Alabama passes school vouchers for students at failing schools, Dems erupt

posted at 12:01 pm on March 1, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Did they erupt in joy for the children who now have a real opportunity to choose success over failure?  Er, not exactly:

Republicans dropped a legislative bombshell tonight as they slammed through a dramatically revamped education bill that will give tax credits for families at “failing schools” to send their children to private school or another public school.

Lawmakers voted mid-day to send a school flexibility bill — that would let school systems seek waivers from some policies — to conference committee. The conference committee reported a dramatically different bill that included the flexibility measures plus what some lawmakers called school vouchers.

Republicans heralded it as a historic day for education and life-altering for children stuck in poorly performing schools. But tempers boiled over as Democrats called the maneuver “sleaziness” and a “bait and switch.”

Governor Robert Bentley insisted that this represented a step forward for children whose choices had been restricted to just the failing schools in the government education monopoly prior to the passage of the bill, which Bentley will sign next week:

The reaction on the state senate floor can be heard here, although it’s not easy to follow except to note the anger over the change in the bill.  “We’re going to help children in this state!” says one of the bill’s backers, over the repeated chant of “Point of order!” from one of its opponents.

Democrats in the legislature accused Republicans of “sleaziness” in pushing the school choice option for students in failing schools:

The move drew outrage from Democrats who said the plan was evidently in the works for some time.

“I’ve never seen such sleaziness,” Rep. Thomas Jackson, D-Thomasville, said.

And consider the race card tossed:

Rep. Mary Moore, D-Birmingham, as she was leaving the House chamber threw her hands over her head and shouted, “Welcome to the new confederacy where a bunch of white men are now going to take over black schools.”

Well, if the “black schools” are where students are failing, wouldn’t that set the black students free of that failure?  Isn’t that supposed to be a good thing?  Why wouldn’t we want to give those students the same chance at success as other children in the state, rather than leave them locked into failing state-run institutions?

Our tipster on this story noted that the teachers union managed to block a more limited school-choice bill last year in Alabama, which is probably why the state GOP held their cards closer to the vest this time.  If Alabama voters agree that this was a sleazy maneuver, and the argument can certainly be made, then Republicans will suffer the consequences in the next election.  If, however, the parents of those children locked into failing schools value the educational possibilities for their children over the needs of the teachers union and the Democrats, the state GOP will reap a harvest of new voters.  I suspect that the latter will be much more true than the former.


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Good for Alabama. Good for Alabama’s kids.

gophergirl on March 1, 2013 at 12:02 PM

Good result, but if the tables were turned I would question the process they did this. Conference committee shouldn’t return a severely different bill.

Zaggs on March 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM

Democrats proclaim, “What about the children?”, who they have held hostage.

astonerii on March 1, 2013 at 12:05 PM

Loyalty to the Democratic-sponsored life on the dole is more important to the Dems than seeing these young people excel in life.

kingsjester on March 1, 2013 at 12:06 PM

I expect nothing less from totally ignorant, marxist, entitlement addicted democrats. Black and white….. no pun intended

ultracon on March 1, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Good result, but if the tables were turned I would question the process they did this. Conference committee shouldn’t return a severely different bill.

Zaggs on March 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM

We’ve been burned so many times by the same or similar tactics by Dems, so I can’t muster much objection when the shoe’s on the other foot. I say good for them, and good for those kids who now have a choice.

changer1701 on March 1, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Good result, but if the tables were turned I would question the process they did this. Conference committee shouldn’t return a severely different bill.

Zaggs on March 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM

I’m basically through playing fair with the Dems. Every dirty trick in the book should be utilized. It is long past time for us to be using these kinds of tactics.

Doomberg on March 1, 2013 at 12:07 PM

“I’ve never seen such sleaziness,” Rep. Thomas Jackson, D-Thomasville, said.

Didn’t follow the passage of Obamacare?

forest on March 1, 2013 at 12:08 PM

Democrats nationwide will be furious. Any state that might show the rottenness of the government education monopoly must be destroyed.

iconoclast on March 1, 2013 at 12:08 PM

“I’ve never seen such sleaziness,” Rep. Thomas Jackson, D-Thomasville, said.

That’s rich. Check out Obama, Reed and Pelosi.

