Kerry: US ready to hold bilateral talks with Iran over nuclear standoff
posted at 10:01 am on February 27, 2013 by Ed Morrissey
This may not be as meaningful as it sounds. Secretary of State John Kerry could have meant that the US was ready to hold bilateral talks with Irazakhstan. Just kidding — Kerry meant Iran, and intended to dangle the possibility after this week’s P-5+1 talks with Tehran’s representative on the nuclear question. The renewed offer of direct talks with Iran resulted from a burst of optimism from Saeed Jalili, who offered rare praise for an offer of resolution and a commitment to continuing the talks:
World powers and Iran ended two days of talks over the Islamic Republic’s disputed nuclear program with a pledge to hold further discussions starting next month.
Iran’s negotiator, Saeed Jalili, called the two-day session in Almaty, Kazakhstan a “turning point” and said a “more realistic and logical” proposal was made to Iran. He didn’t give details. Technical talks will be held in Istanbul on March 18, and political discussions with the so-called P5+1 — the U.S., U.K., France, Germany, China and Russia – will resume in Almaty on April 5, Jalili told reporters. …
Jalili reiterated that Iran has the right to enrichment under an international treaty it signed. He said there was no justification for seeking the shutdown of Iran’s Fordo plant, which was built clandestinely in the side of a mountain and produces most of the country’s medium-enriched uranium, since it’s under inspection by the United Nations nuclear watchdog.
Ashton declined to say whether the P5+1 has dropped its earlier demand for the closing of Fordo.
According to Bloomberg, the EU’s representative stated that the group had offered a “balanced” proposal that was “responsive” to Iranian demands. And while Tehran mulls over that proposal, Kerry dangled a carrot — or at least what he hopes is a carrot:
Secretary of State John Kerry said on Wednesday that two days of nuclear talks between Iran and world powers had been useful and said a serious engagement by Iran could lead to a longer-term, comprehensive agreement.
Kerry, who was in Paris meeting the French president and his counterpart Laurent Fabius during a tour of Europe, repeated that Washington was ready to hold bilateral talks with Iran.
That’s not a new offer, but it’s an important gesture … if Iran is serious about dealing on nuclear weapons. The US drives what sanction policy actually takes place in the world, and we hold a lot of financial and trade cards. Iran’s economy is sinking like a stone, and its currency is in meltdown thanks to trade sanctions. The situation might end up sparking another Iranian revolution if the mullahs can’t talk their way out of the sanctions regime, and the nuclear weapons may not be as important to them as their own survival. That assumes, though, that the Iranian mullahcracy wanted nuclear weapons for rational reasons (survival, regional influence) and not non-rational reasons (religious belief in a global conflagration delivering the Twelfth Imam).
There’s also the possibility that Iran doesn’t want bilateral relations with the “Great Satan,” which would make Kerry’s renewed offer a quaintly amusing footnote. They could cooperate with Europe to lift the sanctions if they trade away nuclear-weapons development, and still refuse to engage the US. After 34 years of propaganda in Iran, it might be a tough sell for even the mullahs to suddenly commit to normal relations with the US without creating even greater political instability. The offer doesn’t hurt, either, but only if we’re making it with a large helping of skepticism about its value to Iran.
All of this is predicated on the basis that Iran is negotiating in good faith at all. As we have seen in those 34 years, that’s usually not the case. This will likely be less of a “turning point” in any real sense than just another dilatory tactic for Tehran to get enough time to develop its nukes.
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Fred
jrsrigmvr on May 5, 2013 at 8:02 PM
Early QOTD Bishop.
nobar on May 5, 2013 at 8:02 PM
20 seconds….
nobar on May 5, 2013 at 8:04 PM
Early QOTD, AP. Does your cat have a date that you have to chaperone?
annoyinglittletwerp on May 5, 2013 at 8:04 PM
Lay off on AP about early QOTDs.
Geesh, some of us old geezers need an early QOTD so it can go off topic before bed time.
cozmo on May 5, 2013 at 8:07 PM
Security Council resolution? Did Obama disband Congress?
VorDaj on May 5, 2013 at 8:08 PM
THIS! And I have to get up and go into work early tomorrow…
ladyingray on May 5, 2013 at 8:08 PM
And so ends another pants-free weekend at cozmos in a couple hrs.
SparkPlug on May 5, 2013 at 8:10 PM
Muslims fighting Muslims – too bad, so sad.
VorDaj on May 5, 2013 at 8:10 PM
Obama/Bush/Clinton/Bush/Reagan don’t need Congress’ approval to launch strikes, they are CinC of the US Armed Forces. It’s expedient for them to inform and receive approval, but not a requirement.
