at 12:50 PM

To Hell with you!!!

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 12:47 PM

This was for Mitt, not for Erika.

It’s also for squish Byron York, who is just a poodle.

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Sidebar: I think David Weigel had a fantastic idea over at Slate for a way in which post-presidential candidate Mitt Romney could contribute to the national dialogue. The guy basically ran on his resume of solid business sense and managerial know-how; can I second that we give Detroit to Mitt Romney? The city is currently a hot mess of financial chaos, and it’s looking likely that Gov. Snyder is going to follow through on the state law that gives him the option to hire a fiscal-crisis emergency manager. Late in the game of the 2012 campaign, Team Obama started hitting Romney hard by purposefully misrepresenting his now-infamous 2008 “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt” op-ed, and although in this case we’re now talking about the municipality rather that the auto industry, how much of a sweetly glorious yet highly productive poke-in-the-eye would it be if Romney took over the city’s finances and managed to pull them back from the fiscal brink?

This is a guy who allowed “consultants” to bilk tens of millions of dollars from his campaign for Project FailWhale and the worst ad-buying strategy ever, and he had no backup plan for either. Whatever solid business sense he once had seems to have vacated the premises.

The most important contribution he can make is delivering dollars from big-money donors to Senate candidates.

Walter Sobchak on March 1, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Walter Sobchak on March 1, 2013 at 12:51 PM

+100

portlandon on March 1, 2013 at 12:52 PM

It wasn’t so much a failure of Mr Romney as it was on the electorate. The electorate failed to properly educate themselves and to take the election seriously. It’s what happens when the worlds most important hiring of a country’s CEO has been reduced to an episode of American Idol.

“our mistakes”

To Hell with you!!!

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 12:47 PM

There is no doubt that the country made a grave mistake. There’s no way I can blame Romney for the state of the electorate. From a sane and educated point of view there wasn’t even a question who was more qualified to be President. I can’t blame Romney for this nation’s suicidal tendencies.

HotAirian on March 1, 2013 at 12:54 PM

The ride ends with the train flying off the unfinished track. Except like in the cartoons, the wreck is fatal.

Some ride, Mittens Wrongney.

MelonCollie on March 1, 2013 at 12:54 PM

What a loss.

In my opinion, he would have been a great President.

aquaviva on March 1, 2013 at 12:55 PM

“It was a roller coaster ride…..”

Cry me a freaking river. You super-rich Ruling class Progressive cloaked as a “Conservative” who gave up the fight after having a 6 point lead (after the first debate). You let Obama win…..and now WE’RE THE ONES STUCK ON THIS ******* ****** ride for the next four years.

You didn’t want to win, and we wasted untold millions and time and effort and defending your ****** ****** ***.

I LOATHE THE gop.

PappyD61 on March 1, 2013 at 12:55 PM

There’s a lot of residual anger out there over the shortcomings of Romney’s campaign machinery, but unseating an incumbent is also tough even in the best of circumstances.

Stop making excuses for them.

He bowed out gracefully from the public eye for awhile, took some time to reflect and let things simmer down, and I’m interested to hear what he has to say and further examine our mistakes.

Nope. Not interested in what Mr. “Severely Conservative” has to say.

conservative pilgrim on March 1, 2013 at 12:56 PM

He had a 6 or 7 point lead after the first debate!!!!!

and then just like McCain he rolled over and played freaking *** dead for the last month.

Despicable, filthy, lying scum republican ruling class.

And they will let Obama get off with this new lie of his over on Fox Business, and all across the media.

Obama Blames GOP for Failure to Avert Sequestration

PappyD61 on March 1, 2013 at 12:57 PM

There is no doubt that the country made a grave mistake. There’s no way I can blame Romney for the state of the electorate. From a sane and educated point of view there wasn’t even a question who was more qualified to be President. I can’t blame Romney for this nation’s suicidal tendencies.

HotAirian on March 1, 2013 at 12:54 PM

For all that Romney was a lousy choice versus a full-bore Marxist, he is NOT to blame for the American public not only electing Obama in the first place but seriously considering him for a second term.

