Bad news: Budget standoff postpones work on gun control, immigration efforts

posted at 5:21 pm on February 26, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Well, it’s bad news for the White House, anyway, which can’t really afford to lose momentum on either, but especially so on gun control.  Roll Call’s Meredith Shiner reports that while a mark-up on gun-control legislation will take place this week as scheduled, all other work on the Obama administration’s other priorities will get pushed out to the spring while Congress wrestles with fast-approaching budget deadlines:

Senate action on two of President Barack Obama’s top priorities this year — gun violence and immigration — will likely be delayed until April at the earliest, as budget issues yet again consume all of Washington’s political oxygen and capital.

Though Senate Judiciary ChairmanPatrick J. Leahy, D-Vt., on Monday announced a Thursday markup for a series of gun bills, Congress must first address a March 27 deadline to avoid a government shutdown, the implementation of $85 billion in across-the-board spending cuts this year and a budget resolution. That means any gun violence measure is unlikely to hit the floor for another six weeks and that any immigration overhaul would be slated following the gun debate.

The White House seems resigned to the realities of pressing deadlines as well:

With the White House focused almost exclusively on pressuring Republicans to replace the sequester with a plan that includes targeted tax hikes, Senate aides suggested Monday that the president likely wouldn’t re-engage fully on gun issues until after budget matters had been resolved. Those aides added that any gun legislation won’t get the kind of significant consideration needed for passage until after the Easter recess.

In a precursor of speeches to come, Obama’s address to a bipartisan group of governors Monday was almost entirely centered on the sequester — there was no mention of gun control and only a passing mention of immigration.

The alternate headline here is Reality Temporarily Intrudes on Fantasy.  The sequester hits on Friday, and the continuing resolution expires four weeks from today.  Of the two, the latter is the much bigger deal, although the Nightmare on Sequester Street hysteria has ruled the media.  That could be a bit of political misdirection on the part of both parties, though, because the resolution of the CR will require much more give from all sides than the sequester, which Republicans feel with some justification they can ride out.  That may not be true for a government shutdown, which unlike the sequester will have an immediate and broad-based impact.

In contrast, there are no deadlines for either gun control or immigration, and only the latter is truly a pressing problem at the federal level.  The big “solution” for the former is the reimposition of a federal law that didn’t solve any problems in its first ten-year existence, and which would only apply to a small fraction of the declining number of homicide victims in the US anyway.  Border security has been a gaping problem for decades, and it’s been eight years now since the 9/11 Commission urged Congress to address it and the broken visa program.

A few weeks won’t make much difference in that debate, but the longer it takes for Congress to push gun-control legislation, the more resistance they will get on it.  The opposition has both facts and passion on their side, and that means the only chance for success that gun control had was a rush to pass legislation.


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Pres. Obama and Democrats.

CUT SPENDING

We did we Americans..

Your turn.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 26, 2013 at 5:25 PM

Well, it’s bad news for the White House, anyway, which can’t really afford to lose momentum on either, but especially so on gun control.
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Tee-Hee,Hopeys USS Transformational America,er,ProgTard Titanic,
has done slammed into a Gun Iceberg,that aught to slow them
down a tad!!

canopfor on February 26, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Memo to Congress:

Go golfing. Go back home and hold town halls. Go to the DR and hire prostitutes (Senators from NJ only). Go spend some time with your family.

Let sequestration happen. It’s a good start. But then, when you’ve had your rest, and feel it’s time to go back to DC and do the people’s business, see if you can get 4 or 5 more sequestrations, exactly like this one.

At least it involves some type of cutting…

JohnGalt23 on February 26, 2013 at 5:28 PM

How about unemployment? Time for talking about that yet? Time to show some of those leadership qualities the media is always boasting on 0 for?

Bmore on February 26, 2013 at 5:29 PM

One way to cut spending is for the two party evil money cult and all there enablers of the open borders to just allow the current crop of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS to use the same bus compaines they used last month to take the cash they are paid in home on their own illegal tickets.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 26, 2013 at 5:30 PM

I often wonder how the politicians get away with the PR of not doing their job. They play up the government shutting down as a nuclear disaster, and then bring up all these other issues and go on vacation (rather than dealing with the big huge scary disaster). There’s a real disconnect there, but then I don’t understand how to be a politician. Obviously the same types keep getting reelected.