Rep. Mary Moore, D-Birmingham, as she was leaving the House chamber threw her hands over her head and shouted, “Welcome to the new confederacy where a bunch of white men are now going to take over black schools.”

Never heard that before.

arnold ziffel on March 1, 2013 at 12:09 PM

Time to fight the leftists bastards at every turn, every hill, every mountain and molehill.
No quarter given!! FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT – your children’s and grand children’s future is at steak.

redguy on March 1, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Rep. Mary Moore, D-Birmingham, as she was leaving the House chamber threw her hands over her head and shouted, “Welcome to the new confederacy where a bunch of white men are now going to take over black schools.”

Well, if the “black schools” are where students are failing, wouldn’t that set the black students free of that failure? Isn’t that supposed to be a good thing? Why wouldn’t we want to give those students the same chance at success as other children in the state, rather than leave them locked into failing state-run institutions?

Because the narrative is set for Section 5. Whoever this rep is, she isn’t stupid. She understands the broader picture. She is using this to push the idea that there is still racism in Alabama politics, so you better keep Section 5 in the Voting Rights Act in place. She’s giving the liberal justices fodder.

ButterflyDragon on March 1, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Good result, but if the tables were turned I would question the process they did this. Conference committee shouldn’t return a severely different bill.

Zaggs on March 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM

“Severely” is a weasel word. If a committee is permitted to alter a bill’s text at all, they should have the freedom to alter it as they wish — after all, the legislature as a whole still has to vote on the bill.

As for the tables being turned, remember Obamacare — which isn’t anything like what passed through Congress, since the part of the iceberg not showing are the regulations built by the executive.

unclesmrgol on March 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM

“I’ve never seen such sleaziness,” Rep. Thomas Jackson, D-Thomasville, said.

We haven’t either since the first string did Obamacare.

docflash on March 1, 2013 at 12:13 PM

I’m basically through playing fair with the Dems. Every dirty trick in the book should be utilized. It is long past time for us to be using these kinds of tactics.

Doomberg on March 1, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Amen!

Fenris on March 1, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Dems – Why do you hate kids so much?
Dems – Why do you want to keep kids uneducated?

dentarthurdent on March 1, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Democrats are racist and their reaction to this bill simply sheds light on that darkness. It is a real problem for the left when they lose control of their plantation. Good for Alabama.

Ellis on March 1, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Good result, but if the tables were turned I would question the process they did this. Conference committee shouldn’t return a severely different bill.

Zaggs on March 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM

We’ve been burned so many times by the same or similar tactics by Dems, so I can’t muster much objection when the shoe’s on the other foot. I say good for them, and good for those kids who now have a choice.

changer1701 on March 1, 2013 at 12:07 PM

In Honor of Andrew Breitbart I guess we could bring back one of his favorite mantras: They Started It.

RightWay79 on March 1, 2013 at 12:14 PM

“I’ve never seen such sleaziness,” Rep. Thomas Jackson, D-Thomasville, said.

Sure you have – but it’s always been Dems doing it.

dentarthurdent on March 1, 2013 at 12:14 PM

It would be interesting to know how many Democrats in the Alabama legislature send their children to private schools.

Curtiss on March 1, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Bravo Alabama!

rplat on March 1, 2013 at 12:15 PM

The problem is, black parents – for whom the law literally means a lifeline to their children in failing urban schools – will unerringly vote for Obama and Democrats anyway.

Archivarix on March 1, 2013 at 12:16 PM

Good result, but if the tables were turned I would question the process they did this. Conference committee shouldn’t return a severely different bill.Zaggs on March 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM

True but in this case, the good ends justify the means. And if the means pass Alabama’s supreme court challenge all the better when fighting the donks’ dirty tricks.

AH_C on March 1, 2013 at 12:16 PM

* I live in the state capital of Alabama
* Our school system is a joke
* I have a little girl about to turn 2 and another coming in April

All of these things make the passage of this bill a very welcome thing.

