Open thread: The 85th annual Academy Awards

posted at 6:31 pm on February 24, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

My big beef with the Oscars has always been that they are annual. That fact in and of itself seems to assume that Hollywood comes up with sincerely great and timeless motion pictures every single year — which, in what is probably my over-curmudgeonly and certainly non-expert opinion, they don’t.

However, I also think that conservatives as a whole have a tendency to ignore popular culture at their own very great peril, and I’ve heard that there are some genuinely neat flicks up for the big nomination this year.

The Oscars rolled out the red carpet on Sunday for the movie industry’s biggest night, with Iran hostage drama “Argo” and presidential drama “Lincoln” in a tight race for Best Picture.

With several contests too close to call, a slate of big box office hits to celebrate and an unpredictable first-time host in Seth MacFarlane, movie fans could be in for surprises when the curtain rises on the 85th annual Academy Awards.

Before the festivities begin, nominees including Jennifer Lawrence, Hugh Jackman, Sally Field, Jessica Chastain, British singer Adele and “Argo” producer George Clooney, along with performers Barbra Streisand and Jennifer Hudson will parade along the 500-ft long (152 meter) red carpet before dozens of photographers and camera crews.

I haven’t seen either of the two top picks, but I heard “Lincoln” got generally very good reviews and Ed liked “Argo”; here’s the full list of nominees via ABC:

Best Picture:

“Beasts of the Southern Wild”

“Silver Linings Playbook”

“Zero Dark Thirty”

“Lincoln”

“Les Miserables”

“Life of Pi”

“Amour”

“Django Unchained”

“Argo”

I believe the official festivities start at 7 PM on ABC — so if you want to comment on the fashions, discuss the merits of the individual films, or just heckle the heck out of the pomp and pageantry of the entire spectacle, have at it.


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For the first time in my life I am ashamed of my Hot Gas for having so many comments about such a crappy event. Including this one. Dammit.

whatabunchoflosers on February 24, 2013 at 8:36 PM

Yeah, you only have over 40 other topics to comment on…get a life…it’s one thread out of 40+…and you took the time to comment on a thread that you were disgusted about people commenting…

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! You have got to laugh at the irony of your post…c’mon it’s funny!

right2bright on February 25, 2013 at 12:33 AM

BTW, Anne Hathaway looked very elegant in her pink dress. For all of those ignorant of fashion, those are darts in her dress, NOT her nipples.

Common Sense on February 25, 2013 at 12:33 AM

Silicone darts??

right2bright on February 25, 2013 at 12:34 AM

BTW, Anne Hathaway looked very elegant in her pink dress. For all of those ignorant of fashion, those are darts in her dress, NOT her nipples.

Common Sense on February 25, 2013 at 12:33 AM

Maybe lawn darts.

Ronnie on February 25, 2013 at 1:01 AM

I liked that woman who fell on her face the best.

Dollayo on February 25, 2013 at 1:18 AM

BTW, Anne Hathaway looked very elegant in her pink dress. For all of those ignorant of fashion, those are darts in her dress, NOT her nipples.

Common Sense on February 25, 2013 at 12:33 AM

Uh, no: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BD6wp3wCMAEECZ2.jpg

Blake on February 25, 2013 at 1:27 AM

The fact that Argo won Best Picture is a crime, literally. The film was very subtle, but it was a pro-Iranian/Muslim film. Look at the opening “historical context” voice-over (don’t bother thanking me for having transcribed this):

Women’s voice:

“This is the Persian empire, known today as Iran … For 2500 years this land was ruled by a series of kings, known as ‘Shahs.’

“In 1950, the people of Iran elected, Mohammad Mosaddegh, a secular Democrat, as Prime Minister. He nationalized British and US petroleum holdings, returning Iran’s oil to its people. But in 1953, the US and Great Britain engineered a coup d’etat that deposed Mosaddegh and imposed Rezā Pahlavī as Shah. The young Shah was known for opulence and excess. His wife was rumored to bathe in milk, while the Shah had his lunches flown in from Paris.

“The people starved. The Shah kept power through his ruthless internal police, the Savak. An era of fear and torture began. He then began a campaign to Westernize Iran, enraging the mostly traditional Shiite population.

“In 1979, the people of Iran overthrew the Shah. The exiled cleric Ayatollah Khomeini. returned to rule Iran. It descended into score settling, death squads and chaos. Dying of cancer, the Shah was given asylum in the US.

“The Iranian people took to the streets outside the US Embassy demanding that the Shah be returned, tried and hanged.”

Got that narrative fed to you by these Hollywood scumbags?