Fenris on February 26, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Obama’s latest stunt on immigration should be the end of immigration reform during his term.

Obama deserves no victories.

ninjapirate on February 26, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Do not worry, they are setting up Boners monumental cave at the end of the week. Pass more tax increases with Democrat votes.

jjnco73 on February 26, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Stupid Hagel confirmed, by 58/41.

He/Biden/Kery make Obama look smart. He needs them to flank him, the Punk.

Schadenfreude on February 26, 2013 at 5:36 PM

I’m sure it was just a accident in the posting the last paragraph got cut off on the edit room floor so I wll help.

‘A few weeks won’t make much difference in the debate on immigration as the longer it takes for Obama, the Senate and Sen. Rubio to push amnesty, the more resistance they will all have up aginst them as all the polls show that the American public is more and more on the side of deportation as they grow ever more frustrated with the car crashes by illegalas, the crime, the wage slave crime, the flaunting of the rule of law by people who are not intitled to any protection under the U.S. Constitution other that a safe trip home.

I’m sure Ed will like my help.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 26, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Gun control delayed will mean gun control denied; unless he creates another crisis by ordering another mass murder to keep the issue alive.

singlemalt 18 on February 26, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Stupid Hagel confirmed, by 58/41.

He/Biden/Kery make Obama look smart. He needs them to flank him, the Punk.

Schadenfreude on February 26, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Integrity is officially dead in the U.S.

JPeterman on February 26, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Stupid Hagel confirmed, by 58/41.

He/Biden/Kery make Obama look smart. He needs them to flank him, the Punk.

Schadenfreude on February 26, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Rand voted for. Disappointing.

nobar on February 26, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Stupid Hagel confirmed, by 58/41.

Alas, as expected.

He/Biden/Kery make Obama look smart less stupid.

In no way can any appointments however unqualified make Barry look smart. Why such appointments are made to fill the posts in Barry’s admin is to feed his ego, they can’t be or appear to be smarter than he is, which is a low threshold. And it matters not a bit to those pulling the Boy Kings strings. They are far from stupid.

hawkeye54 on February 26, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Do not worry, they are setting up Boners monumental cave at the end of the week. Pass more tax increases with Democrat votes.

If the Republicans piss if their entire base they win in Boehnerworld…right?

18-1 on February 26, 2013 at 5:42 PM

It’s a self-made clusterfark, to win.

Obama is the biggest charlatanic thug the nation ever knew.

Schadenfreude on February 26, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Rand voted for. Disappointing.

nobar on February 26, 2013 at 5:41 PM

I thought he explicitly voted against, or was that with someone else?

Gotta wonder if he’s trying not to get ostracized by the GOP before he can even get his own career off the ground.

MelonCollie on February 26, 2013 at 5:47 PM

Senate action on two of President Barack Obama’s top priorities this year — gun violence and immigration — will likely be delayed until April

I seriously doubt that. Seein’s believin’.

petefrt on February 26, 2013 at 5:47 PM

Are people all concerned about Obama ‘s sky is falling hysterics or any sign they are getting sick or immune to it? In a rational world you’d think people would be tired of it. It is one thing to be unqualified for your job, but quite another to guy crying around blaming everyone else for your inability to do anything every 6 weeks or so.

earlgrey133 on February 26, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Rand voted for. Disappointing.

nobar on February 26, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Why exactly is Hagel important?

ninjapirate on February 26, 2013 at 5:52 PM

Rand voted for. Disappointing.
nobar on February 26, 2013 at 5:41 PM
I thought he explicitly voted against, or was that with someone else?
Gotta wonder if he’s trying not to get ostracized by the GOP before he can even get his own career off the ground.
MelonCollie on February 26, 2013 at 5:47 PM

He voted no for cloture.

nobar on February 26, 2013 at 5:54 PM

The punks O’media will take up the slack and keep the gun
gun control issue front and center. Ever look at the yahoo main page. It’s all things obama.