RightWay79 on March 1, 2013 at 12:16 PM

Democrats nationwide will be furious. Any state that might show the rottenness of the government education monopoly must be destroyed.

iconoclast on March 1, 2013 at 12:08 PM

Indeed. I expect there will be add campaigns financed by naitonal teacher’s unions, money pouring in to state legislature campaigns to oust R’s, and MSM attacks galore.

iurockhead on March 1, 2013 at 12:17 PM

Note the emphasis on sleazy as opposed to illegal.

AH_C on March 1, 2013 at 12:17 PM

Better yet, why not de-fund those failing schools, or perhaps tie in those government checks to the failing parents…oops parent(?) to improvement in school grades?

Don L on March 1, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Good for Alabama.

workingclass artist on March 1, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Teacher’s unions apply more testicular pressure on their hack surrogates, who in turn howl loudly. Predictable.

LizardLips on March 1, 2013 at 12:19 PM

The problem is, black parents – for whom the law literally means a lifeline to their children in failing urban schools – will unerringly vote for Obama and Democrats anyway.

Archivarix on March 1, 2013 at 12:16 PM

And if we keep sending them to crap schools, the next generation will vote for the next generation Obama.

Fenris on March 1, 2013 at 12:19 PM

“Welcome to the new confederacy where a bunch of white men are now going to take over black schools.”

Yup, you folks are doing such a fine upstanding job, aren’t you? Blame the white man for your own failure every time. The intent to imply slave masters is pure deflection.

Don L on March 1, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Rep. Mary Moore, D-Birmingham, as she was leaving the House chamber threw her hands over her head and shouted, “Welcome to the new confederacy where a bunch of white men are now going to take over black schools.”

No one’s taking over your black schools. We just think they shouldn’t be black prisons.

Ronnie on March 1, 2013 at 12:21 PM

I’m basically through playing fair with the Dems. Every dirty trick in the book should be utilized. It is long past time for us to be using these kinds of tactics.

Doomberg on March 1, 2013 at 12:07 PM

THIS.

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on March 1, 2013 at 12:21 PM

And if we keep sending them to crap schools, the next generation will vote for the next generation Obama.

Fenris on March 1, 2013 at 12:19 PM

Generously assuming that there will be elections to vote in when they grow up, they will vote for him regardless. Haven’t you heard? Obama is black!

Archivarix on March 1, 2013 at 12:22 PM

How dare the GOP give black kids a better shot at education! How dare the GOP empower black parents with freedom and choice! The GOP is racist for not keeping black kids in failing schools!

Weight of Glory on March 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Every GOP legislator should be telling his or her black constituents in the next campaign, “Hey, I got your kids out of that lousy school. My opponent wants to return them to that school. I will stand by your decision in this election.”

BuckeyeSam on March 1, 2013 at 12:25 PM

“Welcome to the new confederacy where a bunch of white men are now going to take over black schools.”

If blacks schools result in this kind of incoherence, closing them down is better than taking them over.

I say free black children from Ignorance Plantation!

Dusty on March 1, 2013 at 12:26 PM

The real question is which private schools will get these students. The problem here in Tennessee in getting a voucher program started is that all the best private schools have dramatically raised their tuition far beyond the worth of the proposed voucher and have basically made clear that they don’t want any voucher students. The only schools with low enough tuition to be covered by the vouchers are the worst private schools.

HayekFriendlyCon on March 1, 2013 at 12:27 PM

If, however, the parents of those children locked into failing schools value the educational possibilities for their children over the needs of the teachers union and the Democrats, the state GOP will reap a harvest of new voters.

1. Parents of those failing schools will either not notice or not care about the vouchers

2. They will continue to vote as they are instructed to by their community organizers.

Who loses? The chiddrens.

BobMbx on March 1, 2013 at 12:27 PM

And if we keep sending them to crap schools, the next generation will vote for the next generation Obama.

Fenris on March 1, 2013 at 12:19 PM

Careful not to blame the chef for being unable to make a nice meal with spoiled fruit. The fatherless “blame whitey” culture has its own consequences and the’re not pretty. Perhaps adopting some middle class values as goals would help you, help yourselves, instead of dissing them at every turn?

Don L on March 1, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Good result, but if the tables were turned I would question the process they did this. Conference committee shouldn’t return a severely different bill.

HUh? That’s what conference committees do.. they take the bills brought to them, hammer them into an acceptable format for both sides of the legislature… and then ship them back out.

