John Kerry: It’s okay to talk to Iran because their government was elected

posted at 6:41 pm on February 27, 2013 by Allahpundit

No, no, no. Listen: If, in the name of exhausting all non-military options, we need to keep up the farce a bit longer of pretending that Iran might be convinced to abandon its bomb project, fine. Keep talking. Plenty of military experts think even an attack on their nuclear infrastructure will do little more than slow the program down for a few years. But if we’re going to go on with this charade, let’s please have the dignity not to comply with the regime’s Orwellian lie that it was “elected” and therefore, by implication, is legitimate. For one thing, Ahmadinejad wasn’t elected; the vote was rigged. For another thing, even if it wasn’t rigged, Ahmadinejad doesn’t hold ultimate power. Khamenei, the supreme leader, does. One of the core functions of velayat e-faqih is to keep power in the hands of Shiite clerics, particularly the theocrat-in-chief, and away from the people. If the regime was “elected,” why do Iranians chant “Marg bar diktador”?

Besides, since when are elections some touchstone of whether the U.S. will talk to a foreign government? Our bestest buds the Saudis aren’t fans of democracy, but the White House has been very careful not to hold that against them. Especially after American allies started toppling during the Arab Spring.

“Iran is a country with a government that was elected and that sits in the United Nations,” Kerry said in France standing alongside French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius. “And it is important for us to deal with nation-states in a way that acts in the best interests of all of us in the world.”

The comment is similar to what Hagel said on Jan. 31 when he told the Senate Armed Services Committee Iran was “an elected, legitimate government, whether we agree or not.”…

Hagel had to walk back his declaration that Iran was “an elected, legitimate government” after being challenged in the hearing by Democratic New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand.

“I can understand if you meant it’s a legal entity that has international relations and has diplomatic relations, that is a member of the UN, I do not see Iran or the Iranian government as a legitimate government, and I’d like your thoughts on that,” Gillibrand said.

Hagel eventually walked it back, just as he did every third sentence he uttered at his confirmation hearing a few weeks ago. I don’t hold what he said about Iran against him since he does, after all, seem to be a bit “slow,” but what’s Kerry’s excuse? Let’s compromise: From now on, only one of the two cabinet members in charge of U.S. foreign policy is officially allowed to help the mullahs out with their Big Lie. Kerry and Hagel can take turns if they like. Deal?

Now, go read this and see for yourself how swell the effort to talk Iran down from the nuclear ledge is going.


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Faith No More – Epic

What happened to the cheetos? :)

thatsafactjack on May 6, 2013 at 1:24 AM

I’m over Cheetos. I’m trying to eat more healthy. Vegetables, fruits. Carrots, oranges, bananas. Whatever. Basically, the food food eats. The stuff on the isle always near the wall and smelling a little like fresh dirt, the one that always has some guy spraying water on the food’s food and some fat chick thumping gourds. Yeah, right, lady. :) Heh.

Anyway, it’s a big world, Jackie, and a man has to grow and learn new things. :)

Axe on May 6, 2013 at 1:31 AM

Schadenfreude on May 6, 2013 at 1:28 AM

Thank you, you know I love that one… and roses. :)

thatsafactjack on May 6, 2013 at 1:31 AM

I’ll bid you all a fond goodnight. Its been a pleasure, as always. See you soon.

thatsafactjack on May 6, 2013 at 1:31 AM

*lame salute*

Axe on May 6, 2013 at 1:32 AM

Last night, I was listening to some olddd tunes by an Aussie group. Took me back to my yout and created nostalgia. My favorite sentimental tunes band – Air Supply. Man, those tunes are tear-jerkers.

tommy71 on May 6, 2013 at 1:32 AM

La Cygne – Saint-Saens

thatsafactjack on May 6, 2013 at 1:26 AM

Very nice. Btw, lots of black swans in real life…in Perth/Australia. They are incredible.

Schadenfreude on May 6, 2013 at 1:33 AM

Nite, Jackie.

tommy71 on May 6, 2013 at 1:34 AM

Nite Jackie

Don’t let fools affect you. The world is full of weeds.

————
Axe, RWM must have fallen asleep in the chair. Not to worry. She works hard.

Thank you all for very good music.

Bmore

Schadenfreude on May 6, 2013 at 1:42 AM

Schadenfreude on May 6, 2013 at 1:42 AM

:)

Axe on May 6, 2013 at 1:44 AM

Um. Back on topic. Flying Jews: I’m for it.

I’m out. Activating pure lurk for about an hour, then deactivating all together.

Hollah if you need anything. Beep or something.

