Random man confirmed by Senate to lead world’s greatest military

posted at 6:41 pm on February 26, 2013 by Allahpundit

He’s not random, though. A truly random man wouldn’t have earned the sturdy liberal support that Hagel’s Israel-focused Jew-baiting and left-of-Obama foreign policy brought him. In the end, despite weeks of dirt being dug up, not a single Democrat voted against him at any stage of the process. (That’s not including Reid’s no vote last week, as that was purely procedural.)

Which is not to say he’s a bad guy. It may be, as Chuck Schumer believes, that he’s just … slow. Congrats, America.

The final vote: 58-41, which is a bit closer than the 71-27 margin on cloture earlier today. There are 15 Republicans who think voters are too dumb to realize that the cloture vote is the one that assured Hagel’s confirmation and that, by voting yes on that and no on the meaningless final vote, they can pretend that they “opposed” Hagel. And in fairness, they’re probably right; most voters likely are that dumb. But let’s name those 15 anyway:

Alexander
Ayotte
Blunt
Burr
Chambliss
Coburn
Collins
Corker
Flake
Graham
Hatch
McCain
Murkowski
Sessions
Thune

The usual reason to vote yes on cloture and no on the final vote is out of deference to the president’s right, within limits, to pick the cabinet he wants. You don’t filibuster a guy just because his policy preferences tilt liberal; I wouldn’t even filibuster him for his musings on Israel, as objectionable as they are. If Obama wants a SecDef who thinks that way, that’s what America gets for reelecting him. Where the filibuster comes in is when the nominee simply isn’t qualified to do the job for which he’s been nominated. I can’t believe a single one of those 15, let alone the scores of Democrats who voted for this guy, seriously believes he’s prepared to run the Defense Department. They’re sticking the military with someone who, at best, will be an empty Republican suit while advisors who know what they’re doing, like Michele Flournoy, make the hard decisions. The next time McCain and Graham pound the table about defense cuts or O’s foreign policy, remember that they both voted to send Chuck Hagel on to the final vote. That’s how serious they are.

As for Republicans voting yes, there were four: Cochran, Johanns, Shelby, and … Rand Paul, who voted no twice on cloture. That’s the most bizarre vote array on a nominee I could imagine. You could vote yes on cloture and on confirmation if you thought Hagel was a meritorious nominee. You could vote no on both if you thought he wasn’t qualified. You could vote yes on cloture and no on confirmation if you thought Obama deserved enough deference as president to have his nominee face a final up-or-down vote. You could vote no on cloture and yes on the final vote, as Rand Paul did, if … why? Here’s Paul’s reasoning:

“I voted no because I wanted more information and I think that part of what the Senate does is try to get information about the nominees,” Paul told reporters in the basement of the Capitol after Hagel’s confirmation Tuesday. “I’ve said all along that I give the president some prerogative in choosing his political appointees.”

“There are many things I disagree with Chuck Hagel on, there are many things I disagree with John Kerry on, there are very few things I agree with the president on, but the president gets to choose political appointees,” Paul said.

Asked if he ever got the information he wanted about Hagel, Paul said that he hadn’t.

If “the president gets to choose political appointees” is sufficient reason to vote yes, then (a) we should get rid of the Senate’s advise-and-consent responsibility and (b) at the very least we should not be filibustering nominees, as Rand Paul voted to do twice. Even if he did that purely to squeeze the White House for more information, why would he vote yes on the final vote when they never gave him that information? And if the president’s entitled to his nominee of choice, why would Paul demand more info about Hagel in the first place? Just rubber-stamp him. Vote yes on every vote, no questions asked.

If you want to know the real reason Paul voted yes, read this. He overplayed his hand earlier today by voting no on cloture; he’s trying to walk a line between mainstream conservatives and his dad’s supporters and casting two votes for filibustering Hagel was, at a minimum, one too many for the latter group. So he did to the libertarians what McCain and Graham tried to do to conservatives — he voted the wrong way on the important vote, which was cloture, and then tried to appease them by voting their way on the meaningless final vote whose outcome was assured. Doubt it’ll work for him. He’ll have to make it up to them somehow.


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annoyinglittletwerp on February 26, 2013 at 7:40 PM

If you actually believe that, you’re not worth engaging. Congratulations on living up your screen name.

Armin Tamzarian on February 26, 2013 at 7:42 PM

Armin Tamzarian:

ALT is correct,Hagel will side with PalestianianGoons,
and will bash Israel,and thats why Obama picked Hagel!

canopfor on February 26, 2013 at 7:52 PM

its not that hard to run the defense department…hagel will have a lot of competent underling to do the real work

nonpartisan on February 26, 2013 at 7:06 PM

Sure You surround yourself with enough layers of people, you are insulated enough to blame yourself into safety when the shit hits the fan.