He has no excuses for his campaign, but there is no blaming the fact that voters willingly chose Osocialist, in a massive tidal wave the first time. (bull me no cr@p about fraud; McLame got his buns toasted and that’s that)

MelonCollie on March 1, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Sidebar: I think David Weigel had a fantastic idea over at Slate


Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh famously said he hoped President Obama would “fail” in January, 2009. Almost a year later, when Limbaugh was rushed to the hospital with chest pains, Washington Post reporter David Weigel had a wish of his own. “I hope he fails,” Weigel cracked to fellow liberal reporters on the “Journolist” email list-serv.

“Too soon?” he wondered.

http://dailycaller.com/2010/06/25/emails-reveal-post-reporter-savaging-conservatives-rooting-for-democrats/

BoxHead1 on March 1, 2013 at 12:58 PM

HotAirian on March 1, 2013 at 12:54 PM

You are right, when you compare him to the Oaf in Chief.

You are wrong about his stones. If he’d have fought Obama as he fought Gingrich et all, he’d have won.

Don’t blame us for it.

That the land is in the majority full of fools is schadenfreudig beyond belief. A relatively free country always, always, always deserves whom they elect. May all who brung/kept Obama be utterly destroeyed by thim. None deserve any less, and theirs too.

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 12:58 PM

MelonCollie on March 1, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Right. I wish more R/Cs would use their God-given braind to multi-thread. It’s not that hard.

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 12:59 PM

You can’t beat Santa Clause

VegasRick on March 1, 2013 at 1:00 PM

This had nothing to do with mistakes on the part of his “campaign machine.” This has nothing to do with Obama’s team being master strategists. This has nothing to do with the difficulty of unseating an incumbent.

The problem — and it needs to be repeated ad nauseum — is that we did not run a conservative candidate. Again. And we got clobbered. Again.

Romney could not turn out the Republican base. So we lost. Period. But they’re already setting up the narrative that it was bad campaign machinery so that we can run a Karl Rove-picked moderate again next time.

Shump on March 1, 2013 at 1:01 PM

He had a 6 or 7 point lead after the first debate!!!!!

and then just like McCain he rolled over and played freaking *** dead for the last month.

Despicable, filthy, lying scum republican ruling class.

And they will let Obama get off with this new lie of his over on Fox Business, and all across the media.

Obama Blames GOP for Failure to Avert Sequestration

PappyD61 on March 1, 2013 at 12:57 PM

He never had a lead like that in the polling aggregate. His best showing was in Gallup, which was decidedly wrong. And all this ranting about not wanting to win is dumb. You don’t get into that, and take the hits that will come to both you and your family (especially if you’re a Republican), unless you want the job.

changer1701 on March 1, 2013 at 1:01 PM

It wasn’t so much a failure of Mr Romney as it was on the electorate. The electorate failed to properly educate themselves and to take the election seriously. It’s what happens when the worlds most important hiring of a country’s CEO has been reduced to an episode of American Idol.

HotAirian on March 1, 2013 at 12:54 PM

Sure, the majority of the electorate, incl. on the right, are dumber than rocks.

Reagan pulled them along. Mitt never ran on an inspirational message. He just hammered the “I’m not Obama”…gosh, why relive the stupidity. The land deserves what she’s getting.

Get these clowns off of our views. Let them retire in style. Just GO Away. I hate the Rs more than the decicive Ds, who are neither liberal/progressive, but who know who they are and aim to achieve it.

Starve the Looters or let them destroy you.

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 1:04 PM

A great man. Would have been a great President. Oh well. I wish you nothing but the best, Mr. Romney.

GOPRanknFile on March 1, 2013 at 1:05 PM

If I had just managed to lose an election to an incumbent with 8% unemployment I would be too embarrassed to show my face on TV ever again.

Mark1971 on March 1, 2013 at 1:06 PM

The problem — and it needs to be repeated ad nauseum — is that we did not run a conservative candidate. Again. And we got clobbered. Again.

Romney could not turn out the Republican base. So we lost. Period. But they’re already setting up the narrative that it was bad campaign machinery so that we can run a Karl Rove-picked moderate again next time.

Shump on March 1, 2013 at 1:01 PM

How to explain, then, the conservatives that did lose in some of those Senate and House races?

changer1701 on March 1, 2013 at 1:06 PM

And as far as managing a bankrupt inner city like Detroit?

Please, Obama and his ilk blamed racism for whitey leaving the cities for the suburbs and leaving the poor to rot. So there will be a federal bailout of these disasters so no worries.