Axe on May 6, 2013 at 1:49 AM

What happened to the cheetos? :)

thatsafactjack on May 6, 2013 at 1:24 AM

They were eaten by AllahsNippleHair.

John the Libertarian on May 6, 2013 at 2:06 AM

Good Morning HA!

Naturally Curly or Renalin-
did you watch the opening for morning joe?

I’m sure it was totally about Cruz and their daily gun rant, forget about benghazi…

I didn’t watch any of the sunday shows, did anyone mention one word about benghazi?

cmsinaz on May 6, 2013 at 6:32 AM

Happy Monday, Y’all

If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.

- John Quincy Adams
“A Matter of Leadership” My take.

kingsjester on May 6, 2013 at 6:35 AM

S Rhea ‏@ladynra1 5h

RT @ColorMeRed: ARCHIVES: BENGHAZI:White House Watched Benghazi Attacked And Didn’t Respond – Forbes http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2012/10/24/breaking-news-white-house-watched-benghazi-attacked-and-didnt-respond/ … . . #BENGHAZI

ted c on May 6, 2013 at 6:39 AM

kingsjester on May 6, 2013 at 6:35 AM

good one KJ…when you look up leadership in the dictionary, dear leader’s mug is not there that’s for sure

cmsinaz on May 6, 2013 at 6:45 AM

ted c on May 6, 2013 at 6:39 AM

absolutely shameful….
this will be swept under the rug if the lsm has anything to say about it…gotta make hillary the next president of the us…they have their marching orders…

cmsinaz on May 6, 2013 at 6:48 AM

cmsinaz on May 6, 2013 at 6:45 AM

Thank you, ma’am.

It’s about “Walking the Line”, not drawing one.

kingsjester on May 6, 2013 at 6:49 AM

kingsjester on May 6, 2013 at 6:35 AM

“Wish we had a Reagan now.” Yes, but… maybe that is all of our jobs now. We need a million points of light or more.
Start by shining the light on Benghazi.

indypat on May 6, 2013 at 6:50 AM

indypat on May 6, 2013 at 6:50 AM

You’re right.

kingsjester on May 6, 2013 at 6:53 AM

***** GoodMorning Peeps and PeepEttes—:)

canopfor on May 6, 2013 at 6:59 AM

mika doesn’t disappoint, trashes palin and the nra convention…forget everything else…

morning Canopfor!!

cmsinaz on May 6, 2013 at 7:03 AM

cmsinaz on May 6, 2013 at 7:03 AM

Yep. Pay no attention to the Mushroom Clouds over the Middle East.

kingsjester on May 6, 2013 at 7:05 AM

kingsjester on May 6, 2013 at 7:05 AM

indeed…

cmsinaz on May 6, 2013 at 7:08 AM

I didn’t watch any of the sunday shows, did anyone mention one word about benghazi?

cmsinaz on May 6, 2013 at 6:32 AM

cmsinaz:

GoodMorning CMS,heres a Linky in the latest,I’ve been
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KafirRob ‏@robfit 3m

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KafirRob ‏@robfit 2m

State Dept Counterterrorism Official: Hillary tried end run around their dept on night of #benghazi http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/05/clinton-sought-end-run-around-counterterrorism-bureau-on-night-benghazi-attack/#ixzz2STdAtcLx
View summary
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Results for #benghazi
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canopfor on May 6, 2013 at 7:08 AM

I didn’t watch any of the sunday shows, did anyone mention one word about benghazi?

cmsinaz on May 6, 2013 at 6:32 AM

cmsinaz:

GoodMorning CMS,heres a Linky in the latest,I’ve been
up a tad late,monitering Syria/Israels…Threats/Counter-Threats!


Expand
CNSNews.com CNSNews.com ‏@cnsnews 2m

U.S. Diplomat Will Tell Issa’s Committee He Thought #Benghazi ‘Was A Terrorist Attack From the Get-Go’ http://ow.ly/kJUdy
Collapse

KafirRob ‏@robfit 3m

Here it comes – #Benghazi RT @DRUDGE_REPORT: WHISTLEBLOWER: ‘MY JAW HIT THE FLOOR’ AS WH BLAMED YOUTUBE VIDEO… http://drudge.tw/ZKQp16

KafirRob ‏@robfit 2m

State Dept Counterterrorism Official: Hillary tried end run around their dept on night of #benghazi http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/05/clinton-sought-end-run-around-counterterrorism-bureau-on-night-benghazi-attack/#ixzz2STdAtcLx
View summary
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Results for #benghazi
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https://twitter.com/search?q=%23benghazi

canopfor on May 6, 2013 at 7:10 AM

someone with a little common sense on mj? paraphrase-most crimes occur with illegal handguns and folks who would not go through a background check…they share guns on the streets

cmsinaz on May 6, 2013 at 7:11 AM

mika doesn’t disappoint, trashes palin and the nra convention…forget everything else…

morning Canopfor!!

cmsinaz on May 6, 2013 at 7:03 AM

cmsinaz:

Typical on MSMLSD,tried twice to send you linky’s!

