GAO: Yeah, ObamaCare may end up adding $6.2 trillion to long-term deficit

posted at 2:01 pm on February 26, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

Ah, memories.

“I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits — either now or in the future. (Applause.)  I will not sign it if it adds one dime to the deficit, now or in the future, period.”

But as we’re all painfully aware by now, “If you like your health care plan, you can keep it” is far from the only grandiose ObamaCare promise that just isn’t destined to live up to the hype. At a hearing this morning, Senate Budget Committee ranking Republican Sen. Jeff Sessions revealed the findings of a Government Accountability Office report he requested, and… surprise: GAO surmises that ObamaCare’s many costly funding mechanisms are not likely to be enough to prevent the program from adding to our debt.

A new government report dramatically proves that the promises made assuring the nation that the largest new entitlement program… would not add a dime to the long- or short-term debt of America, was false. … The results of this brand-new report confirm everything critics and Republicans were saying about the cost of this bill and reveal the dramatic falsehoods that were used to push it to passage. … According to GAO, on a realistic set of assumptions, the health care law will increase the deficit by 0.7 of one percent of GDP, or roughly $6.2 trillion over the next 75 years. $6.2 trillion, unfunded liabilities of the United States. In other words, the GAO reveals that the big tax increases in the bill come nowhere close to covering the even more massive spending.

Andrew Stiles breaks it down at National Review:

The GAO report is essentially the first attempt to isolate and calculate Obamacare’s impact on the deficit beyond the traditional ten-year budget window. …

The baseline scenario is far more optimistic, largely because it does not take into account the concerns — expressed by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) Trustees, and Medicare’s chief actuary — about “whether certain cost-containment mechanisms included in PPACA can be sustained over the long term.”

The alternative scenario, which incorporates the more realistic “alternative projections” suggested by CBO, the CMS trustees, and the chief Medicare actuary, is even more dire. Under this scenario, the “primary deficit” increases by 0.7 percent of GDP over the 75-year period. The GAO does not put a dollar value on that figure, but Senate Budget Committee staff has calculated, and GAO has confirmed, that it would amount to a $6.2 trillion increase in the federal deficit.

As he points out, however, the GAO notes that even under the much-rosier baseline scenario in which ObamaCare’s many cost-containment experiments go off without a hitch, they “were not sufficient to prevent an unsustainable increase in debt held by the public” — and if there’s anything practical ObamaCare has succeeded in teaching us, it is to never trust the most optimistic scenario.


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DUH! Well, can’t resist the “We told you so” for all the trolls that insisted the right was lying about Obamacare’s ultimate costs.

totherightofthem on February 26, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Have the Leftists figured out yet that the Obama is turning out to be their worst nightmare?

Chip on February 26, 2013 at 2:06 PM

Democrats = American Communists.

Dirty little secret the ruling class are going to need tens of millions more to be paying taxes (think Amnesty) to keep the charade going in D.C. as long as possible. Maybe until they have succeeded in damaging the idea of private property rights and making property owners “cower” (AG Holders favorite word) to the state.

PappyD61 on February 26, 2013 at 2:06 PM

So.

Sincerely,
66 million moochers

hillsoftx on February 26, 2013 at 2:07 PM

……and before it all comes apart they’ll need to disarm the American citizenry.

PappyD61 on February 26, 2013 at 2:08 PM

Funny how the Govt. Accountability Office and the Congressional Budget Office only are coming out with more honest numbers after the election. The GAO was perfectly willing to believe the myth that this super awesome plan was going to go off without a hitch and drastically unrealistic assumptions.

Happy Nomad on February 26, 2013 at 2:08 PM

What? Are you saying Obumble lied?!?!? That just can’t be…..

dentarthurdent on February 26, 2013 at 2:08 PM

where’s the headline in our esteemed paper of record?

Steven McGregor on February 26, 2013 at 2:09 PM

Have the Leftists figured out yet that the Obama is turning out to be their worst nightmare?

Chip on February 26, 2013 at 2:06 PM

I beg to differ – he’s a dream come true for the letists.
He’s a nightmare to all the rest of us.

dentarthurdent on February 26, 2013 at 2:09 PM

Chirsie is going to support Obamacare:

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/02/christie_budget_details.html#incart_river_default

ChunkyLover on February 26, 2013 at 2:11 PM

add a few more billion, trillion….here’s a shocker.
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/02/christie_budget_details.html#incart_river_default

MontanaMmmm on February 26, 2013 at 2:11 PM

“I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits — either now or in the future. (Applause.) I will not sign it if it adds one dime to the deficit, now or in the future, period.”

