Cuomo: Hollywood is going to be exempt from New York’s gun laws

posted at 10:21 am on February 28, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

In Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s haste to be the first out of the gate to Do Something in the wake of the Newtown massacre, he signed into law a slate of new gun-control measures that, in retrospect, are looking awfully ill-thought-out. Cuomo apparently agrees, because he’s looking to add in a very particular exemption to his strict gun laws… for Hollywood filmmakers.

New York sought to combat violence by rushing the nation’s toughest gun control measure into law after the Connecticut school shootings that killed 26 people, but the state is now carving out an exemption to make sure movie and TV producers can stage running gun battles on Manhattan streets. …

“We spend a lot of money in the state bringing movie production here, post-production here, so obviously we would want to facilitate that,” said Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who wants to expand the film and TV tax credit.

He said movies and TV may use fake guns that wouldn’t be subject to the new law but the industry wants “certainty.” The revised law would allow them to use real weapons without real ammunition.

“There’s no reason not to make a change like that to give an industry comfort, especially when it’s an industry we want to do business in the state,” the governor said.

Wow. So not only is Hollywood all too happy to play the role of the happily exempted from a boatload of friendly tax incentives and subsidies from the states, all while its progressive elite’s favorite new pastime includes proselytizing on the merits of President Obama’s higher-tax, expanded-entitlement agenda — but New York is now giving them a free pass from the strict gun laws of the land so that they won’t have to encounter any pesky hindrances in their violent movie-making.

Gee, I don’t suppose that next they’ll consider an exemption for law-abiding New Yorkers who want to use firearms for self-defense, perhaps? Oh no, never — because Hollywood’s motives are certainly well-intentioned, while 99.99 percent of gun owners, well… we just can’t be sure, can we?

The double standard is overwhelming me.


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jake-the-goose on February 28, 2013 at 10:24 AM

Cuomo/Bloomberg 2016. They’ll take care of all your problems for you.

a capella on February 28, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Don’t worry, the NYT will get to the bottom of this.

Gatsu on February 28, 2013 at 10:27 AM

He’s running in 2016 and wants their money, next?

Jayrae on February 28, 2013 at 10:28 AM

Slight OT, but do most people realize that the Gun Grabber’s ultimate goal of CONFISCATION (as expressed by Cuomo himself) need Registrations, BUT Criminals are exempt from such requirements, lest they self incriminate themselves?

Against Gun Registration
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/341526/against-gun-registration-charles-c-w-cooke

The reductio ad absurdum of this tendency has been well documented by the historian Clayton Cramer. “The U.S. Supreme Court,” Cramer writes,

ruled in Haynes vs. U.S. (1968) that convicted felons have a Constitutional right to not register a gun, because to register a gun would be self-incrimination. Only people that aren’t criminals can be punished for not registering. If the criminals aren’t required to register, but you and I are, why bother?

As Cramer noted, the Supreme Court thus ruled that on Fifth Amendment grounds “a person illegally possessing a firearm, under either federal or state law, [can] not be punished for failing to register it.”

This conceit has been upheld elsewhere, too. I have no great objection to this principle, but it does highlight the absurdity of an approach that would see constitutionally protected individual liberties being strictly guarded in the case of criminals but restricted when it comes to the law-abiding.

Practically speaking, the Haynes decision legally exempts from any future registry the very people whose behavior is used to justify its necessity.

Galt2009 on February 28, 2013 at 10:31 AM

Is he also going to include an exemption for the police?

Steven Den Beste on February 28, 2013 at 10:31 AM

The best thing to come out of this law from Cuomo is, he has sunk any chance he had of becoming President. He’ll be yet another footnote in the Cuomo history book.

De Oppresso Liber on February 28, 2013 at 10:32 AM

Sometimes, the jokes just write themselves…

Wyznowski on February 28, 2013 at 10:32 AM

Going back to a feudal society. There will be the nobility and us peasants.

rbj on February 28, 2013 at 10:32 AM

In March, numerous NY legislators are also planning to put a repeal of SAFE to initial legislative tests. I don’t see that reported in too many places.