Let me summarize: The poor poor people of Iran were ruled by tyrants for millennia, until suddenly a wonderful Democracy guy rose above them by the will of the people. Hope was on the way. But the wonderful Democracy guy had the nerve to return “Iran’s oil to its people.” And so the evil, oil-hungry US and Great Britain installed a sadistic, self-interested madman. When the poor poor Iranians managed to force out the sadistic madman installed by the mean mean Americans, it was only natural that there would be some spilled over anger, so they kidnapped everyone in the US embassy and continue to try to annihilate all of us to this day, so it’s all perfectly justified.

Sound familiar? (*cough* Arab Spring *cough*) Feel guilty yet? Are you guys really going to fall for this? Is the transparency of this misleading Hollywood-spun narrative really going to con you? This whole frickin movie was an apologia for Iran disguised as patriotism. That’s why it won an Oscar.

We need to impose more Westernism on these Muzzie scumbags, not less. And this kind of excuse making by them is just a pretense to impose Sharia Law on the entire world.

And as far as “enraging the mostly traditional Shiite population,” these supposedly straight-laced “traditionalists” give a crap about one thing and one thing only: imposing Shiite Islam on you, subjugating you, and possibly killing you and raping your daughters.

This was hands-down the most egregious Lefto-scum Academy Awards of all time. Affleck and everyone else involved in that atrocity belongs in Iran, getting the true Iranian treatment, if you know what I mean. I’d throw a party.

WhatSlushfund on February 25, 2013 at 1:28 AM

Does anyone think Afflack actually directed that movie?

I imagine he had an experienced “ghost director” holding his hand and walking him through the production. I’ve always seriously doubted that he or Matt Damon had anything to do with the writing of Good Will Hunting.

It’s fitting that Me’chelle “O” announced the winner, as we know her husband, Lady JarJar, doesn’t write his own speeches.

sartana on February 25, 2013 at 1:29 AM

WhatSlushfund on February 25, 2013 at 1:28 AM

Excellent comment. No, some of us aren’t falling for it. Since I first began hearing of this film, I’ve thought it was another production by the people who pull the strings on this White House. Afflack is a dummy- real dumb. He doesn’t write movies or direct films. As a relatively young, high-profile Hollywood Leftist, he’s just the lipstick on a pig” front-man for this slick propaganda piece.

The timing of the release, along with all of the attention it got always seemed suspect. Now with Me’chelle handing out the award, along with John Kerry’s reference to film a couple days ago, I think it’s pretty clear what we have here.

sartana on February 25, 2013 at 1:42 AM

I was very impressed with the results this year! A diverse group of winners, no one film took away too many awards. Silver Lingings, Les Mes, Lincoln, Django, and Argo all took home major awards!

I was absolutely delighted that Jennifer Lawrence won for Best Actress, a complete surprise to be sure (Jessica Chastain was the clear front runner) and from what I saw Seth McFarlane accepted the dignity of the evening and kept things very classy as Oscar host.

A very good Oscars! I hope Hollywood can continue this.

joshleguern on February 25, 2013 at 2:11 AM

I was very impressed with the results this year! A diverse group of winners, no one film took away too many awards. Silver Lingings, Les Mes, Lincoln, Django, and Argo all took home major awards!

I was absolutely delighted that Jennifer Lawrence won for Best Actress, a complete surprise to be sure (Jessica Chastain was the clear front runner) and from what I saw Seth McFarlane accepted the dignity of the evening and kept things very classy as Oscar host.

A very good Oscars! I hope Hollywood can continue this.

joshleguern on February 25, 2013 at 2:11 AM

Seriously? Classy?

He sang a song with a gay choir about seeing many of the actresses boobs in movies – pointing out actresses by name and movie. He made a joke about John Wilkes Booth being the actor who had gotten into the head of President Lincoln most effectively. He made a joke about pedophilia and he talked about “the after party sex orgy at Jack Nicholson’s house”.

Classy? If I had an underage kid, I would not have wanted her to see any of that.

Theophile on February 25, 2013 at 2:41 AM

About the only thing worse than Hollywood’s lack of original or interesting ideas would be having to sit through the annual academy awards.

jaime on February 25, 2013 at 2:48 AM

Thought the Oscars were good tonight until I saw two big mistakes. Having the traitor Jane Fonda presenting and the twit Michelle Obama announcing the best picture. Big Mistake Academy.

KCinLV on February 25, 2013 at 3:51 AM

I haven’t watched the Academy Awards in 20 years. What have missed? Meh.

dddave on February 25, 2013 at 5:37 AM

Having the traitor Jane Fonda presenting and the twit Michelle Obama announcing the best picture. Big Mistake Academy.