Commander Zero doesn’t care about what he said, because neither does the adoring media nor the cattle who voted for him. He’s not accountable, and he knows it.

Besides, they’ve deified him.

All he’ll say is – the anticipated savings will come into full force by 2308.

And all will be well.

OhEssYouCowboys on February 26, 2013 at 2:11 PM

According to GAO, on a realistic set of assumptions, the health care law will increase the deficit by 0.7 of one percent of GDP, or roughly $6.2 trillion over the next 75 years. $6.2 trillion, unfunded liabilities of the United States

If the GAO is saying $6.2T over 75 years then in reality it is mostly likely 5 times that number.

I don’t care because Obama is awesome!

Ditkaca on February 26, 2013 at 2:12 PM

surprise: GAO surmises that ObamaCare’s many costly funding mechanisms are not likely to be enough to prevent the program from adding to our debt.

Surprise? who the heII is surprised by this?

SWalker on February 26, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Yay! Free healthcare for everyone!11!!!!!!1!1!

VibrioCocci on February 26, 2013 at 2:13 PM

About 50 years ago Senator Everett Dirksen said, “A million here, a million there and pretty soon you are talking about real money.”

We have really “progressed,” haven’t we.”

bw222 on February 26, 2013 at 2:13 PM

Chirsie is going to support Obamacare:

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/02/christie_budget_details.html#incart_river_default

ChunkyLover on February 26, 2013 at 2:11 PM

Why not? I think he has to know by now he doesn’t have a prayer of winning the GOP nomination in 2016(he’s got a better shot at the Dem nod at this point), so he may as well let it all hang out. And I mean that figuratively not literally!

Doughboy on February 26, 2013 at 2:14 PM

Chirsie is going to support Obamacare:

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/02/christie_budget_details.html#incart_river_default

ChunkyLover on February 26, 2013 at 2:11 PM

Yea, sorry, after the public blow-job he gave Obama after Super Storm Sandy, this isn’t a surprise either.

SWalker on February 26, 2013 at 2:14 PM

How is it possible that one report — requested by Sessions — conflicts so starkly with almost all other government assessments to confirm Republican talking points about the law? It’s simple: Sessions designed it that way.
The Alabama senator asked the office to estimate would would happen if the cost containment provisions in the law — the Independent Payment Advisory Board, excise tax on high-cost plans, and reductions in Medicare payments to providers — are “phased out over time” while the coverage provisions remain.
Unsurprisingly, the GAO concluded that if the portions of the law that were specifically designed to keep costs under control don’t go into effect, then the law won’t be effective in lowering health care costs. Sessions is touting the government expenditures included in the law — the affordability credits and Medicaid expansion — while ignoring its cost savings. The same report concluded that if “both the expansion of health care coverage and the full implementation and effectiveness of the cost-containment provisions” are sustained, “there was notable improvement in the longer-term outlook.

So in other words Jeff Sessions is a liar.

libfreeordie on February 26, 2013 at 2:15 PM

We can just cut foreign aid and that’ll cover it.

More seriously: 75 years out? That’s worthless. Nobody can come within a mile of what these numbers will be in 10 years much less 75 years.

I mean, this is worthless. I guess someone asked them to do a 75 year projection and they had to give one.

SteveMG on February 26, 2013 at 2:16 PM

Have the Leftists figured out yet that the Obama is turning out to be their worst nightmare?

Chip on February 26, 2013 at 2:06 PM

I beg to differ – he’s a dream come true for the leftists.
He’s a nightmare to all the rest of us.

That’s it.

The only ones on the left who have yet to figure out Barry will turn out to be their worst nightmare, are those on the bottom of the food chain at the government trough. Just as soon as the Leftists secure their Utopia, the spigot turns off as the takers, their votes no longer needed, will then be required to work keeping the Utopia up and running.

hawkeye54 on February 26, 2013 at 2:16 PM

About 50 years ago Senator Everett Dirksen said, “A million here, a million there and pretty soon you are talking about real money.”

We have really “progressed,” haven’t we.”