Congress, if so inclined, can prevent the expenditure of funds for combat…but so far Congress has never done so.
JFKY on May 5, 2013 at 8:12 PM
The teleprompter is in monochrome..
No red lines..
Electrongod on May 5, 2013 at 8:12 PM
good question! Over to the guy with the big red crayon!!!
ted c on May 5, 2013 at 8:13 PM
How Do You Define ‘Weak’? An American President Who Draws ‘Red Lines’ With Disappearing Ink…
Resist We Much on May 5, 2013 at 8:15 PM
that was a Dry Erase Red Line
ted c on May 5, 2013 at 8:15 PM
O U C H!!!
ted c on May 5, 2013 at 8:17 PM
all this Syria stuff is really helpful to barry this week.
https://twitter.com/SharylAttkisson
pretty sad/brutal stuff here. 2 of the 4 people died 9 hours after the start.
Decisions were ‘isolated’ at the top.
like they say…politics ain’t beanbag. A few speed bumps on the way to an election and end-zone dance…that is all
r keller on May 5, 2013 at 8:17 PM
THIS! And I have to get up and go into work early tomorrow…
ladyingray on May 5, 2013 at 8:08 PM
Tomorrow, I’m on my weekend. Par-TAY!
annoyinglittletwerp on May 5, 2013 at 8:17 PM
Obama is an idiot for green-lighting Assad’s mass killing and then making a threat that he has no intention of backing-up. There are serious issues with his credibility and now the nation’s.
I’m no Anti-War nut, but we’d do best to stay out of Syria. Both sides in the conflict over there have no redeeming qualities. Assad is a brutal dictator and the opposition are Islamic extremists. Let them kill each other? Sure. Better than spilling American blood for terrorists.
Corporal Tunnel on May 5, 2013 at 8:18 PM
It wasn’t the Israeli’s it was some of Bill Ayers friends from the 60′s.
RickB on May 5, 2013 at 8:19 PM
The Great Community Organizer…
Failure on all fronts..
Thanks America.
Electrongod on May 5, 2013 at 8:19 PM
Weirdo
cozmo on May 5, 2013 at 8:20 PM
Shouldn’t Rubio take some time off pushing super amnesty and push Obama to do more for the “rebels” in Syria like he did for Libya?
VorDaj on May 5, 2013 at 8:21 PM
release the hounds
jrsrigmvr on May 5, 2013 at 8:22 PM
cozmo on May 5, 2013 at 8:20 PM
H8TR.
annoyinglittletwerp on May 5, 2013 at 8:23 PM
Wrong, ya’ weirdo!
I’m a LOVER.
cozmo on May 5, 2013 at 8:25 PM
They are neutered, by their own choice; they gave him the tools for their own castration; each time they ceded power to the Executive Branch, they set this in place. He now rules by fiat, filling in the blanks with executive orders, and creating both legislation and bureaucracy with pen strokes.
massrighty on May 5, 2013 at 8:27 PM
Huh? “arch rival”?? Rival for what?
I’ve seen lots of idiot left-speak in my day but this is really a doozy. CBS should be burned to the ground along with most of Syria, CBS’ main buddy. And the despicable, lying scumbag dems can go through the fire with their “real reformer” and all the Al Quaeda and assorted jihadi rebel lunatics.
I am calling for an airdrop of MSM reporters and a dem Congressional group on Syria. Let the leftists and the Baathists and the jihadis all go to hell together. The Gang of Eight can go with them.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 5, 2013 at 8:27 PM
About the only Security Council resolution Obama will get is to attack Israel.
How about we let Muslims keep killing each other and look the other way when Israel is defending it’s interests???
redguy on May 5, 2013 at 8:30 PM
Looks like Twerp and Coz are about to do some wraslin’.
Finally.
*gets out the popcorn*
SparkPlug on May 5, 2013 at 8:30 PM
I don’t think Assad is going to want having the IDF hammering his front door with rebels already inside his back porch.
Liam on May 5, 2013 at 8:30 PM
We don’t need to give the rebels arms. Just send them unmarked (and untraceable) boxes of bacon.
/popcorn.
nobar on May 5, 2013 at 8:30 PM
Effectively, yes. And Congress has been perfectly happy to cede its Constitutional authority to the 84 IQ, affirmative action, dog-eating, hussein imbecile without a fight.