Texyank on February 26, 2013 at 5:56 PM

I can only guess how many Republicans will buckle on the budget, gun control and an amnesty with no enforcement. Do names like McCain, Graham, Rubio, Collins, Cochran, Alexander, Ryan, Boehner and Cantor sound familiar.

bw222 on February 26, 2013 at 5:57 PM

Mean while the idiot Senate President in Colorado is going to introduce legislation that will open up trial lawyers to sue gun manufacturers if a crime or harm is committed with their guns while knowing it violates federal law. He hopes it will prompt repeal of the federal law protecting gun manufacturers from such asinine lawsuits. What a crock. I called his office, his phone man denies this violated federal law even though his boss is on record awknowledging it does and not caring. Pathetic Colorado Springs. Absolutely pathetic.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22526922/dems-hope-gun-liability-bill-prompts-repeal-federal

jawkneemusic on February 26, 2013 at 5:57 PM

Here’s the vote on Hagel. WTF is wrong with Rand Paul? Every time I start thinking he Presidential material ….

Grouped By Vote Position

YEAs —58

Baldwin (D-WI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Begich (D-AK)
Bennet (D-CO)
Blumenthal (D-CT)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coons (D-DE)
Cowan (D-MA)
Donnelly (D-IN)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Franken (D-MN)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Hagan (D-NC)
Harkin (D-IA)
Heinrich (D-NM)
Heitkamp (D-ND)
Hirono (D-HI)
Johanns (R-NE)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kaine (D-VA)
King (I-ME)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Manchin (D-WV)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Merkley (D-OR)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murphy (D-CT)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Paul (R-KY)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schatz (D-HI)
Schumer (D-NY)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Shelby (R-AL)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Udall (D-CO)
Udall (D-NM)
Warner (D-VA)
Warren (D-MA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)

NAYs —41

Alexander (R-TN)
Ayotte (R-NH)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coats (R-IN)
Coburn (R-OK)
Collins (R-ME)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
Cruz (R-TX)
Enzi (R-WY)
Fischer (R-NE)
Flake (R-AZ)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Heller (R-NV)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johnson (R-WI)
Kirk (R-IL)
Lee (R-UT)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Moran (R-KS)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Portman (R-OH)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rubio (R-FL)
Scott (R-SC)
Sessions (R-AL)
Thune (R-SD)
Toomey (R-PA)
Vitter (R-LA)
Wicker (R-MS)

Not Voting – 1

Lautenberg (D-NJ)

bw222 on February 26, 2013 at 6:06 PM

Budget standoff postpones work on

gun control

, immigration efforts
POSTED AT 5:21 PM ON FEBRUARY 26, 2013 BY ED MORRISSEY

Ed please call it “people Control” not “gun control” I’m passing along an ex-secret service agent’s words, and who is running for the Senate.

Paraphrasing…Why should we co-op the language of the left? It really is about people control.

Conservative4Ever on February 26, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Rand voted for. Disappointing.

nobar on February 26, 2013 at 5:41 PM

nobar:
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XML U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 113th Congress – 1st Session

as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=113&session=1&vote=00024

canopfor on February 26, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Isn’t it interesting that the Senate of the United States can always find time to trample on the Constitutionally secured Rights of Americans, but can never find time to consider their lawful duties, such as writing, debating, and passing a Budget for the Government of the United States.

Another Drew on February 26, 2013 at 6:11 PM

If those 41 Senators truly thought that Hagel was unqualified to be SecDef, they would have availed themselves of Senate Procedure and Precedent, and voted not to impose cloture which would have left Hagel “on the beach” (so to speak) where he deserves to be.
Not using all of the available tools to stop a bad nomination is acquiescence to that nomination, and all the folly that follows from it.
Those among the 41 who voted for cloture may have a lot to answer for in the future.