KCinLV on February 25, 2013 at 3:51 AM

just heard about that…not classy at all…but par for the hollywood lib elites

cmsinaz on February 25, 2013 at 5:40 AM

Did anyone actually believe that lefty-wood would give best picture or best director for a movie that put republicans in a good light?

What was missing was that nobody thanked one of the worst president in ever (Carter) for being such a bad president so that films like Argo and Zero Dark 30 would be possible today.
I wonder what screen plays the worst president ever will inspire 30 years from now?

kregg on February 25, 2013 at 5:41 AM

I don’t find the Oscars show interesting anymore. :-(

The whole thing is so overdone. Don’t feel like sitting through a stretched out show full of “star gazing.” Why should I care so much about someone who happened to act in a movie? I’m not even given a vote to help decide the winners.

bluegill on February 25, 2013 at 5:42 AM

Did anyone actually believe that lefty-wood would give best picture or best director for a movie that put republicans in a good light?

kregg on February 25, 2013 at 5:41 AM

good poing kregg

cmsinaz on February 25, 2013 at 5:44 AM

this means the lsm will be praising michelle obama the entire day…blech

cmsinaz on February 25, 2013 at 5:46 AM

If you’re a guy, and you actually care who/what wins at the Oscars, your Man Card is in danger of being revoked.

DRayRaven on February 25, 2013 at 6:31 AM

And if you care about the Tonys, it’s definitely gone.

DRayRaven on February 25, 2013 at 6:32 AM

Interesting Drudge story on Michelle/Harvey Weinstein/the Oscar producers.
I think the audience gasped because it was so out of place to introduce politicians as part of the Oscar process.
And Michelle’s “Oh! We love the movies!” when you could imagine any other First Lady making a polite decline.
There will be a backlash. Against Weinstein you can guarantee. No? Look at Speilberg who didn’t move from his seat last night and people said it was because he got Bubba Clinton at the Golden Globes and it was an intrusion of politics where it didn’t belong.

Marcus on February 25, 2013 at 6:40 AM

WhatSlushfund on February 25, 2013 at 1:28 AM

Excellent

RADIOONE on February 25, 2013 at 6:52 AM

I just logged on to find that MICHELLE OBAMA introduced the best picture?

Back to not watching the Oscars for me. THEY must be worshiped and idolized at every event in America.

THEY are AMERICAS’ IDOLS.

We fall on our faces and worship the great Lords of America. All Hail. Can we just go ahead and declare them gods and name every building in America after them? Could we change every street sign? Come on you libs get after it. You’re missing a great opportunity to perpetuate their greatness in our culture.

PappyD61 on February 25, 2013 at 7:32 AM

I am glad I wouldn’t be caught dead spending 5 seconds watching crap like this. Of course, Low Information LooterNation does. As for Mooch showing up, you aren’t going to have anything this “big” without the Obamas imposing themselves on you.

Did they give her a special oscar for biggest arse of the year?

wildcat72 on February 25, 2013 at 7:49 AM

The First Walrus introducing best picture? One more reason not to watch that crap.

petefrt on February 25, 2013 at 8:02 AM

The more I think about it the more I keep coming back to… WTH? What was Bangs Obama doing announcing the best pic?

Fallon on February 25, 2013 at 8:09 AM

Oops. I was referring to her ‘do.

Fallon on February 25, 2013 at 8:09 AM

Interesting Drudge story on Michelle/Harvey Weinstein/the Oscar producers.
I think the audience gasped because it was so out of place to introduce politicians as part of the Oscar process.
And Michelle’s “Oh! We love the movies!” when you could imagine any other First Lady making a polite decline.
There will be a backlash. Against Weinstein you can guarantee. No? Look at Speilberg who didn’t move from his seat last night and people said it was because he got Bubba Clinton at the Golden Globes and it was an intrusion of politics where it didn’t belong.

Marcus on February 25, 2013 at 6:40 AM

I watched this on my big screen hi-def tv and it looked like Mrs. O had a 5 o’clock shadow. Just awful. There’s a beard joke in there, but I’m too tired to make it. Seriously, Weinstein overstepped and her makeup artist (that we are paying for) should be fired.

monalisa on February 25, 2013 at 8:26 AM

The timing of the release, along with all of the attention it got always seemed suspect. Now with Me’chelle handing out the award, along with John Kerry’s reference to film a couple days ago, I think it’s pretty clear what we have here.

sartana on February 25, 2013 at 1:42 AM

Huma Abedin thanked in the credits. ‘Nuff said.

monalisa on February 25, 2013 at 8:29 AM

Why ?
Why do we care what liberal Hollywood says or does?