I have never seen so many people in NY this motivated to vote out legislators who supported SAFE. That includes Republican Senate Leader Skelos who was the prime supporter of this bill. I am betting he should start to plan for a life outside politics.

There is also a rally in Albany tomorrow and the state is preparing for record crowds. Think the media will cover that? Oh yeah, wait- they will find a few “nuts” and then cast aspersions about all gun owners. Right.

The growing list of counties officially opposing the NYS SAFE act 50+ counties taking action!

Marcus Traianus on February 28, 2013 at 10:32 AM

Can the filmmakers serve “Big Gulps” with pizza on the set..?

d1carter on February 28, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Chris Christie agree with this sociopathic tyrant 98 percent of the time.

SWalker on February 28, 2013 at 10:33 AM

And can we call Hollywood studios vulture capitalists now? Dreamworks is moving production to China (thanks to our government) and many visual effects companies, replaced by Chinese labor and now bankrupt, are contemplating following them there.

Thanks goodness we didn’t elect that rich businessman Romney!

PattyJ on February 28, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Einstein once said that if you run fast enough around a tree, you have a distinct chance of f**king yourself. Or, you can do same by rushing an ill-conceived anti-gun bill through your legislature.

Archivarix on February 28, 2013 at 10:37 AM

This little loophole won’t even go over well among residents of New York City, let alone the rest of the country.

jon1979 on February 28, 2013 at 10:50 AM

Because nobody needs a military-style semi-automatic assault weapon with large-capacity magazines to protect themselves. Their mere existence is a threat to the safety of society and directly causes the deaths of innocent children.

But to make money? Sure, why not? Hollywood producers and actors have superior morality, judgement, and self-restraint compared to average people, as anybody who reads tabloid newspapers can tell you.

Socratease on February 28, 2013 at 10:53 AM

About Cuomo’s new gun law, seems like the New York State Supreme Court wants some proof that it meets Constitutionality . Too funny.

D-fusit on February 28, 2013 at 10:54 AM

Hollywood get’s to use “real” guns with blanks? Did I get that right? Just ask John Erik Hexum how that worked out.

greasywrench on February 28, 2013 at 10:59 AM

Don’t want the Hollywood crowd to be afraid to stop making movies in NYC. Must reassure them that it is okay for them to have those guns. The laws are only for the little people who are too stupid and/or dangerous to be allowed to own such guns.

farsighted on February 28, 2013 at 11:01 AM

Don’t want the Hollywood crowd to be afraid to stop making make…

farsighted on February 28, 2013 at 11:02 AM

Well, we all know that if you have the right connections you can be pretty much exempt from just about all the Looney Leftist Laws.

hawkeye54 on February 28, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Maybe I could give Cuomo some tips on this: I granted Hollywood an exemption from selling me their violent fatuous crap years ago, and it is working out quite well for me.

drunyan8315 on February 28, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Thanks goodness we didn’t elect that rich businessman Romney!

You betcha! I was told if I voted for him, more business would move to China. Well, I voted for him, and sure enough.

hawkeye54 on February 28, 2013 at 11:05 AM

Hollywood is exempt, and can use real guns long as they only fire blanks?

How can anyone be sure someone on the set won’t bring live ammo and go nuts? Seems more likely a possibly than the average person shooting a shotgun blast through his or her front door.

Liam on February 28, 2013 at 11:05 AM

Well, we all know that if you have the right connections you can be pretty much exempt from just about all the Looney Leftist Laws.

hawkeye54 on February 28, 2013 at 11:03 AM

There are always different rules for enlightened and loyal Party members and supporters. Since it is well known their intentions are pure and selfless, the ordinary rules and regulations need not apply to them.

farsighted on February 28, 2013 at 11:09 AM

I’d like to see Remington shut down and move its NY manufacturing plant. It’s a big name and a two hundred year old company that was founded in NY. Even though Remington is now headquartered in NC, leaving the state completely would say a lot.

