Reason-Rupe poll shows majority approves path to citizenship, oppose targeted drone killings of Americans

posted at 6:01 pm on March 1, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Alternate headline: Libertarian organization polls voters, finds libertarian results. Only that may be more surprising than you might guess, especially looking at the sample, which had a D/R/I of 34/23/34, with independents split evenly in leaners between the two parties and no leaners at all.  One might have expected a little more support for Barack Obama and his policies in such a sample, but in fact the Reason/Rupe poll is an outlier on his approval rating these days, showing the President back under water at 47/49.

Besides, it’s becoming apparent that the opposition to the application of drone strikes targeted on American citizens isn’t just for libertarians any longer:

A majority of Americans, 57 percent, believe it is unconstitutional for the president of the United States to order the killing of American citizens who are suspected of being terrorists, a new Reason-Rupe poll finds. Just 31 percent think it is constitutional for the president to order the killing of American citizens suspected of being terrorists.

Even more, 59 percent, say they are concerned “the government may abuse its power” when it comes to using drone strikes on American citizens who are suspected of being terrorists.

As the use of drones by domestic law enforcement agencies grows, 60 percent of Americans are now concerned that their local police departments might invade their privacy with the use of drones.

The public is split, 47-47, on whether or not they “should have the right to destroy” a drone that is taking pictures or videos of their home.

In the detailed tables provided by Reason/Rupe, opposition to assassination programs rises to about two-thirds for both Republicans and independents, but is only a narrow plurality among Democrats, 44/40.  One has to wonder how this would have looked in a poll during the Bush administration.  I’d wager that independents probably would have been consistent, but that Republicans and Democrats would have flipped positions in this split.

How about immigration?  Once again, the more libertarian position seems to be ascendant:

Fifty-five percent of those surveyed say unauthorized immigrants currently living in the United States should be allowed to stay in the country and apply for citizenship.  Twenty-seven percent say unauthorized immigrants should be deported.

However, that’s not  just a libertarian position.  More Republicans favor a path to citizenship (41%) than deportation of any kind (35%).  Combined with two other intermediate positions — guest worker permits and non-citizen permanent residence — 61% of Republicans favor some sort of normalization for illegal immigrants.

On the proposal to increase the federal minimum wage, the libertarian position take a beating, though … at least at first.  Two-thirds of all respondents (66%) favor increasing the floor to $9 per hour, Obama’s proposed level, with 88% of Democrats and 62% of independents agreeing.  Republicans oppose the idea by a wide margin, 39/58.  However, when asked whether that support continues if it raises unemployment, the numbers flip to 37/56 overall, and only Democrats favor it at 53/40; Republican opposition rises to 17/80, and independents switch to strong opposition at 36/57.  Respondents split on their expectations of the outcome, with 42% expecting it to reduce jobs and 41% believing it will have no impact (only 13% believe it will increase jobs).  If the opposition to this proposal is to succeed, it will have to make the clear-cut case that it will cost jobs, especially at the bottom end of the scale.

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I never pay any attention to Reason polls. I could tell you the results without even looking.

Mark1971 on March 1, 2013 at 6:03 PM

D+11
lol…. good ole days. After amnesty polls will have to be D+22

El_Terrible on March 1, 2013 at 6:05 PM

Only that may be more surprising than you might guess, especially looking at the sample, which had a D/R/I of 34/23/34, with independents split evenly in leaners between the two parties and no leaners at all.

it seems Ed didn’t learn his lesson about poll analysis after the last election.

red_herring on March 1, 2013 at 6:07 PM

I hate Reason. They have never met a murderer they didn’t love and are willing to lie for.

Blake on March 1, 2013 at 6:09 PM

They even appear on RT, aka Russia Today, aka as Pravda lite.

Blake on March 1, 2013 at 6:11 PM

I hate Reason just about as much as alien invaders.