DaSaintFan on March 1, 2013 at 12:27 PM

I’m basically through playing fair with the Dems. Every dirty trick in the book should be utilized. It is long past time for us to be using these kinds of tactics.

Doomberg on March 1, 2013 at 12:07 PM

I agree and this approach is much better than having to climb down into the gutter to fight it out with them because even if we win, we lose.

Dusty on March 1, 2013 at 12:29 PM

government education monopoly

This is what we should be calling public schools at every opportunity. Same thing for Obamacare tax. We need to use accurate phrasing that the masses will understand.

hopeful on March 1, 2013 at 12:31 PM

I want my money back so I can send my kids to whatever school I want.

This is an essential fight we can and must win. School choice!

GardenGnome on March 1, 2013 at 12:32 PM

It seems Blacks are having the biggest problem with the though of Blacks getting an education ranked a little higher than 49th (or whatever Alabama is at.)

Does garbage like Thomas Jackson and Mary Moore benefit, by keeping other Blacks stupid for life?

MNHawk on March 1, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Zaggs on March 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM

Obamacare without the staggering costs to the citizenry and the possibility that the children won’t be illiterate. Let’s pray that it works.

Cindy Munford on March 1, 2013 at 12:34 PM

Just a few years back, while reading a report on Birmingham-area high schools’ test scores, I realized that for one of the schools the students averaged a score of 18% correct on the test. The test was made up of multiple-choice questions, each with five possible answers. True story.

Knott Buyinit on March 1, 2013 at 12:35 PM

The only schools with low enough tuition to be covered by the vouchers are the worst private schools.

HayekFriendlyCon on March 1, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Are those “worst” private schools better than the public schools?

WisRich on March 1, 2013 at 12:35 PM

[BobMbx on March 1, 2013 at 12:27 PM]

Not all will either not notice or not care. What we are looking for is the opportunity to allow a cascade effect and there are all sorts of pressures released doing this which allows the cascade effect to work.

Dusty on March 1, 2013 at 12:36 PM

Government schools are failures by design. The last thing government union teachers want to produce are citizens who will think critically.

wildcat72 on March 1, 2013 at 12:37 PM

Republican solution – fix the problem or move the kids to an environment where they will be able to learn.

Democrat solution – throw even more money down the drain trying to keep losing institutions on the public dole while ignoring the impact on the students.

HoosierStateofMind on March 1, 2013 at 12:37 PM

Are those “worst” private schools better than the public schools?

WisRich on March 1, 2013 at 12:35 PM

Catholic schools tend to be the least expensive private schools and are amongst the very best. I graduated from one.

wildcat72 on March 1, 2013 at 12:38 PM

“Welcome to the new confederacy where a bunch of white men are now going to take over black schools.”

1. The closest you’ve ever come to a “new confederacy” is seeing some wingnut Neo-Confederate loon’s comment on a website. And should one actually form, they wouldn’t enslave your worthless hide, they’d just shoot you and raise the collective IQ of continent.

2. The white men will do a better job of running the disaster areas you call ‘schools’, you know it, I know it, and you know I know it.

3. I’m not interested in complaints from someone who could take lessons in fathering and raising their children from a pack of timber wolves</strong.

Dumb and Dumber had nothing on this pork-faced whiner.

MelonCollie on March 1, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Southern Democrats still standing in the shool doorway. At one time to keep black children from entering; now to keep them from leaving.

And the ‘house negros’ keep supporting the Democrat party????

patch on March 1, 2013 at 12:38 PM

1. The closest you’ve ever come to a “new confederacy” is seeing some wingnut Neo-Confederate loon’s comment on a website. And should one actually form, they wouldn’t enslave your worthless hide, they’d just shoot you and raise the collective IQ of continent.

2. The white men will do a better job of running the disaster areas you call ‘schools’, you know it, I know it, and you know I know it.

3. I’m not interested in complaints from someone who could take lessons in fathering and raising their children from a pack of timber wolves</strong.

Dumb and Dumber had nothing on this pork-faced whiner.

MelonCollie on March 1, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Does any rational person think, for one minute, that after DC defaults on the debt (and given the current hysterical antics on the not even a scratch in the deficit sequester debt holders SHOULD BE CALLING THEIR NOTES NOW) that the “Red States”, most of which are themselves solvent will meekly hang around rather than form their own Union?