RadClown on February 28, 2013 at 11:10 AM


BUT Criminals are exempt from such requirements, lest they self incriminate themselves? …
Galt2009 on February 28, 2013 at 10:31 AM

But if someone fails to register then that makes them a criminal. Another classic logic puzzle along with: this statement is false.

Fenris on February 28, 2013 at 11:10 AM

Even though Remington is now headquartered in NC, leaving the state completely would say a lot.

Yeah…and the Lefties would bid them good riddance and cheer Remington’s departure. They don’t want that kind of evil business providing jobs and contribution to the economy.

hawkeye54 on February 28, 2013 at 11:13 AM

So we’ll keep guns away from level-headed, law-abiding citizens, but leave them in the hands of spoiled, ill-mannered, heavy-drinking, coke-snorting, teenaged-girl-groping, prima-donnas.

Got it.

CurtZHP on February 28, 2013 at 11:22 AM

Hollywood get’s to use “real” guns with blanks? Did I get that right? Just ask John Erik Hexum how that worked out.

greasywrench on February 28, 2013 at 10:59 AM

Great idea – real NY people wanting self-defense – just set up video cameras around the house so when you shoot the criminals you can claim you were making a movie – therefore exempt from the law – unfortunately you put the wrong bullets in the gun, so your lead actor bad guy got killed accidently….

dentarthurdent on February 28, 2013 at 11:24 AM

Cuomo: Hollywood is going to be exempt from New York’s gun laws, as soon as I figure out what the fluke was in the first bill I signed, without reading.

Fixed for a low information New York voting base, deserving of a low information representation.

MNHawk on February 28, 2013 at 11:25 AM

But if someone fails to register then that makes them a criminal. Another classic logic puzzle along with: this statement is false.

Fenris on February 28, 2013 at 11:10 AM

Sounds perfectly logical to me. If criminals are exempt from registration, and failing to register makes me a criminal, then I am subsequently exempt from the registration requirement. Instant “not guilty” for failing to register my guns.

dentarthurdent on February 28, 2013 at 11:26 AM

So we’ll keep guns away from level-headed, law-abiding citizens, but leave them in the hands of spoiled, ill-mannered, heavy-drinking, coke-snorting, teenaged-girl-groping, prima-donnas.

Got it.

Well, I gotta say, guns in the hands of level-headed, law-abiding citizens are a far greater threat and danger to the agenda of the Left than the minions of Hollywierd.

hawkeye54 on February 28, 2013 at 11:28 AM

“There’s no reason not to make a change like that to give an industry comfort, especially when it’s an industry we want to do business in the state,” the governor said.

Fracking industry need not seek such comfort.

Happy Nomad on February 28, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Why would Hollywood need an exemption with existing CGI technology? Whatever happened with blanks and sound effects?

To paraphrase Piers Morgan: Why is there need for an exemption for Hollywood? I see no need so no exemption is necessary.

Kingfisher on February 28, 2013 at 11:31 AM

Governor Cosa Nostra.

Mr. Arrogant on February 28, 2013 at 11:32 AM

dentarthurdent on February 28, 2013 at 11:26 AM

But if you had only agreed to the government’s reasonable demands, you could live peaceably. What do you have to hide? Now show me your papers.

Fenris on February 28, 2013 at 11:32 AM

So, law abiding citizens can’t have guns to prevent actual violence, but Hollywood can have them to portray the violence New Yorkers can’t defend themselves from. Got it.

RadClown on February 28, 2013 at 11:33 AM

This will probably soon be followed by Bloomberg creating exemptions in his food-Nazi rules for fat-assed Hollywood celebrities like Michael Moore.

Kingfisher on February 28, 2013 at 11:34 AM

There are lots of movies that can be made without guns involved. I really think that these people should be made to stick to their “morality” and prohibit any movie product that involves guns. On one hand they are saying that they pass these laws to help stop gun violence and on the other they welcome and encourage the production of movies in their state that glorifies gun violence.

Every day liberals, by their actions, convince me that liberalism is a mental illness. I wonder what the percentage of liberals vs conservatives is that seek mental health therapists. I’d venture to say that far more liberals do, which just supports my view that liberalism is in fact a mental illness.