Mr. Arrogant on March 1, 2013 at 6:14 PM

I sure as hell would not have switched sides with Bush doing this. I know what is good for the goose is good for the gander. In other words. Once precedent is set, it is impossible to contain it.

astonerii on March 1, 2013 at 6:15 PM

hey joe citizen, you also get topick up the tab for pablo and maria’s health insurance. whaddya think about illegal immigration now?

renalin on March 1, 2013 at 6:18 PM

it seems Ed didn’t learn his lesson about poll analysis after the last election.

red_herring on March 1, 2013 at 6:07 PM

My thoughts exactly.

Stoic Patriot on March 1, 2013 at 6:24 PM

Reason-Rupe poll shows majority approves path to citizenship, oppose targeted drone killings of Americans

Agenda driven polling?…………..naaaaahhh, couldn’t be.

At this point, polls could come out and report Americans believe the moon is made of cheese and I’d think a majority of the voters are really that stupid.

Asking about immigration reform or almost any issue is crazy because most people don’t even know what the names of the states are along the border.

How many people on the street interviews have you heard where they can’t even name the Vice President or Speaker of the House?

PappyD61 on March 1, 2013 at 6:39 PM

In 2007, Gallup had similar numbers: 59% supporting a path to citizenship and 25% supporting deportation And yet amnesty was defeated that year after a huge public backlash.

Jon0815 on March 1, 2013 at 6:42 PM

Ed is back to analysing polls, how did that work out in the last election?

celticdefender on March 1, 2013 at 6:43 PM

Foolish earthli – er, gringos.

Seth Halpern on March 1, 2013 at 6:45 PM

I’ll bet the Obama Campaign/SRM could convince at least a plurality of people that the Republicans are responsible for the drone strike executions.

forest on March 1, 2013 at 6:55 PM

We already have a path to citizenship in this country. It’s that the illegals want to bypass that system.

chewmeister on March 1, 2013 at 7:13 PM

I would love to ask the following as a follow up to the illegal immigrant question: ” if you think the Constitutional rules on citizenship should be ignored, do you also believe we can ignore the 16th Amendment tax rules….?”

devan95 on March 1, 2013 at 7:40 PM

Our privacy is already invaded. Think Google. Think that police helicopter going by overhead.

Solution: Draw your blinds and realize that everything you do otherwise is subject to public scrutiny.

unclesmrgol on March 1, 2013 at 7:59 PM

How’s that black teenager unemployment rate again, and why do Democrats want to increase it?

unclesmrgol on March 1, 2013 at 8:02 PM

However, that’s not just a libertarian position. More Republicans favor a path to citizenship (41%) than deportation of any kind (35%).

That’s pretty freakin’ close….a lot closer than the 2 to 1 libertarian poll. Good try at conflating the two though.

xblade on March 1, 2013 at 8:26 PM

Fifty-five percent of those surveyed say unauthorized immigrants currently living in the United States should be allowed to stay in the country and apply for citizenship. Twenty-seven percent say unauthorized immigrants should be deported.

Yet another false dichotomy — I’m getting so tired of these disingenuous open-borders fanatics publishing FAKE POLLS!

If they don’t ask the question offering ALL the choices, they get FAKE RESULTS!!! The poll offers 3 variations of staying, one for deportation, but NONE for attrition through law enforcement.

These polls never offer attrition through enforcement — the MOST POPULAR policy. As in THIS POLL.

fred5678 on March 1, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Being suspected is one thing. Caught in the act and killed is another. Had Al Awlaki surrendered he should have gotten a proper trial with evidence presented. He scoffed at the idea of arrest and went on working with the enemy. So his case is not a good one to take up. He was killed in the act as it were.

But the way the question is worded I’d have to go with the majority opinion. The question was too narrow.

No, POTUS does not have the right to arbitrarily kill or order the death of any US citizen just on suspicion. He has the duty to obtain an arrest warrant, publish it, make sure the proposed arrestee is aware of the warrant, and then deal with practical terms of arresting the person. If the person is found while involved in an illegal act that is expected to harm others, stop him with any means available even if it’s a bomb from a Predator drone.

This is an example of tuning your questions to get the answers you want in a poll. This is why I dust off pollsters on the phone, often with threats to crawl through the phone, and rip their throats out. (I don’t take kindly to telephone interruptions when I am working. And I’m always working.)

{^_^}

herself on March 2, 2013 at 6:32 AM