I sure hope they don’t stick around. DC is living high on the hog right now, having insulated itself from what is going on everywhere else but it’s day of reckoning is coming. When DC looks like Detroit in 10 years I won’t shed a tear.

wildcat72 on March 1, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Republican solution – fix the problem or move the kids to an environment where they will be able to learn.

Democrat solution – throw even more money down the drain trying to keep losing institutions on the public dole while ignoring the impact on the students.

HoosierStateofMind on March 1, 2013 at 12:37 PM

Public education is the biggest scam outside the Obama Regime itself, ever perpetuated on the taxpayer.

They fail by design, and hide behind children as human shields to blackmail more money from the public.

Where does that money go? Mostly to the democrat party. You see, more money means more NEA/AFT employees which means more union dues siphoned off to the democrat party.

No one cares LESS about what students learn in these schools than the NEA and AFT.

wildcat72 on March 1, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Catholic schools tend to be the least expensive private schools and are amongst the very best. I graduated from one.

wildcat72 on March 1, 2013 at 12:38 PM

as did I for 12 years. I paid my own way through high school by working entire summers. The public school system is a joke and only produces mediocrity which is exactly what the liberals want…

RedInMD on March 1, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Good result, but if the tables were turned I would question the process they did this. Conference committee shouldn’t return a severely different bill.

Zaggs on March 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM

We keep saying that the republicans need to stop playing by Marquis de Queenesbury rules so we should be glad that they are playing by the democrats’s rules. Dems aren’t po’d by the fact that rules chicanery was used. They are po’d because it was the republicans who did it this time.

Teachers’ unions are unhappy that their minions in the government weren’t able to avert this attack on the union’s near monopoly. That makes me smile.

AZfederalist on March 1, 2013 at 12:45 PM

I won’t form an opinion until I hear Joe and Mika’s take tomorrow.

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BacaDog on March 1, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Alabama passes school vouchers for students at failing schools, Dems erupt

None of this matters…..Maxine Waters told me
170,000,000 people will lose their jobs due to
Sh*tcastration!!

We’re all DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEDDDDDDD!!!!

And that would include ALABAMA!!

ToddPA on March 1, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Rep. Mary Moore, D-Birmingham, as she was leaving the House chamber threw her hands over her head and shouted,

“Welcome to the new confederacy where a bunch of white men are now going to take over black schools.”

Translated: “Them honkies is racist!”

Any New Confederacy most likely will be Gulf South and Southeastern states realizing that the regime, Just-Us and Supreme Court have so totally and irreversibly bastardized the Constitution that it is easier to separate to form a more perfect union.

viking01 on March 1, 2013 at 12:46 PM

1. Parents of those failing schools will either not notice or not care about the vouchers

BobMbx on March 1, 2013 at 12:27 PM

I can’t speak for Alabama, but here in Chicago that is not true. There are parents desperately trying to get their kids out of the bad schools here…

visions on March 1, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Does any rational person think, for one minute, that after DC defaults on the debt (and given the current hysterical antics on the not even a scratch in the deficit sequester debt holders SHOULD BE CALLING THEIR NOTES NOW) that the “Red States”, most of which are themselves solvent will meekly hang around rather than form their own Union?

wildcat72 on March 1, 2013 at 12:41 PM

I fully expect someone to at least try. Texas will be a big key if not the starting point. The result will largely depend on two things: how much of the US military sides with them, and how fast/competent the loyalist response is.

If, for instance, Obama rains cruise missiles on every military installation and most of the civilian infrastructure 5 minutes after the former governor of TX announces its independence, it won’t get very d@mn far.

But frankly there’s just so many scenerios I can’t even begin to wargame them all, much less here in the comments.

MelonCollie on March 1, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Generously assuming that there will be elections to vote in when they grow up, they will vote for him regardless. Haven’t you heard? Obama is black!

Archivarix on March 1, 2013 at 12:22 PM

Rage, rage against the dying of the light

Fenris on March 1, 2013 at 12:48 PM

“Welcome to the new confederacy where a bunch of white men are now going to take over black schools.”