America … taken down by an inept, moronic, talentless, third world pea-brained hack. Pathetic.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 5, 2013 at 8:31 PM
“Now, by ‘red line’, I was obviously speaking metaphorically, and perhaps I utilized an unnecessarily contentious image, when what I meant is: that the U.N.’s control mechanisms need to come into play if WMD’s were used by Assad… or anyone else… but until proved, beyond any doubt, to have been used, we remain observers. Of course, I will choose my future semiotic signs, concerning Syria, with a nod to diplomatic ambiguity -which is usually second-nature …to a young Muslim socialist like me … This stuff is hard!
profitsbeard on May 5, 2013 at 8:32 PM
I find it funny we could intervene in Libya, but not SYRIA…I’m SO confused…
JFKY on May 5, 2013 at 8:33 PM
Then…
Nudged by a note handed him by an aide, the nominee corrected himself and declared that in fact the U.S. doesn’t have a policy on containment. This was one misstatement too many for Carl Levin—the committee chairman, a Democrat and supporter of Mr. Hagel’s nomination—who ended the discussion with his own terse correction:
Next…
But, guess what?
Containment IS on the table.
Resist We Much on May 5, 2013 at 8:33 PM
Bibi should send a memo to the White House.
Mr. President, our attack aircraft our dropping JDAMs over your red line.
–Bibi
ted c on May 5, 2013 at 8:37 PM
Via GP:
And, Obama went to bed.
D-E-V-A-S-T-A-T-I-N-G.
Resist We Much on May 5, 2013 at 8:39 PM
Ya know, POP,, you make a lot of sense. On all fronts.
Kudos, Sir.
I’m ready for that divorce, too. I enjoy your posts. We are of like mind.
wolly4321 on May 5, 2013 at 8:39 PM
Benghazi is finally breaking wide open and Sharyl Attkisson us leading the pack at CBS NEWS and Allahpundit is out to lunch in Syria.
Sharyl Attkisson @SharylAttkisson 33m
And when you hear allegations that people are told not to talk, I would hope those issues would come out and if that’s the case …
Sharyl Attkisson @SharylAttkisson 37m
Vietor: “From the moment the president was briefed on the Benghazi attack, the response effort was handled by the most senior national…
Sharyl Attkisson @SharylAttkisson 37m
…security officials in governments. Members of the CSG were of course involved in these meetings and discussions to support their bosses.”
Rovin on May 5, 2013 at 8:39 PM
quotes of the day
more like quotes from last august
triple on May 5, 2013 at 8:41 PM
No…THIS Red Line.
No…THIS one.
No…THIS one.
…
catmman on May 5, 2013 at 8:41 PM
Wrong!
Its this one over here.
cozmo on May 5, 2013 at 8:43 PM
“Could”?
davidk on May 5, 2013 at 8:44 PM
I hope this kerfuffle in Syria isn’t distracting obama from his golf game. Anybody know what he shot today?
Quite a loathsome creature is he.
Naturally Curly on May 5, 2013 at 8:45 PM
The World’s Largest Hotel, Which Has Never Had One Guest: KdF Prora, The Mein Kampf Summer Resort (Photo Essay)
Resist We Much on May 5, 2013 at 8:46 PM
Thanks, wolly.
Papers are drawn up, just waiting for the signatures :)
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 5, 2013 at 8:47 PM
Maybe I’m too jaded, but if only CBS is detailing the story, it’s not going very far. MSNBC and CNN will spin it if they mention it at all. I can picture Tingles going so far as to label CBS as a right-wing opinion outlet like Fox.
Liam on May 5, 2013 at 8:49 PM
No, no, no, not like that.
cozmo on May 5, 2013 at 8:49 PM
Probably about 162 … though the scorecard read 85, no doubt. Not only is Barky devoid of talent but he cheats likes no ones business.
Yep.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 5, 2013 at 8:50 PM
I looked at this earlier; I had, when younger, considered studying, and then teaching 20th century history, as a career.
You, young lady, are a treasure!
massrighty on May 5, 2013 at 8:50 PM
Old & Busted:
New Hotness:
Resist We Much on May 5, 2013 at 8:50 PM
His dog, for a little snack?
Liam on May 5, 2013 at 8:51 PM
He shot his namesake?
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 5, 2013 at 8:51 PM
I like this one more.
cozmo on May 5, 2013 at 8:53 PM
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4579234995437600&pid=1.9&w=300&h=300&p=0
davidk on May 5, 2013 at 8:56 PM
Kol hakavod lezahal
WhatSlushfund on May 5, 2013 at 8:57 PM
Seems that the Sunni and Shi’ia have a death wish.