Another Drew on February 26, 2013 at 6:17 PM

Here’s the vote on Hagel. WTF is wrong with Rand Paul? Every time I start thinking he Presidential material ….

bw222 on February 26, 2013 at 6:06 PM

Despite our desire to play a little politics with this (and realizing what a cretin Hagel is), Paul’s libertarian principles are that the President should be able to get his selection.

Tater Salad on February 26, 2013 at 6:22 PM

Why should we co-op the language of the left? It really is about people control.

Yup. Everything they do is about people control and the perpetual power to keep people under their thumb.

hawkeye54 on February 26, 2013 at 6:23 PM

The only reason they are going to work on the budget is Menendez has hookers to pay and needs his paycheck.

Tater Salad on February 26, 2013 at 6:25 PM

How can the “budget” postpone anything in a Senate which hasn’t passed one in 4 years?

bflat879 on February 26, 2013 at 6:39 PM

Why should we co-op the language of the left? It really is about people control.

Yup. Everything they do is about people control and the perpetual power to keep people under their thumb.

hawkeye54 on February 26, 2013 at 6:23 PM

That it is.

Thing is they’re already admitted that their liberty destroying measures won’t do jack squat to protect anyone, so why don’t they focus on their real jobs anyway and forget trying to deprive the innocent of their basic human rights?

Galt2009 on February 26, 2013 at 6:42 PM

Despite our desire to play a little politics with this (and realizing what a cretin Hagel is), Paul’s libertarian principles are that the President should be able to get his selection.

Tater Salad

Making him as big an idiot at anyone else.

xblade on February 26, 2013 at 6:44 PM

https://www.facebook.com/sarahpalin/posts/10151473843058588

Sarah Palin · 3,509,848 like this
3 hours ago · ..

D.C.: Cut the Drama. Do Your Job.

Americans are sick and tired of yet another ginned-up crisis. D.C. needs to grow up, get to work, and live within its means. The real economic Armageddon looming before us is our runaway debt, not the sequester, which the President advocated for and signed into law and is now running around denouncing because he never had any genuine intention of reining in his reckless spending.

Remember that this sequestration deal came about because of the long debt ceiling standoff in the summer of 2011. It wasn’t the ideal outcome for anyone, but it did at least include real deficit reduction of about $110 billion per year for 10 years, which is still nowhere near enough to close our massive deficit. Keep in mind that since the sequester passed, the President has already hit American families and small business owners with his tax increases, or “more revenue” as he likes to call it. The American public doesn’t want tax increases; we want government to rein in its overspending.

If we can’t stomach modest cuts that would lower federal spending by a mere 0.3% per year out of a current federal budget of $3.6 trillion, then we might as well signal to the whole world that we have no serious intention of dealing with our debt problem.

If we are going to wet our proverbial pants over 0.3% in annual spending cuts when we’re running up trillion dollar annual deficits, then we’re done. Put a fork in us. We’re finished. We’re going to default eventually and that’s why the feds are stockpiling bullets in case of civil unrest.

If we ARE serious about putting our fiscal house in order, then let’s stop the hysterics, tighten our belts, and take our medicine.

- Sarah Palin

ChuckTX on February 26, 2013 at 7:05 PM

…call it “people Control” not “gun control”

Conservative4Ever on February 26, 2013 at 6:08 PM

I agree completely. When we let them define the terms of the debate, or frame the debate, we cede the debate. We see all too much of that in our own media, including Fox News. It’s not gun control. It’s crime control. Or people control.

Do the auto safety campaigns talk about “car control”? Do the anti-smoking campaigns talk about “cigarette control”? Does Mayor Doomberg talk about “soda control”?

Gun control? Pffft.

petefrt on February 26, 2013 at 7:29 PM

Looks like Harry Reid has his work cut out for him. The House isn’t going to do a thing until Reid gets his act together. That could take all summer.

GarandFan on February 26, 2013 at 7:56 PM

It’s not important to pass immigration or gun-control. Those are sore teeth that Democrats can work on any time. Right now, the gang has to go get more cash by holding up the 7-11 we know as “Congress”.

virgo on February 27, 2013 at 11:00 AM