Um, in the confederacy, it was illegal to educate black children.

Odysseus on March 1, 2013 at 12:57 PM

If, for instance, Obama rains cruise missiles on every military installation and most of the civilian infrastructure 5 minutes after the former governor of TX announces its independence, it won’t get very d@mn far.

But frankly there’s just so many scenerios I can’t even begin to wargame them all, much less here in the comments.

MelonCollie on March 1, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Any president who orders cruise missiles rained down on American civilians should get a bullet in his back from his own detail before he’s done giving the order.

Every person who has taken the oath would be obligated to do so. Enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC…

If the government defaults on it’s debt, it will be in a far weaker position than fiscally strong states (such as Texas). With what will DC pay the “loyalist” military?

Frankly, that’s why I don’t understand why Obama is so blind with respect to getting the fiscal house in order. Doing by raising taxes alone is INSANE. It’s not even possible, not even remotely possible. Spending HAS to be cut, in real dollars, not just in rate of increase.

By locking itself on a course for fiscal broke, DC is consigning itself to the dustbin of history!

wildcat72 on March 1, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Birmingham Publik Skools recently announced the planned closure of about four more gummint skools.

I’ve heard that many parents in Birmingham have rented apartments in the civilized suburbs to enable their children to attend competent schools where (according to Rep. Mary Moore D- Birmingham) those evil whiteys are running things.

viking01 on March 1, 2013 at 12:59 PM

Um, in the confederacy, it was illegal to educate black children.

Odysseus on March 1, 2013 at 12:57 PM

In today’s “Union” it’s illegal to educate ANY children.

Indoctrination isn’t education…

wildcat72 on March 1, 2013 at 12:59 PM

Catholic schools tend to be the least expensive private schools and are amongst the very best. I graduated from one.

wildcat72 on March 1, 2013 at 12:38 PM

As are Lutheran elementary and secondary schools. I graduated from one of the elementary schools. Lord willing our son will graduate from a Lutheran High School next year.

In either case, these aren’t just good educational opportunities, the environment is far superior to that of the government run schools. Common sense and appropriate discipline are applied rather than a one size fits all Ero tolerance mindless approach. At least that has been our experience.

AZfederalist on March 1, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Um, in the confederacy, it was illegal to educate black children.

Odysseus on March 1, 2013 at 12:57 PM

The irony was that one of the reasons the actual racists used to justify this was that it was a complete waste of time.

Fast-forward to the present day where the average black “high school graduate” is possibly functionally illiterate.

That, folks, is some bitter irony. Decades of heartbreaking work by civil rights marchers, over a CENTURY of painful progress with more than a few martyrs along the way…all so LaShandra can slouch in her chair and tell her classmate “you actin’ too white!”

MelonCollie on March 1, 2013 at 1:02 PM

There is only one thing the teacher’s union thugs are looking at with these vouchers. The more parents that pull their kids out of the failing schools, with the vouchers, the less government money the schools receive.

Don’t be fooled, the Union thuggery is PO’d about the potential loss of government kool aid.

The Socialists are PO’d at the thought that they may have fewer chilren to indoctrinate. And don’t forget many of the Union thuggery ARE ALSO Socialists, so they’re double PO’d now.

Meople on March 1, 2013 at 1:02 PM

1. Parents of those failing schools will either not notice or not care about the vouchers

BobMbx on March 1, 2013 at 12:27 PM

I can’t speak for Alabama, but here in Chicago that is not true. There are parents desperately trying to get their kids out of the bad schools here…

visions on March 1, 2013 at 12:46 PM

As did those able to use the D.C. School voucher program that the NEA got obummer to kill. Can’t have those poor d.c. Black kids getting educated you know, they might want tip escape the democrat plantation if the were to do so.

AZfederalist on March 1, 2013 at 1:04 PM

Democrats: WHAT ABOUT OUR HOSTAGES THE CHILDREN?!?!

Good Lt on March 1, 2013 at 1:05 PM

Any president who orders cruise missiles rained down on American civilians should get a bullet in his back from his own detail before he’s done giving the order.

Every person who has taken the oath would be obligated to do so. Enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC…

wildcat72 on March 1, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Keep dreaming, pal. The Secret Service would have had every right to detain Obama on his way to the inauguration ceremony and tell the public that they were not allowed to elect an unabashed Communist. They didn’t.