Some Good Info linkys!


Results for #benghazi

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23benghazi

canopfor on May 6, 2013 at 7:15 AM

cmsinaz on May 6, 2013 at 7:11 AM

good morning and thanks for the heads up.

renalin on May 6, 2013 at 7:16 AM

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canopfor on May 6, 2013 at 7:20 AM

Barry O. needs a vacation!

albill on May 6, 2013 at 7:21 AM

Thanks for the linkies Canopfor!!

chuckie todd defending dear leader on syria…the red line was over interpreted…yeah right chuckie…

cmsinaz on May 6, 2013 at 7:23 AM

kingsjester ‏@kingsjester
Johnny Cash “Walked the Line”. Obama keeps redrawing it.

kingsjester on May 6, 2013 at 7:25 AM

the red line was over interpreted…yeah right chuckie…

cmsinaz on May 6, 2013 at 7:23 AM

It was a mirage….
Heat..desert an all.

Electrongod on May 6, 2013 at 7:30 AM

so dear leader will be campaigning again this week on a ‘jobs tour’…the new squirrel of the week…

cmsinaz on May 6, 2013 at 7:30 AM

Electrongod on May 6, 2013 at 7:30 AM

heh

cmsinaz on May 6, 2013 at 7:31 AM

Sh*t,and Oops,…on Double Linky posts!!

canopfor on May 6, 2013 at 7:50 AM

Thanks for the linkies Canopfor!!

chuckie todd defending dear leader on syria…the red line was over interpreted…yeah right chuckie…

cmsinaz on May 6, 2013 at 7:23 AM

cmsinaz:

Anytime CMS,and the Sarin Gas attack is being pointed at the
SyrianRebelGoons??:)

canopfor on May 6, 2013 at 7:57 AM

Hmmmm Canopfor

cmsinaz on May 6, 2013 at 8:03 AM

My take.

kingsjester on May 6, 2013 at 6:35 AM

stop being a parasitic freeloader already. do the right thing and buy some ad space

Foxhound on May 6, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Unfortunately, you’ve grown up hearing voices that incessantly warn of government as nothing more than some separate, sinister entity that’s at the root of all our problems. Some of these same voices also do their best to gum up the works. They’ll warn that tyranny always lurking just around the corner. You should reject these voices. Because what they suggest is that our brave, and creative, and unique experiment in self-rule is somehow just a sham with which we can’t be trusted.

vs.

Public servants say, always with the best of intentions, “What greater service we could render if only we had a little more money and a little more power.” But the truth is that outside of its legitimate function, government does nothing as well or as economically as the private sector.

Yet any time you and I question the schemes of the do-gooders, we’re denounced as being opposed to their humanitarian goals. It seems impossible to legitimately debate their solutions with the assumption that all of us share the desire to help the less fortunate. They tell us we’re always “against,” never “for” anything.

http://kingsjester.wordpress.com/2013/05/06/a-matter-of-leadership/

Interesting, KJ. Especially in the light of failed leadership with respect to Syria. Funny how the former attitude creates a weaker nation than the latter, despite its protests to the contrary. And the second guy is supposed to be the nationalist jingo.

The administration’s ultimatum now seems like cheap talk, and it illustrates the risks of carelessly drawing red lines and issuing highly public threats that won’t be enforced.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/05/opinion/sunday/dont-draw-that-red-line.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 — (from above)

“seems like” — ?

Axe on May 6, 2013 at 1:59 PM

stop being a parasitic freeloader already. do the right thing and buy some ad space

Foxhound on May 6, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Here. Take this Kleenex, dry your tears, and go write your own Blog.

If, you can string two sentences together coherently.

kingsjester on May 6, 2013 at 2:32 PM

stop being a parasitic freeloader already. do the right thing and buy some ad space

Foxhound on May 6, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Stop meddling in other businessed, you busy body.

We love links, incl. kingsjester, RWM and etc. If HA would mind, they’d take care of their own business. They are still an independent co.

Schadenfreude on May 6, 2013 at 2:55 PM

businessed = businesses

Schadenfreude on May 6, 2013 at 2:55 PM

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