Dr. Frank Enstine on February 28, 2013 at 11:36 AM

This will probably soon be followed by Bloomberg creating exemptions in his food-Nazi rules for fat-assed Hollywood celebrities like Michael Moore.

Kingfisher on February 28, 2013 at 11:34 AM

Yes, that will happen for gourmet restaurants. Parody is dead.

Fenris on February 28, 2013 at 11:36 AM

The bad news here is that some terrorist set is going to stage a Hollywood production in the city and then open fire on the crowd with real weapons… leading to a more draconian ban as well as national handwringing for gun nuts who just won’t give up the Second Amendment.

jdfister on February 28, 2013 at 11:38 AM

This will probably soon be followed by Bloomberg creating exemptions in his food-Nazi rules for fat-assed Hollywood celebrities like Michael Moore.

Of course. Nothing official, mind you, just an unspoken exemption in not enforcing and ignoring the rules for fellow lefties so they can chow down on whatever they desire while in the Big Apple.

hawkeye54 on February 28, 2013 at 11:38 AM

Why would Hollywood need an exemption with existing CGI technology? Whatever happened with blanks and sound effects?

Kingfisher on February 28, 2013 at 11:31 AM

Why not just CGI “New York” in the background and stay out in California?

Happy Nomad on February 28, 2013 at 11:39 AM

But if you had only agreed to the government’s reasonable demands, you could live peaceably. What do you have to hide? Now show me your papers.

Fenris on February 28, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Well there is that.
If you object to an unreasonable search, then you must be hiding something – which gives the cops “reasonable cause” to perform the unreasonable search. So which of your rights do you want us to violate – 2nd Amendment, 4th Amendment, or 5th Amendment? Take your pick but any way around – you’re going to jail for something.

Ya – we’re screwed.

dentarthurdent on February 28, 2013 at 11:39 AM

Why not just CGI “New York” in the background and stay out in California?

Could easily be done. Many of the streets of downtown Los Angeles have served as a substitute for NYC in TV shows and movies. In fact, watching a recent episode of CSI:NY, a scene featured Cole’s Restaurant on 6th St. Hard to miss as an eatery icon of LA for those in the know.

hawkeye54 on February 28, 2013 at 11:44 AM

dentarthurdent on February 28, 2013 at 11:39 AM

You made me think for a moment: which of the rights in the Bill of Rights are not being threatened? The 3rd on quartering troops, I guess, and that’s about it.

Fenris on February 28, 2013 at 11:48 AM

There will be the nobility and us peasants.

rbj on February 28, 2013 at 10:32 AM

Speak for yourself! I plan on finding a watery tart to throw me a sword, or something.

GWB on February 28, 2013 at 11:59 AM

So every one in New York will become a Hollywood film studio…

Gun in one hand, film camera in the other.
Before they rob the bank, first yell, “Action!”

albill on February 28, 2013 at 12:00 PM

does Hollyweird also get a waiver for their big gulps?

newyork may as well go full facist, and elect bloomberg for life

burserker on February 28, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Could we call this “The David Gregory exemption?”

RickinNH on February 28, 2013 at 12:06 PM

The 3rd on quartering troops, I guess, and that’s about it.

Its probably reserved for use in the coming national upheaval sometime in the near future. Wouldn’t you feel more secure with armed troops quartered in your home should widespread violence, looting and pillaging occur?

hawkeye54 on February 28, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Speak for yourself! I plan on finding a watery tart to throw me a swordAR-15, or something an RPG.

Meh, these days a sword, or something, just doesn’t do it for me. I must have more firepower!

hawkeye54 on February 28, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Pass all the gun laws you can possibly dream about…take all the guns out of the hands of both criminals and law-abiding citizens…all 300 million of them…make the entire U.S. a gun-free zone. No more hunting, no range shooting, nada…none of it.

Ahh…at last…a liberal’s dream of Utopia finally achieved. No more exposure to violence of any kind because the guns are gone.