Kind of like Obama.

portlandon on February 26, 2013 at 7:52 PM

Hagel has FAILURE written all over him. He should fit right in with the rest of the herd.

GarandFan on February 26, 2013 at 7:54 PM

Maybe Chuck Hagel isn’t a “Washington type” then. Maybe he’s a good old, cornfed Nebraska boy with some common-sense, old school conservative ideas of foreign policy that have been almost eradicated entirely from the modern GOP after decades of utterly destructive neoconservative influence.

Chuck Hagel is the Washington outsider that conservatives claim to want. Instead, they reject him because he’s not establishment enough on certain issues.

Armin Tamzarian on February 26, 2013 at 7:29 PM

Everyone who spends more than 1 term in Washingtion is an insider. Once people taste power, they find it hard to let go.

nobar on February 26, 2013 at 7:54 PM

Armin Tamzarian on February 26, 2013 at 7:44 PM

Not my point, but okay.

Jeff Weimer on February 26, 2013 at 7:56 PM

Congratulations Senators!
You have now concluded that it’s okay to have a SecDef that actually hates the military. Nice.

JusDreamin on February 26, 2013 at 7:57 PM

Congrats, Chuckie. Now don your pointy cap and join the rest of the dunces in the cabinet.

NebCon on February 26, 2013 at 7:57 PM

Do you think this makes our enemies happy or sad…?

Seven Percent Solution on February 26, 2013 at 8:00 PM

What a pathetic bunch of douchebags are the Senate Republicans. I am increasingly inclined to work for a 70% conservative House and a 90% Democrap Senate…having these a$$-fu**ing nitwits in the Senate is of no value. It’s a who’s who of RINO vermin, with one very sad surprise:

Alexander
Ayotte (ugh)
Blunt
Burr
Chambliss
Coburn
Collins
Corker
Flake
Graham
Hatch
McCain
Murkowski
Sessions
Thune

Thune, Coburn, Hatch, McCain, Chambliss and Collins are gone in the next cycle. Mrozinski isn’t a Republican. Alexander, Blunt, Corker, Burr, and Graham are complete RINOs and widely hated.

Sessions is completely overrated — let me remind you he voted to confirm the worst Att’y General ever to serve. Ayotte just broke my heart.

Jaibones on February 26, 2013 at 8:01 PM

Your basis for calling him an idiot is… what, exactly? A crappy confirmation hearing? Plenty of highly-qualified, smart people would choke during something like that.

Armin Tamzarian on February 26, 2013 at 7:19 PM

And besides, he’s an anti-Semite…which makes him imminently acceptable to paulbots and other assorted ‘libertarians’.

Solaratov on February 26, 2013 at 8:03 PM

2014, Lindsey Graham. 2014.

SouthernGent on February 26, 2013 at 8:05 PM

Only cost the lives of four good men.
Across the Potomac, that’s not even a “coffee break”.

Another Drew on February 26, 2013 at 7:27 PM

Secretary WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE? That despicable loser is the left’s favorite choice for the NEXT derelict in chief.

scalleywag on February 26, 2013 at 8:05 PM

McHagel’s Navy

BobMbx on February 26, 2013 at 8:07 PM

Why do Progs want, as their SecDef, a DUNCE, who attended the same amount of colleges that Sarah Palin did, but had a lower grade point average (D)?

I guess they want people just like them to occupy high offices.
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Why do Progs want, as their SecDef, a man, who is IGNORANT of the foreign policy positions of the administration in which he wants to serve?

I guess they want their SecDef to be just like them.
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Why do Progs want, as their SecDef, a man, who was described by an Obama adviser as “BAFFLING” and “INCOMPREHENSIBLE”?

I guess they want their SecDef to be described just as they are.
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Why do Progs want to put into office a BIGOT, who has made anti-Semitic comments frequently, has demonstrated homophobia, and is even against abortion even in the case of rape?

I guess they want a “bigoted hater” just like themselves.

Resist We Much on February 26, 2013 at 8:09 PM

It will be interesting to see whether picking Kerry or Hagel will turn out to be a bigger blunder by Obama.

Christien on February 26, 2013 at 8:13 PM

The usual reason to vote yes on cloture and no on the final vote is out of deference to the president’s right, within limits, to pick the cabinet he wants. You don’t filibuster a guy just because his policy preferences tilt liberal;

You’re just wrong on this AllahP.

A Senator can vote either way, for any reason, and a ‘yea’ vote is just as valid as a ‘nay’ vote.