Yup. Actually that quote attributed to him was “a billion here” etc.

Now it can be revised to “A trillion here, a trillion there, and pretty soon you are talking about funny money.”

Monopoly money will have greater value.

hawkeye54 on February 26, 2013 at 2:18 PM

Yay! Free healthcare for everyone!11!!!!!!1!1!

VibrioCocci on February 26, 2013 at 2:13 PM

FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

And the freest free of the free freebies will be the free vodka.

The front line for what ails ya – under ObamaCare.

OhEssYouCowboys on February 26, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Speaking of the GAO, why doesn’t the GOP tout their report on government waste. If the President was sincere in keeping things running smoothly, then let’s discuss the waste being spent and end all those programs. It will amount to $100B to $200B per year. If he refuses to eliminate these programs, then the GOP can inform the American people that our President cares more about spending than your safety.

djaymick on February 26, 2013 at 2:19 PM

What? Are you saying Obumble lied?!?!? That just can’t be…..

dentarthurdent on February 26, 2013 at 2:08 PM

Yet the media and PoliFact will make you think that people like Ted Cruz and Sarah Palin (she of Death Panel fame) are the liars.

bw222 on February 26, 2013 at 2:20 PM

That’s all right. Once the death panels are fully unleashed, the costs will spiral downward very quickly.

Kensington on February 26, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Have the Leftists figured out yet that the Obama is turning out to be their worst nightmare?

Chip on February 26, 2013 at 2:06 PM

I beg to differ – he’s a dream come true for the leftists.
He’s a nightmare to all the rest of us.

dentarthurdent on February 26, 2013 at 2:09 PM

Perhaps for now that is the case – but it can’t last.

“You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.”

Abraham Lincoln

Chip on February 26, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Anybody want to start a pool as to when this Democrat Mess hit 6.2T deficit?
I’ll put in a dollar on twelve years.

countrybumpkin on February 26, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Monopoly money will have greater value.

hawkeye54 on February 26, 2013 at 2:18 PM

The US will start issuing these any day now.

SWalker on February 26, 2013 at 2:21 PM

ChunkyLover on February 26, 2013 at 2:11 PM

Looks like a ‘One-Term’ guv.

belad on February 26, 2013 at 2:22 PM

Yay! Free healthcare for everyone!11!!!!!!1!1!

and you know what anything “free” is really worth.

Free to stand in long, long lines for office visits. Wait 12 months for the surgery you need in 3 months, or be denied treatment altogether.

hawkeye54 on February 26, 2013 at 2:22 PM

Speaking of the GAO, why doesn’t the GOP tout their report on government waste.

djaymick on February 26, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Establishment Republicans; the kind that say the media isn’t “in the tank for Obama?” Those kind of Republicans?

bw222 on February 26, 2013 at 2:22 PM

And the freest free of the free freebies will be the free vodka.

The front line for what ails ya – under ObamaCare.

OhEssYouCowboys on February 26, 2013 at 2:19 PM

and it sure won’t be the good stuff either….

dentarthurdent on February 26, 2013 at 2:23 PM

“To die hating them, that was freedom.”
― George Orwell, 1984

And Lord how I loathe them.

Polish Rifle on February 26, 2013 at 2:24 PM

The US will start issuing these any day now.

Yup. And on our current path, in a couple of years, ten such similar bills may buy you a McDonalds Happy Meal.

hawkeye54 on February 26, 2013 at 2:25 PM

And the freest free of the free freebies will be the free vodka.

The front line for what ails ya – under ObamaCare.

OhEssYouCowboys on February 26, 2013 at 2:19 PM

and it sure won’t be the good stuff either….

dentarthurdent on February 26, 2013 at 2:23 PM

What you talkin bout Willis… Preston makes only the finest anti-freeze Vodka… (yes, there is a truly brutal joke hidden in there if you know where to find it)

SWalker on February 26, 2013 at 2:25 PM

Chirsie is going to support Obamacare:

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/02/christie_budget_details.html#incart_river_default

ChunkyLover on February 26, 2013 at 2:11 PM

As Jim Neighbors would say to his new hubby, “Surprise … surprise … surprise.”

bw222 on February 26, 2013 at 2:25 PM

and it sure won’t be the good stuff either….

dentarthurdent on February 26, 2013 at 2:23 PM

You mean you’ve never had vodka made from turnips [The State foodstuff in Commieland]?