Wait, if the guns are gone and there is no more violence, why the need to make movies depicting gun violence in the state of New York or anywhere else? Censure Hollywood from making any movies depicting any violence, especially with guns. There is no need to depict violence in modern times of peaceful, blissful, liberalism. Oh, and ban all movies depicting any historical connection between the needless violence of guns. No more “Bonnie & Clyde” movies. Why the need to remind all the blissful, peaceful Americans that violence once existed? It can only put ideas into the young skulls full of mush

metroryder on February 28, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Step-by-step disarmament is what they have in mind. First by regulation and registration; making guns and ammo prohibitively expensive, scarce and very difficult to purchase; as well as very easy to track. They are creating arbitrary laws that will criminalize law-abiding citizens in hopes of scaring many of them into giving up their guns. They will forbid private gun sales or transfer of gun ownership; they will forbid transfer of guns from state to state; then finally, when enough people have been disarmed through these incremental means, they will threaten those that will not give up their guns with HARSH penalties. For those last remaining few who do not give in, they will confiscate their guns by force. Survivors will be incarcerated. We need to stand firm and not let them succeed. Those that give in weaken the rest of us. The 2nd Amendment was written for just this sort of situation. Game on!

MarkM on February 28, 2013 at 12:17 PM

This is coming:

In order to purchase a firearm, each purchaser must produce the United Gun Owners Union ID card.

If purchaser is not a member of the UGOU, membership will become automatic upon completion of the sale. Annual dues not to exceed $5,000 per annum will be collected by the IRS through federal income tax returns and transferred to the UGOU treasurer.

BobMbx on February 28, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Coumo should be passing a law forbidding movies with guns from being shown in NY.

KenInIL on February 28, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Crazy time: When criminals break the law, punish the innocent!

MTF on February 28, 2013 at 12:47 PM

You made me think for a moment: which of the rights in the Bill of Rights are not being threatened? The 3rd on quartering troops, I guess, and that’s about it.

Fenris on February 28, 2013 at 11:48 AM

Well, let’s face it, the entire Constitution is just an archaic piece of parchment that has no place in the modern world, right?

dentarthurdent on February 28, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Speak for yourself! I plan on finding a watery tart to throw me a swordAR-15, or something an RPG.

Meh, these days a sword, or something, just doesn’t do it for me. I must have more firepower!

hawkeye54 on February 28, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Beat me to it.
With all the comments on HA over the last couple months about people losing their guns in lakes, there should be some well armed watery tarts out there perhaps willing to throw out a few scary looking guns with high mag assault clips…..

I’ll lead the charge on the Castle Anthrax….

dentarthurdent on February 28, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Why not just CGI “New York” in the background and stay out in California?

Happy Nomad on February 28, 2013 at 11:39 AM

Forget California. Let’s just push them off to some remote island and wall it off like “Escape from New York.” Let them run their own socialist paradise so they can show the rest of us mere mortals how it should be properly implemented.

Kingfisher on February 28, 2013 at 12:53 PM

I’ll lead the charge on the Castle Anthrax….

dentarthurdent on February 28, 2013 at 12:52 PM

I just hope none of those 4 score blonde, brunette, and redhead virgins between the ages 17 and 23 steps out on the balcony with a double-barrel shotgun….

dentarthurdent on February 28, 2013 at 12:55 PM

You know, unless Ed gets into these movies for free when he reviews them, I have to wonder why anyone would give money to Hollywood.

beatcanvas on February 28, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Cuomo can take his ban and stuff it.

jawkneemusic on February 28, 2013 at 12:58 PM

The growing list of counties officially opposing the NYS SAFE act 50+ counties taking action!

Marcus Traianus on February 28, 2013 at 10:32 AM

Here’s the problem – in New York, only 8 counties really matter: The five boroughs, Nassau, Suffolk, and Westchester. Good luck ever getting those counties to do anything.

Upstate should seriously consider going its own way. Otherwise, they’re going to be a largely rural area having urban sensibilities imposed on them from now until the end of time.