This will allow the Feds to build neighborhood grocery stores with approved items, free unionized healthcare clinics, probably free housing, training camps for the children, and on and on, and these people will just become dependents even more on the Federal government.

…….and we’re all going to pay for it.

The let it burn folks forget that the fire will consume us all, not just those close to the flame.

PappyD61 on March 1, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Hey Mittens!

Shut up and go away.

Bruno Strozek on March 1, 2013 at 1:09 PM

If I had just managed to lose an election to an incumbent with 8% unemployment I would be too embarrassed to show my face on TV ever again.

Mark1971 on March 1, 2013 at 1:06 PM

…at that a dummy who just spoke, looked and acted worse than Urkel. I made the mistake of watching part of the presser today. My, oh my, I was embarrassed for the land. What a dummy is chief. Oh, he reminded all “I’m not a dictator, I’m the president”.

If we’d have 1000 dollars for each time he said “I’m president” we’d all be filthy rich.

History will record this as a very low point in the land. Romney contributed a LOT to the Lillipution’s staying and rise. Obama was enabled to be this idiotically cocky.

May he destroy all who brung/kept him. None of you deserve any less.

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 1:10 PM

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 1:04 PM

Exactly right. Conservatism wins when those running under the banner make people understand why liberty and limited government is preferred. Running against the other, especially when the other is an incumbent, rarely succeeds. People tend to stick with the devil they know when the new devil in town isn’t really showing us a new way. And in the end it is also kind of difficult when the so called conservative candidate isn’t really a conservative.

“Hey! I’m not Obama! Give me a shot!”

How…inspiring…

NotCoach on March 1, 2013 at 1:10 PM

Hey Mittens!

Shut up and go away.

Bruno Strozek on March 1, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Why? It’s still a relative free land.

They told us how great he’d be, and now they can tell us how bitter their tears taste. It’s schadenfreudig, were it not so tragic for the land.

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 1:11 PM

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/21/gallup-romney-holds-steady-lead

Today’s tracking poll from Gallup confirms that Romney has opened a consistent, and significant, lead in the race against President Obama. After dipping a point yesterday, the poll finds Romney again leading Obama by 7 points among likely voters, 52-45. Romney even leads by 3-points among registered voters, a sample which gives Democrats an advantage. The Gallup poll has been remarkably steady since Romney surged into the lead.

A month ago, baseball statistician Nate Silver bragged that Gallup had correctly predicted 18 of the last 20 elections. Of course, Obama was leading the Gallup poll then. Now that Gallup shows Romney with a solid lead, Silver and the rest of the left are hell-bent on attacking Gallup’s credibility. In fact, in a textbook case of confirmation bias, Silver has greeted Romney’s rise in the Gallup poll by arguing that Obama’s chances of reelection have increased. Apparently, Romney’s rise in the polls is dooming his campaign.

Even if we allow that Gallup is overstating Romney’s lead, their results are consistent with virtually all other polling. State-level polling shows him maintaining solid leads in battlegrounds like North Carolina and Florida, tied or marginally ahead in Virginia, Colorado, New Hampshire and Iowa, and narrowing the gap in all the other swing states.

Other national polls that don’t use ridiculous turnout models all point to Romney edging Obama with just over two weeks to go.

………..and then he rolled over, and essentially agreed with the President in the last two debates.

PappyD61 on March 1, 2013 at 1:11 PM

How to explain, then, the conservatives that did lose in some of those Senate and House races?

changer1701 on March 1, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Exactly. Last time I checked, Romney did better than conservative candidates like Akin and Mourdock in MO and IN, respectively. Heck, Romney even did better than Pence.

GOPRanknFile on March 1, 2013 at 1:13 PM

“Hey! I’m not Obama! Give me a shot!”

How…inspiring…

NotCoach on March 1, 2013 at 1:10 PM

“I’m severely conservative” told me that he’s as big a Machiavellian as is Obama.

Obama is a NPD dunce, run by billionnaires.

Romney is an erudite dunce.

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 1:13 PM

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/latest_rom_shell_he_didn_want_to_5EluB5LlOXnqdMTes1pVFL

Mitt Romney never wanted to run for president in the first place, his son says.

“He wanted to be president less than anyone I’ve met in my life. He had no desire to . . . run,” Tagg Romney told The Boston Globe in a story published yesterday.