OhEssYouCowboys on February 26, 2013 at 2:26 PM

“You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.”

Abraham Lincoln
Chip on February 26, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Bold – Those would be the leftists.
Some of us have never been fooled.

dentarthurdent on February 26, 2013 at 2:26 PM

Have the Leftists figured out yet that the Obama is turning out to be their worst nightmare?

Chip on February 26, 2013 at 2:06 PM

I beg to differ – he’s a dream come true for the leftists.
He’s a nightmare to all the rest of us.

That’s it.

The only ones on the left who have yet to figure out Barry will turn out to be their worst nightmare, are those on the bottom of the food chain at the government trough. Just as soon as the Leftists secure their Utopia, the spigot turns off as the takers, their votes no longer needed, will then be required to work keeping the Utopia up and running.

hawkeye54 on February 26, 2013 at 2:16 PM

I’m trying to be optimistic on this.

I hearken back to the old “progressive” Soviet Union.

The Progressive tyrants of that era had numerous advantages to keep their regime moving “Forward” – an education system that indoctrinated young minds in the glories of socialism.

A state controlled media that extolled the glories of socialism and security apparatus of Chekists that shuttled people off to mental institutions who refused to see the glories of socialism.

And yet it all fell apart within the span of a few years..

Chip on February 26, 2013 at 2:28 PM

You mean you’ve never had vodka made from turnips [The State foodstuff in Commieland]?

OhEssYouCowboys on February 26, 2013 at 2:26 PM

Can’t say that I have – as far as I know.
On the hard liquor line, I’m not much of a vodka drinker unless it’s in a Bloody Mary – I prefer tequila. My wife likes Grey Goose and my son likes 3 Olives.
But hey – if we can get a free gubmint Obumblecare prescription for it, what the hell.

dentarthurdent on February 26, 2013 at 2:32 PM

“To die hating them, that was freedom.”
― George Orwell, 1984

And Lord how I loathe them.

Polish Rifle on February 26, 2013 at 2:24 PM

The Orwell tear continues!

Great stuff!

[NOTE - The IPAB has already collected, documented, codified and memorialized this post. You'll meet with it, again, when you're discussing a life-saving surgery with your 6 month-certified, vo-tech, medical assistant.]

OhEssYouCowboys on February 26, 2013 at 2:32 PM

dentarthurdent on February 26, 2013 at 2:32 PM

My apologies … I should’ve used the sarc tag.

In Commieland, and in Utopia, there are boiled turnips for breakfast, baked turnips for lunch and cold, raw turnips for dinner.

I figured I’d mock Commie/Utopia vodka, too.

OhEssYouCowboys on February 26, 2013 at 2:34 PM

And yet it all fell apart within the span of a few years..

Chip on February 26, 2013 at 2:28 PM

As I recall, that “Few Years” was 73 years.

SWalker on February 26, 2013 at 2:35 PM

The Orwell tear continues!

Great stuff!

[NOTE - The IPAB has already collected, documented, codified and memorialized this post. You'll meet with it, again, when you're discussing a life-saving surgery with your 6 month-certified, vo-tech, medical assistant.]

OhEssYouCowboys on February 26, 2013 at 2:32 PM

I’m making “List Making” my new hobby…

Polish Rifle on February 26, 2013 at 2:36 PM

I figured I’d mock Commie/Utopia vodka, too.

OhEssYouCowboys on February 26, 2013 at 2:34 PM

How much worse could it be than the “torpedo juice” my Dad’s uncle used to make in the Navy during WW2?
Of course he went blind from a bad batch of that stuff, and a couple others died, but hey – in Obumbleutopia we’ll need to trim the population some anyway….

dentarthurdent on February 26, 2013 at 2:37 PM

At some point you have to admit, “You’ve made enough” and can afford “your fair share”, because “you didn’t build that by yourself” somebody was your first grade teacher once, somebody built the road to your house. These people deserve a little “income redistribution”; some compensation for their “investment” in you.

RedManBlueState on February 26, 2013 at 2:38 PM

In Commieland, and in Utopia, there are boiled turnips for breakfast, baked turnips for lunch and cold, raw turnips for dinner.

I figured I’d mock Commie/Utopia vodka, too.