Red Cloud on February 28, 2013 at 1:00 PM

The Brady Campaign To Prevent Gun Violence Stats: Violence Is Lower In Right-To-Carry States

http://tinyurl.com/c3f9uqs

Resist We Much on February 28, 2013 at 1:16 PM

You know, unless Ed gets into these movies for free when he reviews them, I have to wonder why anyone would give money to Hollywood.

I don’t patronize theaters anymore. I have not set foot in a theater since seeing Mel Gibson in “Ransom”. There has been much worthwhile material put on screen in the last decade or so. What few good movies have been produced I wait to watch on PPV on cable, so at least I’m not giving as much money to Hollywood. I can’t stand movie theater crowds either.

hawkeye54 on February 28, 2013 at 1:20 PM

Who gives a crap?

bgibbs1000 on February 28, 2013 at 1:38 PM

I just hope none of those 4 score blonde, brunette, and redhead virgins between the ages 17 and 23 steps out on the balcony with a double-barrel shotgun….

dentarthurdent on February 28, 2013 at 12:55 PM

In that case I’ll storm the castle to rescue you from the peril. :-)

Kingfisher on February 28, 2013 at 2:07 PM

The best thing to come out of this law from Cuomo is, he has sunk any chance he had of becoming President. He’ll be yet another footnote in the Cuomo history book.

De Oppresso Liber on February 28, 2013 at 10:32 AM

His approval rating among men down to 54%. This is what gay marriage and gun control get you.

monalisa on February 28, 2013 at 2:43 PM

In that case I’ll storm the castle to rescue you from the peril. :-)

Kingfisher on February 28, 2013 at 2:07 PM

No no – let me go – I can face the peril… let me face the peril

I don’t care if it’s too perilous…

dentarthurdent on February 28, 2013 at 3:50 PM

“There’s no reason not to make a change like that to give an industry comfort, especially when it’s an industry we want to do business in the state,” the governor said.

Hmm, wonder how much of this cr*p Remington Arms et al will take before it joins the list?

IrishEyes on February 28, 2013 at 4:37 PM

ll Duce has decreed that heavily armed Tea Party columns have declared war on Hollyweird. This is a reasonable response.

wraithby on February 28, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Whatever happened to equal protection? Isn’t it cool how our protectors want to pick and choose who to protect. They always have a good reason for their disparity like attracting an infant industry, or phones for all cuz they might want to call for a job opening or something.

Kissmygrits on February 28, 2013 at 6:53 PM

De Oppresso Liber on February 28, 2013 at 10:32 AM

Nous Defions

hawkdriver on February 28, 2013 at 7:37 PM

You Guys!

14th Amendment, Section 1 …what’s that? Is New York a State? I’m so confuzzled. Perhaps we should gravitate toward an Amendment they stretch like play-doh

John Kettlewell on March 1, 2013 at 12:37 AM

Going back to a feudal society. There will be the nobility and us peasants.

rbj on February 28, 2013 at 10:32 AM

That’s Socialism right there in a nutshell.

As soon as the industrial revolution enabled peasants to earn as much as nobility, the artsy, intellectual nobles, who were more interested in culture and philosophy than figuring out ways to double and triple their trust funds, started squealing about the seamy nature of Capitalism. They played on the class envy of the less ambitious peasants, and went on and on about “equality”. But they were never contemptuous of the old money crowd. They were contemptuous of the nouveau riche.

It’s always been about the tacky, gluttonous nouveau riche….the peasants who don’t know their proper place. That’s what anti-Americanism is all about…..”who do those tacky, gluttonous Americans think they are becoming the richest most powerful nation in the world, with their football and their fast food and their awful TV shows and their gas guzzling cars?”.

It’s never been about the working class or “the little guy”. They’re just an audience to play to. It’s about a return to the old order, where everyone is either a peasant or a noble, and nothing in between. No stinkin’ small business owners mucking up the old order.

ardenenoch on March 1, 2013 at 1:18 AM

What a Pansy/Liberterian squirted out of a womb. This tulip even walks funny. Do I need to make innuendos & assume that Mr Puft_Marshmallow Man spent his formative years getting his ass kicked.

RdLake on March 1, 2013 at 1:22 AM