Tagg said it was he and his mom, Ann, who persuaded Romney to make a run. for the Oval Office.

“If he could have found someone else to take his place . . . he would have been ecstatic to step aside,” Tagg said.

There you have it, from his own son. His heart wasn’t in it (except for destroying the gop primary field).

…..and yet, this guy and the Ruling class foisted this guy on us and we’re supposed to listen to him as being credible?

Think of the tens of millions of dollars and hours and walking door to door, and calling, and putting up signs….all for someone who his own son says didn’t want the job.

PappyD61 on March 1, 2013 at 1:16 PM

“Hey! I’m not Obama! Give me a shot!”

How…inspiring…

NotCoach on March 1, 2013 at 1:10 PM

Exactly.

Voters, young voters especially, need HOPE. Hope that we won’t be competing against millions of Asian and Mexican peasants for entry-level jobs. Hope that we won’t have even our puny paychecks cut to pay for all the gubbamint freebies. Hope that the marriage will someday be less than “put your balls on an anvil, hand your bride-to-be a hammer labeled ‘divorce’, and hope she never swings”.

“Because I’m not X” will not get you the youth vote. Throw every right-wing insult in the book at me and invent new ones if you please, it won’t change that fact.

MelonCollie on March 1, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Easy to call others wussies from behind a keyboard, isn’t it? Lighten up.

changer1701 on March 1, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Sorry, I just now saw your note.

1. You have no clue what any of us do/are and etc.

2. You do whatever you please and I do the same. I will always fight for your right to do so.

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 1:17 PM

, and I’m interested to hear what he has to say and further examine our mistakes.

Our Mistakes? OUR MISTAKES?????

portlandon on March 1, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Yeah. We need a definition on “our”. Must be some other “our” as most of us here didn’t want him during the primary and only grudgingly went along because he was the “ham sandwich” to Obama.

Bah. There’s no “our” here unless you want to fault “our” for not rioting and setting “the GOPe” on fire.

kim roy on March 1, 2013 at 1:17 PM

PappyD61 on March 1, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Have you ever considered that this is posturing and face-saving?

Who cares? Obviously he’s wanted it – he’s been at it for what? 8-12 years?

C’mon. At least try to think.

kim roy on March 1, 2013 at 1:21 PM

Think of the tens of millions of dollars and hours and walking door to door, and calling, and putting up signs….all for someone who his own son says didn’t want the job.

PappyD61 on March 1, 2013 at 1:16 PM

I’m not buyin’ that.

Romney has always had that ambition just like Bush’s sons do.

workingclass artist on March 1, 2013 at 1:22 PM

Heck, Romney even did better than Pence.

GOPRanknFile on March 1, 2013 at 1:13 PM

Pence won.

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 1:24 PM

You were expected to fight – at least twice as hard as you did in Florida primaries –…

… and that’s really the point, isn’t it? He and his campaign were positively brutal during the primaries, up to and beyond the point of being willing to not just destroy the message of the other nominees but also their characters and future aspirations. He and his campaign were totally willing to even destroy the conservative Republican message and foundational principles when attacking his opponents in the primaries even if that would have future costs in this and future elections. No quarter was given and saturation ads were the norm for all critical states in the primaries.

Yet once the nomination was secured, the candidate and campaign so willing to personally attack and give no quarter became meek, timid, and quiet. The farthest they were willing to go was, “he’s a nice guy, but just in over his head” and the massive wave of attack ads all of us expected to be unleashed, first after the convention, then in October, then in the final weeks, never came.

PS: I do have a fleeing idea that your family well-being was threatened by the Chicago gang so you’d let them win, in which case I commiserate with you.

Archivarix on March 1, 2013 at 12:45 PM

If that was the case, then why didn’t he stand up and say something? Blackmail is ugly and if we allow tyranny from those willing to use threats, then we already have devolved into a strongman dictatorship. If he couldn’t stand up to thuggery from Chicago, how was he going to do when being pushed by states with nukes?

AZfederalist on March 1, 2013 at 1:26 PM

go away and take blue gill with you.

conservative tarheel on March 1, 2013 at 1:27 PM

go away and take blue gill with you.

conservative tarheel on March 1, 2013 at 1:27 PM

And “derp derp you’re a jackboot not-zee” JFKY while you’re at it.