OhEssYouCowboys on February 26, 2013 at 2:34 PM

You sure it was Turnips? I could have sworn it was Beets. Hence the well known Russian delicacy Borscht… o_O

SWalker on February 26, 2013 at 2:38 PM

As I recall, that “Few Years” was 73 years.

SWalker on February 26, 2013 at 2:35 PM

Ya – and I was hoping to live to see the end of Obumble’s socialist utopia.

dentarthurdent on February 26, 2013 at 2:39 PM

A state controlled media that extolled the glories of socialism and security apparatus of Chekists that shuttled people off to mental institutions who refused to see the glories of socialism.

And yet it all fell apart within the span of a few years..

True that….but then they had, at the time, the shining example of the Free Western Nations, led by the USA, the prosperity and freedom of which the Soviet government couldn’t prevent the people from learning. And of course the USA aided by doing its best to undermine the USSR.

Would it all fall apart if there no longer existed the USA as we’ve know it, and there were no longer living examples of what could be?

hawkeye54 on February 26, 2013 at 2:40 PM

At some point you have to admit, “You’ve made enough” and can afford “your fair share”, because “you didn’t build that by yourself” somebody was your first grade teacher once, somebody built the road to your house. These people deserve a little “income redistribution”; some compensation for their “investment” in you.

RedManBlueState on February 26, 2013 at 2:38 PM

From each according to their ability, to each according to their need.

SWalker on February 26, 2013 at 2:40 PM

dentarthurdent on February 26, 2013 at 2:37 PM

In ObamaCare, it’s called Victory Vodka.

Polish Rifle [insert "Victory Gin" 1984 quote here].

:O)

OhEssYouCowboys on February 26, 2013 at 2:41 PM

From each according to their ability, to each according to their need.

SWalker on February 26, 2013 at 2:40 PM

Except I think Obumble’s version will be “from each according the government’s needs, to each according to what we decide you can have”.

dentarthurdent on February 26, 2013 at 2:42 PM

As I recall, that “Few Years” was 73 years.

SWalker on February 26, 2013 at 2:35 PM

Ya – and I was hoping to live to see the end of Obumble’s socialist utopia.

dentarthurdent on February 26, 2013 at 2:39 PM

Only the dead have seen the end of war Obamaism… o_O

SWalker on February 26, 2013 at 2:42 PM

“I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits — either now or in the future. (Applause.) I will not sign it if it adds one dime to the deficit, now or in the future, period.”

He didn’t add one dime to the deficit. It now appears he added 620 billion dimes to the deficit over the next 75 years just for OTaxaCare.

chemman on February 26, 2013 at 2:43 PM

You sure it was Turnips? I could have sworn it was Beets. Hence the well known Russian delicacy Borscht… o_O

Ah, beets and turnips, reliable cheap root veggies for the masses. Borscht is certainly a Russian staple….but turnips have been a turn to alternative for more expensive produce, such as arugula.

hawkeye54 on February 26, 2013 at 2:43 PM

You sure it was Turnips? I could have sworn it was Beets. Hence the well known Russian delicacy Borscht… o_O

SWalker on February 26, 2013 at 2:38 PM

LOL, one of them is a luxury, the other is a staple.

:OD

OhEssYouCowboys on February 26, 2013 at 2:44 PM

“So you’re saying it doesn’t a dime, right?”
Obama said with a sigh of relief and a self assured smile.

RedManBlueState on February 26, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Only the dead have seen the end of war Obamaism… o_O

SWalker on February 26, 2013 at 2:42 PM

Then maybe I can die honorably in the fight against it….
Perhaps it’s a good day to die….

dentarthurdent on February 26, 2013 at 2:45 PM

So, 82Billion per year in additional debt due to ObamaCare. I know, many on the left will say, $82 billion is chump change. However, a far cry from “Not an additional dime will be spent…”

stuartm80127 on February 26, 2013 at 2:45 PM

Except I think Obumble’s version will be “from each according the government’s needs, to each according to what we decide you can have”.