The military has had a laundry list of reasons that we know of and at least as many that we don’t to toss Obama in jail as an outright traitor and Biden in a mental institution for equally obvious reasons so hard they bounce.

MelonCollie on March 1, 2013 at 1:10 PM

The only schools with low enough tuition to be covered by the vouchers are the worst private schools.

HayekFriendlyCon on March 1, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Are you saying that the private schools are charging more than the per capita for students? Because Public Education ain’t cheap….

And I think you’ll discover that in MOST areas, that a Catholic school charges LESS than the tax burden for a public one….certainly at one point in DC, that was true.

JFKY on March 1, 2013 at 1:10 PM

School vouchers is the civil rights issue of our era.

John the Libertarian on March 1, 2013 at 1:10 PM

Are you saying that the private schools are charging more than the per capita for students? Because Public Education ain’t cheap….

JFKY on March 1, 2013 at 1:10 PM

Frankly the per-capita rate is so ****ed up it’s not even funny.

MelonCollie on March 1, 2013 at 1:11 PM

The military has had a laundry list of reasons that we know of and at least as many that we don’t to toss Obama in jail as an outright traitor and Biden in a mental institution for equally obvious reasons so hard they bounce.

MelonCollie on March 1, 2013 at 1:10 PM

Uh no they don’t sorry….in your “mind” they do…just like in Medea Benjamin and some journalists mind the Joint Chiefs should have arrested Bush…

But no….

JFKY on March 1, 2013 at 1:13 PM

Do some reading on the Birmingham school system. It is a circus run by blacks who are trying their darnedest to drive it into ruination. Some of the school board meetings, which you can watch online, are unbelievable.

MustLoveBlogs on March 1, 2013 at 1:14 PM

Good.

Jeez, I wish we could do something like that here in California. The teachers’ unions and the Democrats are ruining our education, our children, and our future. If we can’t save that, nothing else matters.

Socratease on March 1, 2013 at 1:16 PM

JFKY on March 1, 2013 at 1:13 PM

Except you can’t argue Biden doesn’t belong in the loony bin.

Fenris on March 1, 2013 at 1:17 PM

JFKY on March 1, 2013 at 1:13 PM

The fact that you are actually comparing Bush’s antics with Obama’s blatant treason would be laughable if it weren’t so stupid.

MelonCollie on March 1, 2013 at 1:17 PM

We need more charter schools around the country, and less teacher unions.

Amazingoly on March 1, 2013 at 1:17 PM

now they’ll just go judge shopping until they can over turn it in the courts.

bannor on March 1, 2013 at 1:19 PM

Do some reading on the Birmingham school system. It is a circus run by blacks who are trying their darnedest to drive it into ruination. Some of the school board meetings, which you can watch online, are unbelievable.

MustLoveBlogs on March 1, 2013 at 1:14 PM

Same as the Detroit schools, New Orleans schools, Philadelphia, Camden, Newark, Cleveland, DC, ………

viking01 on March 1, 2013 at 1:19 PM

The fact that you are actually comparing Bush’s antics with Obama’s blatant treason would be laughable if it weren’t so stupid.

MelonCollie on March 1, 2013 at 1:17 PM

What I am pointing out is that you are as crazy as Medea Benjamin, in your own little jack-booted way…..

JFKY on March 1, 2013 at 1:20 PM

As a transplanted yankee who has lived in northern Alabama for the past 25 years, I’m proud of this result. It will give many kids a fighting chance in some parts of this state.

KickandSwimMom on March 1, 2013 at 1:22 PM

What I am pointing out is that you are as crazy as Medea Benjamin, in your own little jack-booted way…..

JFKY on March 1, 2013 at 1:20 PM

What you are pointing out is that you are a whiny retard and closet liberal, in addition to being an unimaginative wanna-be Israeli who throws around worn-out references to a certain oppressive regime in place of actual arguments.

MelonCollie on March 1, 2013 at 1:23 PM

wanna-be Israeli who throws around worn-out references to a certain oppressive regime in place of actual arguments.

The fact you EVEN use the phrase “wanna-be Israeli” just confirms my statement “…your own little jack-booted way.”