MelonCollie on March 1, 2013 at 1:29 PM

I am still of the mind that Romney actually won, and the election was stolen – not by voting fraud, which was good for maybe few hundred thousand votes, but by computerized machinery that summarizes the results. I am a software analyst with statistical degree, and I tell you that no computer program can or should be trusted if its source is not published (and even that is just a start).

Archivarix on March 1, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Ed just put this thread up.

Earlier today, Newt Gingrich appeared on CBS This Morning to explain just how far in the hole Republicans are in relation to Democrats in voter outreach. “You can’t just be an opposition party,” Gingrich warned. “You have to be a party that has a better alternative.” Even when the GOP has a better alternative, though, the party lost elections it should have won because of poor strategy and direction from its consultant class.

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 1:32 PM

how much of a sweetly glorious yet highly productive poke-in-the-eye would it be if Romney took over the city’s finances and managed to pull them back from the fiscal brink?

Great idea!

I mean, there are over 170,000,000 jobs at stake.

BacaDog on March 1, 2013 at 1:32 PM

I mean, there are over 170,000,000 jobs at stake.

BacaDog on March 1, 2013 at 1:32 PM

– Maxine Water, the biggest congressional dummy, were it not for all the others

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Pence won.

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Thanks for proving my point. Pence won Indiana. So did Romney. Romney won it by a bigger margin. Pence is more conservative than Romney.

GOPRanknFile on March 1, 2013 at 1:34 PM

I’m not buyin’ that.

Romney has always had that ambition just like Bush’s sons do.

workingclass artist on March 1, 2013 at 1:22 PM

I am. He wanted the nomination, something that was denied his father. Notice how quickly he pulled back after “winning” the first debate? Odd, huh?

He bowed out gracefully…

Well, “we” have that going for “us.” *eyeroll*

Fallon on March 1, 2013 at 1:35 PM

I am still of the mind that Romney actually won, and the election was stolen – not by voting fraud, which was good for maybe few hundred thousand votes, but by computerized machinery that summarizes the results. I am a software analyst with statistical degree, and I tell you that no computer program can or should be trusted if its source is not published (and even that is just a start).

Archivarix on March 1, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Wouldn’t surprise me at all. There were a lot of irregularities and strange going ons that no one seemed remotely interested in looking into.

kim roy on March 1, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Gingrich, on what Urkel’s plans are”

There will be a permanent 24/7 campaign to dominate the media
There will be a constant issue focus shifting to topics which isolate Republicans and arouse the President’s allies at the grassroots
Relentless cynicism will characterize the manipulation of facts, the choice of issues and the willingness to harm the American people and American institutions ( “maximum pain for political gain” is the underlying system)
The entire coalition of left wing allies will be mobilized over and over to overmatch the Republicans ( think Planned Parenthood, Sierra Club, unions, gay rights groups, etc etc)
The Republican Party will be relentlessly attacked and defined in extremist language ( anti-immigrant, homophobic, racist, waging war on women, etc) so the collapse and isolation of the brand makes candidates unacceptable and unelected with no regard for their personal characteristics
The 2012 turnout mechanisms will be modernized, improved and strengthened to try to make 2014 turnout resemble 2012 rather than 2010.

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 1:36 PM

GOPRanknFile on March 1, 2013 at 1:34 PM

All mute. In politics you win or you lose.

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 1:37 PM

The hate here is strong still. Have I wondered onto the DU or Kos?
10′s of million people voted for him. 10′s of thousands attended a rally for him. Yet, in this corner of the right, the only acceptable comment is hate for a man who ran and, to the dismay of many, lost.

alice

bluealice on March 1, 2013 at 1:37 PM

mute = moot

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Voters, young voters especially, need HOPE. Hope that we won’t be competing against millions of Asian and Mexican peasants for entry-level jobs.

MelonCollie on March 1, 2013 at 1:16 PM

How’s that magnificent idea working out for those young geniuses? Obama just released tens of thousands of illegals into the US workforce.

HotAirian on March 1, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Sidebar: I think David Weigel had a fantastic idea

I’m still letting that sink in.

steebo77 on March 1, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Romnney l o s t.

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 1:37 PM

All mute. In politics you win or you lose.

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Thanks for breaking that down for me, although I assume you mean “moot.” That really wasn’t the point I was trying to make, but nice try.