As an elected Senator, you are provided with two options on a confirmation vote, ‘yea’ or ‘nay’. There is no Article or clause in the Constitution that says anything about why a Senator has to vote one way or the other. And it specifically does not say “the President gets to appoint whoever he wants”…..anywhere.

If the President has a right to install the Cabinet of his choosing, the ‘Advice and Consent’ clause wouldn’t exist.

BobMbx on February 26, 2013 at 8:19 PM

Do you think this makes our enemies happy or sad…?

Seven Percent Solution on February 26, 2013 at 8:00 PM

Seven Percent Solution: *Ecstatic*:)

canopfor on February 26, 2013 at 8:22 PM

For those keeping score at home, this is one of the greatest headlines at HotAir.

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on February 26, 2013 at 8:31 PM

So our Grand Old Puppets can’t find the backbone to go against Hagel. Good luck finding one on shut-it-down. That single star in my state flag is looking prettier and prettier.

Limerick on February 26, 2013 at 8:38 PM

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KOOLAID2 on February 26, 2013 at 8:44 PM

This dolt will lead our military towards third world status and it will take decades to recover from his mindless stewardship. It took over 200 years to build this once great Republic but it will take Obama and his goons less than 10 years to bring it down . . . these are sad times.

rplat on February 26, 2013 at 8:48 PM

If Obama wants a SecDef who thinks that way, that’s what America gets for reelecting him.

77% of a particlar religious faith who voted for Obama as well. Too bad elections have consequences.

Hog Wild on February 26, 2013 at 8:48 PM

Hog Wild on February 26, 2013 at 8:48 PM

I’m part of the 23%. Let Hagel be THEIR Sec Def.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 26, 2013 at 8:58 PM

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KOOLAID2 on February 26, 2013 at 8:44 PM

And Rand too

Schadenfreude on February 26, 2013 at 9:11 PM

I’m part of the 23%. Let Hagel be THEIR Sec Def.
annoyinglittletwerp on February 26, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Bless you. Most of us here stand with you.

NebCon on February 26, 2013 at 9:13 PM

NebCon on February 26, 2013 at 9:13 PM

Thanks. I’m actually a cradle conservative. Until November of ’80, I thought that all Jews voted that same way my parents did. Though I was only 10, Hebrew school the day after the election, taught me otherwise.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 26, 2013 at 9:16 PM

I’m part of the 23%. Let Hagel be THEIR Sec Def.
annoyinglittletwerp on February 26, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Then, Hagel should become a Democrat.

Obama is going to use Hagel – my Republican SecDef – give him cover for all of the things he is planning to do to the military.

Resist We Much on February 26, 2013 at 9:19 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on February 26, 2013 at 9:16 PM

I visited Israel in the early 90s. It was clear to me then that if American Jews had to live a stone’s throw away from their potential destruction, they’d be a lot more supportive of Reagan conservatism.

NebCon on February 26, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Rumor was Deb Fischer was going to vote yes. She is from Hagels home state of Nebraska. Instead, she did the right thing and voted no.

KMav on February 26, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Chuck Hagel is the Washington outsider that conservatives claim to want.

Armin Tamzarian on February 26, 2013 at 7:29 PM

Outsiders, yes. Half-wits, imbeciles, idiots, sloths who can’t prepare for their hearings, no. That’s why conservatives dislike Hagel.

Part of why. His anti-semitism is also revolting.

talkingpoints on February 26, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Outsiders, yes. Half-wits, imbeciles, idiots, sloths who can’t prepare for their hearings, no. That’s why conservatives dislike Hagel.

Part of why. His anti-semitism is also revolting.

talkingpoints on February 26, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Not seeing how this differs from anyone he would have appointed.

besser tot als rot on February 26, 2013 at 10:54 PM

Re Rand: I say better he voted “No” when it mattered and “Yes” when it didn’t, unlike those listed above.

But, again, I’m not seeing how an incompetent, Jew-hating, imbecile like Hagel would be any different than anyone Obama would have nominated.

besser tot als rot on February 26, 2013 at 10:57 PM

And down goes Paul-Rand, you just lost the presidency in 2016 with your pro-muslim, anti-Israel vote to confirm Hagel.You just can’t take the kook out of a libertarian.

redware on February 27, 2013 at 12:32 AM

Another major step forward in Obama’s plan to fundamentally and radically alter the United States military. This move will help drive the remaining patriots who would not turn their guns on their fellow citizens if ordered by their socialist commander-in-chief, and ultimately replace it with a liberal radicals who will transform the military from defending it’s people from foriegn invaders, to one who defends the government from it’s own people, who liberals feel are the true enemy.

Perhaps they feel that their socialist, communist or Muslim friends will not take advantage of a weakened US military that will be developed for defense against it’s own citizens rather then foriegn threats.However, as usual they are wrong.