Stop Feeding the Beast.

Hollywood is dead to me.
(Red Box at an absolute minimum)

FlaMurph on February 25, 2013 at 8:30 AM

Nikki Finke, live-blogging the Oscars:

As if Hanoi Jane wasn’t fuel enough. Oh My God – the Academy actually fans the fire by drafting First Lady Michelle Obama to help present Best Picture from presumably the White House? So unnecessary and inappropriate to inject so much politics into the Oscars yet again. Hollywood will get pilloried by conservative pundits for arranging this payoff for all the campaign donations it gave the President’s reelection campaign. I don’t understand this very obvious attempt to infuriate right-leaning audiences. Clearly the studios only want to sell their movies to only half of America

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Well, there’ll be no pillorying (sp?) from the MSM. I’m sure they thought Bangs was delightful and what a surprise!

Fallon on February 25, 2013 at 8:44 AM

Yes, the Obamas owe Tinsel Town plenty for all their support – financial and promotional – during the 2012 election. But there’s simply no reason for Michelle Obama to be given the biggest assignment on Oscar night.

Wait. Did’t you just gave the reason…?

Fallon on February 25, 2013 at 8:46 AM

Did anyone actually believe that lefty-wood would give best picture or best director for a movie that put republicans in a good light?

kregg on February 25, 2013 at 5:41 AM

It was more that the Academy hates Steven Spielberg. It’s fine, dude has plenty of lifetime recognition already and is likely to get more before he kicks off.

alwaysfiredup on February 25, 2013 at 9:40 AM

Does anyone think Afflack actually directed that movie?

sartana on February 25, 2013 at 1:29 AM

Orson Welles once said that any idiot could direct a decent picture in Hollywood, as long as they were propped up by the right technicians and actors.

Afflack previously directed two competent but unexceptional movies. Nothing that shows any unusual talent or perspective.

Tellingly, he was denied a nomination for Best Director.

I haven’t seen Argo, because the highlight reel, otherwise known as the trailer, looked bad.

The consensus is that Argo won best picture because it shows Hollywood people in a heroic light. In other words, it made the impossible look real.

The Oscars are ridiculous. Both Phillip Seymour Hoffman and Joaquin Phoenix gave genuinely stunning performances in The Master, but were denied awards because the Academy was afraid of offending Hollywood’s Scientologist mafia. Instead the nobody German guy won again for a Quentin Tarantino talk fest, and Daniel Day Lewis won for successfully impersonating a Disney animatronic robot.

Seth McFarland stunk. You know something is wrong at the Oscars when FLOTUS is one of the more elegant and poised presenters.

Only worth sitting through to see Shirley Bassey sing Goldfinger, and Adele sing Skyfall. That’s it.

Mr. Arkadin on February 25, 2013 at 9:43 AM

BTW, Afflack gave one of the most ungracious acceptance speeches I have ever heard.

“You can’t hold grudges.”

Really, Ben?

Grudges against whom?

Yes, it was nice to see that a guy, who just a few years ago was a gossip rag punch line, has regained his self respect and the respect of his peers. But saying “you can’t hold grudges” implies that there are people to hold grudges against. Which implies that others were at fault for what happened to you.

I don’t think so.

Ben, who forced you to do not one but two Michael Bay movies for huge, multi million dollar paychecks?

Who forced you date Jennifer Lopez?

Who forced you to take roles in Gigli and Jersey Girl?

Who forced you to have a pathetic gambling addiction?

Who forced you to become a drunk?

Who forced you to pontificate publicly about current events, when you have nothing particularly insightful to say?

Daredevil, Ben?

Gone, Baby, Gone and The Town should have come right after Good Will Hunting, not ten years later. If they had, you might even be a decent director by now.

I would rather have seen you give a speech about how a decade of poor choices can be redeemed by acceptance of responsibility, a good marriage, the support of one’s friends, and a little luck.

But then this is Hollywood.

Mr. Arkadin on February 25, 2013 at 9:56 AM

Harvey Weinstein Arranged Michelle Obama’s Best Picture Oscars Surprise

According to Academy president Hawk Koch*, the plan came from Weinstein and his daughter, Lily. Koch and Oscar show producers Craig Zadan and Neil Meron loved the idea. And when it was pitched to the first lady, Zadan told The Hollywood Reporter that her response was, “Yes, I think it’s a great idea. We watch movies all the time at the White House. Let’s do it…”