GOPRanknFile on March 1, 2013 at 1:38 PM

Obama just released tens of thousands of illegals into the US workforce.

HotAirian on March 1, 2013 at 1:37 PM

You forgot the word “criminals”.

These are felons.

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 1:39 PM

PS: I do have a fleeing idea that your family well-being was threatened by the Chicago gang so you’d let them win, in which case I commiserate with you.

Archivarix on March 1, 2013 at 12:45 PM

If that was the case, then why didn’t he stand up and say something? Blackmail is ugly and if we allow tyranny from those willing to use threats, then we already have devolved into a strongman dictatorship. If he couldn’t stand up to thuggery from Chicago, how was he going to do when being pushed by states with nukes?

AZfederalist on March 1, 2013 at 1:26 PM

It’s one thing to be personally threatened, and quite another to have your children’s life and limb on the line. Perhaps, being not the most experienced politician on nationwide scale, he would not believe for a moment that Democrats could stoop so low. Then he was given a demonstration.

And yes you’re right, it is tyranny. Perhaps Andrew Breitbart had evidence of that, one he paid for with his life. Remember his promise to post something so utterly shocking as to turn American politics upside down? The video of Obama playing pocket snooker while lecturing to a racist black crowd sure wasn’t it.

Archivarix on March 1, 2013 at 1:39 PM

How’s that magnificent idea working out for those young geniuses? Obama just released tens of thousands of illegals into the US workforce.

HotAirian on March 1, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Funny how a liberal who ran on a campaign of “hope and change” only gives hope to the welfare brigade and changes everything for the worse.

MelonCollie on March 1, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Our Mistakes? OUR MISTAKES?????

portlandon on March 1, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Sidebar: I think David Weigel had a fantastic idea over at Slate

Strike 2.

portlandon on March 1, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Between this, and AP’s love affair with any/everything Christie and Roobio……I’ve got a pounding headache and I’m already experiencing deja-vu for 2016.

They told us how great he’d be, and now they can tell us how bitter their tears taste. It’s schadenfreudig, were it not so tragic for the land.

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 1:11 PM

So true sir…so true. *sigh*

tencole on March 1, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Our mistakes started fifty years ago and have continued to this day, November 2012 was just the compilation of it. Liberals and liberalism now dominate the culture and yet conservatives still pretend we lose elections because of poor ad buys or messaging.

lowandslow on March 1, 2013 at 1:44 PM

I’m wondering how many of the idiots bashing Romney in this also backstabbed us all by not showing up to vote, as per their threats… Stop whining.

cicerone on March 1, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Our mistakes started fifty years ago and have continued to this day, November 2012 was just the compilation of it. Liberals and liberalism now dominate the culture and yet conservatives still pretend we lose elections because of poor ad buys or messaging.

lowandslow on March 1, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Thread winner. Discussion over.

Archivarix on March 1, 2013 at 1:45 PM

………..and then he rolled over, and essentially agreed with the President in the last two debates.

PappyD61 on March 1, 2013 at 1:11 PM

No arguing he could have been more aggressive, but remember: He didn’t even write a concession speech until about 9PM election evening. He was so convinced (either by his staff or polling) that he was winning that he didn’t feel the need to have one.

2 things could have happened:

Either his campaign team was not honest with him about his prospects, or Obama’s team managed to eek out those extra 300K votes that swung the election through nefarious means.

My bet is on nefarious.

can_con on March 1, 2013 at 1:46 PM

Let the RINO go work on Detroit.
If he fails, then the RINO supporters can go away.
If he succeeds, then he can prove he can turn a failed entity around. And the RINO supporters can still go away.

ChuckTX on March 1, 2013 at 1:48 PM

10′s of million people voted for him. 10′s of thousands attended a rally for him. Yet, in this corner of the right, the only acceptable comment is hate for a man who ran and, to the dismay of many, lost.

alice

bluealice on March 1, 2013 at 1:37 PM

“10′s of millions” voted against Obama…..not quite the same thing as voting “for” someone…..hence the loss.

tencole on March 1, 2013 at 1:48 PM

Thanks for proving my point. Pence won Indiana. So did Romney. Romney won it by a bigger margin. Pence is more conservative than Romney.