I wish they’d just get on with it…
NOT ONE MORE DROP OF AMERICAN BLOOD NEED BE SPILT…
NO MORE!
Phuck ‘em all stupid savage backwards ragheads…
Scrumpy on May 5, 2013 at 9:00 PM
Thanks! I don’t usually cover the Nazis in the Week-end Photo Essay, but I remembered reading about this some time back and thought it would be interesting. Much of Nazi architecture has been destroyed – rightfully so – so that when one on this size is this existing, it does give us an understanding of how Hitler and Speer designed so much…and ALL OF IT WAS ON A HUGE SIZE. The Volkshalle (indoor Great Hall) was going to be built on a scale so large that it boggles the mind. Up to 250,000 people would be able to be accommodated in this building AT ONE TIME. If a large, college football stadium, which is outdoors, can hold up to 100,000, then just imagine how big the Volkshalle was planned to be.
Resist We Much on May 5, 2013 at 9:01 PM
WhatSlushfund on May 5, 2013 at 8:57 PM
Wouldn’t translate :-( Slovenian?
Scrumpy on May 5, 2013 at 9:02 PM
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4677078654322908&pid=1.7&w=279&h=188&c=7&rs=1
davidk on May 5, 2013 at 9:03 PM
That’s big, indeed, but Prora stretched on for 2.5 miles.
Whenever a liberal next tells you that the Nazis were libertarians or conservatives, ask him how many libertarians or conservatives support taxpayer-subsidised vacations at state-owned and operated resorts. Show them those photos. lol
Resist We Much on May 5, 2013 at 9:04 PM
davidk on May 5, 2013 at 8:56 PM
Very funny… :-)
Scrumpy on May 5, 2013 at 9:04 PM
Hebrew: ‘Bravo to the IDF.’
WhatSlushfund on May 5, 2013 at 9:05 PM
I don’t disagree, but it is still D-E-V-A-S-T-A-T-I-N-G.
We’re not supposed to leave our people behind.
Resist We Much on May 5, 2013 at 9:05 PM
WhatSlushfund on May 5, 2013 at 9:05 PM
Thanks! Google translate picked it up as Slovenian lol…
Guess it doesn’t recognize Hebrew!
Scrumpy on May 5, 2013 at 9:06 PM
Never met one who told me they were “libertarians.” I don’t think even Libfree could peddle that with a straight face….
JFKY on May 5, 2013 at 9:06 PM
Resist We Much on May 5, 2013 at 9:05 PM
No, we are not.
I so want this to break wide open for ALL to see…
dear leader is such a phuck…
Scrumpy on May 5, 2013 at 9:08 PM
Not in English transliteration, at least :)
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 5, 2013 at 9:09 PM
My advanced placement Modern European World History classes in High school did little to prepare me for this. Got A’s too. (got E’s in biology and english, though. I just couldn’t read to kill a mockingbird, or anything like it.)
wolly4321 on May 5, 2013 at 9:09 PM
Get a room, you two!
bofh on May 5, 2013 at 9:10 PM
…Benj… has a different teleprompter?
KOOLAID2 on May 5, 2013 at 9:12 PM
Speaking of Syria and chemicals, from the Headlines – The UN has testimony (not proof) that the rebels used sarin.
I give Team SCOAMT no points for being cautious on their response to somebody in Syria using chemical weapons because their main hope seems to be that Assad patches things up long enough to be Iran’s hammer against the Israelis, not that they were concerned that it might not have been (just) Assad using chemical weapons.
Steve Eggleston on May 5, 2013 at 9:13 PM
maybe dear leader is color blind…can’t see the red line
/
cmsinaz on May 5, 2013 at 9:13 PM
I have. ‘States’ rights! States’ rights!’
Hitler on states’ rights:
Resist We Much on May 5, 2013 at 9:14 PM
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 5, 2013 at 9:09 PM
Did not think to put it in the other box lol… :-)
Scrumpy on May 5, 2013 at 9:14 PM
Didn’t McCain Actually Run interference for his NVA captors – just like he’s doing now by helping his Terrorist Friends.
williamg on May 5, 2013 at 9:15 PM
After a really crummy day – the Duck Dynasty episode with Si and Willie playing games in Excalibur is even more entertaining that usual.
As for Syria – thank God for Israel.
gophergirl on May 5, 2013 at 9:19 PM
FOX News had this last week from a Benghazi whistle blower.
http://nation.foxnews.com/benghazi/2013/04/30/exclusive-special-operator-claims-us-could-have-intervened-benghazi-identity-concealed
It’s past time to have this laid at the door of those responsible.