Just like an Andy Hardy…

*Not one of the Koch brothers…? /

Fallon on February 25, 2013 at 10:06 AM

If anyone had any lingering doubts about Chris Christie and his connection to obama…here he is last night at the White House, just before Michelle did her Oscar presentation…

https://twitter.com/Dudette9t9/status/305847708927815680/photo/1

Pork-Chop on February 25, 2013 at 10:20 AM

The fact that Argo won Best Picture is a crime, literally. The film was very subtle, but it was a pro-Iranian/Muslim film. Look at the opening “historical context” voice-over (don’t bother thanking me for having transcribed this): …

WhatSlushfund on February 25, 2013 at 1:28 AM

Yes, the “historical context” voiceover is there at the start of the film. But that narration explains why the Iranian people were angry at the U.S. — it doesn’t justify what they did. Soon after the voiceover, you see the scenes of the scary-looking Iranian mob attacking the U.S. embassy. They aren’t made to look like reasonable people. Other than the maid at the Canadian embassy who refuses to reveal the hostages’ identity (and then takes asylum in another country), are there any Iranian “good guys” in the entire movie?

J.S.K. on February 25, 2013 at 11:36 AM

Makes perfect sense that Michelle is part of the Oscars.

She and Obama have been “acting” as President and First Lady.
May their 2nd term be quick.

SmallGovtGuy on February 25, 2013 at 12:27 AM

Not only that, but her long running role as Barry’s beard wife may even be, if only for longevity, her best performance. The only question is whether she should get “Best Actress”, or “Best Actress in a Supporting Role”.

Kenz on February 25, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Yes, the “historical context” voiceover is there at the start of the film. But that narration explains why the Iranian people were angry at the U.S. — it doesn’t justify what they did. Soon after the voiceover, you see the scenes of the scary-looking Iranian mob attacking the U.S. embassy. They aren’t made to look like reasonable people. Other than the maid at the Canadian embassy who refuses to reveal the hostages’ identity (and then takes asylum in another country), are there any Iranian “good guys” in the entire movie?

J.S.K. on February 25, 2013 at 11:36 AM

I hadn’t planned on checking back in with this thread which I’m sure no one is reading anymore since it’s so downpage now, but I’m extremely bored, so I did.

So since I did, for the record: No, you’re completely missing the point.

The “historical context” voiceover at the start of the film does not explain “why the Iranian people were angry at the U.S.” That’s my whole point. It’s a lie. It had nothing to do with “anger” (at least not in a Western sense). It had to do with Islam, and Islam only. It was a calculated, coordinated effort, just like in Benghazi. You seriously don’t see the pattern here? The “anger” was a pretense as part of a jihadi take-over of Iran. That’s all it was: a Sharia takeover of Iran (it should be highlighted, which was carried out in accord with Islam’s commands that Islamic law be the law of the land on the entire Earth). It wouldn’t matter what the US might or might have done, the Muzzies just would have made up some other excuse.

That was my whole point. We see this over and over and over again, no matter what the West does. They attack us, we ask, ‘why did you attack us?’, they say, ‘because you did A, B, and C.’ We feebly respond, ‘ok, then we won’t do A, B, and C.’ And then what happens? They attack us again. Rinse and repeat. And we’re such idiots that we keep falling for this, and continue to lose ground. It has nothing to do with the film making them, or not making them, “look like reasonable people.” My criticism was that the film advanced the Muslims’ false pretenses (that they’ve used over and over again since) thereby advancing the Muslims’ expansionist agenda. And you apparently fell for it.

Now, why would the film do that? Because Leftists theorize that they can team temporarily with the Muzzies for the purpose of destroying the US. Both Leftists and Muzzies have that goal in common. They both hate the US. Then, the Leftists imagine that once they succeed in overthrowing the US, they can ditch the Muzzies, and have their Commie utopia all to themselves. This is far from the first time this has been tried. In fact, it happened during the very Iranian revolution depicted in the film. There were actually Leftist, secular Iranians at the time, and they foolishly joined forces with the jihadis based on exactly that strategy. And what happened after the regime was overthrown? The Muzzies dumped the Leftists, and now the place is a Sharia hell hole. This is what always happens. Leftists (like that moron Affleck) never learn. The same thing happened in Egypt. Remember all that Lefty press about how one of the ‘Arab Spring’s’ main leaders was that Westernized secular techie kid who represented Google there? Where’s he now? That’s right, under the boot of the Muslim Brotherhood. Again and again and again and again…

It has nothing whatsoever to do with whether the film depicted any individual Iranian “good guys.” Try to think on a broader level here. I said in my post that the film was subtle about this (somewhat – I thought it was pretty apparent). The point is that the film was trying to advance Islam’s overall agenda by advancing the Islamic narrative. See? Please don’t help the Left by falling for it.

WhatSlushfund on February 25, 2013 at 7:16 PM

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