GOPRanknFile on March 1, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Indeed. The whole ‘when we run conservatives, we win’ is a great soundbite, but it’s also not true. Mia Love should be in Congress…yet, she lost a district that went for Romney by a mile.

changer1701 on March 1, 2013 at 1:50 PM

The hate here is strong still. Have I wondered onto the DU or Kos?
10′s of million people voted for him. 10′s of thousands attended a rally for him. Yet, in this corner of the right, the only acceptable comment is hate for a man who ran and, to the dismay of many, lost.

alice

bluealice on March 1, 2013 at 1:37 PM

You must not have been here during primary season when the only acceptable comment from Romneys most deranged cultists was hate for anybody who didn’t enthusiastically support their Stepford-candidate.

For some strange reason many of those cultists disappeared after their Precious lost. It’s almost as if they’re afraid to show their faces here after spending years telling us their “severely conservative” Precious was The Only One Who Can Beat Obama and viciously bashing and smearing anybody who disagreed or who they viewed as a threat to their Precious.

Walter Sobchak on March 1, 2013 at 1:51 PM

lowandslow on March 1, 2013 at 1:44 PM
Thread winner. Discussion over.

Archivarix on March 1, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Then 1980 +8 did not exist.

——-

although I assume you mean “moot.”
GOPRanknFile on March 1, 2013 at 1:38 PM

Yes, see my immediate correction, above.

Romney LOST.

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 1:59 PM

Then 1980 +8 did not exist.

So the economy expanded for a decade, so did the federal government and so did liberalism.

lowandslow on March 1, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Our Mistakes? OUR MISTAKES?????

portlandon on March 1, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Not coming up with better candidates, then jumping from candidate to candidate and allowing Gingrich and Santorum to attack Romney from the left were big mistakes. The anti-Romneys handed Romney the nomination on a silver platter.

Gelsomina on March 1, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Go away, Mitt.

You never should have run for our nomination because you never had any intention of winning.

Obama is not a “nice guy”. He isn’t a “smart guy”. He’s the jerk frontman puppet for malevolent forces that seek to remove the liberty from every American.

wildcat72 on March 1, 2013 at 12:47 PM

I knew when Mitts son/spokesman said in Hawaii “Obama is Great I don’t want to talk about him” we had no chance in 2012.

There is nothing Great about Obama except his ability to be Evil is Great.

You have to have a great offense to possibly win. Mitt had no offense to speak of. He never attacked Obama. But had no problem attacking in the Primaries. Mitt makes me ill.

Steveangell on March 1, 2013 at 2:07 PM

The way the campaign was run and finding out they were all full of crap with the “our ground game is outstanding” nonsense pissed me off. They screwed up yes but millions of people didn’t even vote who could have made the difference for Romney. Staying home and handing Obama a 2nd term was inexusable. In the end, a supremely decent and good man was treated like dirt by Obama and the media. They got away with painting Romney as the devil himself. Because of that alone, Mitt should be afforded the right to give a damn interview.

KateNE on March 1, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Not coming up with better candidates, then jumping from candidate to candidate and allowing Gingrich and Santorum to attack Romney from the left were big mistakes. The anti-Romneys handed Romney the nomination on a silver platter.

Gelsomina on March 1, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Yes rewrite history. Romney never attacked any Republicans.

GOPe got their candidate now the GOPe is hated by 90% of the GOP unfortunately few of them are in leadership or elected office.

I and many others no longer consider ourselves Republican. We really want a new Conservative Party. We are sick of Rove, Priebus, Romney, Christie, Bush (all Bush), McCain Boehner and the list goes on. They all stink on ice and are all the DNC’s best friends and the bases enemies.

Steveangell on March 1, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Not coming up with better candidates, then jumping from candidate to candidate and allowing Gingrich and Santorum to attack Romney from the left were big mistakes. The anti-Romneys handed Romney the nomination on a silver platter.

Gelsomina on March 1, 2013 at 2:05 PM

The Earth is flat.

If Mitt would have fought Obama as he did the others he’d have won.

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 2:14 PM

Pence won.

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 1:24 PM

But here are some facts:

Romney performed better than Tommy Thompson (Wisconsin), George Allen (Virginia), Ted Cruz (Texas), Deb Fisher (Nebraska), Josh Mandel (Ohio), Jeff Flake (Arizona), Pete Hoekstra (Michigan), Connie Mack (Florida), Rick Berg (North Dakota), Richard Mourdock (Indiana), Denny Rehberg (Montana), Tod Akin (Missouri).