Of course in the USSR, it played out exactly in that way. The Soviets applied what they wanted from Marx in their own special way.

hawkeye54 on February 26, 2013 at 2:46 PM

So, 82Billion per year in additional debt due to ObamaCare. I know, many on the left will say, $82 billion is chump change. However, a far cry from “Not an additional dime will be spent…”

stuartm80127 on February 26, 2013 at 2:45 PM

If $82 billion is “chump change” when the government is spending it, why isn’t it “chump change” when it’s saving it by not spending it? These people have a cognitive dissonance that is almost awe-inspiring.

totherightofthem on February 26, 2013 at 2:47 PM

Does this analysis include the inevitable removal of Obamacare’s funding mechanisms like the medical device taxes, which were needed to show a deficit neutral plan but were never intended to be kept?

blammm on February 26, 2013 at 2:48 PM

You sure it was Turnips? I could have sworn it was Beets. Hence the well known Russian delicacy Borscht… o_O

Ah, beets and turnips, reliable cheap root veggies for the masses. Borscht is certainly a Russian staple….but turnips have been a turn to alternative for more expensive produce, such as arugula.

hawkeye54 on February 26, 2013 at 2:43 PM

Well, they did have to eat something since their potato crops mysteriously kept failing decade after decade no matter how many potatoes they planted. Bloody shame all those potatoes had to be ground up and soaked in water and then disposed because they were contaminated with bacterias and stuff.. o_O

On the other hand, at least they were able to boil the water and save it… ;P

SWalker on February 26, 2013 at 2:49 PM

And the freest free of the free freebies will be the free vodka.

The front line for what ails ya – under ObamaCare.

OhEssYouCowboys on February 26, 2013 at 2:19 PM

So, invest in reloading equipment because ammo is unobtainable or a still to give up and drown my sorrows in affordable potato spirits? I’m tired, but I think I’ll pass on the still.

freedomfirst on February 26, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Just a speed bump on the road to single payer, folks.

Common Sense Floridian on February 26, 2013 at 2:50 PM

A state controlled media that extolled the glories of socialism and security apparatus of Chekists that shuttled people off to mental institutions who refused to see the glories of socialism.

And yet it all fell apart within the span of a few years..

True that….but then they had, at the time, the shining example of the Free Western Nations, led by the USA, the prosperity and freedom of which the Soviet government couldn’t prevent the people from learning. And of course the USA aided by doing its best to undermine the USSR.

Would it all fall apart if there no longer existed the USA as we’ve know it, and there were no longer living examples of what could be?

hawkeye54 on February 26, 2013 at 2:40 PM

Crap… I neglected to consider that.

So maybe it’s time to be depressed… but I guess that you would have to see the good and bad of the rest of the ‘free world’ being that example.

Good that it could be that, but bad that the progressives will want to destroy freedom everywhere else.

Chip on February 26, 2013 at 2:50 PM

So, invest in reloading equipment because ammo is unobtainable or a still to give up and drown my sorrows in affordable potato spirits? I’m tired, but I think I’ll pass on the still.

freedomfirst on February 26, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Potatoes, you say?

There are no potatoes, in Utopian Vodka, supra.

OhEssYouCowboys on February 26, 2013 at 2:52 PM

Potatoes, you say?

There are no potatoes, in Utopian Vodka, supra.

OhEssYouCowboys on February 26, 2013 at 2:52 PM

Good thing. I imagine potatoes will be much more valuable as a food source. See? I’m already allocating my scarce resources.

freedomfirst on February 26, 2013 at 3:00 PM

So, invest in reloading equipment because ammo is unobtainable or a still to give up and drown my sorrows in affordable potato spirits? I’m tired, but I think I’ll pass on the still.

freedomfirst on February 26, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Potatoes, you say?

There are no potatoes, in Utopian Vodka, supra.

Is there no other vegetable that would be available which one could turn into drinkable spirits? :)

hawkeye54 on February 26, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Victory Gin!

In ObamaCare, it’s called Victory Vodka.

Polish Rifle [insert "Victory Gin" 1984 quote here].

:O)

OhEssYouCowboys on February 26, 2013 at 2:41 PM

“Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.”
― George Orwell, 1984

Polish Rifle on February 26, 2013 at 3:01 PM

Good thing. I imagine potatoes will be much more valuable as a food source. See? I’m already allocating my scarce resources.

freedomfirst on February 26, 2013 at 3:00 PM

We’ll all be singing praises to Commander Transparent, while we break our backs for the Motherland, on a collectivized farm.

Stay strong, Comrade … Utopia is near.

OhEssYouCowboys on February 26, 2013 at 3:02 PM

Erika, you forgot one thing….

unexpectedly!