INC on May 5, 2013 at 9:19 PM
James Rosen is confirming the CBS story about Hill shutting down the conterterrorism people
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/05/clinton-sought-end-run-around-counterterrorism-bureau-on-night-benghazi-attack/#ixzz2STGAQUs3
you know really, Hill should not be prezy. Just her falls are questionable…either health or drinking
not to mention that story about the General who was afraid of her…I mean, who are these people? (don’t worry, that’s a rhetorical question)
r keller on May 5, 2013 at 9:20 PM
Uh-huh. Of course they are “fully supportive”.
The Israelis are taking advantage of Dear Leader’s failed attempt to bluff Assad.
How could Comrade O possibly object to what Israel is doing after Assad called his bluff and he was unwilling to do anything himself? My guess is the Israelis would have done this anyway and may have been waiting for the right time. Comrade O’s blunder enables them to do it without concern that the US will publicly object. Teh One cannot criticize them even if he wants to without looking foolish and weak.
farsighted on May 5, 2013 at 9:21 PM
Second That!
Sometimes it’s hard to tell who I HATE more: McLame or Zero…….obviously Zero, but it’s close.
LOVE “Duck Dynasty”!!
williamg on May 5, 2013 at 9:21 PM
williamg on May 5, 2013 at 9:21 PM
Me too!! :-)
Scrumpy on May 5, 2013 at 9:24 PM
That’s a fact, Jack!
AZfederalist on May 5, 2013 at 9:26 PM
Best episode ever was the RV/Willie with the gator one. I’ve seen that one at least 5 times and I still laugh like I did the first time I saw it.
gophergirl on May 5, 2013 at 9:27 PM
I luv the purple Gorilla!!!! Lol
Scrumpy on May 5, 2013 at 9:28 PM
RWM@9:14.
Yea. The parallels. I keep finding myself wanting to review 1930′s history. And everytime I see a prious, I see a volkswagon. And infrastructure rings in my ear.
What is past is prologue.
It’s taboo to make those references, though.
Try bernake for instance. Wienmar.
I only know a little.
wolly4321 on May 5, 2013 at 9:29 PM
The kid’s face when Si gives him the huge pile of tickets is hilarious.
gophergirl on May 5, 2013 at 9:30 PM
“Si – you don’t have to be Armed to be “Considered Dangerous“!……”
williamg on May 5, 2013 at 9:31 PM
gophergirl on May 5, 2013 at 9:30 PM
One of those priceless moments :-)
Scrumpy on May 5, 2013 at 9:31 PM
OT/
Done. — And I “blog rolled” you. Neither here nor there, and not exactly important, but. :) Anyway, done.
Axe on May 5, 2013 at 9:32 PM
Absi-tively!
williamg on May 5, 2013 at 9:32 PM
williamg on May 5, 2013 at 9:31 PM
Si is a trip, so adorable and funny, I just wanna hug him :-)
Scrumpy on May 5, 2013 at 9:33 PM
Lol, hanging laundry, who does that any more?
Miss Kay is somthing else!!
“All it takes is a little honey on the bisquits” lol
Scrumpy on May 5, 2013 at 9:35 PM
I read that Si was getting so many “offers” that he and other members of the family had to post pictures of him and his wife to prove he was married.
Too funny!
gophergirl on May 5, 2013 at 9:35 PM
If it’s small scale, I don’t know how big a deal it is. I could mix bleach and amommia more effectively.
wolly4321 on May 5, 2013 at 9:35 PM
Clearly, if you can see the parallels, you know more than you give yourself credit for.
The manipulation of the media. The co-opting of the producers of popular culture. The urgency to do things, in the name of the greater good.
massrighty on May 5, 2013 at 9:35 PM
Axe on May 5, 2013 at 9:32 PM
Thank you kindly Sir!!!
Found my ‘blog roll’ thingy not done anything with it yet…
Scrumpy on May 5, 2013 at 9:36 PM
This is a shocking development…
workingclass artist on May 5, 2013 at 9:37 PM
I doubt this will happen. Why would anyone try that after the examples of Iraq and Afghanistan?
That is what GWB tried to do in Iraq and Comrade O kind-of sort-of halfheartedly tried to do in Afghanistan. In both cases we led an “international force”. Afghanistan even included a token effort by the French.
I very much doubt an “international force” will try it in Syria. Syria doesn’t even have oil.
farsighted on May 5, 2013 at 9:39 PM
MassR- oh no,, I get it. You just have to approach it gently for some damned reason. Or you get called a loon.
wolly4321 on May 5, 2013 at 9:40 PM
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