And that’s only the Senate.

The entire GOP did worse than Romney – the moderates AND the conservatives.

Gelsomina on March 1, 2013 at 2:16 PM

H/t to dear Gelsomina

Lieber ein Ende mit Schrecken als ein Schrecken ohne Ende

Better an horrific end than horror without an end

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 2:17 PM

In the end, a supremely decent and good man was treated like dirt by Obama and the media. They got away with painting Romney as the devil himself. Because of that alone, Mitt should be afforded the right to give a damn interview.

KateNE on March 1, 2013 at 2:07 PM

I am sorry but there is nothing good or decent about a man that runs for President with no intention of wining. A man who runs against the worst President in history but thinks he is Great.

No Romney is is as the devil himself. Sorry to break the news to you.

This was well known all one needed to do is check his record in Mass. He after all is the father of Obama Care. He raised taxes through fees through the roof. He never accomplished a single conservative thing in office. He moved from his home State of three years Utah very late in the game to run in Mass for Governor so no excuses about him being in a blue state that was by choice.

Steveangell on March 1, 2013 at 2:17 PM

Gelsomina on March 1, 2013 at 2:16 PM

So what? Romney lost and Obama is Lilliputian in Chief.

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 2:18 PM

I’m wondering how many of the idiots bashing Romney in this also backstabbed us all by not showing up to vote, as per their threats… Stop whining.

cicerone on March 1, 2013 at 1:45 PM

You talk like a Democrat calling names instead of making your argument.

Not only did I show up to vote, I got my husband, who always votes Libertarian as a protest vote, to vote Romney. I got two of my uninterested 20 something children to show up and vote for Romney. I even sent that wishy-washy some cash after the first debate. Get over yourself. You got the candidate you wanted. Stop whining, yourself.

We swallowed our pride and values and turned out to vote for Romney even after being insulted and chided by Mittbotts, that we will vote for Mitt and we will like it. Take a walk, buster.

“He wanted to be president less than anyone I’ve met in my life.”

Fallon on March 1, 2013 at 2:18 PM

Yes, see my immediate correction, above.

Romney LOST.

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 1:59 PM

Critical analysis is clearly your strong suit. /s

GOPRanknFile on March 1, 2013 at 2:19 PM

But here are some facts:

Romney performed better than Tommy Thompson (Wisconsin), George Allen (Virginia), Ted Cruz (Texas), Deb Fisher (Nebraska), Josh Mandel (Ohio), Jeff Flake (Arizona), Pete Hoekstra (Michigan), Connie Mack (Florida), Rick Berg (North Dakota), Richard Mourdock (Indiana), Denny Rehberg (Montana), Tod Akin (Missouri).

And that’s only the Senate.

The entire GOP did worse than Romney – the moderates AND the conservatives.

Gelsomina on March 1, 2013 at 2:16 PM

Your facts only matter to people who are willing to come out of the bubble once in a while.

GOPRanknFile on March 1, 2013 at 2:20 PM

I and many others no longer consider ourselves Republican. We really want a new Conservative Party. We are sick of Rove, Priebus, Romney, Christie, Bush (all Bush), McCain Boehner and the list goes on. They all stink on ice and are all the DNC’s best friends and the bases enemies.

Steveangell on March 1, 2013 at 2:12 PM

If you really wanted a third party, you would have started to create one. You had enough time.

Gelsomina on March 1, 2013 at 2:20 PM

I’m wondering how many of the idiots bashing Romney in this also backstabbed us all by not showing up to vote, as per their threats… Stop whining.

cicerone on March 1, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Most of us did vote for the lesser of the two weasels. Those who did what you claim, may Obama destroy you all. At least Romney loves his land and doesn’t aim to destroy her.

On the “whining”. It’s not at all whining; the truth hurts.

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Your facts only matter to people who are willing to come out of the bubble once in a while.

GOPRanknFile on March 1, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Heh, because your “facts” and your “bubble” are better.

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 2:21 PM

GOPRanknFile on March 1, 2013 at 2:19 PM

You’re not very observant. Plus, good sarcasm never needs a tag :)

Schadenfreude on March 1, 2013 at 2:22 PM

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