Because at this point, what difference does it make?

can_con on February 26, 2013 at 3:03 PM

Good thing. I imagine potatoes will be much more valuable as a food source. See? I’m already allocating my scarce resources.

Ah, but the potato will be yet another item the Left will advocate for “environmentally friendly” alternative fuel, taking a vast portion out of the food chain just to create food shortages and starvation as a means of political and population control.

That, and the re-emergence of 5-year crop plans designed to fail miserably.

Stalin found the 5-year plan quite useful as a means of paring down the USSRs excess population.

hawkeye54 on February 26, 2013 at 3:04 PM

Let’s all say it at once “REPARATION” This piece of crap, ObamaCare is a guise for it.End of story

Lynken on February 26, 2013 at 3:04 PM

There are no potatoes, in Utopian Vodka, supra.

Is there no other vegetable that would be available which one could turn into drinkable spirits? :)

hawkeye54 on February 26, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Well, Corn is certainly out, since all the Corn in America will be required to make fuel that will cause American automobiles to quit working.

SWalker on February 26, 2013 at 3:06 PM

since all the Corn in America will be required to make fuel that will cause American automobiles to quit working.

As fully intended. Let the people walk, bicycle and use public transportation. Automobiles are to be reserved for our political and financial elites only.

hawkeye54 on February 26, 2013 at 3:13 PM

Let’s all say it at once “REPARATION” This piece of crap, ObamaCare is a guise for it.End of story

Lynken on February 26, 2013 at 3:04 PM

I’ve always thought this but at what point have reparations been enough? [rhetorical question] It would have been more palatable to add to each non-qualified person, an extra $100,000 in taxes. This way, it’s a perpeutal stream until something upsets the order.

freedomfirst on February 26, 2013 at 3:13 PM

You would think there would be a little concern about this from the MSM,since they are screaming about $80 or so billion in cuts.

docflash on February 26, 2013 at 3:17 PM

Wow! Who woulda thought?

Tater Salad on February 26, 2013 at 3:24 PM

O voters don’t care as long as they get their free stuff. They ain’t payin’ for it, they don’t care who does.

Bob's Kid on February 26, 2013 at 3:25 PM

You would think there would be a little concern about this from the MSM,since they are screaming about $80 or so billion in cuts.

docflash on February 26, 2013 at 3:17 PM

Oh for the love of God, it’s all Kabuki Theater Rope-a-Dope stuff. The 83 Billion accounts for 10 percent of the already imposed automatic 30 percent annual spending increase. In reality, everyone is being lied to and deceived, there is absolutely NO sequester, no spending cuts, no reigning in of runaway government spending.

What we are facing is a 100 percent unopposed 20 percent increase in government spending.

SWalker on February 26, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Given that this legislation only passed with the bare minimum of votes because it was supposedly budget neutral, was the bill legally passed? Do House Republicans have a mechanism to invalidate this legislation as it was passed under false pretenses?

talkingpoints on February 26, 2013 at 3:30 PM

Obama and company lied? Again? I’m beginning to see a pattern. Too bad the low information voters are blind.

GarandFan on February 26, 2013 at 3:32 PM

In reality, everyone (in government and the media)is being lyingied to and deceiving ed, there is absolutely NO sequester, no spending cuts, no reigning in of runaway government spending.

What we are facing is a 100 percent unopposed 20 percent increase in government spending.

SWalker on February 26, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Even if there is a sequester, there are no cuts in spending in the sense of spending less than we did the year before. We just aren’t increasing spending as much as Obama and the Democrats want, which will, of course, mean the end of life on earth as we know it./

talkingpoints on February 26, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Do House Republicans have a mechanism to invalidate this legislation as it was passed under false pretenses?

talkingpoints on February 26, 2013 at 3:30 PM

This question assumes fact not in evidence, to-wit, that the GOP Leadership actually wants to reduce government spending, or produce a budget neutral bill.

SWalker on February 26, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Polish Rifle on February 26, 2013 at 3:01 PM

PolishRifle, you’re gonna be my go-to-guy on 1984.