I say that you better have your children and grandchildren learn Chinese, Russian or Arabic sometime in the future. It will unfortunately likely come in very handy for them during their lifetimes.

Rockshine on February 27, 2013 at 1:05 AM

Chosen for his mallebility, no doubt.

TimBuk3 on February 27, 2013 at 8:56 AM

http://theweek.com/article/index/240607/sen-rand-pauls-puzzling-vote-for-chuck-hagel-smart-politics

Well at least he got the attention of Yahoo News and it’s voters. Oh wait, they only saw his name, they didn’t read the article.

After all we live in the CELEBRITY STATES OF AMERICA. Maybe if Rand Paul would Mom Dance with Fallon he’d be cool, or eat a donut with Dave Letterman.

PappyD61 on February 27, 2013 at 9:04 AM

Here is an early picture of our disinguished new Defense Secretary, as captured at a demonstration a few years ago.

MTF on February 27, 2013 at 9:06 AM

Some people owe Senator Deb Fischer (R-NE) an apology…
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/02/21/the-60th-vote-republican-richard-shelby-to-support-hagel/comment-page-1/#comments

weaselyone on February 27, 2013 at 9:12 AM

They’re sticking the military with someone who, at best, will be an empty Republican suit while advisors who know what they’re doing, like Michele Flournoy, make the hard decisions

Thats what most of these top level appointee positions are. Theyre resume building bs jobs or a cushy retirement. THese people are the public faces of these institutions or policies, not the crafters or implementers of the actual policy

snoopicus on February 27, 2013 at 9:39 AM

The real work is always done by the professional lifers in these places

snoopicus on February 27, 2013 at 9:41 AM

Chambliss is a disgrace to the state of Georgia and to the Nation. He is obviously voting his true colors and doing as much damage to conservatism as he can before he quits. He needs a punch in the nose to bring him back to reality. He would understand nothing else. Lying weasel, elitist, moron.

ultracon on February 27, 2013 at 9:58 AM

And McCain is obviously showing his age. What a total idiot!

ultracon on February 27, 2013 at 9:58 AM

It will be a cold day in Hell that I give the GOP one red cent of what their president leaves me……………………

ultracon on February 27, 2013 at 10:00 AM

Does this mean we can have a random Senate.

Let’s start tomorrow!

dissent555 on February 27, 2013 at 10:38 AM

McCain is obviously showing his age. What a total idiot!

Idiocy, senility and any other malady from which he may suffer is no hindrance for serving in the Senate, as long as he wins the hearts and minds of AZ voters, and as long as he continues to reach out to the other side of of the aisle and stick it to his own party more often than not.

hawkeye54 on February 27, 2013 at 11:04 AM

Which is not to say he’s a bad guy.
POSTED AT 6:41 PM ON FEBRUARY 26, 2013 BY ALLAHPUNDIT

I can’t see AP’s gonna get away with that here.

verbaluce on February 27, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Dim Dem: Chuck Hagel is sooooo smart. He went to Brown. That’s Ivy League, you know!

Me: Brown Institute for Radio and Television in Mendota Heights, MN. That’s definitely NOT Ivy League.

Resist We Much on February 27, 2013 at 12:59 PM

Maybe they’ll name a drone after Hagel.

The kind that ends up in Iranian hands.

profitsbeard on February 27, 2013 at 3:01 PM

If you want to know the real reason Paul voted yes, read this. He overplayed his hand earlier today by voting no on cloture; he’s trying to walk a line between mainstream conservatives and his dad’s supporters and casting two votes for filibustering Hagel was, at a minimum, one too many for the latter group. So he did to the libertarians what McCain and Graham tried to do to conservatives — he voted the wrong way on the important vote, which was cloture, and then tried to appease them by voting their way on the meaningless final vote whose outcome was assured. Doubt it’ll work for him. He’ll have to make it up to them somehow.

What does it say about “Dad’s supporters” if Hagel’s hostility toward Israel is a “feature” not a “bug”?

BD57 on February 27, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Suggest a bit of understanding here. At some point you have to assess if your vote will make a difference to the outcome. If it won’t, then you have a secondary question as to how you will fight the next battle. It’s not a secret ballot – there will be other fights.

When there is no more to be gained by continued conflict, you can put down your weapon.

You may have more influence if you have not completely drawn yourself as a partisan hardliner on all matters.

Everybody knows that Hagel is a disaster, including Democrats, but even they thought that their votes were presumed and did not matter – in fact, voting against would have caused a bigger conflict than any ripples caused by Republican dissent.

Everyone knows Hagel is a fool. What remains is how he handles Benghazi.

virgo on February 28, 2013 at 1:33 AM

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