JFKY on March 1, 2013 at 1:29 PM

1. The closest you’ve ever come to a “new confederacy” is seeing some wingnut Neo-Confederate loon’s comment on a website. And should one actually form, they wouldn’t enslave your worthless hide, they’d just shoot you and raise the collective IQ of continent.

2. The white men will do a better job of running the disaster areas you call ‘schools’, you know it, I know it, and you know I know it.

3. I’m not interested in complaints from someone who could take lessons in fathering and raising their children from a pack of timber wolves</strong.

And I htought I’d let this pass, but no, I won’t now…your hood is showing honey….

JFKY on March 1, 2013 at 1:30 PM

To the comments regarding poor private schools. If the voucher system can become stable private parties will invest in facilities and prices will come down for better schools. With the Unions and Democrats constantly trying to reverse vouchers that will be a risky investment. Depends on the voters hanging in there.

CW20 on March 1, 2013 at 1:31 PM

The fact you EVEN use the phrase “wanna-be Israeli” just confirms my statement “…your own little jack-booted way.”

JFKY on March 1, 2013 at 1:29 PM

The only thing that’s confirmed is that the site would benefit if you accidentally formatted your C drive.

Here’s a clue for you, CHILD: “jackboots” (which you’ve never seen in your entire spoiled life) are what Obama wants to march down your street. Remember that whole “civilian force” he used to blab about? That is what Obama wants.

If you still can’t tell the difference here’s another comparison: if you ever saw a revived OWS in uniforms and with rifles parading around the White House, it would herald a horrible loss of freedom. If you ever saw the American military heading toward the White House, it would herald a last-ditch attempt to preserve freedom. Emphasis on “last-ditch”.

MelonCollie on March 1, 2013 at 1:33 PM

“I’ve never seen such sleaziness,” Rep. Thomas Jackson, D-Thomasville, said.

Didn’t follow the passage of Obamacare?

forest on March 1, 2013 at 12:08 PM

You’re not supposed to exposed libs. Local Democrats pretend they are not connected to the national apparatus when the going gets tough.

scotash on March 1, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Everyone ASSUMES that “private school” means Sidwell Friends at 25K a pop…again Catholic education is a whole lot cheaper than that…people of modest means pay taxes and STILL educate their children there…so now instead of no choice, the tax money can go to the school, it still might require a sacrifice, but it isn’t like you are sending your child to Harvard, either.

JFKY on March 1, 2013 at 1:36 PM

And I htought I’d let this pass, but no, I won’t now…your hood is showing honey….

JFKY on March 1, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Come back when you can show that black family has recovered from the collapse caused by decades of being on the Democrat welfare plantation.

As for the “wolves” comment, things are so bad that a wolf pup has a better chance of seeing his/her father than a black baby. Them’s the facts, jack, and it’s a damning statement against liberalism.

MelonCollie on March 1, 2013 at 1:36 PM

No MelonCollie the jack-boots are what you and that mis-understood white guy, Hitler had…you’re just PROJECTING your racist desires onto Obama.

JFKY on March 1, 2013 at 1:37 PM

“How dare you send those poor kids to private schools. That’s where MY kids go!”

Russ in OR on March 1, 2013 at 1:37 PM

The Democrats are always yelling they are for the poor but when anything to help them get better educated comes up it is always the Republicans. The Democrats keep saying that allowing school choice will leave the poor black children in the schools that are failing. Why? If the school is meeting the expectations of the parents then they will leave their kids in that school. So, in my humble opinion, this is great Legislation and I wish Arkansas would pass similar legislation.

old war horse on March 1, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Everyone ASSUMES that “private school” means Sidwell Friends at 25K a pop…again Catholic education is a whole lot cheaper than that…

JFKY on March 1, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Some facts for once, and you’re absolutely right. It doesn’t help that this myth is intentionally fueled by liberals to make public school look like the only affordable choice.

…nevermind the fact that it’s ‘affordable’ thanks to ridiculous taxes that we all get gouged for.

MelonCollie on March 1, 2013 at 1:39 PM

Keep our black students in failing schools…we demand it, equal failure for all.

right2bright on March 1, 2013 at 1:44 PM

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