In the end, we’ll both be charged with Article 58 violations:

Article 58

OhEssYouCowboys on February 26, 2013 at 3:41 PM

That study is utterly bogus. The idea that the GAO can predict both the size of the GDP and the cost of Obamacare in 2050 is absurd. But Sessions got his press conference…I wonder how many taxpayer dollars were squandered so that he could get his sound bite. Oh, here’s a coincidence. Sessions’ next election is 2014.

urban elitist on February 26, 2013 at 3:53 PM

That study is utterly bogus. The idea that the GAO can predict both the size of the GDP and the cost of Obamacare in 2050 is absurd. But Sessions got his press conference…I wonder how many taxpayer dollars were squandered so that he could get his sound bite. Oh, here’s a coincidence. Sessions’ next election is 2014.

urban elitist on February 26, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Interesting, when the GAO informed us that Obamacare would save money, it was the bible according to leftists like you.

Eventually, you’ll be able to do math and see that Obamacare can not possibly, in any world, save money and most likely will add trillions to the deficit.

When was the last time that gov’t control of something saved money? Seriously?

Liberals – they never learn, are never honest, and are never consistent. One thing you can take to the bank, whatever they swear is the truth today they will swear is a lie tomorrow.

Monkeytoe on February 26, 2013 at 4:15 PM

Is there no other vegetable that would be available which one could turn into drinkable spirits? :)

hawkeye54 on February 26, 2013 at 3:00 PM

I’m working on a hybrid beet and rutabega – I’ll call it the beettabega. Should be good for fajitas on pita – but I’m more interested in what kind of liquor I can distill from it…..

dentarthurdent on February 26, 2013 at 4:33 PM

urban elitist on February 26, 2013 at 3:53 PM

You’re right. Medicare grew 11 TIMES FASTER than the GAO predicted it would.

As long as leftist loons and GOP that go along to get along are in charge the GDP growth will never be what the GAO predicts, and more people than ever will have to turn to Obamacare, so the growth in costs is even faster.

And anybody that believes the “doc fix” won’t be renewed every year, the IPAB will actually work, and that the excise tax on high cost plans (read: taxes on plans political donors can lobby their way out of) are really going into effect . . . you really are a loon.

PastorJon on February 26, 2013 at 4:37 PM

That study is utterly bogus. The idea that the GAO can predict both the size of the GDP and the cost of Obamacare in 2050 is absurd. But Sessions got his press conference…I wonder how many taxpayer dollars were squandered so that he could get his sound bite. Oh, here’s a coincidence. Sessions’ next election is 2014.

urban elitist on February 26, 2013 at 3:53 PM

So why do all you left-wingers believe whatever they say when the numbers appear to be in your favor.

Frankly I think the US is more likely to explode into civil war or be taken over entirely by China long before then, causing a GDP reset backwards by several decades.

dentarthurdent on February 26, 2013 at 4:41 PM

So in other words Jeff Sessions is a liar.

libfreeordie on February 26, 2013 at 2:15 PM

Nope, you are.

Obama’s new fiscal cliff offer would repeal the ‘doc-fix’

So libfreeordie, your screaming and crying is exposed to be a lie since your Barack Obama is already removing the cost-control mechanisms.

You should know better than to come here by now. You’re nothing more than an ignorant affirmative action fool whose advanced degree in black skin puts him at the education level of a third-grader. This is an adult discussion with people who have command of the facts, and you aren’t mentally or intellectually capable of operating at that level. You just sit here and smear feces all over your face and repeat the Barack Obama talking points you received this morning in big letter and crayon.

northdallasthirty on February 26, 2013 at 5:11 PM

Oh really? This comes as a real shocker!

Pardonme on February 26, 2013 at 5:15 PM

That study is utterly bogus. The idea that the GAO can predict both the size of the GDP and the cost of Obamacare in 2050 is absurd.

urban elitist on February 26, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Oops, there it is!

What’s the matter, urban liar? Suddenly you and your Barack Obama start screaming and pissing yourself and crying about how inaccurate the GAO is after using their forecasts to ram through your lies?

We recognize this. You’re really nothing more than a filthy tax-cheating welfare fraud, just like the vast majority of Obama supporters.

northdallasthirty on February 26, 2013 at 5:17 PM

So in other words Jeff Sessions is a liar.

libfreeordie on February 26, 2013 at 2:15 PM

Heh. You’re such the water carrier.

You did not protest when other GAO reports were skewed dishonestly to your liking. GFY.

CW on February 26, 2013 at 5:40 PM

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